Hrrm if I was Pickens I would be angry to if I had a bonehead cheerleader for a coach like Tomlin. "The talk" Tomlin had with Pickens was ridiculous. Zero insight or scheme........."turn it up in the second half". That's what you get with Tomlin. Cheerleader HC
Ocho’s saying what Deion said is the reason he would never coach NFL. Deion said NFL players are grown men with ego, making a whole lot of money with no real love for the game and he can’t effectively coach or control that. Shannon knows that.
Ocho is exactly right. He’s not excusing the behavior, he’s giving a reason for it. And Shannon just yelling the whole time about how it should be and ocho is saying what it is
And the reason this is what it is, is because these men want to be stars in this league and they have the ability to do it. Look at what Tyreek and Devante Adams got paid. This is generational wealth. George Pickens has the ability to be that put he’s stuck with Mason Rudolph and Kenny Pickett throwing him the ball. It’s not right. Pickens could be Justin Jefferson level in the right system.
I disagree. What harm is he doing? He is being real. Pickens has a point of view. It may not be the point of view that we want him to have as an NFL receiver, but Ocho is giving us insight as to why the situation is what it is.
@@Michael_PageAnd that's the issue with this new age of thinking. Just because you have a POV doesn't mean it's right and if it's an incorrect POV you need to change it. This idea that we need to see everyone's POV is how wars are started, it's how mediocrity is created accepted and tolerated. His behavior is immature and team dividing at best.
If Chad wants to succeed in podcasting and tv analysis he has to stop catering to players and be honest! He’s too worried about them being mad it him for keeping it real
He feels like you can’t be critical and still be liked and it’s possible to do as long as you’re not levying personal attacks. Chad tells us to ignore our eyes and it’s disingenuous as hell.
He's being himself which ultimately is more important. His perspective provides a balance. I don't think I would like the show as much if they agreed on everything or offered the same insight.
I was just going to say that… Skip always disputed what Shannon said and it always made for great television and I feel like that’s what he’s missing but Ocho doesn’t like to fire back lol
I dont know why people are going off on Ocho. He is trying to pretend he is Pickens or in his head during ge thought process. He started out saying what he did wasn't right
Ocho you have to be honest and hold your friends accountable to, that guy was totally out of line. He gets paid so he should block just as well as he catch passes. If I was the coach, and he did this again he would be benched and traded quick fast and in a hurry.
I see why Unc asks the same questions over and over. He doesn't be listening to Ocho. Ocho tells him the answers to his questions and if he doesn't like his answer he is ready to flip out. Lol. 😂😂😂😂
Ocho just bringing context into why these young men are making these loafing decisions. I like Shannon’s take on how the coach lets them do it. George Pickens was a blocking monster at UGA. He went viral on multiple blocks he made there.
I think it's necessary to hear someone talk from the players perspective such as Ocho. Challenge the thoughts & offer understanding. Because sometimes ppl follow the crowd in bashing a player. It forces the hand of explanation for your criticism. Hey but UNC be on point & explains well. Great show 👏
Love the fact that Shannon keeps it real and doesnt give excuses. Piss poor attitude from Pickens....dude is on the way to becoming another AB. Tomlin gotta go.
Pickens is not even in the same stratosphere as AB, as far as being a player. AB would never pull a move like this, Pickens is the one that needs to go!
Just cause Ocho ain’t animated and yelling doesn’t mean he not holding George Pickens accountable he said multiple times he cant do that and that he doesn’t condone it he just is giving insight from a wide receiver y’all just don’t listen lmao he said it multiple times just in a nice way 😂 he
Shannon, you just earned mad respect from me and the Steeler nation for the way you explained how it is to Ocho. Pittsburgh was built by average men like me who get it out there every day busting their asses off for their family. Mailing it in has never been part of the mind set of this city. That's why people in Pittsburgh are so disgusted by Pickens. We'd rather lose out for this season than condone this guy talent or no talent.
This: Why I always loved my Steelers. They may not have had teams dripping with talent but they fought with all their heart the entire 60 minutes. Some average players would put on that uniform and it meant something to them. I watched an old 70's Steeler game on TH-cam against the Colts I think. John Stahworth ( Not an average player ) delivered a block that took out 2 defenders which sprung Franco for a touchdown and won the game. They won 13-6 I believe. He wasnt worried about his stats that day or possibly getting hurt. Steelers need to find unselfish lunchpail players who will do what needs to be done to win. The winning culture in Pittsburgh is being wrecked by these divas.
Chad is right. Loosing puts everything under the microscope. If they were winning games none of this ever gets mentioned. The QB position is in limbo. Loosing brings out the microscopes. Coach, O line, D line it all rolls down hill. Many receivers don't see the value in anything but the ball coming to them. Guys like George Kittle are always so impressive where you see them running the ball with CMC or Deebo. Kittle is slamming every guy he can get his hands on. What teams that are elite like 49ers. Every player regardless of position is giving everything they have. That is what makes champions. Whoever wins the SB will be the team that every player on the team has that mentality. Always is.
