Then Himalayan is a ground breaking iconic bike and from the start I immediately fell in love with its sheer radical practical " Willys Jeep on two wheels" design and I have always admired its rugged no nonsense looks, but folks, please bear in mind that the Scram is not a posers version of the same fine design either. Checkout the MAD crew from Australia who have made a short TH-cam series about riding the Himalayas on 4 Scrams and found them to be highly effective and to be losing nothing to the Himalayan. Remember folks, the entire reason why Royal Enfield still exists today is because the 1950's Indian Army adopted the 350 Bullet with a 19 inch front wheel as the perfect bike to be patrolling some of the most inhospitable mountain "roads" on Earth. I recall the MAD Ozzie Team hit well over 15000 feet and the little wonders took it all in their stride whilst being 32 pounds lighter than the Himalayan. I personally love them both equally, the Himalayan for its practicality, and the Scram for its gorgeous stripped down back to basics style (dare I say 2023 version of the original Bullet?'), so for different reasons, a bit like children.
I’m own an RE Scram 411 here in Mumbai, India. Most of our roads are pothole ridden and daily commute is sort of like an everyday off-road journey for us. This bike takes every bump like a charm. Rode about 3000kms so far on the odometer. What a machine! 😊 I opted for the Graphite Yellow color variant 😊
"I like bikes! " So true. I'll keep my Himalayan but if I didn't want to go into the dirt as much or camp off of it, this scram would be a great choice.
It's really funny to know that in the west this bike is considered as beginner's bike but here in india it's kind of a luxury bike. Most of the Indian's can't afford an Enfield because it's 3 times the cost of an affordable bike here in India. But ppl in west consider this bike as a learner's bike which is cheapest bike available for them. 😂 In india we use bike for daily commute and we usually ride bikes which are like starts from 80cc to 125cc engine's and have maximum price under 1500$. For us, Enfields are like the bike we could not afford that easily and maintaining such luxury is very costly. 411cc bike is like very powerful bike for us and whoever have Enfields in their garage is considered a rich person. And they are designed mainly for Indian market and Indian's usually don't travel on highways with their bikes that often. Even if we do, our highway speed limit for bike is maximum 60-70kmph(45mph) which is like half compare to the US regular driving speeds on highways. So maybe that's why enfields are made under powered because Indians don't need that much power or maybe due to government regulations I can't say for sure. But the reputation Enfield has in the west is really funny to me 😂 because for us Enfields are like a bmw or Ferrari (or atleast for me).
Thanks for mentioning the speed limits in India. It makes a huge difference on whether or not a motorcycle is considered a good choice for all-around transportation versus a back road toy. I started riding in the 1970's when the US speed limit was 55mph (89 kmph). Back then, some 125's could keep us with most traffic and a 250 was fine for normal highway use. I never imagined needing anything larger than a 650 for touring.
I ended up with a silver and yellow colored scram 411, kinda wished I had grabbed the red and white one in the end. But either way it's a great machine. It's my second bike (first was a tw200) and I absolutely love it. People do talk alot of trash on it though, but that's ok. I love my tractor 😅
I fell in love with the looks of the Scram 411 in Skyline Blue, went to see it in person, loved it even more. Then I threw a leg over it, and I am just a bit too short to be comfortable on it. I am 5'3" and 28" inseam and I was barely able to tippy toe it. I was still even with that blinded by how much I loved how it looked, so I sat with the salesperson, and then I got a nice ice cold shower when he wrote up the quote.. it went from $5100 to just about $7000 after they were done with tax (6%), tags ($230), freight ($500), and a mountain of dealership fees. That was the cash price. Want to finance, they wanted nearly $150/month for 60 months (they did not run my credit), but that is nearly $9000 over 5 years. No thanks. Probably was for the best, because that bike was a bit too tall for me to comfortable keep my feet down on. I am itching like heck to get another bike to replace the one I totaled in April when I hit a deer, but after 4 months of healing up and wanting to ride again, I don't want to be raked through the coals by a dealership for the opportunity to ride again.
