No mother has given birth to a child who can ever justify the oppression of ziiinsts on plstn and can criticise the right of plstnians to show resistance. Entire humanity on one side. Isrhell, US govt, and few islamophobes on the other.
Vice News: isis,fsa treated in Israeli hospitals. Vice news: Israeli Soldiers pick nusra fighters from Al Quneitra valley ,near Golan heights. Mehdi hassan interview ex mossad chief on Al jazeera...mossad chief" we helped alqaeda fighters". (Salafist 🤝🏻Zionist), no islam no Judaism.. Pbs :Jihadist Al Jolani..(ex alqaeda,isis,nusra, current hts aided ,funded by CIA) Sharam phir bhi nhi aani.😉 Where are your Salafist Wahabist Mirza plumberi type muslims...only create bloodshed in muslim lands by supporting zio-views physically,mentally,verbally..) Watch : Richard Medhurst Watch :Kervok Almassiyan Syriana Analysis. Both Christians but with Ghairat.
I think Harris does have a point. The only possible solution now is to move on. Learn from Desmond Tutu, Nelson Mandela. Moving on is not easy but the only way to break the vicious cycle of violence. Now is not the time to ask the futile question, Who started the violence? the more important is how to end this violence and the only possible way is to move ahead.
Musharraf said, that even if Kashmir Issue is "resolved", the conflict with India would continue. Even in Israel-Palestine issue, the conflict will continue, no matter what. Why? The real reason is the attitude of the people of certain faith. This particular faith people seem to have issues/conflicts at multiple locations on this planet, with people of all other faiths/backgrounds . Can anybody human/rational, please conclude where the correction needs to happen? Abbas Bhai, do you know the answer? Please donot worry, i know even you have your compulsions. The continued existence of this conflict suits certain influential powers/people. So why resolve? Kashmir issues also needs to exist for the sake of the objectives and relevance of certain power(s) within Pakistan.
Haris is very logical and his points are mostly valid. However, Zionism initially was not a stupid idea! It was a DESPERATE idea by a severely persecuted people for a REFUGE, a homeland where their religion & CULTURE would be protected and where it would survive and thrive!!! Founders of Israel were not religious but secular and it was very logical for them to try to build a refuge in a land where they ALWAYS for generations harbored immense emotional attachment! Therefore, even an atheist or a bona fide Muslim could be a Zionist and sympathize with the Jews! The problem was the Arabs could not prevent uncontrolled immigration in their neighborhoods by the Jews. That is a tragedy for both the people--Jews and Arabs. The Arabs suffered INJUSTICES and the Jews also were victims during the struggle. It is time to move on!!!! It is true that a two state solution is the only viable long term solution. In order for the Israeli people to accept that, they must get iron-clad security guarantees, and destruction or at least severe minimization of religious extremists on both sides. Muslim-Arab governments are in the process of normalization of relations with Israel. But the Muslim masses are infatuated with the Islamists, like the Pakistanis were welcoming the Taliban when they returned to power. Islamic REFORM is the key to peace and stability of the WORLD!!!!!
What Haris confuses with is that Israel is called a colonial settler state. Pakistan India were created not by importing whites from Poland Russia or Ukraine. So the parallel doesn't apply. Yes Israel ppl born on the land should be able to live in Palestine/ Israel. Reversing that doesn't make sense. N those palestenians kicked out should be able to return. What Haris doesnt do is that he hardly critizes the treatment of palestenians. U can see his Twitter wall n is quite obvious
Abe tum muslim haramzado ne Sabhi Hinduo ko bhaga diya pakistan se. Ab israel bhaga raha, tho maja aa raha hame. Harris view is correct here about israel. Who can live peacefully with muslims
No, it is not that simple, they are not all European Jews there are many Jews thrown out of arabs lands, when the Palestinians left Jews were also expelled from arab countries, you are all for Palestinians to return to their land but what about all the Jews living in arab lands, where they were living even before Islam. So your argument would have weight on the day arab start giving equal rights to Jews and the right to return to their lands then you can ask for Palestinians to return to their land.
Lol who's spread lies of covering of women graves in Pakistan to prevent rapes but in reality it belonged to India. The man who's whole personality depends on lies will free us lmao. I know why are you supporting him 😂
A useful dialogue, with valid arguments from both sides. This dispute is highly complex with layers of political and religious perspectives, hence to try and over simplify it by making it one or the other is pointless. Palestinians are in a terrible position, no doubt, but violence/resistance will never achieve them anything. Their only option is to surrender and accept Israel and live under their rule as peaceful obliging citizens, and try to educate their children and compete intellectually, not militarily!
Not "under them" rather accepting them moving on and asking the world for a state in tha part that could be talked over. They should get a free state just like jews got it for they thought they want to.
@@reyeseuropeos9153 Why free state ? Why can't they merge with Israel and demand a United Secular Country. Mai bhi Musalmaan hu but actually Muslims are themselves responsible for Palestine misery. @ 5 Jan 2024 @ 10:20 PM
@@comparativereligiondailynews israel is the one that doesn't want a united state. Palestine has time again and again asked to merge into a single secular state but we know that then the muslims would be a majority and would dominate the politics and vote bank which would probably render it a not so secular state once again which is why jews/israel other people who don't agree with the others don't want a united state
Exactly the Indian stand..The number of deaths is not the metrics to gauge an issue. Had it not been for the Iron dome, many Israelis would have been killed.. While Israel is ready to ceasefire after the hostages are freed, the Hamas stand is the same since earlier and on 7 th Oct till now..
