My dad and I were at this game and it was the first time we had ever been inside Lambeau Field. You can imagine we were like kids in a candy store. Both of us had been to Packers games in Milwaukee County Stadium (vs the Eagles in 1992), Camp Randall Stadium (preseason game vs the Bills in 1991), and Soldier Field (the Halloween quagmire vs the Bears in 1994). I had no idea about this referee.
@Bryan Smith there were team, player and/or organization penalties for both of these things. No reasonable observer thinks they were under punished for the tapegate, and nothing proved TB had anything personally to do with deflating footballs but served a suspension for it. Do you even take you seriously at this point?
At 3:43, when Gator here says "before I tell you what he did," I got tired of being strung along and looked it up. On Nov. 26, 1995, Bergman went into the Packers' locker room and asked Brett Favre to autograph eight cards, saying it was for his grandson.
Bergman's son Jeff was already an NFL line judge, and Jerry Bergman Jr. became an NFL official in 2002. Both are still in the league, and Jeff will surpass his dad in years of service in 2022.
@@marcus813 The only truly memorable thing Wyche did during his coaching career was to scold drunk off their asses Bungles fans that, "You don't live in Cleveland" public address he made in 1989!
Wait, are you saying the oldest guy in the league, who is never under any pressure up to 10 seconds, starts his drives at the 40, runs like a girl, and can cry like an f'n baby till the refs do what he wants, and is also the best player ever is suspicious to you?🤣🤣🤣🤣 Tom Baby is a TOTAL FRAUD!!!!
@@sillyrascal3382 Dude......HE'S A PHONY! I'm sorry if that hurts you but a painful truth is better than fake bullshit that's comfortable. The NFL props him up because he's marketable. He's their #1 cash cow.
Before watching this video, I thought the dumbest referees in NFL history were the ones working the infamous 2001 game in Cleveland who made a terrible call that provoked a violent riot by the fans, who pelted the refs with beer bottles, causing the fiasco to be dubbed "Bottlegate".
This is a sad incident in an otherwise remarkable NFL officiating career. As an experienced football official, we try to instill in all young officials that they must always be unbiased and avoid anything that would call your neutrality and integrity into question. Seeking autographs or appearing to be buddies with players or coaches while officiating those teams or in their league is unethical.
NBA refs are horrible with joking around and being buddy buddy with players LeBron is buddy buddy with all the refs seems like. He's always laughing cutting up with them and no one can deny he gets away with a lot. Same with tons of others in league.
Not excusing this referees behavior but this was an old ref at the tail end of his career. The league had exploded in popularity in the mid 90's and these players were larger than life. It was definitely the height of the NFL and I don't think there was really protocol for this sort of thing.
In 1995, it could not have been common knowledge what Brett Favre's autograph looked like. Hell, I doubt I could even find it today. Just scribble something on a piece of paper and give it to your grandkid, how would he ever know. *smh*
I can't speak for officials, but as a reporter for NFL games in the early 1990s, I learned that rule #1 for reporters is don't ask for autographs (not that I would want to, which I wouldn't). You can be banned from NFL games and practices FOREVER if you do.
This applies to working any sort of event, whether sports or concerts. I remember the rules for organizations doing concession stands (as it's generally a fundraiser). Asking for an autograph could get your entire organization banned from the concession stand fundraisers.
Wow. I graduated from Southern Miss in Dec ‘91 and Brett was such a phenomenal athlete. We were next door neighbors for a year or so at an apartment complex. What an arm!!
I thought the dumbest refs were in the Monday Night game when replacement refs stole a victory away from Green Bay over an egregious endzone call to end the game against Seattle Seahawks
Yes, but that was the phony Replacement ref season where they used Division 1 lower reffs not the newly made NCAAF division or what ever name is of the higher then D1 NCAA division. The dumbest reff actually just happened to be the most out of shape, was in the 2019 or 2018 season that was the first year of the NFL 100 when they had the Packers play the Bears, at Lambeau field, the reff was the Moustache guy who was so out of shape he had to take a time out to recover at one point and I have never seen the young guy who looked younger then me and I was 29 or 30 at the time. He missed the first play of that game and was so out of shape He was not able to see plays having to use replay though use the machine quickly after the faster plays he was not in the area to see the incident happen. The Reffs all wore the first official Ref uniform in NFL history from 1920 when the NFL got more serious about the League. Before this the ref was a local NCAA ref they borrowed for the game and just wore the Ref uniform of the division the ref coached.