Great video, I’ve had my 22 Himalayan about 3 weeks. It’s a fun bike, but can’t wait to get it on some of forest roads and do some moto-camping and put it through its paces.
Most scramblers are basic road bikes modded with chunky tires and suspension. RE took an ADV bike and scrambled it. Think I'll get one of these soon. Pretty sure the Himi centerstand fits. Ebay has lots. Or maybe get a paddock stand.
I traded my Bonneville SE with 17” wheels for a Triumph Scrambler with 19” front. The Scrambler was easier to wheelie but the sweet cornering of the SE was gone. Not bad but still not the same even though the engine and frame were the same. Wheel size makes a lot of difference!
I’ve not ridden a Scram yet; but I defo will sometime in the near future. So, going off of your comments Jeff and what I’ve seen of the bikes in the flesh as it were, I don’t think it can replace my Himmy. This is because I ride my Himmy a lot off road; it’s bash plate has got several scrapes, buckle’s and dents in it. Going on what I’ve heard I don’t believe the Scram was intended for that kind of use; so no criticism of the Scram intended at all. Loved the video Jeff. A very fair and honest appraisal of what is I’m sure a damn good motorcycle, good work man. Ride safe Neil
My scram is often sideways as I ride in the Sierras near by. I love it for what it is Not, one of the Harley’s It’s just fun to ride in the city and sideways down a fire road But It is no rocket sled. It is slow and the 5 speed transmission is geared differently than I thought it would. For how inexpensive it is and having other bikes this is just a blast
"Why am I not rich" I've been asking myself that for a while now! If I get a bike for gravel roads and trail ridding I'm thinking the Scram might be the one, at least at this time
Wondering if you had plans on doing a valve check/adjustment video for the Himalayan? I have the Scram but its the same engine so would be useful for Scram owners as well. I have hit my 300 mile breakin service period and have to do it because my local dealer wants $800 for the service and thats almost a third of the cost of the bike!
Comment from New Zealand. Where I live, we’re surrounded by gravel roads similar to the ones you were navigating. We also have 22 kms of seal to our closest town. I reckon the Scram would be the perfect machine for navigating such a mix which is also characterised by twisties galore. One issue I’ve noticed on the Scram is trying to get my foot under the gear lever. Don’t know why this is? One other reviewer has mentioned it too. Given our terrain I’d be changing gear a lot so I’d like to get this issue sorted before buying one………which I plan to do this year. I need to check out adjustments etc, but in the meantime has anyone else noticed this????
BTW Great Video! I’ll say it one more time my wife and I love the Scram 411 My wife rides a Harley XG 750 (India) X-Bike and I have a couple of Harleys WideGlide ect but also a Honda XL350R
... and then when you have snow and ice all over Ohio and I'm sittin' down here in N'Awlins with 50° weather ... don't you wish you were me? ;) Neat vid, S
@@OlManRonin Ice! I said ice ... lotttttttts of ice everywhere. Whoops! There goes Ro down the driveway, across the road, up the berm, through the bushes, down the ridge, over the crag and landing smack in the middle of Mr. McGregor's cabbage patch ... again. S
I found that on every one of my Enfields the rear shocks are a weak point, especially on my Interceptor where I replaced the stock shock with YSS and the rest with Hagan from Hitchcocks.
If you find it too stiff it's because they were designed for Indian conditions. People here also prefer stiffer shocks as it allows you to feel the changes in surface conditions giving you better controls and handling.
@@bulthaosen1169 Actually they are not too stiff they are too soft for my riding style plus each one of my Enfields I can feel it as I take corners hence the change to stiffer set-ups.
