The Millwall Leviathan: The Great Eastern

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  • @THEScottCampbell
    @THEScottCampbell 4 ปีที่แล้ว +255

    The ship survived over 30 years and laid the first Atlantic cable. How many other ships from it's time are remembered? Of hose that are, how long did they last? The Great Eastern was a monumental engineering achievement. I'm sure much was learned from its construction and applied to ships built from that point on.

    • @bgd73
      @bgd73 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I have found 1920s designs, by then marvelling at 300 rpm diesels.. still running today on original steel and engines. some went ww2, after getting commandeered. some were running cable before the war.. i found one that did cable, a war..stayed owned by gov't illegally and let go of 50 years of active service, back into a yacht, though panama canal and now in service over in washington state, complete make over. that one is approaching 90 years.. I think its called "arcadia". that is just one of several.

  • @nicholaskelly6375
    @nicholaskelly6375 4 ปีที่แล้ว +149

    Without her the trans oceanic telegraph cables could never have been laid so easily. The thing about the Great Eastern was not only her size. As due to the fact that she was the only ship built with independently driven paddles and a screw (one other ship that the can think of which had both paddles and a screw was the 'Bee' however she had a single engine which drove both forms of propulsion via shafting, gearing and clutches).
    This allowed her to hold a position at sea. It was this feature as much as her size that made her an ideal cable layer. It is often forgotten now that these submarine telegraph cables revolutionised communication and effectively along with the railway to create the modern world.

  • @3dPrint_and_chill
    @3dPrint_and_chill 4 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    For anyone interested the SS Great Britain is mostly restored and can be visited in Brunel's home town of Bristol.

    • @emjackson2289
      @emjackson2289 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well worth a visit I must say & it looks fantastic from Hotwells

  • @gramilwolf3448
    @gramilwolf3448 4 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    When they launched the ship 'side - on' it caused a swell which overwhelmed the far bank where members of the public were watching. Quite a few died in the maelstrom. A sad start.

    • @kjj26k
      @kjj26k 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What a way to go, violently taken by the (especially then) filthy Thames...

    • @MrDaiseymay
      @MrDaiseymay 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've never heard that before, Must rank as the worst attempt at a launch in history

  • @martentrudeau6948
    @martentrudeau6948 4 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    Brunel's Great Eastern was an incredible the accomplishment back in the horse and buggy days, a colossus years ahead of it's time, and a revolutionary propeller too (pun intended thank you). He was significant for many other projects too, beautiful bridges, train stations, tunnels, and etc, etc, etc. It boggles my mind to think what he would have done if he had lived another 30 years, his mind had no limits.

    • @CountScarlioni
      @CountScarlioni 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's interesting to consider what he might have turned his talents to next. Whatever it was though, it would have more than likely been a scheme to bankrupt many more investors!

    • @richwest9104
      @richwest9104 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I seem to remember reading somewhere that the propeller on the SS Great Britain is only 10% less efficient than the most modern commercial shipping props. Quite remarkable. An indication of Brunel's engineering brilliance.

    • @deeznoots6241
      @deeznoots6241 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He also overshadows his father Marc Brunel quite a lot despite his fathers many engineering achievements, for example there are tunnels started under Marc Brunel using his brand new tunnel boring machine that were completed by Isembard

    • @BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne
      @BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The greatest ever Brit in my opinion.

  • @jonny7dreamin
    @jonny7dreamin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    I believe that some of her hull plates are still embedded in the mud where she was broken up...The breakers decided that they were not worth salvaging??

    • @RipOffProductionsLLC
      @RipOffProductionsLLC 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It took 2 years to brake up the ship, by that time many of the lower components had just sunk to deep into the mud to be worth the effort to dig back up.

  • @tomkent4656
    @tomkent4656 4 ปีที่แล้ว +320

    Thanks for a music-free documentary!

    • @2Worlds_and_InBetween
      @2Worlds_and_InBetween 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yes

    • @fntime
      @fntime 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Why don't you like music?

    • @tomkent4656
      @tomkent4656 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@fntime The majority of TH-cam documentary producers don't know how to use music properly in their productions. Their music tracks are often incompatible, and invariably detract from the images and voice-over. I'd rather listen to a videodoc without music than suffer music that sucks!

    • @2Worlds_and_InBetween
      @2Worlds_and_InBetween 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      music is quite possibly one of my greatest loves, (can you guess what another one is from my playlists.?)
      but
      more so with much longer stuff,
      I speed it up over time as you get used to it,
      the music can make this difficult/annoying.

    • @robertely686
      @robertely686 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      No music and no photogenic narrator popping up every ten seconds 👍

  • @asciisynth
    @asciisynth 4 ปีที่แล้ว +268

    Brunel, how will you power your new ship? Brunel: Yes.

    • @asciisynth
      @asciisynth 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      PS great video, and Victorian technology never ceases to amaze me.

    • @andrewfield5656
      @andrewfield5656 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      It could be done but not easy.
      Brunel: “hold my ale”

    • @otterylexa4499
      @otterylexa4499 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He'd probably have slapped on some azipods if he'd thought of them.