This story is very similar to what happened in Germany a decade later involving soccer referee Robert Hoyzer in which he went into the locker room of Paderborn and got paid $5000 by the club to make sure he gave them favorable calls in their 1st round German Cup match vs Hamburg. Paderborn won that match 2-1 in an upset thanks to Hoyzer calling two very questionable penalty kicks. However unlike this story, it also turns out that Hoyzer was in cahoots with a Croatian gambling syndicate to fix the match and Hoyzer immediately paid them the $5000 so that his gambling debts could be cleared. This turned into a massive scandal that rocked German soccer in 2005 as four other referees along with Hoyzer confessed to taking bribes from the syndicate along with a few clubs along with betting on games they refereed. As a result, Hoyzer & the four other referees were banned for life and were given prison sentences lasting between 2 months-1 & half years. Lastly Hamburg received $2 million in compensation for being unfairly treated and getting knocked out of a lucrative competition.
This is so not like that. Especially considering that the referee did the exact opposite of giving the Packers favorable calls. He got his autographs and gave them a bunch of penalties...
This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made a video about how another long officiating career ended, this of Armen Terzian, after a 1988 game between the Giants and Cowboys.
This Bucs team was an enigma this season. At the start of this game, they were 6-5. When they would win, they'd barely win with the exception of the first game against Philly. But when they would lose, they would get trounced. Of their 9 losses, this was most of them: 22-6, 25-6, 19-7, 35-13, 31-17, 31-10, 37-10. When they would win, this is their scores: 14-6, 20-13, 19-16, 20-17, 17-16, 13-10. In short, they weren't good. So no matter what, no amount of referee cheating would have mattered. That said, when extracurricular activities break out after a play pretty much 100% of the time the instigator isn't the one who's flagged. It's usually the one who retaliates and considering that when this fight happened flags were thrown from everywhere but the blimp I would doubt Bergman had any influence on the actual call.
Yeah, if you're an official and you mess up that publicly, especially if it looks like it could impact the integrity of a game, you're not going to stay on. Different sport, but after the Good Friday Massacre, Bruce Hood was essentially forced out as a referee.
@@dentonyoung4314 yep. Officially he retired. Unofficially, it was a mercy killing. Nobody knows what his thought process was, like Ray Handley, he would never speak to anyone about that game.
How about the part where a referee is promising Brett Favre some "good calls?" How is that not also a problem? It kind of reminds me of Caddyshack, when Dangerfield is saying to Lou 'said referee' Loomis "Keep it fair, keep it fair" as he's handing him money.
Asking for autographs? Really? Weak. I thought he was feeding inside information to the bookies, or putting money on games and doing biased officiating. That in my eyes is majorly illegal. Not this.
By favoring one team over another a referee may affect who wins a game but they will definitely affect the final score which can have a major affect on sports gambling. Points shaving.
Yeah that was my first thought when he talked about all the calls going against the Packers, though the fact that the ejection situation instead went against the Bucs made me think something was odd.
I'm surprised 😯😯😯😯😯 Brett Favre didn't get in trouble like Pete Rose. Ref: Brett, could I have at least five autographs. Brett Favre: Yes, I'll give you your five autographs. Hook me up with some favorable calls on the field. Ref: You got it.
5 autographs? That sounds like the grandson or someone else was planning on selling them. No person needs 5 unless cashing in is their motive. Regardless, it is a conflict of interest to take any favor, even non monetary, from someone you are about to referee. It’s not a small infraction. How could this veteran ref have not understood that?
An actual big deal is John Madden's 'close personal relationship' with Ben "Let's steal Super Bowl XI from the Patriots and give it to the Raiders" Dreith
Hey Jaq I got a good one for you. There was a game were a cowboys center moved the ball on a field goal attempt in Washington and was called for illegal procedure!!! I think it was close to a game winner!!! I think it's the only time it's been called in like 50 yrs!!!
This was a truly terrible occurrence TWENTY-SEVEN YEARS AGO and my heart still aches over the injustice (sob). Thanks for the rehashing of ancient history.
I'm still incredibly angry that Wayne Gretzky scored the winning goal against my Maple Leafs in the 1993 playoffs. He should have been in the box for high sticking! Let me make a long stupid ranting video about it! Maybe it was 92?
I can't speak for NFL officials, but college officials are never anywhere near players and coaches after a game. They have separate locker rooms and are escorted out as a group. I doubt that NFL officials do things any differently.
@@patrickmorgan4006 good point. I'd like to think that autographs and memorabilia are perks of the job, but conflict of interest is a thing, and when millions of dollars are at stake, it's more than just a "game". Which kinda sucks.
The guy had a good run for over 30 years as a referee. He was most likely going to retire anyways. He just went out in style and he’s still being talked about today.