@@bulthaosen1169 Possibly but I would not trade any of them... with that said I generally will do something with either the front or rear suspension... many times it has to do with the compression and rebound of the bike.
looking to get my first bike and torn between the scarm and the himi, mostly because i have no idea how much "off road" i would be riding, i do live on a dirt road but thats only ~ 1/2 mile long
I am still undecided. I really like the colorway and full utilitarianism of the Himalayan. If the Scram 411 were lightweight, black and came with at least a center stand and windshield, it would be a much easier call for me. I suppose both will ride fine year round in the northeast?
G'day Ronin from Australia, always enjoy your upbeat delivery of the pro's when reviewing any bike your riding, l aways have a smile on my dial when ridding, some news for myself, l have been nominated as our areas Motorcycle riders Federation Representative a positive l hope to serve all rider's well, when are you going to bring out the 500cc Single, l can't wait, cheers mate, Neil 🤠.
Great video. The Scram does look fun. Just wonder what the himmy and Scram are like when they upgrade the engine. I think to a 450, just wish the old idea of a twin 750 was going ahead.
The non switchable ABS put me off getting one. I like my big 21" front tyre in the shingle too. Having riddenboth, ill stick to my himmi.. Nice as a commuter bike tho, just not suitablefor where I ride. The 19" front will certainly make it handle better on the paved roads.
Wondering about your thoughts on this as a possible adventure bike with a few mods? The bike would be used most of the time as a local commuter as well as some day and overnight adventure touring on and off road.
in all honesty, If the Scram trips your trigger, but you want ADV the Himalayan is already there. I enjoy riding both, but my heart belongs to the Himalayan. It's backroad savy and eagerness to tackle NO ROADS is simply amazing,
I have test driven both recently. I have a 2018 KLX 250 that I love, it just isn’t as comfortable on the street. I’d have to put about $1500 - $1700 more to trade for the Himalayan. I have also thought about putting that money into some power and comfort upgrades (myself) into the KLX because it is so light and nimble. I’m just not sure which direction to go. Any advice is certainly welcome.
@@chrishutchinson8757 test ride, always check your finances, resale values, etc and make a well informed decision. Sometimes its best to wait til the best deal comes by. Never let emotions dictate purchases
I am curious about how your knees handle the pegs position. You and I are both 6'2" and about the same age. I love the Scram but I don't think Uncle Arthur J. Itis would let me.
Unfair question since my knees are shot lol nothing feels good after a few hours tbh. HOWEVER, its not as questionable as other bikes Ive been on. So its moot to me if you get what I mean.
Love the looks of the Scram, but the price point is too close to the Himalayan. For $200, I'll take the windshield, center stand, tachometer, switchable ABS and ground clearance.
In the US I think it's a dilemma here in the UK it's a road bike and if you're doing any distances you're going to fit a center stand before you even take delivery.
@@julianrose810 the himi has more ground clearance even with the center stand. But not too much. Check the specs. I think they're targeting a whole different demographic
Just depends on the roads you are going to ride, our roads are in bad conditions and we have very few gravel roads, so to me the scram would be a good choice, but why did they scrap the center stand ? is it available as an option ?
@@OlManRonin On the commercial pictures of the web site you can see that some have a center stand, and on youtube I saw a guy from India having one fixed, he said that it is same as Himalayan.
In your previous video you said the Scram seat isn’t interchangeable to the Himalayan without modification. What would be required? I’m 6’4 and would like to have a one piece seat that could be modified to be level front to back.
the keyed attachment point is in the rear of the frame on the Scram. the Himalayans rear seat keyed attachment point is mid way . it would need cut and rewelded or a bracket fabricated
@@OlManRonin Actually, I can’t remember where I saw it. But it looked like the original mounting point for the keyed latch was there as well. Maybe you could check?
@@OlManRonin Understood. I don’t think I’m explaining myself well. In one video I saw with the Scram’s seat off, it looked like the old forward mounting location for the mechanism was still there, so you could maybe put a Himalayan seat on a Scram, but not the other way around.
With a 3.9 gallon tank any idea how far it will go before needing to refuel? And what's your thoughts on the leaked photos of the 450cc Himalayan, is a 450cc motor going to make a big difference?