Ocho just gave an explanation for why the player is reacting the way he is. There’s no good reason to not block as a receiver but there’s a reason why the receiver wouldn’t block
@@tyler2009123 a receiver not blocking shouldn’t be tolerated. But a player having an ego and being a diva would trigger a disgruntled player to “act out” and not block on a play
There is blame to be given to the franchise. We’re talking about top receivers who never get the ball .... under a MCanada-led strategy producing the worst offense in the League. There are levels to this. It’s much less black and white for these receivers than “just go do your job.” There’s no job to do if nobody can get them a ball.
bgperfect - Sure did and I heard Shannon say he never asked more from anybody than he was willing to give. If you’re not being used properly, much less, at all in your position, because nobody can get you the ball, and you’re wasting every game of an entire season watching millions in potential future earnings go down the drain because you’re underperforming and not putting up numbers to show your level of talent if only somebody could ......get you ...... the ......... ball..... (knowing you never again will have the speed, agility or maybe even health that you have right now,) do you think you’re as willing to risk it all to take those injury-producing hits to give to an organization that you believe is not giving to you? This is not a justification. It’s just human nature. He’s young. He’s not seasoned. He also needs some time and time to face the harsh disappointment of a tough season where he could have been a huge help and made a big difference..... if only he was used right and somebody ...... could ..... get .... him...... the ball. . That’s the reality.
I heard Jimmy Johnson say at the Pro level, star players should get treated differently than role players. He said stars get fined and role players get cut.
Ocho wants to be everybody’s friend. All this “I love you to death boy” and “I rock with you baby” is cool on here, but it’s not going to fly on national tv. This is probably why Shannon doesn’t want him on First Take😭
Jimmy Johnson also said if an average player falls in the film room he cuts them, if it's Troy Aikman he wakes him up. So I guess if you're good enough you tolerate it.
BLOCKING & PUTTING IN MAXIMUM EFFORT GOES ALL THE WAY BACK TO PEEWEE FOOTBALL!!!! THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THAT!!! GEORGE PICKENS IS GONNA PLAY HIMSELF OUT THE LEAGUE LIKE CHASE CLAYPOOL IS DOING!!!!!
I don't know why Ocho thinks he has to defend every player. Pickens didn't just decide not to block, he gave absolutely no effort. Didn't even get in his way.
I’m a Pittsburgh fan born and raised and the problem is there’s no more pride in the Steeler culture. Tomlin has slowly lost control ever since the AB antics and JuJu dancing on the field. Once juju left you heard nothing else from him and AB ran himself out of the league. However, the thing that stays consistent is the poor/inconsistent play, the lack of identity, too much loyalty within the organization and the inability to adapt to today’s league. I honestly like Kenny, I think he needs one or two more years and a new QB coach. But we also need to instill hard nosed no nonsense coaching back in Pittsburgh and some new blood. I know some people may live and die by coach T but it’s time to move on. He’s become the uncle/grandad you know you can get away with doing things with.
“Kenny needs one or two more years” all while a receiver’s entire NFL career on average is 2 something years. The only position shorter than a receiver is a running back. These receivers don’t have time to stand in the end zone wide open and play around and wait for a QB to become decent in two years. In two years, they’re done or their market value is halfed. People see them as the prima donna problem when the short lifespan of their position in this business is their reality.
Hey Shannon I'm a steelers fan and you sir are completely right. Both of these players are selfish and egotistical and very prideful. Not prideful in a good way either. That is why these two relievers have little effort and bad attitudes. They ain't about the team they're about themselves. They need to bring in Hines ward as the wide receivers coach if anyone can get the full potential out of these two stud relievers and make them team players it's Hines ward man
Bears fan, here. PLEASE, Pittsburgh, fire Mike Tomlin. The guy's a horrible coach, and you can do better! (No, I'm not saying these things because I want to pull a Kansas City and hire your Hall-of-Fame coach four days after you fire him.)
Saying Pickens did it because of AB was dumb to me. Pickens been had bad history. If that’s the case why doesn’t Pickens work half as hard as AB who was widely known as one of the most hard working players in the nfl.
Y’all saying that Ocho is catering you are not LISTENING to what he is saying. All he did was give you an idea about why Gp might be acting the way he is. 85 is not GP nor is he at the facility. He gave his opinion on why he may be acting he is a Wr and better suited than Shannon to give his advice. I honestly think what he is saying is making sense if you listen to understand and not listen to just RESPOND
You have to be careful who you draft. Most Uber talented guys are not hard workers. The ones that want to be great, are the hardest workers. He's a young player also. Very immature as well. We are so impatient these days. Let's see how or if he changes or develops. The locker room has to get a handle on him or the Steelers will have to trade him. The CRAP we have at OC and QB is the main problem.
