The police telling him not to call is unnecessarily rude. It’s not as if he was calling 10 times a day. He just wanted to be sure her case hadn’t been shelved and was thinking there may be a connection. Since they have so much to do, it would’ve helped had they reassured him that they noticed the similarities and the case was not forgotten. That’s all.
hold on, this dude raped a little girl who subsequently died from an asthma attack right after the assault, and they only gave him 12 years?? wth is going on??
Why wasn't he charged with murder because that's exactly what it was. I have seen many times people who have been beaten into comas and when they finally died it changes from an assault to murder which is what this should have been
wow what an inspiring officer she is!! her determination is amazing. kept on working on this case on her free time!!? Love and respect to this amazing person. Love you madam and God Bless you.
My dad was the same type of detective. Had ppl he had arrested over to our house often, but he kept them outside. He worked all day & would come home receiving calls on his line (a red phone) & he called out on mom’s line (a white phone) until he went to bed. He was still dedicated to his family. During a standoff one night, he left & walked to a pay phone to call my sister & me to tell us good night. He taught me the value of hard work & love. You don’t judge anyone bc you have not walked a mile in their shoes. My father was my hero & now he is my legend. ❤❤❤💙🖤
So so glad that no one said the word closure because after me and my other son going through the death of his father and his brother there is no closure and I resent the people who continue to say it even on the evening news
I personally don't mind that word. However, I can say that I understand and sympathize with your dislike for a word often associated with condescending and patronizing. I hope you and your son heal a little more each day,
I agree. There really ISN'T closure. There is just perhaps a new and different "normal". But no, closure doesn't really happen, because there is no justified "why?", no true answers. Whether we lose them through a tragedy such as this or an accidental tragedy, there just aren't any answers that truly satisfy. Most people just don't understand that, or that it isn't something we get over, we just have to learn to live with our pain. Rest in peace my beautiful child. I love you always and miss you forever.♥️🙏♥️🙏.
I too wish they would stop saying that. It's hollow and meaningless more meant for everyone else to finish off the chapter and they can feel good about themselves. Not those affected by the horror of losing their loved ones to either accident or worse murder. They will never stop asking, why and what could have changed the outcome. I'm so sorry for your pain and the loss of your husband and son.
So they work out early on that the hair belongs to a black male. She has a black male neighbour. She would open the door to a known neighbour. But after grilling the guy who watched out for her all night they later neglect to question the black neighbour. Defies belief!
Ms Eckert is a real hero, intelligent, hardworking and compassionate. Michael Gorman is a true monster who would have continued to kill. And Marshal Tilman was a pea from the same pod.
Imagine thinking the cops are so crooked, they will nail you for a crime, (that you know you did), so you demand an outside agency do the DNA. If the cops were that crooked, wouldn't they just break the law no matter what you demanded? Its so many extra steps to get the same result.
Pathetic isn't he? Once that DNA test came back it was going to be a match and he knew it so he was going to make getting that final sample as difficult for the officers as he possibly could.
Good job by all, including investigator, Sergeant Barbara Eckert and other new police department officials in that police station. The DNA match did the job of proving neighbor drug and violent neighbor Tillman did it, murdered her brutally. Better late than never. Justice. Good episode.
I'm so shocked the detective didn't look at him as a suspect,because I did.Surely a neighbour is a source of possible friction ? No ? Staggering investigating skills .
I always thought it was my ex who killed her!... buuut I never said anything cuz I was scared. That makes zero sense and is selfish as can be. She allowed her family to suffer all those years for no valid reason whatsoever. Spineless people are kinda useless!
You obviously have never been terrorised by either your father and or partner, the fear you live with goes beyond worrying about a black eye. I was that scared of someone I didn't dare to talk disrespectfully about him for three years after he left. It goes to your core emotionally, physically and psychologically. Thinking of that person can make your hair stand up without them even being physically there. It's not being a coward it's terror.
🤨If you’re innocent and care to find the culprit, you want the police check you and clear the way to focus on the right suspect. Without their thorough work and investigations, criminals would get away.
