I'll explain it since I took the time, Ice Relic does alot of damage which is not balanced atm. Even though based damage is like 200- 300 its power coefficent is (.5) so with that in mind ferocity and percision + any damage modifers you apply roughly around 12k to 40k in total based on the situation.
Idk how you have the balls to play without RF you absolute madlad 👍 If I’m using RF, wouldn’t another relic be a bit better as the cool-down is rather long. I’m still a noob at bendy in PVP and I’m looking to change up my bendy gameplay a bit
I just started playing WB a few weeks back (glass cannon build) and it's hella OP and super fun. I do realize though I'm still very much a beginner, I can jump people and 1 shot them (because WB is OP), but it's still a hit and run playstyle and I want to improve in extended fights. Would love some tips and guidance from you :D Incredible gameplay by the way, I've been using Brawler relic but I need to give Ice relic a try lol.
hit and run is the right way to play it (unless you do 90% running xD), in outnumbers or bigger fights you want to find the easiest target to kill or a high priority target, down the target then chose between cleaving or kiting. I usually snowball when I know I can finish the fights quickly because WB's strength is the ridiculous damage output it has on targets that don't move much. If the fights are more tensed, then kite and let the opponents chose, either they follow you, leave the down which gives you an opportunity to kite/juke with ports or they go for a hand rez aka best opportunity to AoE burst and kill the rest if you can't finish the down then you're kinda back to step 1, find a target > down > kite or cleave tldr: oneshot what you can and stay out of their damage, go back with ports (sw2/sw5/F3) when they're split from your kiting or hand rezing hope that helps
@@rektyu7035 it does for sure, I've been playing somewhat the same way but I'm really bad at utilizing F3 - I just forget it can stun break or forget to use it to kite and juke. Something I definitely have to keep in mind. Also what's your opinion on a second weapon set (aside from sw/sw)? I've been using GS which has good cleave and a leap so it's really beginner friendly. Hammer feels a bit clunkier but I haven't used it much, and LB is very nice as it gives a ranged option but I do miss the GS cleave and leap.
F3 is mostly used offensively, it helps you come back from bad situations and it's very easy to get value from the landing damage and the flames as for weapon sets, it depends on what you're running, for ice relic builds I run GS because ice relic forces you to commit and finish fights quickly or reset, which GS is very good at. otherwise GS2 feels really bad into players that know how to move away from it, GS3 tracking is trash, GS5 needs a rework, this skill is outdated af (as you can see i'm a GS hater) LB has some good match ups and some bad match ups, having a ranged option always feels great, but it can be hard to know when to kite and keep your distance on a class that mostly leap/port forward Hammer needs some practice to get used to, you can do a lot of fun stuff, it's surprisingly good in a lot of 1v1 situation because hammer 3 and 5 are really really strong and hammer 2 only has 6s CD finally i'd recommand mace/shield, you lose a lot of cleave from GS but get a solid CC, good amount of prot uptime, blocks, this weapon set makes you alot tankier but don't underestimate mace 3 damage
@@rektyu7035Yeah that's spot on, GS is nice for jumping people and cutting off zergs' tails but it does feel bad in 1v1. For that I'll look at Hammer or mace/shield, I actually have never played that (new to Guard) but seems like it brings more defensive options without sacrificing damage too much.
Looks like a good reason for some more unhinged FMW gameplay :P BTW the relic / FMW combo works with longbow / mace shield builds right? Or is there some secret sauce with greatsword?
Because as much as my monke brain wants to go full brrr, I still have a feeling that the lack of Renewed Focus should be compensated with some reach or sustain on weapons
greatsword feels better, but you can run whatever you like the most, if you want some kind of replacement for the invu, Deathless Courage is viable (not great)
I used to have the same issue on my alt, and honestly I never really liked the other options for condi cleanses, I'd recommend energy sigil if you're not playing one, or more aggressive sigils
My willbender sensei. Always a pleasure watching you play. I do have a question how do you teleport onto your enemies with buildings and objects in front of you or above you? I always get line of sighted for some reason when I use judgement. I also play on action camera maybe thats why?
Do you have any example ? it doesn't work in certain areas, like walls most of the times will block ports but generally speaking if it won't work for you then it won't work for me either, I don't think action camera changes anything (I'd advise you not to use it tho xD)
I'd say its pretty OP because of the amount of boons it gets for free and high dmg/mobility. You can deal more power dmg on celly WB than most other classes cause its so easy to hit skills
Dont even see you using it that much . I mean legit gameplay dont get me wrong . The times you do use it its nice. This will change everything for hammer guard once new Glacial Heart comes out Currently using it on Chill reaper for Max damage and all the bleed stacks.