Imma be real. I’m a life long Steeler fan. But George has a right to feel the way he does. He feels like his career is being wasted. Ofc he’s wrong for not giving the full effort. But I can disagree & still understand the action
Your team was still in the hunt for a spot in the playoffs. If you’re not gonna do whatever it takes to help the team win especially in situations like that then you didn’t honor the contract you signed and maybe it’s time for Pittsburgh to move on to someone else that wants help the team actually win. He didn’t perform and he failed his team period.
Shannon Sharpe I want to know why is it that you’re bashing an African-American great coach like my town you know my town is a leader of men and it’s a shame for you to be able to get on national TV and bash African-American coach who has never had a losing season, Tomlin is a great leader of men and so are you I think that you should give him the respect that is due to him. He has a future Hall of Fame coach.
My only question is, why do it seem like Shannon has an issue with Coach Tomlin? Coach is a family man who raised his own kids well and is a good husband who happens to be the coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Why don't you do a show about wide receivers in general having issues with their behavior on and off the field. Coach Tomlin didn't grow up with George Pickens, didn't Coach him in youth football, didn't Coach him in high at Hoover, didn't Coach him at Georgia, but he is getting all the blame for his behavior and now is trying to correct the damage caused by someone else. Some of the receivers Shannon named had issues before they came to the Steelers. Smh!!
That talk that Shannon gave at the end is the reason he is a HOF and well respected and trusted amongst other athletes. The young people today needs to here that because it can be applied to everything you do in life and not just football. This unfiltered version of Shannon is great and I hope ESPN and Disney doesn't try and threaten his standing with them because of what he does on his podcast. I love these two.
The problem is how many players have Shannon worked with to make them a Hall of Famer. See Ocho works with these receivers in the offseason. They also listen to Ocho too about their game. Chad was probably the best AFC receiver for at least three years. Ocho should be in the Hall of Fame eventually.
Since everyone is jumping around the subject, I'm going to say it. It's easier for Black players to disrespect a Black coach, it's the way. These players would had never done same to Andy Reid, Belichick, or Jimmie Johnson. Stop playing
Shannon Sharp is right on. If my family was going though a hard time, and I had the resources and talents to help them and make the situation better but chose to watch and just stand by it does not speak to my talents but to content of my my character. How are we underutilized if we chose not to utilize our blocking abilities. Mike is not the issue. Grown, overpaid men are who don't do their job. We are losing anyway. Play the practice squad. Give them a chance. 😀
Live Ocho but he refuses to hold anybody accountable and makes excuses for everything! Lol.. Nothing justifying GP’s decision to be selfish when he’s playing the ultimate team sport.
I get what Chad is saying but he does need to stand his ground more. Sharp is a debater and will articulate his point until your viewpoint does not seem feasible.
Ocho was mostly on losing teams, where it was mostly about the star. Losing teams have this type of philosophy. That boy would be on the bench if he was a 9er.
Tomlin inflicted substantial harm on the entire team by retaining Canada not only after the last season but also persisting with him for half of this season when it was glaringly evident that it wasn't effective. This decision resulted in a significant loss of support from the locker room, and it required starting players airing their grievances in the media to prompt Tomlin to ultimately part ways with him. This is undeniably a troubling development.
You can only blame the receivers so many times. Antonio Brown was a problem, Chase Claypool was a problem, and now George Pickens is a problem. Maybe the steelers are the problem.
I love Ocho’s take here. Stating that what Pickens did was wrong but also pointing out the faults of the coaching staff as well in how they use him. I’ve been saying this from day 1, Pickens does not want to be there. Not saying that makes what he did right but it’s obvious that he does not want to be there and it’s becoming a problem.
It’s like going to a store and dealing with the employees who are rude, don’t care about you, give poor customer service. We say these frontline people are so rude - meanwhile they’re dealing with bad schedulers, unqualified supervisors, horrible corporate management, customers yelling at THEM for nothing being in the store, as if they run the company. There are much bigger issues here. Not an excuse. Big picture. Let’s see what happens.
Excellent analogy. Ironically the same customer who says a minimum wage worker or a waitress should get a better job is the same type of person who will say an athlete should be happy to make the money they make. All the while they are taking plays off at their professions as well.@@noble604
Shannon just talking. Not listening at all. He’s asking ocho a subjective question, ocho is giving a subjective answer, and Shannon saying that ain’t good enough
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“You screaming at me like I said it” 🤣🤣🤣
😂
Honestly there is no excuse for Pickens 😒
Makes it even worse that he has some bad ass blocks in the past.