Then Himalayan is a ground breaking iconic bike and from the start I immediately fell in love with its sheer radical practical " Willys Jeep on two wheels" design and I have always admired its rugged no nonsense looks, but folks, please bear in mind that the Scram is not a posers version of the same fine design either. Checkout the MAD crew from Australia who have made a short TH-cam series about riding the Himalayas on 4 Scrams and found them to be highly effective and to be losing nothing to the Himalayan. Remember folks, the entire reason why Royal Enfield still exists today is because the 1950's Indian Army adopted the 350 Bullet with a 19 inch front wheel as the perfect bike to be patrolling some of the most inhospitable mountain "roads" on Earth. I recall the MAD Ozzie Team hit well over 15000 feet and the little wonders took it all in their stride whilst being 32 pounds lighter than the Himalayan. I personally love them both equally, the Himalayan for its practicality, and the Scram for its gorgeous stripped down back to basics style (dare I say 2023 version of the original Bullet?'), so for different reasons, a bit like children.
I’m own an RE Scram 411 here in Mumbai, India.
Most of our roads are pothole ridden and daily commute is sort of like an everyday off-road journey for us. This bike takes every bump like a charm. Rode about 3000kms so far on the odometer. What a machine! 😊
I opted for the Graphite Yellow color variant 😊
"I like bikes! "
So true. I'll keep my Himalayan but if I didn't want to go into the dirt as much or camp off of it, this scram would be a great choice.
agreed and only unhappy people dis something they dont know anything about ;) Cheers Kitty
It's really funny to know that in the west this bike is considered as beginner's bike but here in india it's kind of a luxury bike. Most of the Indian's can't afford an Enfield because it's 3 times the cost of an affordable bike here in India. But ppl in west consider this bike as a learner's bike which is cheapest bike available for them. 😂
In india we use bike for daily commute and we usually ride bikes which are like starts from 80cc to 125cc engine's and have maximum price under 1500$. For us, Enfields are like the bike we could not afford that easily and maintaining such luxury is very costly. 411cc bike is like very powerful bike for us and whoever have Enfields in their garage is considered a rich person.
And they are designed mainly for Indian market and Indian's usually don't travel on highways with their bikes that often. Even if we do, our highway speed limit for bike is maximum 60-70kmph(45mph) which is like half compare to the US regular driving speeds on highways. So maybe that's why enfields are made under powered because Indians don't need that much power or maybe due to government regulations I can't say for sure.
But the reputation Enfield has in the west is really funny to me 😂 because for us Enfields are like a bmw or Ferrari (or atleast for me).
If a bike can ride in India It can ride anywhere.
@@OlManRonin even an honda 110cc bike? 😜
Thanks for mentioning the speed limits in India. It makes a huge difference on whether or not a motorcycle is considered a good choice for all-around transportation versus a back road toy. I started riding in the 1970's when the US speed limit was 55mph (89 kmph). Back then, some 125's could keep us with most traffic and a 250 was fine for normal highway use. I never imagined needing anything larger than a 650 for touring.
Since I do 99% Asphalt, and 6’1, this bike has good ergonomics and a lively chassis. Was very impressed on a test ride.
I ended up with a silver and yellow colored scram 411, kinda wished I had grabbed the red and white one in the end. But either way it's a great machine. It's my second bike (first was a tw200) and I absolutely love it.
People do talk alot of trash on it though, but that's ok. I love my tractor 😅
I fell in love with the looks of the Scram 411 in Skyline Blue, went to see it in person, loved it even more. Then I threw a leg over it, and I am just a bit too short to be comfortable on it. I am 5'3" and 28" inseam and I was barely able to tippy toe it. I was still even with that blinded by how much I loved how it looked, so I sat with the salesperson, and then I got a nice ice cold shower when he wrote up the quote.. it went from $5100 to just about $7000 after they were done with tax (6%), tags ($230), freight ($500), and a mountain of dealership fees. That was the cash price. Want to finance, they wanted nearly $150/month for 60 months (they did not run my credit), but that is nearly $9000 over 5 years. No thanks. Probably was for the best, because that bike was a bit too tall for me to comfortable keep my feet down on. I am itching like heck to get another bike to replace the one I totaled in April when I hit a deer, but after 4 months of healing up and wanting to ride again, I don't want to be raked through the coals by a dealership for the opportunity to ride again.