    • @kiwitrainguy
      @kiwitrainguy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mr. Brunel, how will you power your new ship?
      Brunel: With coal, and lots of it.

  • @derekcoe9633
    @derekcoe9633 4 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Was broken up on the shore at Rock Ferry, just a mile or two from my home.. there are still metal shards to be found in the spot where she was dismantled

    • @1949rangerrick
      @1949rangerrick 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      There are collectors out there that would pay for small bits of the ships hull
      Cut them up, authentic the pieces, sell them. I’d bite.

    • @663rainmaker
      @663rainmaker 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Richard Hansen EVRAZ Group of Russia 🇷🇺 in USA 🇺🇸 and UK 🇬🇧 chains ⛓ linked to Canada 🇨🇦 Australia 🇦🇺 too Leviathan stuck with buckets of Rusty deaLs ! ReCycled steeLs

    • @gillesbueno1153
      @gillesbueno1153 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You should return and pick what can be left with pictures and video to prove where the remains have been picked up and sale them bit by bit to collectors. Gilles, from France.

    • @MrDaiseymay
      @MrDaiseymay 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@1949rangerrick ME TOO. I'd rather have a good size piece, than Jimmy Hendrix's Guitar.

    • @Colt45hatchback
      @Colt45hatchback 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would be most interested in someone doing a metallurgical analysis of the steel/iron and compare its properties with modern metals

  • @Larry
    @Larry 4 ปีที่แล้ว +139

    Wasn't there a story that they were in such a rush to rivet the hulls together, that when they scrapped the ship, they found several skeletons of workmen who had been sealed inside by mistake?

    • @JagoHazzard
      @JagoHazzard  4 ปีที่แล้ว +104

      I’ve heard the story, but not come across any solid evidence. I’m actually planning a follow up video on the subject.

    • @aleronhawk
      @aleronhawk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      isn't (almost) every old ship has that kind of story? i had this discussion with my teacher and similar story occured from time to time. titanc also has this kind of story. there was a rumor that some workmen missing and they could've been sealed inside by mistake.

    • @kais.8689
      @kais.8689 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      This story repeats on nearly every mega-project, from the great wall(s) of China, to the Hoover dam and even pilings for big bridges like the Golden Gate. It's generally very untrue, particularly for bodies in concrete (since they would weaken the structure substantially), but sealing people into a ship there would be a lot of noise, and even if they ignored or missed that, a lot of absolutely horrid smell. There is every reason to remove dead workers from such structures, and none to leave them. It's not like they would get into much trouble in the days before organized health and safety, so why even hide the body?

    • @aleronhawk
      @aleronhawk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I'm not sure about concrete buildings, but in the case of double hull ship, it was apparently possible for a worker to accidentally sealed inside between the hulls and nobody notice, just because of how loud the metal banging when they rivet the parts together. Technology and health and safety has moved on since, so we don't have those kind of things anymore. Still, It was possible, but doesn't mean it was true.

    • @mattislindehag3065
      @mattislindehag3065 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@JagoHazzard The stories that people were sealed inside the hull started very early, when two workers went missing during the construction and never turned up again. This rumour was circulated throughout her entire service life. When she was scrapped people were eager to find out if the skeletons of the two men were inside the hull and they were not.

  • @carlosiiideespana3712
    @carlosiiideespana3712 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Very interesting and informative video! There were two small inaccuracies: 2:53 That is the drawing room of the 1888 ocean liner City of New York. 9:36 She was surpassed in size in 1901 by the liner Celtic.

    • @Astronist
      @Astronist 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yes, she was first surpassed in length by the Oceanic of 1899 (704 ft to the Great Eastern's 692 ft), and in gross tonnage by the Celtic of 1901 (20,904 grt to the Great Eastern's 18,915 grt) - both White Star ships.

    • @carlosiiideespana3712
      @carlosiiideespana3712 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      In shipping, length is length and is not in the realm of size. Ships r measured in gross register tonnage in terms of size

    • @MrDaiseymay
      @MrDaiseymay 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Astronist Trust them, but then, they also hold the record for the biggest deception too.

  • @timholt3010
    @timholt3010 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    The chain isn’t an anchor chain, it’s a checking chain used to brake the ship during launching

    • @mozdickson
      @mozdickson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Sounds much more plausible. A ship like that is not designed to be anchored, but moored at a dock. Anchoring would be temporary until pilot boats arrive, thus not needing such stupendous chains.

    • @sddsddean
      @sddsddean 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Glad someone else pointed that out...a common mistake made by many 'commentators'. Also, I believe there is an inscription on the back of the original photo, written by IKB, along the lines of "I asked Mr Russell to stand with me, but he would not, so I alone am hung in chains!". Don't know if thats true or apocryphal.