Yes so if you have 5 peopel stack onto eachother you can therotically throw 15 ice shard one 1 single individual if they eat all of it. I was hoping this relic would be under the table but now its out of the bag for everyone to know xD
It only works after you use your elite skill, it will launch projectiles to enemies in range (from what I've tested the range is 360). If there are no enemies in range, no projectile will be fired but the relic will still go in CD
I'd always go hydro on GS and rage on sword, rest depends on what you like the most, cleansing or energy for defensive, air or fire for more aggressive setups
Deathless courage might see some use now, it depends on how strong the damage reduction is. The rest of the buffs won't affect WB much, it might enable some new builds but nothing crazy. (I'm excited for the WB port buffs) The new glacial heart trait will probably shake things up a bit, but it also depends on the numbers. I think hammer should get a lot more popular, can't say how good it'll be Sword 3 buff tho, unless the animation is clunky, is going to add even more to the perma push kit that WB has, which I think is one of the reasons people don't like to face WB and isn't healthy for the game. This buff was absolutely not needed for WvW I'm calling it now, the next build in PvP for WB is going to be a bunker/decap build
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I'll explain it since I took the time, Ice Relic does alot of damage which is not balanced atm. Even though based damage is like 200- 300 its power coefficent is (.5) so with that in mind ferocity and percision + any damage modifers you apply roughly around 12k to 40k in total based on the situation.
Simply perfect the way you fit these first fights with the first song, made this video a masterpiece love your videos. Keep it up my man!
A fellow ice relic enjoyer 😂
They really have to fix this.
5:35 best part xD
Only my bro can make me watch a roaming montage in its entirety, truly the goat ❤
It's actually an acronym: relic of the "I can't even"
Lmao
ignore the relic, goat gameplay
That 1 hp though. Crazy.
Absolute monster gameplay.
okay i hate definitely willbenders but the video is insane 🤯
Idk how you have the balls to play without RF you absolute madlad 👍
If I’m using RF, wouldn’t another relic be a bit better as the cool-down is rather long. I’m still a noob at bendy in PVP and I’m looking to change up my bendy gameplay a bit
sorry for the late answer, I recommend brawler relic if you're new to PvP/WvW, also ice relic got nerfed ^^
@@rektyu7035 Thanks, Yea i figured probably Brawlers. I still dont have the balls to drop RF Though cause i'm bad at the game XD
@@Jijiweepee dropping RF usually isn't a good idea xD
@@rektyu7035 the evade on heaven’s palm though 😭
I’ll be sure to try brawlers, thanks
Proof that only the last HP matters
I just started playing WB a few weeks back (glass cannon build) and it's hella OP and super fun. I do realize though I'm still very much a beginner, I can jump people and 1 shot them (because WB is OP), but it's still a hit and run playstyle and I want to improve in extended fights. Would love some tips and guidance from you :D
Incredible gameplay by the way, I've been using Brawler relic but I need to give Ice relic a try lol.
hit and run is the right way to play it (unless you do 90% running xD), in outnumbers or bigger fights you want to find the easiest target to kill or a high priority target, down the target then chose between cleaving or kiting.
I usually snowball when I know I can finish the fights quickly because WB's strength is the ridiculous damage output it has on targets that don't move much.
If the fights are more tensed, then kite and let the opponents chose, either they follow you, leave the down which gives you an opportunity to kite/juke with ports or they go for a hand rez aka best opportunity to AoE burst and kill the rest
if you can't finish the down then you're kinda back to step 1, find a target > down > kite or cleave
tldr: oneshot what you can and stay out of their damage, go back with ports (sw2/sw5/F3) when they're split from your kiting or hand rezing
hope that helps
@@rektyu7035 it does for sure, I've been playing somewhat the same way but I'm really bad at utilizing F3 - I just forget it can stun break or forget to use it to kite and juke. Something I definitely have to keep in mind.
Also what's your opinion on a second weapon set (aside from sw/sw)? I've been using GS which has good cleave and a leap so it's really beginner friendly. Hammer feels a bit clunkier but I haven't used it much, and LB is very nice as it gives a ranged option but I do miss the GS cleave and leap.
F3 is mostly used offensively, it helps you come back from bad situations and it's very easy to get value from the landing damage and the flames
as for weapon sets, it depends on what you're running, for ice relic builds I run GS because ice relic forces you to commit and finish fights quickly or reset, which GS is very good at. otherwise GS2 feels really bad into players that know how to move away from it, GS3 tracking is trash, GS5 needs a rework, this skill is outdated af (as you can see i'm a GS hater)
LB has some good match ups and some bad match ups, having a ranged option always feels great, but it can be hard to know when to kite and keep your distance on a class that mostly leap/port forward
Hammer needs some practice to get used to, you can do a lot of fun stuff, it's surprisingly good in a lot of 1v1 situation because hammer 3 and 5 are really really strong and hammer 2 only has 6s CD
finally i'd recommand mace/shield, you lose a lot of cleave from GS but get a solid CC, good amount of prot uptime, blocks, this weapon set makes you alot tankier but don't underestimate mace 3 damage
@@rektyu7035Yeah that's spot on, GS is nice for jumping people and cutting off zergs' tails but it does feel bad in 1v1. For that I'll look at Hammer or mace/shield, I actually have never played that (new to Guard) but seems like it brings more defensive options without sacrificing damage too much.