The fact that this video is NOT about Jeff Triplette alone is a black eye on Jerry Bergman. LOL In all seriousness, as a former head linesman in high school football and a ref for a adult flag football league, I never would have considered doing anything like this! Yeah, air quotes around "retired" are definitely warranted! Holy shit!
I mean trying to get autographs from a high school kid or a 30 year old who plays a game of recess once a week on Wednesday nights isn’t exactly comparable to getting one from one of the greatest qbs in nfl history but okay I guess we’ll let you pretend it is. 😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡
Nickerson was the only player ejected because he was the only one that threw a punch. Any player that throws a punch is pretty much automatically ejected.
Really kind of sad that Bergman's career ended over this. The thing is he could have gotten those autographs in an indirect way, through an emissary. Then he could have said discreet thank yous to the players involved. He would have Christmas gifts for his grandson and there would not even be a semblance of impropriety. But when he entered the lockerrooms and made direct contact with the players, he set himself up for the "perfect storm" that ended his career.
I can see and agree it's unprofessional for reff to ask for autographs before a game instead of waiting until after but idk if that made him bias. He made calls for both sides pretty well.
To prevent this again, each team needs someone to aquire autographs after a game to be anonymous as to who it is for. Weather a ref, an apposing coach, an apposing player. It is sketchy for before the game. After, I'm guessing there may not have been an issue.
I feel bad for the grandson. His grandpa was just trying to get him a cool Christmas present, but went about it in really bad way and ended up losing his job. How do you think his grandson felt knowing that when he got those autographs for Christmas?
This is teenager drama. He was a highly rated ref for decades and was one of five to do it for 30 years plus. He was just as highly regarded when he retired after this. They usually get their autos for family after the game but he was elderly and didn’t want to have to try to get to them safely after the game. They had to do something about it but no one right he was a poor ref or had thrown games.
Could you imagine if the shield held refs accounatble like this in the modern day? This guy was essentially fired for what boiled down to an innocuous joke comment and some inappropriate christmas shopping. Refs today will blatantly change the outcomes of major televised games with video evidence to back up allegations of cheating, and be rewarded with more primetime games.
He is definitely an excellent researcher. He should have a degree in the history of sports. I liked those past Bucs' uniforms. I've heard the Packers have the refs in their hands, this leads credence to that argument.
The "9" In the lower right hand corner of the game film means that this recording came from WAOW Channel 9 in Wausau, WI... Which is an ABC affiliate! Fox took over the NFC package in the '90s (it was CBS in the '80s), but because there was no Fox affiliate in central Wisconsin, WAOW got the feed instead. I know this because I grew up in central Wisconsin in the '90s, so this is how I watched all those Packer games 🙂
Isn't the referee in question mostly just a ball spotter? I don't think he was the head man, so I'm not sure if he had the authority to eject a player.
I thought this video would be about the replacement ref who was about to officiate a 2012 Saints-Panthers gamd until the NFL saw his Facebook profile and saw he was a Saints fan.
@@OfficialJaguarGator9 yeah everyone remembers the #FailMary game from that lockout but this was arguably worse. The Saints had enough going on with Bountygate, plus Carolina ultimately won that game so imagine the impact it would've had.
Was Bergman the one who tossed Nickerson? The referee makes that call, so was Bergman responsible for saying who should be ejected? Was that ever revealed?
I don't think we'll ever know for sure how that all went down, but that isn't the point. The point was that from an appearances standpoint alone, between the incident where Bergman was going into the locker rooms asking for autographs (getting one from Favre but not Nickerson), and the highly unusual situation where Nickerson was ejected from a fight he didn't instigate but the instigator was not, it _looked_ potentially very bad to anyone who knew about all this. There's a basic rule, that someone who's supposed to be an impartial arbiter has to avoid any potentially obvious appearances of impartiality when feasible. And by looking for player autographs before the game, that rule was broken big time.
Bergman's ejection of Nickerson despite the latter not being the instigator doesn't pass my smell test. If Bergman doesn't seek those autographs, he might have avoided all that scrutiny. Not a good look given that he was a game official. As for the game, the Bucs entered with a winning record, but they started 5-2 (five-dash-two as Wyche called it) and collapsed down the stretch, culminating in a 2-7 skid that left the Bucs at seven-dash-nine and costing Wyche his job. The cheapskate known as Hugh Culvherouse hired him and in '95, the Glazer family took over after Culverhouse's death and had no loyalty to Wyche.
Bergman wouldn't have had the authority to eject anyone. This isn't baseball. Only the referee can eject players, not the head linesman and the smell test doesn't play here as with pretty much every incident like this it's the one who retaliates who gets the flag, not the instigator. So when you saw nearly every official throw a flag, he wasn't the only one to see the incident.