    • @JonathanWJ
      @JonathanWJ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Disco Sucks probably a lot more than that

  • @SiVlog1989
    @SiVlog1989 4 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    At the site of the breakers yard where Great Eastern was scrapped, if you know where to look, you can see parts of the ship that survive, within the dirt of the river Mersey. Far from making money, the breakers made a huge loss as they needed all the strength they had in order to break it up

    • @bfmcarparts
      @bfmcarparts 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I heard about the pieces of the Great Eastern can still be found on the shores of the Mersey. Some guy named Tony talked about it on his show called 'Toime Team'. Be warned they all talk funny too.

    • @johnwynne2179
      @johnwynne2179 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And where she ran aground on the Wirral side of the Mersey, they built a pub, and called it The Great Eastern, the pub was demolished a few years ago, the road into the estate has been called Clipper View

    • @Thecoincollector.
      @Thecoincollector. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@bfmcarparts A lot of the bits ended up in the pub named the great eastern till one of the landlords sold it all then floged the land for flats

    • @johnwynne2179
      @johnwynne2179 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Thecoincollector. yep, in a CAMRA article, the lounge was described as a museum to the Great Eastern ship, but 10 years later, English Heritage said it wasn't enough to save it from being demolished. All the salvage was sold by the demolition company. All the locals can think is it was not in a posh enough area

    • @growlers90
      @growlers90 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      My Brother in-law and Sister used to be the barstaff there back in the 60`s and say most of the pubs doors bar tops tables etc all came from the ship. Apparently including two beautiful doors from the captains rooms with the most intricate engraved and coloured glass panes, they both lamented the pubs closure and subsequent demolition....I have been told off for making them sound older than they are !!! My sister and her husband worked there in the 70`s HAHAHA.

  • @tw25rw
    @tw25rw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The flagpole at Anfield was purchased by the ground's tenants, Everton FC.

  • @MrGreatplum
    @MrGreatplum 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Brunel was a genius wasn’t he? I am glad the Great Eastern got a worthwhile career in the end!

  • @Bobrogers99
    @Bobrogers99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I know there were complications in laying the transAtlantic telegraph cable, but the project would doubtless have been delayed further without a ship the size of the Great Eastern. This was its one moment in the sun.

    • @MrDaiseymay
      @MrDaiseymay 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes ,I've got an original Book about it, first issue from 1952, sponsored by the company who paid for the cable, 'Canadian Wire'.

  • @davidcotton8378
    @davidcotton8378 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    John Scott Russell was so much more than the Great Eastern. For one thing, he noticed (i.e. discovered) and reproduced in a lab the soliton wave, which is at the core of fibre optic physics (which, coincidentally, was the distant relative of the technology that was the Great Eastern's only success). He was also a great force in the modernisation of ship design.
    It sometimes feels like Scott Russell suffers from his association with Brunel: he was the bad guy in the hero's story. If so, that is a shame: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Scott_Russell

    • @JagoHazzard
      @JagoHazzard  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s interesting. I’ll have to look into the guy in more detail.

    • @MrDaiseymay
      @MrDaiseymay 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Great Eastern was not quite the white elephant as some say. She Took thousands of emigrants to Australia, many for the Gold Rush there Gold Rush there.

  • @greebo7857
    @greebo7857 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Your channel appeared in my recommendations two days ago. I must have watched 20 or so since. Fascinating, well filmed and narrated. And I've never been to London. Subbed.

  • @scratchdog2216
    @scratchdog2216 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Only knew her as a cable-laying ship. Thanx for the whole story. Nice post.

  • @mjrussell414
    @mjrussell414 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I knew the ship’s name sounded familiar for some reason - the cable laying. I remember years ago, working at a YMCA, while processing a woman’s application for an assisted membership, she called one of her several kids - “Leviathan! Come here Leviathan!” Not sure if she realized she had named her child an ancient sea monster...

  • @henrikcarlsen1881
    @henrikcarlsen1881 4 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    He forgot to mention the story of the remains of the riveter and his bash-boy found inside the double-hull when it was broken up.

    • @stohelpsupport7615
      @stohelpsupport7615 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Any more details on that? Many thanks.

    • @oddsandwindsocks5905
      @oddsandwindsocks5905 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I read stories about this also.

    • @oddsandwindsocks5905
      @oddsandwindsocks5905 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@stohelpsupport7615 watch 7 wonders of the industrial world, episode called the great ship. Very informative story and film about this massive ship

    • @wes326
      @wes326 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Great story. Thanks for posting.

    • @88seanster
      @88seanster 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was going to mention this as well. Beat me to it,good on you.

  • @dannymurphy1779
    @dannymurphy1779 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    'We're the best thing in London, the best thing of all, everybody knows us, we're called MILLWALL!'

    • @terrydavis6132
      @terrydavis6132 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Danny Murphy , I go way back further than that , direct descendent capt. John Davis.

    • @lawrencelewis8105
      @lawrencelewis8105 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      recall that guy during the terror attack at Boro Market? "This is for Allah!" the guy yelled, 'This one's for Millwall!"

    • @dannywestwood4113
      @dannywestwood4113 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Let them come.