Schooling us all on the ways of the willbender good job man.
The end lmaoooo😂
Best as always 💣
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Masterclass
Clean as fck as always willybro 😜
you are a monster
gg mate
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Looks like a good reason for some more unhinged FMW gameplay :P
BTW the relic / FMW combo works with longbow / mace shield builds right? Or is there some secret sauce with greatsword?
Because as much as my monke brain wants to go full brrr, I still have a feeling that the lack of Renewed Focus should be compensated with some reach or sustain on weapons
greatsword feels better, but you can run whatever you like the most, if you want some kind of replacement for the invu, Deathless Courage is viable (not great)
nice videos ! one question tho, new player. if one does not have access to cleansing runes for weapons, what would you suggest to run?
I used to have the same issue on my alt, and honestly I never really liked the other options for condi cleanses, I'd recommend energy sigil if you're not playing one, or more aggressive sigils
I love Willbender, it's the ultimate noob slayer. Fortunately it's not good vs better players. Good balance.
I'd argue it's good everywhere, but it's definitely the best noob slayer
My willbender sensei. Always a pleasure watching you play. I do have a question how do you teleport onto your enemies with buildings and objects in front of you or above you? I always get line of sighted for some reason when I use judgement. I also play on action camera maybe thats why?
Do you have any example ? it doesn't work in certain areas, like walls most of the times will block ports
but generally speaking if it won't work for you then it won't work for me either, I don't think action camera changes anything (I'd advise you not to use it tho xD)
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Le goat
yeah we need more *willbender op plz nerf anet* forum threads 💀
lmao can't wait
I'd say its pretty OP because of the amount of boons it gets for free and high dmg/mobility. You can deal more power dmg on celly WB than most other classes cause its so easy to hit skills
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How does this spec do vs thieves? Generally what's the hardest matchups? I play reaper so my mobility is trash and thieves can just dance around me.
It does pretty bad vs thieves, it's one of the hardest matchup, specter is the only spec that isn't hard countering you on thief
Dont even see you using it that much . I mean legit gameplay dont get me wrong . The times you do use it its nice. This will change everything for hammer guard once new Glacial Heart comes out Currently using it on Chill reaper for Max damage and all the bleed stacks.
1vx god
So it shoots out icicles like gs5? It shoots out projectiles according to how many people there are?
Yup exactly
Yes so if you have 5 peopel stack onto eachother you can therotically throw 15 ice shard one 1 single individual if they eat all of it. I was hoping this relic would be under the table but now its out of the bag for everyone to know xD
im new to the game so i dont know much so correct for me plz this relic work only after u use elite skill ? thats the only condition for it to work ?
It only works after you use your elite skill, it will launch projectiles to enemies in range (from what I've tested the range is 360). If there are no enemies in range, no projectile will be fired but the relic will still go in CD
now you have done it, reported for cheating, imma make a forum post
Ho no pls don't ban my account
Ice relic does 30k? Bro...
It's because the projectile can hit 15 times (5 targets x 3 projectiles) but all on the same person.
think this spec needs some more mobility and dmg and mobility and dmg
About the build, what can I use for status on the rune weapon, etc. I want to focus on willbender but I have some doubts
you can find the builds in the description ;)
If i play glass cannon build ( with GS) wich sigils use in dual sword and gs?
I'd always go hydro on GS and rage on sword, rest depends on what you like the most, cleansing or energy for defensive, air or fire for more aggressive setups
ty sensei^^@@rektyu7035
Whats your opinion on the willbender buffs from the new balance patch preview?
Deathless courage might see some use now, it depends on how strong the damage reduction is. The rest of the buffs won't affect WB much, it might enable some new builds but nothing crazy. (I'm excited for the WB port buffs)
The new glacial heart trait will probably shake things up a bit, but it also depends on the numbers. I think hammer should get a lot more popular, can't say how good it'll be
Sword 3 buff tho, unless the animation is clunky, is going to add even more to the perma push kit that WB has, which I think is one of the reasons people don't like to face WB and isn't healthy for the game. This buff was absolutely not needed for WvW
I'm calling it now, the next build in PvP for WB is going to be a bunker/decap build
Teach me billwender plsss
press F3 and go ham
report le frérot 😂
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damn that was fast
Thats what she said