With all the new technology in DNA that helps Law Enforcement today it’s a blessing to give families some kind of answers. I always wonder if they got away with this terrible violence once against a victim with No life style risk How many others are unknown ?? My prayers to the family :(
Oh my goodness someone who would sexually assault a senior citizen the FBI says that's someone who probably hate's his mother this person should be locked up and never be given parole very sad 😢
How was this a cold case?? Probably because the victim was elderly. It's shocking how many people don't give them the attention or respect they're due.
I wonder, if you find a DNA of a black man, you have kept another man for the night for question, why wouldn’t you as a police officer not question the man that is a perfect match for the murder. I keep seeing cases when the only reason of cases going cold are the reason of first police officers doing less than sufficient for the case. They wasted their time and resources for the man really close to her and family yet excluded the neighbor having a history with her? Sometimes I wonder in whose hands our society’s safety is.
Of course nobody in the neighborhood saw anything they only say something when it happens to someone in their family. After all there's nothing in the world worse than a snitch
This story makes no sene. Why was Tillman never considered a suspect? No explanation. He lived noxt door - someone the victim would have opened the door for. There had to have been infomration on teh street about his drug use, etc. Weird.
Tillman and his wacky hairdo will not get to enjoy freedom outside prison, which is slight comfort for the loss of Ms. Edna. However, it is justice in some small measure.
Wonder where that detective bought her degree. How do you live for 40 something years not knowing that the word ‘suspect’ ends with a ‘t’? lol she kept saying “suspec “
So an old woman on a limited income should pay a higher water bill so that this thief can continue squatting illegally in the house next door to keep from being killed? That's tantamount to extortion.
Two people knew meaning the victim and the perpetrator. But of course Edna couldn't tell them what happened and for obvious reasons her killer was not going to willingly admit anything.
@@LotusStitchandSketch To put it bluntly, being dead, Edna didn't know anything anymore. So while I understand what you mean, I'd still say only one person knew.
The police telling him not to call is unnecessarily rude. It’s not as if he was calling 10 times a day. He just wanted to be sure her case hadn’t been shelved and was thinking there may be a connection. Since they have so much to do, it would’ve helped had they reassured him that they noticed the similarities and the case was not forgotten. That’s all.
Like for real thought the same
Yes. Exactly
hold on, this dude raped a little girl who subsequently died from an asthma attack right after the assault, and they only gave him 12 years?? wth is going on??
Very well said.
Why wasn't he charged with murder because that's exactly what it was. I have seen many times people who have been beaten into comas and when they finally died it changes from an assault to murder which is what this should have been
Look around. This has become our reality.
Drug dealers get more time than that
@@curiousone6129sadly yes
Who kills a nearly 90 yr old. What a coward.
Low-life scum is who. Disgusting.
Who sexually assaults an elderly woman?!
Sick males, who else?
Truly a coward
a cracked out black guy
It’s ultra sad when a senior is murdered by someone young and strong! RIP Edna!😢
Chocolate Chip City Criminals
Sad period 😢
Not just kill, but SA.
Referng to this dear elderly woman as "Miss Edna"...such respect and honour! 👏🏽👏🏽
Agreed!
Brilliant Sgt Eckert. You deserve a medal for your work for Edna and her family.
wow what an inspiring officer she is!! her determination is amazing. kept on working on this case on her free time!!? Love and respect to this amazing person. Love you madam and God Bless you.
we need more detectives like her
My dad was the same type of detective. Had ppl he had arrested over to our house often, but he kept them outside. He worked all day & would come home receiving calls on his line (a red phone) & he called out on mom’s line (a white phone) until he went to bed. He was still dedicated to his family. During a standoff one night, he left & walked to a pay phone to call my sister & me to tell us good night. He taught me the value of hard work & love. You don’t judge anyone bc you have not walked a mile in their shoes. My father was my hero & now he is my legend. ❤❤❤💙🖤
😢 this is so sad. So glad they pursued this case.
SO the guy raped "a juvenile", who died because of it, and they said "no, there's no relation between the rape and the asthmatic shock"?!