  • @muir8009
    @muir8009 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    your channel is just brilliant. I've spent the last few days bingeing on your videos and they're all fascinating, really well filmed and narrated. even the ones I've had no interest in are interesting. don't stop and don't change your narration style. new series about the pioneering lines is brilliant. any chance that in the future you might possibly look at London stations' mpd's? or maybe the London goods depots? What I'm thinking of course is London-based railway transport tends to be very focused on commuter traffic and electric stock or at best metro steam stock. I know in some older videos from the sixties in the background of whatever express at some central station there's a glimpse of an EE type 1 trundling past with about 6 wagons on a cross London goods run. where's it going? where's it from? what can we see today? brilliant channel, been over 20 years since I was in London (kiwi living in Aussie) and you're making it like living history or something like that.

    • @JagoHazzard
      @JagoHazzard  4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thanks! Goods depots and sheds are a definite possibility - a couple of people have asked for Camden, for instance. I do find those aspects of railways very interesting, so it’s certainly something I’d like to look into.

  • @Tuberuser187
    @Tuberuser187 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Kind of another topic but, if anyone reading lives in or visiting the UK and Bristol isn't too far you should really go and take a look at the SS Great Britain for a nice morning or afternoon out. She is all restored and in a dry dock (which has like a shallow, glass bottom pool around the ship at its natural water line so it looks like its floating) and you can tour her and walk around the dry dock. She is amazing, still a pretty big ship even by todays standards.
    Edit, The whole of Brunels life was "Hold my beer" when everyone thought something was the biggest or best.

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I went as a kid, loved seeing all the store rooms and such that they had recreated with furnishings etc.

  • @g.stephens263
    @g.stephens263 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Well done. I remember reading about Brunel in High School back in the 50's. The yard where we kept our sailboat during the winter, used those type of timbers to store the boat, and placed "butter boards" that slid on grease to slide the boats to the launch rail car.

  • @FreedomLovingLoyalistOfficial
    @FreedomLovingLoyalistOfficial 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    One of Brunel's last photos was taken on the Great Eastern. Moments later he would collapse from the Stroke.

  • @henryatkinson1479
    @henryatkinson1479 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fun fact that I don't believe was mentioned: Some hull plates can still be found where she was broken up, if I'm remembering right they can only be seen when the tide goes out.

  • @ChakatSandwalker
    @ChakatSandwalker 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    This ship is one of the most fascinating to have ever been launched. Your dry humour and voice are a delight, and I think I will spend quite a bit of time going through your previous videos.
    The TH-cam algorithm once again brings someone interesting to my attention. Cheers from (possibly) the furthest remnant of the British Empire, New Zealand.

  • @kaykiekid
    @kaykiekid 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ah man, wished could've been saved and put back to its original design for a museum tour today. I could imagine walking around those decks in amazement. 😊👍❤

  • @mrceee2000
    @mrceee2000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    What about the three people accidentally sealed up in her hull when being constructed?

    • @2Worlds_and_InBetween
      @2Worlds_and_InBetween 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      was it 3.?
      i had heard of 2

    • @theatomicclap5328
      @theatomicclap5328 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      All their problems are solved rip dead guys😳

    • @CountScarlioni
      @CountScarlioni 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This legend has been much misreported over the years. The original rumour was that a single body was found, then on subsequent retelling it was inflated to two or three individuals. In some versions it was reported that some were children, and is inconsistent on whether the bodies were together or not. Regardless, as far as I'm aware there's no known police record on the finding and no coroners report. Due to the lack of evidence it's quite possible the entire tale is the invention of the often fanciful and macabre Victorian press.
      If the body was found it was most likely a single person. It's not impossible an individual may have been slipped and fell whilst working on the hull as workplace deaths were almost an accepted occupational hazard of the time. However the idea that person wouldn't be missed or the body not noticed by work crews is harder to believe. A worrying possibility is that it was the victim of a workplace murder, and the body deliberately concealed by the killer(s) in that section of hull. A toxic combination of copious gin, easy women, gambling, blood sports and crime rings meant that shipbuilders could be a hardcore breed.

    • @mentalrectangle
      @mentalrectangle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It was an urban myth. It is really interesting though, and deserved a mention.

    • @lawrencelewis8105
      @lawrencelewis8105 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've heard about that years ago. A riveter and his helper, I recall but yeah, it's probably an urban legend.

  • @steves5172
    @steves5172 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hi, I can add to your ending that some of the Great Eastern keel plates still exist in the mud of the Mersey near the shore around New Ferry. I certainly didn’t know about that flagpole!
    Another great video, thanks!

  • @slapington8721
    @slapington8721 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Engineer:how will you power it ?
    Brunel:yes

  • @bobrussell3602
    @bobrussell3602 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Brilliant ! Not too long. No distracting music. I'm subscribing.

  • @PeterWTaylor
    @PeterWTaylor 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If you look over the river wall at low tide you can still see the timbers of the launching ramp in the river bed. There is a superb model of the ship in the nearby Docklands museum and the Brunel museum near Rotherhithe train station is also worth a look.

  • @snusemcgoose1001
    @snusemcgoose1001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    7:51 holy shit if I was on that ship and lived because of his design I would’ve hugged the guy

  • @chrisedwards4917
    @chrisedwards4917 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you're lucky you can still find pieces of steel plate from the hull on the foreshore of the Mersey on the Wirral side.