@@zackhurwitz9441
Ppl aren't even talking about his effort on the interception, home boy just ran past the DB😅
Hrrm if I was Pickens I would be angry to if I had a bonehead cheerleader for a coach like Tomlin. "The talk" Tomlin had with Pickens was ridiculous. Zero insight or scheme........."turn it up in the second half". That's what you get with Tomlin. Cheerleader HC
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You can't blame anyone but yourself for lack of effort 😒
That's an individual thing, it's a lack of heart thing.
@@hounddog3476no he has a trash azz Kenny Pickett for qb and that’s a major poroblem
Ocho’s saying what Deion said is the reason he would never coach NFL. Deion said NFL players are grown men with ego, making a whole lot of money with no real love for the game and he can’t effectively coach or control that. Shannon knows that.
it depends on the organization
@@fadercreeknot really the vast majority of pro athletes don't actually love the game just wanna get paid
@@ONLYALEXISOMAR in this era of sports yeah but back in the day they actually loved it
@@ONLYALEXISOMARdamn good thing we got you to speak on behalf of all pro athletes
@@slacproductions9595 you must be living under a rock if you think different why do think most people say college sports are better?
Ocho is exactly right. He’s not excusing the behavior, he’s giving a reason for it. And Shannon just yelling the whole time about how it should be and ocho is saying what it is
And the reason this is what it is, is because these men want to be stars in this league and they have the ability to do it. Look at what Tyreek and Devante Adams got paid. This is generational wealth. George Pickens has the ability to be that put he’s stuck with Mason Rudolph and Kenny Pickett throwing him the ball. It’s not right. Pickens could be Justin Jefferson level in the right system.
That is excusing the behavior
Ocho will never make it on First Take with this fear of being critical. Sometimes being nice does more harm than being real.
Actually that’ll be perfect. The job is to argue points and facts. That’s their job, it’s just how skip and Shannon was on the lebron segments.
I disagree. What harm is he doing? He is being real. Pickens has a point of view. It may not be the point of view that we want him to have as an NFL receiver, but Ocho is giving us insight as to why the situation is what it is.
@@Michael_Page agreed!
@@Michael_PageAnd that's the issue with this new age of thinking. Just because you have a POV doesn't mean it's right and if it's an incorrect POV you need to change it. This idea that we need to see everyone's POV is how wars are started, it's how mediocrity is created accepted and tolerated. His behavior is immature and team dividing at best.
Wrong.. And you don't work for First Take so there's no point in listening to your opinion anyways
If Chad wants to succeed in podcasting and tv analysis he has to stop catering to players and be honest! He’s too worried about them being mad it him for keeping it real
so true..i love the chemistry of chad and unk but chad seems to cater to all players and not chastise them as he shooullllddd
He feels like you can’t be critical and still be liked and it’s possible to do as long as you’re not levying personal attacks. Chad tells us to ignore our eyes and it’s disingenuous as hell.
He's being himself which ultimately is more important. His perspective provides a balance. I don't think I would like the show as much if they agreed on everything or offered the same insight.
And he said George was the best wideout from thar draft. UMMM Garrett Wilson clears him every day of the week.
BINGO, YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD!!!
Shannon misses the fire of debating like he did with Skip 😂
I was just going to say that… Skip always disputed what Shannon said and it always made for great television and I feel like that’s what he’s missing but Ocho doesn’t like to fire back lol
NO.. he doesn't miss it. Shannon will be better without that Skip Bayless
@@richardwright1639nah they complemented each other well
@@richardwright1639 you’re bugging
Yeah because now he just agrees with Stephen a Smith and is very boring compared to before
I dont know why people are going off on Ocho. He is trying to pretend he is Pickens or in his head during ge thought process. He started out saying what he did wasn't right
Yeah Shannon was arguing against a point ocho didn’t make
“I love being a life guard but damn I hate this water” 😂😂😂😂
Ocho needs to stop. This is part of the reason he can’t get on tv. Not being objective and he’s never serious
He don’t need to be on tv. I rather him speak how he feel than to lie and be on tv.
I mean he did call him out for not showing any effort but he always try to let people down softly
Has he said he wanted to be on TV?
@@Hgdeettvsays it every episode
It’s not that serious, we don’t need him to be serious! We need him to be Ocho
Ocho demonstrating why Coach Prime immediately shot down his offer to "help" him in Colorado
Because he asked about money upfront and Prime wants guys that want to do the job first, THEN talk about money.
"They gave you X, Y, Z, and you want R, S, T" Got to use that one 😂
Pickens was a blocking monster early in the season and preseason. He’s clearly frustrated, but he has to be a professional and keep putting in 💯
chad tried to block ray lewis
😂🤣🤣 that was funny including Ray’s response ‘I didn’t feel you’
Thanks for covering this. I know it's hard to talk about this nonsense
Ocho you have to be honest and hold your friends accountable to, that guy was totally out of line. He gets paid so he should block just as well as he catch passes. If I was the coach, and he did this again he would be benched and traded quick fast and in a hurry.