He is the one that threw the punch. It's always been this way. if he would have just pushed back then most likely nothing would have happened or a flag would have been thrown. Obviously the officials didn't see the initial push just like the cameras didn't. One thing you won't get away with, especially in today's NFL, is throwing a punch. It is just an instant ejection.
My dad and I were at this game and it was the first time we had ever been inside Lambeau Field. You can imagine we were like kids in a candy store. Both of us had been to Packers games in Milwaukee County Stadium (vs the Eagles in 1992), Camp Randall Stadium (preseason game vs the Bills in 1991), and Soldier Field (the Halloween quagmire vs the Bears in 1994). I had no idea about this referee.
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He went into the locker room and asked for autographs from Packers players before the game, for those of you who want the short version.
Thank You, I hate drawn out videos.
Maybe if you give JaguarGator9 your autograph, he’ll shorten the video.
He drags this out WAY too long. I've always said I can skip to the middle of the video and not miss a thing.
@@jimroscovius This could have been three minutes
@@DuffyHomes I'd even give him 5 minutes. He goes through this whole back story that we don't need. He could start with the game.
It's amazing how a great career can come to a screeching halt over an autograph.
@Bryan Smith there were team, player and/or organization penalties for both of these things. No reasonable observer thinks they were under punished for the tapegate, and nothing proved TB had anything personally to do with deflating footballs but served a suspension for it. Do you even take you seriously at this point?
@Bryan Smith Stop the Steal
At 3:43, when Gator here says "before I tell you what he did," I got tired of being strung along and looked it up. On Nov. 26, 1995, Bergman went into the Packers' locker room and asked Brett Favre to autograph eight cards, saying it was for his grandson.
Me, too. A two minute video as strung out to take over 16 minutes.
Bergman's son Jeff was already an NFL line judge, and Jerry Bergman Jr. became an NFL official in 2002. Both are still in the league, and Jeff will surpass his dad in years of service in 2022.
@Bryan Smith What’s that got to do with anything?
Fun Fact: Later that season the Buccaneers would beat the Packers in the rematch, breaking their streak of 12 straight 10-loss seasons.
With the Glazer family starting its regime that season, even that wasn't enough to save Sam Wyche's job.
@@marcus813 to be fair, it was a 7-9 record in his fourth season
@@mkepioneet True, especially considering that Tampa Bay started 5-2 in 1995.
@@hrtvfan2870 Or, as Wyche called it, "five-dash-two."
@@marcus813 The only truly memorable thing Wyche did during his coaching career was to scold drunk off their asses Bungles fans that, "You don't live in Cleveland" public address he made in 1989!
Tom Brady must've signed a TON of autographs for referees during his career to make them rig it so bad for him.
King, you dropped this 👑
It was funny during the Rams game when he got an unsportsmanlike penality for his bitching at the refs.
Wait, are you saying the oldest guy in the league, who is never under any pressure up to 10 seconds, starts his drives at the 40, runs like a girl, and can cry like an f'n baby till the refs do what he wants, and is also the best player ever is suspicious to you?🤣🤣🤣🤣 Tom Baby is a TOTAL FRAUD!!!!
Nah man. Hes not a fraud. It just seems like most the refs are sick of his consistent bitching.
@@sillyrascal3382 Dude......HE'S A PHONY! I'm sorry if that hurts you but a painful truth is better than fake bullshit that's comfortable. The NFL props him up because he's marketable. He's their #1 cash cow.
Before watching this video, I thought the dumbest referees in NFL history were the ones working the infamous 2001 game in Cleveland who made a terrible call that provoked a violent riot by the fans, who pelted the refs with beer bottles, causing the fiasco to be dubbed "Bottlegate".
I thought it would be not calling PI in Rams vs Saints
If it had been Ed Hochuli, would anyone refuse him?
This is a sad incident in an otherwise remarkable NFL officiating career. As an experienced football official, we try to instill in all young officials that they must always be unbiased and avoid anything that would call your neutrality and integrity into question. Seeking autographs or appearing to be buddies with players or coaches while officiating those teams or in their league is unethical.
NBA refs are horrible with joking around and being buddy buddy with players LeBron is buddy buddy with all the refs seems like. He's always laughing cutting up with them and no one can deny he gets away with a lot. Same with tons of others in league.
@@ConwayKitty Don’t bring up NBA Refs. As they don’t even know that the NBA has a rule book let alone what’s actually in it.