  • @zachrich7359
    @zachrich7359 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    She was bigger than some of the battleships that fought at the Battle of Jutland in World War 1, which is just insane to me.

  • @Quebecoisegal
    @Quebecoisegal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of the worlds worst jobs: a stoker on a steam ship.

  • @leeteichmann7315
    @leeteichmann7315 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The book "the great iron ship" by James Dugan/ Harper & Brothers New York, 1953 tells a very large, strange, funny facts of this leviathan. A few said facts was that a young boy & a man where found in different sections of the double hull while the ship was in the wrecking yard & the wrecking ball was invented for this monster. She definitely was a very unlucky ship!

    • @40intrepid
      @40intrepid 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Dave Roche Were they identified?, where were they buried?

    • @chrisnorman9980
      @chrisnorman9980 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This tale was told in an old Ripley’s Believe It or Not comic book, I had when you was a kid.
      The story was titled “The Lost Riveter and His Mate.
      Ripley’s claimed that the two men’s death was responsible for the Great Eastern’s bad luck.
      In fact, it said that the sounds of their hammers tapping preceded accidents.
      The story concluded with their two skeletons being found when the ship was scrapped - and they were still holding their hammers.
      I didn’t know whether to “believe it or not” - but it gave me the creeps as a kid.

    • @TheAmazingAdventuresOfMiles
      @TheAmazingAdventuresOfMiles 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I would be absolutely amazed if that story is even remotely true. They just weren't that stupid.

    • @djangorheinhardt
      @djangorheinhardt 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I read a few years ago that it was a woman and a child who's skeletons were found.A documentary on TV ( where else !) said it was another symptom of the unfortunate and hapless career of this ship, the dream of a far sighted ,visionary man .

  • @DIY-valvular
    @DIY-valvular 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This was a very interesting and concise lecture indeed.
    I took a quick look to your recently created channel and I see that you have a lot of interesting material.
    Thank you from Argentina, Jago.

  • @memonk11
    @memonk11 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very informative and well done. Thank you for posting it!

  • @ronaldtreitner1460
    @ronaldtreitner1460 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    sounds like piss poor management doomed what could have been a great ship in her day, much like all the corners they cut on the titanic sacrificing safety, etc.

  • @alanr2609
    @alanr2609 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A tragedy. No-one knew what to do with this incredible ship.

  • @thomaswebb7828
    @thomaswebb7828 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    An 80ft gash...that's not what you wanna see

    • @gdfggggg
      @gdfggggg 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lol

  • @lunes-1
    @lunes-1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love stories about old vintage ⛵ships,
    🇬🇧British were great building them,besides the curse&bad luck👍👏
    Just suscribed

  • @ian_b
    @ian_b 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    "Revolutionary"? Isn't that circular reasoning?

    • @JagoHazzard
      @JagoHazzard  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      BOOM
      BOOM

    • @2H80vids
      @2H80vids 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      How it turns out depends on whether you put spin on it. Otherwise, you're shafted.

  • @WasatchGarandMan
    @WasatchGarandMan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fantastic video, I've always seen Leviathan being called enormous and larger then life in comparison to ships of it's era, but I've never seen it's size compared to ships of the 20th century, wonder how big she was compared to Titanic or maybe the USS Texas

  • @dodgydruid
    @dodgydruid 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One of my oldest's friends uncle's owned the North Star pub not so far from there, met some ancient and original Millwall supporters in there whose fathers used to go watch Millwall play when it was still over by the docks.
    One of my other mates worked on the Canary tower and had to be rescued when he was by a rogue wind blown off his girder that he was welding and he was dangling by his safety line and he was brutally honest when he admitted widdling himself and after that couldn't go up higher than a house storey lol The whole empire, London docks etc ppl can come up with flowery words and dark explanations but it was all down to middle and upper class demand for tea, British merchants objected at paying increased prices for tea so they went and had a word with the crown who set up expeditionary private armed forces and off they went to Ceylon, Siam, India etc.
    In those times water purification came down to two things, boiling it which tasted horrible or turning it into alcohol which is what the peasants had and so tea became the unlikely driver of empire and nicking all the lands, jewels, gold etc was the "bonus" for the East India Company and it was all sent to London and Britain controlled the world tea trade which is why America seized on coffee in rebellion to having to pay tariffs on British tea.
    For the poor people, London also controlled the gin and rum markets, rum was issued to soldiers and sailors and the secret to Britan's imperial success was its forces being absolutely tanked on 60% dark syrupy rum, for the poor Londoners and in other cities it was a bottle of mother's ruin gin as it was known, a bottle of costing less than a penny and pretty nasty stuff whereas tea cost many times that hence why the affluent drank it, the poor likely never tasted it.

    • @bobsapsford7526
      @bobsapsford7526 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The ships that came back to the docks from Spain that didn't have enough cargo to stabilise the ship took on oranges and then they built a marmalade jam factory in Millwall and Glaswegian jam factory workers came to work there. They where Rangers supporters and played football in the blue strip of Rangers in a field behind Mortons jam factory. They became Millwall football club who still play in blue.