Try another dealer?
@@OlManRonin agreed, there are other opinions of value on this bike...
Definitely look at other dealers. The Scram is $6,198 out the door at my local dealer.
I got mine a month ago for $3465 then some dealer fees... $1600 worth... (New Orleans)
Lowering kit.
14:16 Himalayan every time👍
I dunno I hate to choose on looks but the Scam is so much nicer on the eyes .
Caught Little Ronin @ 8:45, nice vid!
Great video, I’ve had my 22 Himalayan about 3 weeks. It’s a fun bike, but can’t wait to get it on some of forest roads and do some moto-camping and put it through its paces.
Thanks Tim
@@OlManRonin Tim was never heard from again 😞, some say it was Bigfoot , some say a UFO !
I get homesick every time I watch your vids riding out in the country. Keep it up, lol.
Most scramblers are basic road bikes modded with chunky tires and suspension. RE took an ADV bike and scrambled it. Think I'll get one of these soon. Pretty sure the Himi centerstand fits. Ebay has lots. Or maybe get a paddock stand.
I traded my Bonneville SE with 17” wheels for a Triumph Scrambler with 19” front. The Scrambler was easier to wheelie but the sweet cornering of the SE was gone. Not bad but still not the same even though the engine and frame were the same. Wheel size makes a lot of difference!
Lil' Ronin cruised by at 8:32 into the video. Great video by the way.
Great video... 8:34
I’ve not ridden a Scram yet; but I defo will sometime in the near future.
So, going off of your comments Jeff and what I’ve seen of the bikes in the flesh as it were, I don’t think it can replace my Himmy.
This is because I ride my Himmy a lot off road; it’s bash plate has got several scrapes, buckle’s and dents in it. Going on what I’ve heard I don’t believe the Scram was intended for that kind of use; so no criticism of the Scram intended at all.
Loved the video Jeff. A very fair and honest appraisal of what is I’m sure a damn good motorcycle, good work man.
Ride safe
Neil
My scram is often sideways as I ride in the Sierras near by. I love it for what it is
Not, one of the Harley’s
It’s just fun to ride in the city and sideways down a fire road
But
It is no rocket sled. It is slow and the 5 speed transmission is geared differently than I thought it would. For how inexpensive it is and having other bikes this is just a blast
"Why am I not rich" I've been asking myself that for a while now! If I get a bike for gravel roads and trail ridding I'm thinking the Scram might be the one, at least at this time
You wont be disappointed. I have to say its the first REAL Scrambler Ive been on in years
8:35-36 Lil Ronon went by
Wondering if you had plans on doing a valve check/adjustment video for the Himalayan? I have the Scram but its the same engine so would be useful for Scram owners as well. I have hit my 300 mile breakin service period and have to do it because my local dealer wants $800 for the service and thats almost a third of the cost of the bike!
The #411 for sure
I saw him roll at 8:32.
This bike seems pretty fun over all. As a small bike rider this seems like a good commuter in my book
its a great REAL Scrambler you'll love it
Comment from New Zealand. Where I live, we’re surrounded by gravel roads similar to the ones you were navigating. We also have 22 kms of seal to our closest town. I reckon the Scram would be the perfect machine for navigating such a mix which is also characterised by twisties galore. One issue I’ve noticed on the Scram is trying to get my foot under the gear lever. Don’t know why this is? One other reviewer has mentioned it too. Given our terrain I’d be changing gear a lot so I’d like to get this issue sorted before buying one………which I plan to do this year. I need to check out adjustments etc, but in the meantime has anyone else noticed this????