Not excusing this referees behavior but this was an old ref at the tail end of his career. The league had exploded in popularity in the mid 90's and these players were larger than life. It was definitely the height of the NFL and I don't think there was really protocol for this sort of thing.
And the guy only earned like $250 for reffing the game, and he probably had to pay for parking,
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In 1995, it could not have been common knowledge what Brett Favre's autograph looked like. Hell, I doubt I could even find it today. Just scribble something on a piece of paper and give it to your grandkid, how would he ever know. *smh*
@@dontrockwobble 100% I agree but You know why He couldn't do that?.....because they were for HIM😏
Big deal,I like football what about the players,some on hi like a kite there lots of shit going on during the game pityful..
2:29 or after the game as well.
I can't speak for officials, but as a reporter for NFL games in the early 1990s, I learned that rule #1 for reporters is don't ask for autographs (not that I would want to, which I wouldn't). You can be banned from NFL games and practices FOREVER if you do.
This applies to working any sort of event, whether sports or concerts. I remember the rules for organizations doing concession stands (as it's generally a fundraiser). Asking for an autograph could get your entire organization banned from the concession stand fundraisers.
Wow. I graduated from Southern Miss in Dec ‘91 and Brett was such a phenomenal athlete. We were next door neighbors for a year or so at an apartment complex. What an arm!!
That's cool as can be!!! Was he a nice person? Seems really outgoing and down to earth.
Yep. Just a regular guy from what I recall. Had a bad car wreck and missed a couple games at the beginning of his senior year.
He came from very humble beginnings. Unfortunately he is no longer humble...
Wow!!.. I did not even know about this story. That’s insane.. Love your videos man. Keep it up!! ✌🏼
I thought the dumbest refs were in the Monday Night game when replacement refs stole a victory away from Green Bay over an egregious endzone call to end the game against Seattle Seahawks
Yes, but that was the phony Replacement ref season where they used Division 1 lower reffs not the newly made NCAAF division or what ever name is of the higher then D1 NCAA division. The dumbest reff actually just happened to be the most out of shape, was in the 2019 or 2018 season that was the first year of the NFL 100 when they had the Packers play the Bears, at Lambeau field, the reff was the Moustache guy who was so out of shape he had to take a time out to recover at one point and I have never seen the young guy who looked younger then me and I was 29 or 30 at the time. He missed the first play of that game and was so out of shape He was not able to see plays having to use replay though use the machine quickly after the faster plays he was not in the area to see the incident happen. The Reffs all wore the first official Ref uniform in NFL history from 1920 when the NFL got more serious about the League. Before this the ref was a local NCAA ref they borrowed for the game and just wore the Ref uniform of the division the ref coached.
Nickerson went to GB in 2002 for 1 season. He was a very good player throughout his career.
His son played for the Bengals for a time as well
Since I see others bringing other officials into the discussion, this could have been about Phil Luckett.
This story is very similar to what happened in Germany a decade later involving soccer referee Robert Hoyzer in which he went into the locker room of Paderborn and got paid $5000 by the club to make sure he gave them favorable calls in their 1st round German Cup match vs Hamburg. Paderborn won that match 2-1 in an upset thanks to Hoyzer calling two very questionable penalty kicks. However unlike this story, it also turns out that Hoyzer was in cahoots with a Croatian gambling syndicate to fix the match and Hoyzer immediately paid them the $5000 so that his gambling debts could be cleared. This turned into a massive scandal that rocked German soccer in 2005 as four other referees along with Hoyzer confessed to taking bribes from the syndicate along with a few clubs along with betting on games they refereed. As a result, Hoyzer & the four other referees were banned for life and were given prison sentences lasting between 2 months-1 & half years. Lastly Hamburg received $2 million in compensation for being unfairly treated and getting knocked out of a lucrative competition.
Didn't know about this.
I only knew about the scandal that rocked Serie A in 06.
This is so not like that. Especially considering that the referee did the exact opposite of giving the Packers favorable calls. He got his autographs and gave them a bunch of penalties...
How do you find these stories because along with the college football ones, these are gold.
Sounds like Favre was just perplexed by what happened and made some playful banter with the ref. The referee never should have asked for autographs.
That's why ethics training always, always states to avoid even the APPEARANCE of impropriety
Most surprising thing in this video was finding out Tampa Bay and Green Bay were in the NFC Central division together
This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made a video about how another long officiating career ended, this of Armen Terzian, after a 1988 game between the Giants and Cowboys.
the guy who got KOed by a beer bottle during the Hail Mary Cowboys-Vikings game?
@@CutterHistorical Yep
If I want to watch that video, can you put a card with the link in the upper right corner?