Easy fix. Pickens needs to go on Kick Off team this week. Go down and hit somebody. Change the narrative and earn that respect back.
I love Ocho but he was also a diva reciever, one of the first ones really. So it's not wonder he takes GPs side
Not really…
I see why Unc asks the same questions over and over. He doesn't be listening to Ocho. Ocho tells him the answers to his questions and if he doesn't like his answer he is ready to flip out. Lol. 😂😂😂😂
Ocho just bringing context into why these young men are making these loafing decisions. I like Shannon’s take on how the coach lets them do it. George Pickens was a blocking monster at UGA. He went viral on multiple blocks he made there.
There’s literally a highlight video of Pickens trucking DBs
He has highlights doing the same thing in the nfl aswell
That's what makes his actions more glaring.
I think it's necessary to hear someone talk from the players perspective such as Ocho. Challenge the thoughts & offer understanding. Because sometimes ppl follow the crowd in bashing a player. It forces the hand of explanation for your criticism. Hey but UNC be on point & explains well. Great show 👏
Love the fact that Shannon keeps it real and doesnt give excuses. Piss poor attitude from Pickens....dude is on the way to becoming another AB. Tomlin gotta go.
Pickens is not even in the same stratosphere as AB, as far as being a player. AB would never pull a move like this, Pickens is the one that needs to go!
Why are you naming Ab? He wasn't known for this.
You forgot Juju and Claypool you just saying anything bruh
Pickens will never be on ABs level....hes not even near Jujus level yet...Hines , juju, Claypool Holmes, all blocked...
AB gave WAY more effort.
tomlin? lmao one of the greatest coaches of all time, and the only reason this garbage franchise is even relevant
Just cause Ocho ain’t animated and yelling doesn’t mean he not holding George Pickens accountable he said multiple times he cant do that and that he doesn’t condone it he just is giving insight from a wide receiver y’all just don’t listen lmao he said it multiple times just in a nice way 😂 he
Pickens did actually have concerns at Georgia. This didn't start in Pittsburgh. Steelers just still decided to take a chance
As a Georgia fan his issues were overblown and they certainly had nothing to do with his effort on the field.
@@malchills2527they clearly do
hell he had them in high school at Hoover. It’s just amplified now bc he’s in the league.
I ain’t getting the ball so I won’t block, spoiled and entitled!
@@tyler2009123 No, they don't. He was a very good blocker at Georgia, and his issues were way overblown.
Shannon, you just earned mad respect from me and the Steeler nation for the way you explained how it is to Ocho. Pittsburgh was built by average men like me who get it out there every day busting their asses off for their family. Mailing it in has never been part of the mind set of this city. That's why people in Pittsburgh are so disgusted by Pickens. We'd rather lose out for this season than condone this guy talent or no talent.
This: Why I always loved my Steelers. They may not have had teams dripping with talent but they fought with all their heart the entire 60 minutes. Some average players would put on that uniform and it meant something to them.
I watched an old 70's Steeler game on TH-cam against the Colts I think. John Stahworth ( Not an average player ) delivered a block that took out 2 defenders which sprung Franco for a touchdown and won the game. They won 13-6 I believe. He wasnt worried about his stats that day or possibly getting hurt.
Steelers need to find unselfish lunchpail players who will do what needs to be done to win. The winning culture in Pittsburgh is being wrecked by these divas.
Love it bro…good to see this mindset still exists in this country! Gotta make it to your city next year…never been and I hear it’s beautiful
Y’all need that Hines ward dog back
@@terrellgaither8699 100%
Shannon makes amazing analogies
I'm a Ravens fan and even I can admit Pickens is a DAWG. But damn the Steelers are ruining this man's career. .
Does it to himself when he acts like a scrub
I'm rewatching this after Pickens went for 195 and 2 TDs today.
“Somebody got some splainin to dooooo”….😂😂😂😂😂
Chad is right. Loosing puts everything under the microscope. If they were winning games none of this ever gets mentioned. The QB position is in limbo. Loosing brings out the microscopes. Coach, O line, D line it all rolls down hill.
Many receivers don't see the value in anything but the ball coming to them. Guys like George Kittle are always so impressive where you see them running the ball with CMC or Deebo. Kittle is slamming every guy he can get his hands on.
What teams that are elite like 49ers. Every player regardless of position is giving everything they have. That is what makes champions. Whoever wins the SB will be the team that every player on the team has that mentality. Always is.
Kittle (TE vs WR) has 50lbs on Pickens, easy.