    • @gazzaldn5749
      @gazzaldn5749 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bobsapsford7526 The founders were more diverse and more East Coast Scots than from Glasgow.

    • @kenmillwall1885
      @kenmillwall1885 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The colours of Millwall fc are from Dundee fc in Scotland where many of the workers come from with the symbol of the Lion Rampant.
      Blue and White

    • @2H80vids
      @2H80vids 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rubbish. There are a few tiny grains of possible truth in there but no more than that. Glasgow isn't involved. Rangers certainly aren't involved. Jam factories weren't a "thing" - fruit is seasonal.
      Have a look at borussiabeefburg.wordpress.com/2013/03/18/millwalls-scottish-myth/
      It doesn't provide too many answers but it busts some of the myths.😁

  • @TermiteUSA
    @TermiteUSA 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice one at the end with the rain on the old timbers. Has anyone ever tested the steel or compared it's composition to Titanic or other samples?

    • @JagoHazzard
      @JagoHazzard  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don’t think they have.

  • @alisonlee3314
    @alisonlee3314 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That would have been an amazing ship to see

  • @oxxnarrdflame8865
    @oxxnarrdflame8865 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Interesting, good job.
    Some of this I knew, I built a model of the ship when I was in high school back in 67. I really liked it.

    • @ssbn6175
      @ssbn6175 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oxnarr, I did as well, probably about the same timeframe. Was fascinated by her size and technology, this when my normal model-building interest centered around large combatants from the Pacific. We were exposed to real history back then.

    • @oxxnarrdflame8865
      @oxxnarrdflame8865 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      SSBN 617 yeah, fun times, a large variety of modeling subjects to choose from. At the time my brother was working on the Flying Cloud and my buddy the Royal Sovereign

  • @grantpetersen1049
    @grantpetersen1049 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting loved it London by birth millwall the grace of God 😎

  • @VgnRaj
    @VgnRaj 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Revolutionary". Good joke.

  • @niceguy391987
    @niceguy391987 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The A380 of ships, if you like.

  • @essexdreamer5365
    @essexdreamer5365 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    great job on this video :)

  • @lauranceemory4448
    @lauranceemory4448 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I was big fan of Brunel as a kid.... read some fat history book on him. Around 1962 Revell even had a model kit of the Great Eastern I put together 1/388th scale.

  • @highpath4776
    @highpath4776 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i am confused on london geography. Mill Wall was on the West of The Isle Of Dogs, there was a football club there, it then moved South of the River, taking its name so Millwall FC is in South London. Meanwhile, in Woolwich, near the Royal Arsenal, there was a football club, named, oddly, Arsenal being made up of persons working at that place. That club moved north of the river, to near Gillespie Road, taking its name with it , and so Arsenal ended in North London. The Thames Ironworks nearby on the west side of Bow Creek had a football club, with a pair of Hammers indicating the work of hammering iron and steel to make things, like ships and boats, etc. That club moved east, to Upton Park, the old home of Anne Bolyen , in the borough of West Ham, but not near West Ham railway station !, that club changed its name to West Ham, but retained the nick name of The Hammers, which does not mean West Ham and East Ham - which together in 1965 made New Ham, or Newham. The club moved a little north, still in Newham, close to the border with Waltham Forest and near to the ground of the east london football club, Leyton Orient, not to be confused with the Club Clapton Orient (although Leyton Orient had changed their name to Clapton Orient to change it back in 1946) , now Clapton Community Football Club, which has its ground in Upton Lane in Forest Gate (which was in West Ham).

  • @alamos8
    @alamos8 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not surpassed in size until 1913? Wrong. RMS Titanic was way bigger and sunk in 1912. In reality, it was slightly surpassed by RMS Celtic in 1901, 3 m longer and slightly heavier

  • @PTCello
    @PTCello 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You left out the story of the storm, so intense it ripped off one of the paddle wheels.

  • @lnchgj
    @lnchgj 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    That was very nicely done, very professional.

  • @stephenpegum9776
    @stephenpegum9776 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another great video Jago - cheers ! I first read about Brunel's work on the railways (especially the GWR) and only learnt of his other ventures such as shipbuilding later on. I was also born in Bristol, now of course home to the SS Great Britain & the Clifton suspension bridge.
    Despite the problems with this particular vessel, in my opinion Brunel is still Britain's greatest-ever enigineer.

  • @NUSORCA
    @NUSORCA 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    5:41 this is picture that introduced me to the Great Eastern. It is so modern looking and the bow is so evocative of early 20th century ocean liners that I couldn’t possibly imagine she’s built in the 1850s

  • @alexhayden2303
    @alexhayden2303 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Incomprehensibly, a valve had been fitted to the pipe which was intended to vent steam from the boiler's safety valve.
    Somehow, the valve had become closed!

  • @johnjephcote7636
    @johnjephcote7636 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm pleased you mentioned Tangye. (I remember a blue and white enamel advert for their pumps as one's train left the old Euston Station.)