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This Bucs team was an enigma this season. At the start of this game, they were 6-5. When they would win, they'd barely win with the exception of the first game against Philly. But when they would lose, they would get trounced. Of their 9 losses, this was most of them: 22-6, 25-6, 19-7, 35-13, 31-17, 31-10, 37-10. When they would win, this is their scores: 14-6, 20-13, 19-16, 20-17, 17-16, 13-10. In short, they weren't good. So no matter what, no amount of referee cheating would have mattered. That said, when extracurricular activities break out after a play pretty much 100% of the time the instigator isn't the one who's flagged. It's usually the one who retaliates and considering that when this fight happened flags were thrown from everywhere but the blimp I would doubt Bergman had any influence on the actual call.
Yeah, if you're an official and you mess up that publicly, especially if it looks like it could impact the integrity of a game, you're not going to stay on.
Different sport, but after the Good Friday Massacre, Bruce Hood was essentially forced out as a referee.
(JG9 voice) wait, WHAT!?
@@mkepioneet Read all about it.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Friday_Massacre
@@dentonyoung4314 yep. Officially he retired. Unofficially, it was a mercy killing. Nobody knows what his thought process was, like Ray Handley, he would never speak to anyone about that game.
Well it happened again
8:40 - Fucking tell us already....
What is it about the Bucs that attract the officials attempting to get autographs from the players? #DidntWorkYesterdayThough
How about the part where a referee is promising Brett Favre some "good calls?" How is that not also a problem? It kind of reminds me of Caddyshack, when Dangerfield is saying to Lou 'said referee' Loomis "Keep it fair, keep it fair" as he's handing him money.
I wouldn't take that statement seriously at all, and I doubt that anyone did or should have.
Asking for autographs? Really? Weak. I thought he was feeding inside information to the bookies, or putting money on games and doing biased officiating. That in my eyes is majorly illegal. Not this.
Another game with bad officiating was the Seahawks stealers Superbowl when the officials had to apologize the following season
By favoring one team over another a referee may affect who wins a game but they will definitely affect the final score which can have a major affect on sports gambling. Points shaving.
Yeah that was my first thought when he talked about all the calls going against the Packers, though the fact that the ejection situation instead went against the Bucs made me think something was odd.
10 mins into the video, he finally stumbles into the point of the video. On accident.
I'm surprised 😯😯😯😯😯 Brett Favre didn't get in trouble like Pete Rose. Ref: Brett, could I have at least five autographs. Brett Favre: Yes, I'll give you your five autographs. Hook me up with some favorable calls on the field. Ref: You got it.
I thought this story was going to be about blatant cheating 😒
5 autographs? That sounds like the grandson or someone else was planning on selling them. No person needs 5 unless cashing in is their motive.
Regardless, it is a conflict of interest to take any favor, even non monetary, from someone you are about to referee. It’s not a small infraction. How could this veteran ref have not understood that?
I don't think 5 autographs is all that unusual if someone has multiple children and/or grandchildren and wants one for themselves.
@@brianfieber3962 I suppose it depends on whether there was just one grandson, or a whole group. Since the vid said just grandson, I went with that.
30 years as an NFL official, 4 Superbowls, multiple conference championships, he didn't care.. I probably wouldn't have either
And this would mark the beginning of the "friendly feud" between Sapp and Favre
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@@stevenbauer4799 lol.... can always count on Steven Bauer to respond!!
@@leogetz3570 hahaha and yes you can.
The Sapp and Strahan feud was pretty funny.
@@stevenbauer4799 you always keep it interesting!!!
An actual big deal is John Madden's 'close personal relationship' with Ben "Let's steal Super Bowl XI from the Patriots and give it to the Raiders" Dreith
Another reason to hate the autograph culture.
Hey Jaq I got a good one for you. There was a game were a cowboys center moved the ball on a field goal attempt in Washington and was called for illegal procedure!!! I think it was close to a game winner!!! I think it's the only time it's been called in like 50 yrs!!!
I remember that!
@@jerry9535 hey Jer do you remember any other details??? That's about the only thing I remember!
I thought the best game Favre ever had was the Raider game on Monday night not long after his father died.
It was the very next night
@@teen_laqueefa Oh he was on one hell of a roll wasn't he?
@@teen_laqueefa He was on one hell of a roll wasn't he?
You do such a great job on these videos👍
Who's here after Mike Evans signed autographs for the refs after the game
This was a truly terrible occurrence TWENTY-SEVEN YEARS AGO and my heart still aches over the injustice (sob). Thanks for the rehashing of ancient history.