Losing*
@@noble604Brandon Aiyuk plays the same way. As does Jauan Jennings.
Ocho just gave an explanation for why the player is reacting the way he is. There’s no good reason to not block as a receiver but there’s a reason why the receiver wouldn’t block
What you just said makes no sense lmao
@@tyler2009123Think you skipped a few too many classes if you can't comprehend that.
As a coach, how would you respond?
@@EFunkRock I’d bench him because it seems he doesn’t want to play.
@@tyler2009123 a receiver not blocking shouldn’t be tolerated. But a player having an ego and being a diva would trigger a disgruntled player to “act out” and not block on a play
I loved this segment. This is iron sharpening iron.
It seems like they've got an ego problem and aren't trying because they blame the franchise for their own short comings.
There is blame to be given to the franchise. We’re talking about top receivers who never get the ball .... under a MCanada-led strategy producing the worst offense in the League. There are levels to this. It’s much less black and white for these receivers than “just go do your job.” There’s no job to do if nobody can get them a ball.
bgperfect - Sure did and I heard Shannon say he never asked more from anybody than he was willing to give.
If you’re not being used properly, much less, at all in your position, because nobody can get you the ball, and you’re wasting every game of an entire season watching millions in potential future earnings go down the drain because you’re underperforming and not putting up numbers to show your level of talent if only somebody could ......get you ...... the ......... ball..... (knowing you never again will have the speed, agility or maybe even health that you have right now,) do you think you’re as willing to risk it all to take those injury-producing hits to give to an organization that you believe is not giving to you? This is not a justification. It’s just human nature.
He’s young. He’s not seasoned. He also needs some time and time to face the harsh disappointment of a tough season where he could have been a huge help and made a big difference..... if only he was used right and somebody ......
could ..... get .... him...... the ball. . That’s the reality.
Dumb take
I heard Jimmy Johnson say at the Pro level, star players should get treated differently than role players. He said stars get fined and role players get cut.
Ocho wants to be everybody’s friend. All this “I love you to death boy” and “I rock with you baby” is cool on here, but it’s not going to fly on national tv. This is probably why Shannon doesn’t want him on First Take😭
Shannon is a great motivational speaker , should expand on that.
If the players LOVE & RESPECT Tomlin so much why aren't they playing hard for him???
The problem is there isnt a QB in Pittsburgh that can get them the ball. No excuse for the effort but they are out there just getting cardio
Jimmy Johnson also said if an average player falls in the film room he cuts them, if it's Troy Aikman he wakes him up. So I guess if you're good enough you tolerate it.
😂😂😂 Ocho always has justification for everything and everybody
He has to support opposing arguments, he is not good at it though
Unc PREACHING at the end. Goddamn those some words of wisdom.
COMPLETELY AGREE WITH UNC... Pickens soft asl for that💯
BLOCKING & PUTTING IN MAXIMUM EFFORT GOES ALL THE WAY BACK TO PEEWEE FOOTBALL!!!!
THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THAT!!!
GEORGE PICKENS IS GONNA PLAY HIMSELF OUT THE LEAGUE LIKE CHASE CLAYPOOL IS DOING!!!!!
I don't know why Ocho thinks he has to defend every player. Pickens didn't just decide not to block, he gave absolutely no effort. Didn't even get in his way.
I really like Ocho but I’m tired of him making excuses for everyone that’s why players like Pickens continue to act how they act
I get both sides. I understand why he's frustrated but this aint the way. This is what happens when you dont have THE guy under center.
Ocho has to stop being so nice.
Man Shannon got that wisdom and discernment..like en vogue said "free ya mind and the rest will follow"
Shannon is a hard-working machine! God bless that man
Before I even watch the clip, I’m going to assume Ocho is going to say Pickens did nothing wrong. Smh, what a joke!
He said he was wrong
Pickens did have antics at UGA (his maturity coming into the league was a big talking point).
I'm from and live in ATL, it was indeed widely discussed in sports circles around here!
lol when 85 brought it up and said “idk either” lmaooooo I knew a quick google search would answer it 💀
I’m a Pittsburgh fan born and raised and the problem is there’s no more pride in the Steeler culture. Tomlin has slowly lost control ever since the AB antics and JuJu dancing on the field. Once juju left you heard nothing else from him and AB ran himself out of the league. However, the thing that stays consistent is the poor/inconsistent play, the lack of identity, too much loyalty within the organization and the inability to adapt to today’s league. I honestly like Kenny, I think he needs one or two more years and a new QB coach. But we also need to instill hard nosed no nonsense coaching back in Pittsburgh and some new blood. I know some people may live and die by coach T but it’s time to move on. He’s become the uncle/grandad you know you can get away with doing things with.