    • @MrDaiseymay
      @MrDaiseymay 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I always thought it was pronounced as TANG E, not TAN GEE ?

    • @colinhiggs3038
      @colinhiggs3038 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrDaiseymay Philip, you are correct, it is pronounced "Tang E." Richard Tangye was borne in Illogan (about a mile and a half away from where I live,) near Redruth. There are still many Tangyes living in the area. It is a good old Cornish name, just like Jago.

  • @castletown999
    @castletown999 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fascinating. A sort of A380 of its day.

  • @lucianene7741
    @lucianene7741 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When engineering beats economics. If you can it doesn't mean that you should.

  • @shadowjack8
    @shadowjack8 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for this glimpse into our past.

  • @VDPEFi
    @VDPEFi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've watched alot of stuff about this ship, but the details you add, where the remnants and bits and pieces are, the information about the damage sustained etc really does lift this video above. Fantastic

  • @RichardEvans-sl7yu
    @RichardEvans-sl7yu ปีที่แล้ว

    All Brunel's ships were ahead of their time. The Great Britain survives as a tribute to his skill. His death hastened by the strain of constructing the Great Eastern, fighting the devious company directors & John Scott Russell, see LTC Rolt's biography of Brunel.

  • @jimadamson8563
    @jimadamson8563 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If, Jurassic-Park-style, we could regenerate IKB - I would send him straight to Boca Chica so he could motivate that lazy, unimagintive bugger, Elon Musk!

  • @johnathanjohnjohnston4667
    @johnathanjohnjohnston4667 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    One issue. I'm certain that the oceanic was larger than the great eastern which was way before 1913. Even the titanic and Olympic were launched prior to 1913 and both were longer and weighed over 10000 tons more even when empty. I may have misheard you, but if you did say 1913 then I'm afraid that's an error. Otherwise I must applaud you. You did some serious research and it shows.

  • @darlatc1169
    @darlatc1169 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My 2nd Great Grand Uncle, Captain Clooney was employed on the SS Great Eastern as a young man. He later had his own (Successful Ship building Company) in which he built Ships to serve the Gulf & Atlantic Ocean and was highly praised for his workmanship. Many years later he was presented with a piece of the Cable as a Souvenir which he Cherished the rest of his Life. He has an Island & a Street named in his Honor in Cajun Country. I talked to a relative that inherited it and he said he might donate it to the museum in Lake Charles, Louisiana.

  • @pvuccino
    @pvuccino ปีที่แล้ว

    Well, I don't know about earlier ships comparisons with the Great Eastern, but I know the Olympic surpassed her in size in 1911, not 1913.

  • @alanclarke3228
    @alanclarke3228 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good and informative video! It appears that the Great Eastern may have been built
    better than a lot of "newer" ships of that time period

  • @roycelane8318
    @roycelane8318 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very educational..thank you this was a fine documentary!

  • @Matt_from_Florida
    @Matt_from_Florida 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You made a video about it, so it can be said it fared better than most.
    _"The life of mortals is like grass, they flourish like the flowers of the field; the wind blows over them and they are gone, and their place remembers them no more."_ --Psalm 103:15-16

  • @oddsandwindsocks5905
    @oddsandwindsocks5905 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wasn't there bodies of young boys found in the hull when they started cutting it up for salvage.

  • @andrewscuoler287
    @andrewscuoler287 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Having lived next to the site where this was built I always wondered why they called the nearby DLR station Island Gardens instead of Millwall? Even the people there don’t seem to be aware they live in Millwall. Of course Millwall FC relocating didn’t help.

  • @scopex2749
    @scopex2749 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a sad ending for another British masterpiece. She should have been preserved as Great Britain is. 😢 excellent video.

    • @johnwynne2179
      @johnwynne2179 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      She was broken up on the shores of the Kersey, just down from the Cammel Laird shipyard, she had run aground and could not be moved, she was sold for scrap, and as you say, a great shame. She was broken up at New Ferry, on the Wirral side of the Kersey, a pub was built, apparently using some of the timbers from the ship, the pub closed, and caught fire, which seem's all to common around here, there is a small housing estate there now, Clipper View is the link road. Whilst she was being broken up, apparently, 2 bodies where found inside the hull, no more information has been found, so may well be a rumour

    • @BantuEducation
      @BantuEducation 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      SS Great Britain only survived because it was abandoned in the Falklands for about 80 years before a wealthy benefactor paid a lot of money to have it brought back home in 1970.

    • @ridingtothegrave
      @ridingtothegrave 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My grandad brought the Great Britain under the Clifton suspension bridge

    • @wanderer651952
      @wanderer651952 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BantuEducation A similar story to the iron 3-masted barque 'James Craig', now in Sydney, Australia.
      See:
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Craig_(barque)

  • @BuggleskellyStation
    @BuggleskellyStation 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting documentary thanks. I don't know if this is true but I've heard that when they broke the ship up, in the space between the hulls they found skeltons of a man and boy, presumably workers building the ship who got trapped inside. Legend has it that they 'cursed' the ship.