I'm still incredibly angry that Wayne Gretzky scored the winning goal against my Maple Leafs in the 1993 playoffs. He should have been in the box for high sticking!
Let me make a long stupid ranting video about it!
Maybe it was 92?
He should have waited after he retired to ask for his autograph.
He would not have had access then.
@@alfaDude156 How is that since he would have been recognized as an ex NFL referee and not a regular fan?
Living in Green Bay, all I gotta say is driving anywhere in GB for anytime of the day on game day blows harder then the snowstorms here.
Is this sort of thing often done AFTER games?
I can't speak for NFL officials, but college officials are never anywhere near players and coaches after a game. They have separate locker rooms and are escorted out as a group. I doubt that NFL officials do things any differently.
@@patrickmorgan4006 good point. I'd like to think that autographs and memorabilia are perks of the job, but conflict of interest is a thing, and when millions of dollars are at stake, it's more than just a "game".
Which kinda sucks.
The guy had a good run for over 30 years as a referee. He was most likely going to retire anyways. He just went out in style and he’s still being talked about today.
I thought this was going to be about Jerome Boger.
Tony Veteri.
Is there a rule for officials looking for autographs after the game?
Autographs of stars are worth $ so it could be looked upon as a bribe.
From what I could find, if you do it out of uniform and don’t use your status as an official to gain special treatment, you’re good to go
Moral of the story,don't trust Brett Favre.
Definitely a strange arrangement.
The fact that this video is NOT about Jeff Triplette alone is a black eye on Jerry Bergman. LOL
In all seriousness, as a former head linesman in high school football and a ref for a adult flag football league, I never would have considered doing anything like this!
Yeah, air quotes around "retired" are definitely warranted! Holy shit!
Bret Favre plays for your local flag football league? wow guess the guy really couldn't stay away
I mean trying to get autographs from a high school kid or a 30 year old who plays a game of recess once a week on Wednesday nights isn’t exactly comparable to getting one from one of the greatest qbs in nfl history but okay I guess we’ll let you pretend it is. 😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡
The only saving grace is that we were getting blown out regardless. Had it been a close game, the Bucs would have rioted.
I'm sure that this is still going on and this explains a lot of the bad and no calls that we still see today.
Nah, the NFL is just fixed like WWE.
No, now the games are rigged
bigtime89, Thank you for making this long story short.
You deserve pretty Subs, your content is excellent and you seem like a cool guy. I wish you luck man, keep up the good work
Favre out there doing Favre things
Nickerson was the only player ejected because he was the only one that threw a punch. Any player that throws a punch is pretty much automatically ejected.
At least he was smart enough to do it at the tail-end of his career. He was probably going to retire soon anyway.
Maybe Bergman knew before the game he was going to retire and wanted some autographs for whatever reasons , sell ,or gifts
Really kind of sad that Bergman's career ended over this. The thing is he could have gotten those autographs in an indirect way, through an emissary. Then he could have said discreet thank yous to the players involved. He would have Christmas gifts for his grandson and there would not even be a semblance of impropriety. But when he entered the lockerrooms and made direct contact with the players, he set himself up for the "perfect storm" that ended his career.
All I cna say is JayGator 9 sure knows how to uncover stories most of us do not know about!
I remember watching that game. I didn't know about this little scandal though. GO PACK GO!
I can see and agree it's unprofessional for reff to ask for autographs before a game instead of waiting until after but idk if that made him bias. He made calls for both sides pretty well.
To prevent this again, each team needs someone to aquire autographs after a game to be anonymous as to who it is for. Weather a ref, an apposing coach, an apposing player.
It is sketchy for before the game. After, I'm guessing there may not have been an issue.
Could you find out the pay for reffs over the years. When they went on strike they were making on average 117k a year.
Why are these officials so old? Why not have younger, more athletic and wiser officials?
That was very inappropriate by the official...🚫👎🤦♂️
As lions fan I always wondered why we get bad calls all the time in green bay
Def not the first time he did that...
I feel bad for the grandson. His grandpa was just trying to get him a cool Christmas present, but went about it in really bad way and ended up losing his job. How do you think his grandson felt knowing that when he got those autographs for Christmas?
5 autographs by the same guy is not a Christmas present for one boy. Lol 🤣
This sounds so Tom Bradyesque.
Agree
A 16 minute video for a 3 minute story. This would be a good audition video for dateline or 20/20.
This is teenager drama. He was a highly rated ref for decades and was one of five to do it for 30 years plus. He was just as highly regarded when he retired after this. They usually get their autos for family after the game but he was elderly and didn’t want to have to try to get to them safely after the game. They had to do something about it but no one right he was a poor ref or had thrown games.