BTW Great Video! I’ll say it one more time my wife and I love the Scram 411
My wife rides a Harley XG 750 (India) X-Bike and I have a couple of Harleys WideGlide ect but also a Honda XL350R
wonder if the center stand can be added, that is unfortunate. other that that I like the bike.
I like bikes !
... and then when you have snow and ice all over Ohio and I'm sittin' down here in N'Awlins with 50° weather ...
don't you wish you were me?
;)
Neat vid,
S
NOPE lol jk Stuart
@@OlManRonin Ice! I said ice ... lotttttttts of ice everywhere.
Whoops! There goes Ro down the driveway, across the road, up the berm, through the bushes, down the ridge, over the crag and landing smack in the middle of Mr. McGregor's cabbage patch ... again.
S
There is a 450 out there in the mean time, but I would still go for the Scram.
I found that on every one of my Enfields the rear shocks are a weak point, especially on my Interceptor where I replaced the stock shock with YSS and the rest with Hagan from Hitchcocks.
There IS no perfect bike and thats why the aftermarket is chock full of things to make it your own! Cheers
If you find it too stiff it's because they were designed for Indian conditions. People here also prefer stiffer shocks as it allows you to feel the changes in surface conditions giving you better controls and handling.
@@bulthaosen1169 Actually they are not too stiff they are too soft for my riding style plus each one of my Enfields I can feel it as I take corners hence the change to stiffer set-ups.
@@RonConsumer that's strange. Most people find it a bit stiff 😅. Maybe they tune it different for other markets.
@@bulthaosen1169 Possibly but I would not trade any of them... with that said I generally will do something with either the front or rear suspension... many times it has to do with the compression and rebound of the bike.
looking to get my first bike and torn between the scarm and the himi, mostly because i have no idea how much "off road" i would be riding, i do live on a dirt road but thats only ~ 1/2 mile long
I am still undecided. I really like the colorway and full utilitarianism of the Himalayan. If the Scram 411 were lightweight, black and came with at least a center stand and windshield, it would be a much easier call for me. I suppose both will ride fine year round in the northeast?
i love the himi and it is my only year round bike
Looks like a fun bike. Little ronin rolled at 8:32.
It is!
G'day Ronin from Australia, always enjoy your upbeat delivery of the pro's when reviewing any bike your riding, l aways have a smile on my dial when ridding, some news for myself, l have been nominated as our areas Motorcycle riders Federation Representative a positive l hope to serve all rider's well, when are you going to bring out the 500cc Single, l can't wait, cheers mate, Neil 🤠.
Coming soon!
Great video. The Scram does look fun. Just wonder what the himmy and Scram are like when they upgrade the engine. I think to a 450, just wish the old idea of a twin 750 was going ahead.
I saw little ronin at 8:34. The Scram seems like a really good rural runabout.
Truth
Great video as always OMR 😊👍✌️
Thank you Glenn
I have to say I love my Himmy. Not sure the naked-ness of the Scram is good for me in rainy UK.
The non switchable ABS put me off getting one. I like my big 21" front tyre in the shingle too. Having riddenboth, ill stick to my himmi.. Nice as a commuter bike tho, just not suitablefor where I ride. The 19" front will certainly make it handle better on the paved roads.
Cant go wrong with the Himi. I'm never selling mine!
Dylan at The Throttle Company says the new throttle bodies make the engine smoother and peppier. Was this your impression as well?
Yes and Dylan would know!
Wondering about your thoughts on this as a possible adventure bike with a few mods? The bike would be used most of the time as a local commuter as well as some day and overnight adventure touring on and off road.
in all honesty, If the Scram trips your trigger, but you want ADV the Himalayan is already there. I enjoy riding both, but my heart belongs to the Himalayan. It's backroad savy and eagerness to tackle NO ROADS is simply amazing,
I have test driven both recently. I have a 2018 KLX 250 that I love, it just isn’t as comfortable on the street. I’d have to put about $1500 - $1700 more to trade for the Himalayan. I have also thought about putting that money into some power and comfort upgrades (myself) into the KLX because it is so light and nimble. I’m just not sure which direction to go. Any advice is certainly welcome.