    • @JagoHazzard
      @JagoHazzard  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’ve heard the story, but none of the sources I’ve read are willing to outright confirm it. Might be a good subject for a future video...

    • @veronikajung9447
      @veronikajung9447 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I read a same story. It was in the book about mystery of seas and oceans.

  • @simongleaden2864
    @simongleaden2864 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So, whereas SS Great Western was connected with the Great Western Railway Co., the SS Great Eastern had no connection with the Great Eastern Railway Co.?

  • @millennialchicken
    @millennialchicken 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You know there is another remaining section of the hip left in the world? But you need to go and find it by hand, because it keeps getting hidden, the keel remains in the bank on the Mersey where she was scrapped, but because it took so long to scrap her and the issues with breaking her up, the keel was left remaining in the bank and left out to the elements. The UK network Channel 4 program Time Team even did a search for her and indeed found some remains in the Mersey bank.

  • @Calvbread
    @Calvbread 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing documentary 👏

  • @Jorn41
    @Jorn41 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I once read that when scrapping the ships, the skeletons of 3 fitters were discovered.

  • @ZL54JK8
    @ZL54JK8 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What an interesting video. I've read about the Great Eastern, but this presentation is a thousand times better!
    Brunel was a great engineer indeed. His contemporary, George Parker Bidder, another leading engineer who was a friend of Brunel's, and whom Brunel considered his equal, is surprisingly unknown now. As well as building the enormous (for its day) Victoria Dock in 1855, he also built the London to Blackwall Railway in 1843, whose viaduct was still serviceable enough to assist in the building of the Dockland Light Railway. I wonder if it would be possible for Jago to do something on that? (Incidentally, I might recommend the biography of Bidder written by his great-great grandson, E.E. Clark, who was also an engineer. It gives fascinating insight into the progress of engineering in Victorian times.)

    • @ZL54JK8
      @ZL54JK8 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Since posting my comment earlier, I discovered that Jago already had done a video on the DLR where the above mentioned viaduct does get a mention. Not so its engineer though.

  • @guyincognito4815
    @guyincognito4815 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Weren't there two workers found rivited into the double hull during construction when she was scrapped?

  • @damianmatras8568
    @damianmatras8568 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    They should have gave Isambard more time. They should have believed in The Engineer.

  • @johnmightymole2284
    @johnmightymole2284 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just laying the Atlantic cable means it was a hugely successful, world changing ship.

  • @UncleSheogorath
    @UncleSheogorath 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I suppose we should be grateful that most big companies set unreasonable deadlines to games instead of transports these days.

  • @carltonleboss
    @carltonleboss ปีที่แล้ว

    I guess Duck was right: there's the Great Western way, and there's the wrong way...

  • @stormywindmill
    @stormywindmill 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for that interesting and informative video. I heard a tale that is supposed to have happened during the building of The Great Eastern. A wages clerk with a bag of money disappeared while the ship was under construction, Everyone assumed he had absconded with the wages, When the Great Eastern was being dismantled the skeleton of the clerk and the bag of money were found in a small crevice like compartment where it was thought he had fallen and then been accidentally sealed in it was believed his calls for help (Even if he were able to make them ) were drowned out by the noise of construction. Any Idea if this actually happened?.

    • @johnd8892
      @johnd8892 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      About 55 years ago I heard a variation of this legend from my father in that a riveter and his boy apprentice/helper were entombed inside during the confusion of construction.

    • @JagoHazzard
      @JagoHazzard  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have heard the story of the skeletons, but all the sources I’ve come across that mention it are reluctant to commit to whether it actually happened. I tend to think it’s probably an urban legend.

  • @SMGJohn
    @SMGJohn 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Longer than the Chinese Treasure Ships by almost twice, but only half the width.
    Kind of sad that is all they could do with steel

  • @blondelebanese9922
    @blondelebanese9922 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s much better without music! Thanks.

  • @germainprime4602
    @germainprime4602 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very good and interesting video. Thanks for posting it.

  • @terryansell6641
    @terryansell6641 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting from New Zealand thank you

  • @jagc1969
    @jagc1969 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting video indeed. Thanks for sharing.

  • @Cherb123456
    @Cherb123456 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting video, enjoyed to a great extend, thank you!

  • @maxjasmine
    @maxjasmine 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Educators focus on government and people in them as well as their roles but in reality it was businessman and inventors with huge ideas that propelled us.

  • @neilfoddering921
    @neilfoddering921 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I live about a mile from where funnel number one of the Great Eastern was used as a filter for the water supplying Weymouth and Melcombe Regis. After a boiler explosion blew the funnel off when the ship was off Portland in Dorset during trials in 1859, killing six crew members in the process, the funnel was taken to the waterworks at Suttton Poyntz, drilled with multiple holes, filled with gravel, and used as a water filter. I visited the waterworks some years ago, and saw the rusty remains of the funnel/filter after it had been taken out of use.

  • @someidiot1984
    @someidiot1984 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thoroughly enjoyed that. Thank you.