Harvey threw a punch... that'll get you ejected EVERY time
Could you imagine if the shield held refs accounatble like this in the modern day?
This guy was essentially fired for what boiled down to an innocuous joke comment and some inappropriate christmas shopping. Refs today will blatantly change the outcomes of major televised games with video evidence to back up allegations of cheating, and be rewarded with more primetime games.
It sounds like he was hired by the patriots
He is definitely an excellent researcher. He should have a degree in the history of sports. I liked those past Bucs' uniforms. I've heard the Packers have the refs in their hands, this leads credence to that argument.
They are Buccaneers, not Bucs.
The "9" In the lower right hand corner of the game film means that this recording came from WAOW Channel 9 in Wausau, WI... Which is an ABC affiliate! Fox took over the NFC package in the '90s (it was CBS in the '80s), but because there was no Fox affiliate in central Wisconsin, WAOW got the feed instead. I know this because I grew up in central Wisconsin in the '90s, so this is how I watched all those Packer games 🙂
If ever using "a long story short" could be utilized. Brutal
Violated “proper procedure” means that the referee made a poor choice which, in hindsight was just that. Don’t make this more than it was.
“You can bet the NFL took swift action” Ummm no I cant ever make the bet
Isn't the referee in question mostly just a ball spotter? I don't think he was the head man, so I'm not sure if he had the authority to eject a player.
I thought you were going to say he'd been caught laying bets on a game he was officiating....
I thought this video would be about the replacement ref who was about to officiate a 2012 Saints-Panthers gamd until the NFL saw his Facebook profile and saw he was a Saints fan.
Definitely gonna do a vid on that at some point. Remember when that happened and how nuts that was
@@OfficialJaguarGator9 yeah everyone remembers the #FailMary game from that lockout but this was arguably worse. The Saints had enough going on with Bountygate, plus Carolina ultimately won that game so imagine the impact it would've had.
Friggin' grandkids...scourge of the universe!
Was Bergman the one who tossed Nickerson? The referee makes that call, so was Bergman responsible for saying who should be ejected? Was that ever revealed?
I don't think we'll ever know for sure how that all went down, but that isn't the point. The point was that from an appearances standpoint alone, between the incident where Bergman was going into the locker rooms asking for autographs (getting one from Favre but not Nickerson), and the highly unusual situation where Nickerson was ejected from a fight he didn't instigate but the instigator was not, it _looked_ potentially very bad to anyone who knew about all this.
There's a basic rule, that someone who's supposed to be an impartial arbiter has to avoid any potentially obvious appearances of impartiality when feasible. And by looking for player autographs before the game, that rule was broken big time.
I miss the ref that yelled "First dowwwwwnnn"!!!
Here, take my jersey. Would you like my jockstrap too?
I bet Roger Goodell looks the other way on this one if he were commissioner.
Not a chance
@@dallasbrubaker6054 Bet any money he would have especially if his boy Tom Brady was one of the subjects involved instead of Brett Favre.
The referee makes the decision to toss someone not a head linesman
Buddy, I love your stuff, but I think you should offer a 3 minute version of each video.
dude...it could have been 1 minute.
What the big about this? Now in NCAA when a small school play a big school the player are in locker room getting photo made
They post show they ask loser coach about game. He said I don't think we could win
I bet that kid feels proud today
Why not just go see them after the game? Hey, can I get some autographs after the game? Would have looked a lot better.
Bergman's ejection of Nickerson despite the latter not being the instigator doesn't pass my smell test. If Bergman doesn't seek those autographs, he might have avoided all that scrutiny. Not a good look given that he was a game official.
As for the game, the Bucs entered with a winning record, but they started 5-2 (five-dash-two as Wyche called it) and collapsed down the stretch, culminating in a 2-7 skid that left the Bucs at seven-dash-nine and costing Wyche his job. The cheapskate known as Hugh Culvherouse hired him and in '95, the Glazer family took over after Culverhouse's death and had no loyalty to Wyche.
Bergman wouldn't have had the authority to eject anyone. This isn't baseball. Only the referee can eject players, not the head linesman and the smell test doesn't play here as with pretty much every incident like this it's the one who retaliates who gets the flag, not the instigator. So when you saw nearly every official throw a flag, he wasn't the only one to see the incident.
He is the one that threw the punch. It's always been this way. if he would have just pushed back then most likely nothing would have happened or a flag would have been thrown. Obviously the officials didn't see the initial push just like the cameras didn't. One thing you won't get away with, especially in today's NFL, is throwing a punch. It is just an instant ejection.
Oh please the last thing they need to do is try to stretch.