Damn I typed this before I finished the video and Unc literally said what I said, or Vice versa I guess
@@rio6524Tomlin needs to go, the Steelers need to find a new HC. This off season coming up.
“Kenny needs one or two more years” all while a receiver’s entire NFL career on average is 2 something years. The only position shorter than a receiver is a running back.
These receivers don’t have time to stand in the end zone wide open and play around and wait for a QB to become decent in two years. In two years, they’re done or their market value is halfed. People see them as the prima donna problem when the short lifespan of their position in this business is their reality.
Funny thing..Ju Ju wasn’t dancing on logos in KC or currently in NE. Hmmm😮
Coach Bellichek needs to come to Pittsburgh.
Hey Shannon I'm a steelers fan and you sir are completely right. Both of these players are selfish and egotistical and very prideful. Not prideful in a good way either. That is why these two relievers have little effort and bad attitudes. They ain't about the team they're about themselves. They need to bring in Hines ward as the wide receivers coach if anyone can get the full potential out of these two stud relievers and make them team players it's Hines ward man
Why the Steelers didn’t hire Ward years ago is a mystery 😮
@@Biggdoom344 yea for real man he'd bring that steelers culture back to the offense
Good job guys!! Thanks for keeping it real!! Go Steelers!!
Ocho is giving points as to why Pickens is upset. But that's no excuse to act the way he does on the field.
Unc’s sermon at the end is exactly what I needed today 💪🏻
That shit touched my soul 💯
I be writing down alot notes
Shannon Sharp!!! Spitting straight Facts!!!
Bears fan, here. PLEASE, Pittsburgh, fire Mike Tomlin. The guy's a horrible coach, and you can do better! (No, I'm not saying these things because I want to pull a Kansas City and hire your Hall-of-Fame coach four days after you fire him.)
His biggest effect was playing hopscotch on that play
Saying Pickens did it because of AB was dumb to me. Pickens been had bad history. If that’s the case why doesn’t Pickens work half as hard as AB who was widely known as one of the most hard working players in the nfl.
I love Chad to death but this was not it. Im gonna have to agree with Shannon here
Y’all saying that Ocho is catering you are not LISTENING to what he is saying. All he did was give you an idea about why Gp might be acting the way he is. 85 is not GP nor is he at the facility. He gave his opinion on why he may be acting he is a Wr and better suited than Shannon to give his advice. I honestly think what he is saying is making sense if you listen to understand and not listen to just RESPOND
Ocho doesn’t deal with facts. Everyone has an opinion but you need FACTS to back things up
And that’s the weakness of this great show…Ocho’s tired act of never giving criticism
This one of the realest podcast for sports. point blank period. I fw this channel heavy
Ain't no way Shannon gonna vouch for Ocho and put him on First Take if he can't stop cursing! LOL
You can really tell who played TE and who played WR🤣
You have to be careful who you draft. Most Uber talented guys are not hard workers. The ones that want to be great, are the hardest workers. He's a young player also. Very immature as well. We are so impatient these days. Let's see how or if he changes or develops. The locker room has to get a handle on him or the Steelers will have to trade him. The CRAP we have at OC and QB is the main problem.
Imma be real. I’m a life long Steeler fan. But George has a right to feel the way he does. He feels like his career is being wasted. Ofc he’s wrong for not giving the full effort. But I can disagree & still understand the action
They need to block. They have RBs blocking for the QB to give him time to throw them WRs the ball. So when the RBs are rushing, them WRs better block.
Your team was still in the hunt for a spot in the playoffs. If you’re not gonna do whatever it takes to help the team win especially in situations like that then you didn’t honor the contract you signed and maybe it’s time for Pittsburgh to move on to someone else that wants help the team actually win. He didn’t perform and he failed his team period.
Damn that’s some motivation at the end
Ocho wants to be a babysitter because Im sure thats how Cincinatti used to have to treat him back in the day lmao
OCHO MAKING EXCUSES FOR GEORGE PICKENS!!!!
Chad stay Cape'n for ppl
Shannon Sharpe I want to know why is it that you’re bashing an African-American great coach like my town you know my town is a leader of men and it’s a shame for you to be able to get on national TV and bash African-American coach who has never had a losing season, Tomlin is a great leader of men and so are you I think that you should give him the respect that is due to him. He has a future Hall of Fame coach.
Ocho that friend everybody needs haha
Yeah if you wanna look like fool to the rest of the world
My only question is, why do it seem like Shannon has an issue with Coach Tomlin? Coach is a family man who raised his own kids well and is a good husband who happens to be the coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Why don't you do a show about wide receivers in general having issues with their behavior on and off the field. Coach Tomlin didn't grow up with George Pickens, didn't Coach him in youth football, didn't Coach him in high at Hoover, didn't Coach him at Georgia, but he is getting all the blame for his behavior and now is trying to correct the damage caused by someone else. Some of the receivers Shannon named had issues before they came to the Steelers. Smh!!