@@chrishutchinson8757 test ride, always check your finances, resale values, etc and make a well informed decision. Sometimes its best to wait til the best deal comes by. Never let emotions dictate purchases
Thank you
Cool bike, but definitely the Himalayan still gets my vote. It just does it all, albeit a little slower, but that's ok.
Like I always say, My himi is with me forever, well my forever, lol
I am curious about how your knees handle the pegs position. You and I are both 6'2" and about the same age. I love the Scram but I don't think Uncle Arthur J. Itis would let me.
Unfair question since my knees are shot lol nothing feels good after a few hours tbh. HOWEVER, its not as questionable as other bikes Ive been on. So its moot to me if you get what I mean.
Love the looks of the Scram, but the price point is too close to the Himalayan. For $200, I'll take the windshield, center stand, tachometer, switchable ABS and ground clearance.
This is the point. And if you want scram change tire , remove windshield and you have it almost. 😂
In the US I think it's a dilemma here in the UK it's a road bike and if you're doing any distances you're going to fit a center stand before you even take delivery.
I'm not sure why there isnt one, Center stands do help for sure
@@OlManRonin no center stand more ground clearance perhaps RE are thinking of tougher roads than you or I would tackle.......
@@julianrose810 the himi has more ground clearance even with the center stand. But not too much. Check the specs. I think they're targeting a whole different demographic
What would your thoughts be on two up on this bike be
I would say similar to the Himalayan.
Could a Himalayan center stand be added?
Great question, I will definitely find out
Since this is more of a road bike, what's the rubber on it stock?
its the Ceat Gripper XL same as the Himalayan
9:25 😂😂😂
Just depends on the roads you are going to ride, our roads are in bad conditions and we have very few gravel roads, so to me the scram would be a good choice, but why did they scrap the center stand ? is it available as an option ?
I'll have to check Dona. I'm not sure
@@OlManRonin On the commercial pictures of the web site you can see that some have a center stand, and on youtube I saw a guy from India having one fixed, he said that it is same as Himalayan.
To save money and sell it as an addition
If I had to have one bike I would have the scram 411
Its an awesome bike
In your previous video you said the Scram seat isn’t interchangeable to the Himalayan without modification. What would be required? I’m 6’4 and would like to have a one piece seat that could be modified to be level front to back.
the keyed attachment point is in the rear of the frame on the Scram. the Himalayans rear seat keyed attachment point is mid way . it would need cut and rewelded or a bracket fabricated
@@OlManRonin Actually, I can’t remember where I saw it. But it looked like the original mounting point for the keyed latch was there as well. Maybe you could check?
@@critterIMHO the key is in the same place, but the mechanism to lock and release are 2 different places
@@OlManRonin Understood. I don’t think I’m explaining myself well. In one video I saw with the Scram’s seat off, it looked like the old forward mounting location for the mechanism was still there, so you could maybe put a Himalayan seat on a Scram, but not the other way around.
With a 3.9 gallon tank any idea how far it will go before needing to refuel? And what's your thoughts on the leaked photos of the 450cc Himalayan, is a 450cc motor going to make a big difference?
well I guess only time will tell on the 450?? Fuel economy should be near to exact what I get on the Himi IMHO. I get upwards of 75-80mpg
I'm getting 75 Mpg (UK) which is 90mpg US.
Its a water cooled twin and should be good for 40hp
Sometimes I wish I had beeen born rich instead of just good looking !
God my scram 411 has to arrive faster im itching already,
You won't be disappointed
40 year old yamaha xt,tt 500 superior bike 50 kg lighter more powerful,don't rate re,because of weight,power
its how a bike makes YOU feel is the key.