Crazy
Our justice system is broken. Seems to cater to criminals
Thank GOD for DNA and Modern Science.
Sgt Eckhart is a BOSS, solved the cold case and 2 more to boot
DMTBKA
How utterly sad both for her, friends and family… 😢🙏
Dispassionate narration, no profanities, good English, a horrific event presented in a clear and respectful way. Thank you.
Old TV show
So so glad that no one said the word closure because after me and my other son going through the death of his father and his brother there is no closure and I resent the people who continue to say it even on the evening news
I personally don't mind that word. However, I can say that I understand and sympathize with your dislike for a word often associated with condescending and patronizing. I hope you and your son heal a little more each day,
I agree. There really ISN'T closure. There is just perhaps a new and different "normal". But no, closure doesn't really happen, because there is no justified "why?", no true answers. Whether we lose them through a tragedy such as this or an accidental tragedy, there just aren't any answers that truly satisfy. Most people just don't understand that, or that it isn't something we get over, we just have to learn to live with our pain. Rest in peace my beautiful child. I love you always and miss you forever.♥️🙏♥️🙏.
I agree. Perhaps conclusion but not closure.
I too wish they would stop saying that. It's hollow and meaningless more meant for everyone else to finish off the chapter and they can feel good about themselves. Not those affected by the horror of losing their loved ones to either accident or worse murder. They will never stop asking, why and what could have changed the outcome. I'm so sorry for your pain and the loss of your husband and son.
So they work out early on that the hair belongs to a black male. She has a black male neighbour. She would open the door to a known neighbour. But after grilling the guy who watched out for her all night they later neglect to question the black neighbour. Defies belief!
Because it's unusual for a suspect to cross racial lines. Sounds racist, but it's true people stick to their own colour and race.
Grandma needed a fence around her place and a big dog.
And who walks and takes care of that BIG dog?
Great detective work! Justice!
Living next door of course she's gonna open the door for him hopeless investigators
Edna sounded like she was a nice lady 😢
Ms Eckert is a real hero, intelligent, hardworking and compassionate.
Michael Gorman is a true monster who would have continued to kill. And Marshal Tilman was a pea from the same pod.
Imagine thinking the cops are so crooked, they will nail you for a crime, (that you know you did), so you demand an outside agency do the DNA. If the cops were that crooked, wouldn't they just break the law no matter what you demanded? Its so many extra steps to get the same result.
Pathetic isn't he? Once that DNA test came back it was going to be a match and he knew it so he was going to make getting that final sample as difficult for the officers as he possibly could.
This is horrific. And to have sexually assualted is beyond reprehensible . May the Comforter be with family and friends. 🙏🏻🕊
The police making her friend sit there in the room for so long torturing him just to see his reaction is disgusting. What pigs.
So sad. God saw this happen and vengeance is His.
Sad case yes, but great detective work!!!!!!
Good job by all, including investigator, Sergeant Barbara Eckert and other new police department officials in that police station. The DNA match did the job of proving neighbor drug and violent neighbor Tillman did it, murdered her brutally. Better late than never. Justice. Good episode.
I'm so shocked the detective didn't look at him as a suspect,because I did.Surely a neighbour is a source of possible friction ? No ?
Staggering investigating skills .
Finally peace for her family
I always thought it was my ex who killed her!... buuut I never said anything cuz I was scared. That makes zero sense and is selfish as can be. She allowed her family to suffer all those years for no valid reason whatsoever. Spineless people are kinda useless!
You obviously have never been terrorised by either your father and or partner, the fear you live with goes beyond worrying about a black eye. I was that scared of someone I didn't dare to talk disrespectfully about him for three years after he left. It goes to your core emotionally, physically and psychologically. Thinking of that person can make your hair stand up without them even being physically there. It's not being a coward it's terror.
The treatment of David Novartis is exactly why people need to lawyer up even f hey are innocent. No, especially if they are innocent.
🤨If you’re innocent and care to find the culprit, you want the police check you and clear the way to focus on the right suspect.