That talk that Shannon gave at the end is the reason he is a HOF and well respected and trusted amongst other athletes. The young people today needs to here that because it can be applied to everything you do in life and not just football. This unfiltered version of Shannon is great and I hope ESPN and Disney doesn't try and threaten his standing with them because of what he does on his podcast. I love these two.
Well said…👍🏽👍🏽
The problem is how many players have Shannon worked with to make them a Hall of Famer. See Ocho works with these receivers in the offseason. They also listen to Ocho too about their game. Chad was probably the best AFC receiver for at least three years. Ocho should be in the Hall of Fame eventually.
@@eporter8213man he still my favorite WR but he was not better then Marvin Harrison or Andre Johnson and Texans QB was ass like chads
@@eporter8213but HOF Hell yea I’m still waiting his footwork was crazy and his heart was huge
Since everyone is jumping around the subject, I'm going to say it. It's easier for Black players to disrespect a Black coach, it's the way. These players would had never done same to Andy Reid, Belichick, or Jimmie Johnson. Stop playing
And Shannon is lying he never said he didn’t punish Pickens stop it he said he did but that’s not for the media to know about.
Shannon Sharp is right on. If my family was going though a hard time, and I had the resources and talents to help them and make the situation better but chose to watch and just stand by it does not speak to my talents but to content of my my character. How are we underutilized if we chose not to utilize our blocking abilities. Mike is not the issue. Grown, overpaid men are who don't do their job. We are losing anyway. Play the practice squad. Give them a chance. 😀
Live Ocho but he refuses to hold anybody accountable and makes excuses for everything! Lol.. Nothing justifying GP’s decision to be selfish when he’s playing the ultimate team sport.
Stop it Chad… It’s a team sport, you do the most as an individual to contribute to the whole’s success. Pickens clearly didn’t understand that concept
A WR could rob a orphanage and Chad would defend them
Cus there's two sides to every story
The more I watch the more I realize y chad hasn’t gotten that undisputed appearance
This is hands down the best and most realist conversation about Pickens I’ve seen while. If Shannon had a church, I would be there.
What program these use to record this?
youtub
I get what Chad is saying but he does need to stand his ground more. Sharp is a debater and will articulate his point until your viewpoint does not seem feasible.
Ocho was mostly on losing teams, where it was mostly about the star. Losing teams have this type of philosophy. That boy would be on the bench if he was a 9er.
BTW… as a die hard Steeler fan #85 was a BEAST! 😳
Tomlin inflicted substantial harm on the entire team by retaining Canada not only after the last season but also persisting with him for half of this season when it was glaringly evident that it wasn't effective. This decision resulted in a significant loss of support from the locker room, and it required starting players airing their grievances in the media to prompt Tomlin to ultimately part ways with him. This is undeniably a troubling development.
I'm a person doing rather well for myself, but Shannon have to realize, it's mostly the average people making your podcast successful.
You can only blame the receivers so many times. Antonio Brown was a problem, Chase Claypool was a problem, and now George Pickens is a problem. Maybe the steelers are the problem.
I love Ocho’s take here. Stating that what Pickens did was wrong but also pointing out the faults of the coaching staff as well in how they use him. I’ve been saying this from day 1, Pickens does not want to be there. Not saying that makes what he did right but it’s obvious that he does not want to be there and it’s becoming a problem.
It’s like going to a store and dealing with the employees who are rude, don’t care about you, give poor customer service. We say these frontline people are so rude - meanwhile they’re dealing with bad schedulers, unqualified supervisors, horrible corporate management, customers yelling at THEM for nothing being in the store, as if they run the company. There are much bigger issues here. Not an excuse. Big picture. Let’s see what happens.
Excellent analogy. Ironically the same customer who says a minimum wage worker or a waitress should get a better job is the same type of person who will say an athlete should be happy to make the money they make. All the while they are taking plays off at their professions as well.@@noble604
Steelers front office have a pattern of drafting talent not character, it’s like they’re the girl that thinks they can fix a man with clear flags.
I feel bad for the wr's deeper on the roster that ARE professional & have to sit there watching Pickens play selfishly & act childish.
@@noble604 Fuck that, store employees don't make millions of dollars
Love Ocho but cmon man stop tryna make excuses for these players. He has to be more objective otherwise he’ll never be able to take that next step
“ I didn’t say it in those words but I said that” 8:52 nah chad got it 😂😂😂 how u said something but didn’t say it in those words 😂😂😂
Uncle Shay came with the Ray Lewis speech!!!
Ocho tried to block Ray Lewis😂
Shannon just talking. Not listening at all. He’s asking ocho a subjective question, ocho is giving a subjective answer, and Shannon saying that ain’t good enough