Without their thorough work and investigations, criminals would get away.
Isn't anyone going to notice Marshal Tillman has a very peculiar hairstyle too?
With all the new technology in DNA that helps Law Enforcement today it’s a blessing to give families some kind of answers. I always wonder if they got away with this terrible violence once against a victim with No life style risk How many others are unknown ?? My prayers to the family :(
Bravo detective Bárbara...❤
Great detective work.
I said it was the next door neighbor after they said they had contact within 24 hours but who?
Oh my goodness someone who would sexually assault a senior citizen the FBI says that's someone who probably hate's his mother this person should be locked up and never be given parole very sad 😢
Never trust a grown man who wears pigtails.
Killers was not smart back in the day they always leave evidence behind. Sloppy crimes are not committed professionally.
Bad ass detective
Thank God for technology. DNA
🙏 RIP MS. EDNA 🙏
Justice Is Served
How was this a cold case?? Probably because the victim was elderly. It's shocking how many people don't give them the attention or respect they're due.
I love her sooo much.
What's with the pigtails? 😂
Tillman looks like he could be a double of Idris Elba
Miss. Edna was a well~loved blessing to these folks.
Tillman will get out without serving a “life-sentence”.
Colin Flaherty books
I wonder, if you find a DNA of a black man, you have kept another man for the night for question, why wouldn’t you as a police officer not question the man that is a perfect match for the murder. I keep seeing cases when the only reason of cases going cold are the reason of first police officers doing less than sufficient for the case. They wasted their time and resources for the man really close to her and family yet excluded the neighbor having a history with her? Sometimes I wonder in whose hands our society’s safety is.
Of course nobody in the neighborhood saw anything they only say something when it happens to someone in their family. After all there's nothing in the world worse than a snitch
Ain’t nobody in the word worse than not willing to snitch to save someone’s life
Thank you
At the end spitting the swabs out right there is a simple tampering with evidence felony. Get him on that and continue the investigation
Such a sad story 😢. I felt like it was him from the beginning.
RIP Miss Edna 😔 🕊️🕊️
RIP Edna 💐❤️
Thanks as ALWAYS
A race crime we would say in Sweden.
This story makes no sene. Why was Tillman never considered a suspect? No explanation. He lived noxt door - someone the victim would have opened the door for. There had to have been infomration on teh street about his drug use, etc. Weird.
Tillman and his wacky hairdo will not get to enjoy freedom outside prison, which is slight comfort for the loss of Ms. Edna. However, it is justice in some small measure.
Wonder where that detective bought her degree. How do you live for 40 something years not knowing that the word ‘suspect’ ends with a ‘t’? lol she kept saying “suspec “
POOR WOMEN.
Very sad
He looked like the wild man of Borneo in the old carnivals.
The part I don't get is, once considered he had threatened her, why the investigation didn't go more in depth
a few minutes in and I already know a cracked out black guy did it
How did the family of victim 2 not notice similarities?
Not everyone follows crime news..
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Ok it was the gay white from the start tho everyone sounds black in this story
Her irresponsible children let her live alone 😢
Don’t be stupid she’s a grown person who could make her own decisions
Okrah mentioned at the end? Laughable. She's prolly the villain in this story
Cold case cracked: dna.the end.3 min. Video😂😂😂
If she just gave him a fucking water she would be alive 🙄
So an old woman on a limited income should pay a higher water bill so that this thief can continue squatting illegally in the house next door to keep from being killed? That's tantamount to extortion.
"Two people know what happened"? There was just one perpetrator, and no witnesses. That makes one person who knows what happened.
Two people knew meaning the victim and the perpetrator. But of course Edna couldn't tell them what happened and for obvious reasons her killer was not going to willingly admit anything.
@@LotusStitchandSketch To put it bluntly, being dead, Edna didn't know anything anymore. So while I understand what you mean, I'd still say only one person knew.
@@foo219a@foo219 Grow up.
J g.
Talk shit and see what happens, she obviously wasn’t that tough..
This lady was born in 1898 Respect