Clearly this dude hasn't even read a single book on Israel-Palestine history nor has he properly looked at the survey he is quoting. Yes only 33% of Palestinians favour a two-state solution, because the remaining 67% favour a one-state solution run by the Palestinians! They do not want to live under an Israeli state rather a Palestinian one! Within that, 55% support an armed resistance for the Palestinians. I would say that the host also is unread and completely unable to assert himself or fact-check the ill-informed guest.
You're tilted towards Israel that's very clear. You probably forgot to mention, Hamas accepts two states solution while Israel doesn't. Which is the core of conflict at the moment and its sole responsibility is on Israel.
Harris present great argument. How to bring peace in this conflict situation ? Thank you! Abbas, conducted this interview so peoples can see both side.
More good points from Harris than I expected i have to admit. But one critical predisposition of Harris I noticed: he shows willingness to judge Israeli policies by what they say and conveniently choses to judge israel by their peoples visible secular sentiments (instead of their vile words against Palestinians) when it is convenient for his narrative. Read that again. Not to mention 5here seems to be an anti-Islamic undertone to his arguements. At least to me one thing is clear. I can see that he's talented in rationalising his arguments by carefully chosing words. Very well masked bias
میں نے بے یقینی کے ساتھ یہ ویڈیو دیکھنا اور سننا شروع کی کہ جانے مجھ ان باتوں سے اتفاق ہو گا کہ نہیں. مگر تمام بات سننے کے بات مجھے حارث سلطان کی باتیں ٹھیک لگیں. بہت خوب.
😂😂Jehadi wants to know about war crimes.. Funny.. Because Hamas is not an army and are dressed as civilians and disguise themselves as civilians.. They had enough time should have come out of Gaza and should have fought like any army. The mindset of Pakistanis cannot change..
Then allow palestine to have an army first. Hamas has to be like that. You will see the whole world crying on this issue like they do for native americans, south africa and black slavery.
@@Islamic_Essence World is with Palestine, but not with terrorists..The thing is your religion does not teach atleast what is right or wrong.Allah has no common sense..Whatever you talk is with a 6 th century mindset..millions of Muslims live in west..that too sucessfully,they will never go back to any Islamic country..World has advanced,anybody can live anywhere. Except middle east where they don't give citizenship..
@@Islamic_Essence Like what.. Rats in holes.. indiscriminately firing. Atleast get them educated first. Instead of building tunnels, build factories, set up trades,build colleges and hospitals as any normal country. 6th century concepts no longer valid. Only countries with education and technology prosper.Kind of God is irrelevant today. Constitution and laws and order are enough..
Muslims never allow others to have thier holy sites. Did they allow it in Ayodhya for Hindus? That too just over a masjid built by a King. They are not allowing Jews. Thankfully they don't have masjid in other religion places like Buddhist, Jain. Otherwise they will fight with them as well.
You can't just come and occupy land like my culture started from Ethiopia now that's mine. Jerusalem should be an international it's not only a jews city. While jews living a better life with Arabs than they had in the West. Today israel may have a right to exist but that doesn't mean they have a right to oppress. If they want their rights they have to accept others rights first.
Harris Bhai is a great rational and free thinker. I hold his views in high regards. He is a bold social and religious analyst. Abbas Haider is a very sweet and intelligent interviewer. Keep it up such types of enlightening talks. Thank you.
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Bro,Can u please give me a short summary of this video. What did abbas say or with which side he stands. Actually I'm travelling in a train and my network isn't working, I can't watch the video properly
Initially utna hi liya tha, fir attack kiya Israel par, tab Israel ne aur area le liya, then fir attack fir aur land le liya This is how they got majority land
Shut the f up. Respect every human. That's why I call myself Humanist Muslim. Religious belief is a personal matter. Haris Sultan wants to be non Muslim. Let him be. I listen his videos because he exposes hypocrisy of Radical Muslims like you.
18:00 'Also the political solution he is talking about like Nelson Mandela, Israel didn't support it, the PLO and PNA were closer to it, instead Israel funded Hamas who didn't believe in a political solution in the first place'
Yes, let's entertain the conspiracy theory that Israel funds Hamas. Essentially, are you suggesting that Hamas is Israel? If so, why do the majority of Muslims around the world support Hamas?
@umayr2935 yes, israel 🇮🇱 koi doodh se thori dhula he ..hammas ko israel ne aik strategic benefit k liye use kia jis tarah America 🇺🇸 ne osama bin laden ko pakistan 🇵🇰 ne taliban ko aur India 🇮🇳 ne sikhon k bhindrawale ko ... likin output khatarnak hi nikalti he
Zulm kia saudi 🇸🇦 ne yemen 🇾🇪 me nai kia ? Kitne bache maare gye ? Kia pakistan 🇵🇰 ne bangalion k saath 1971 me aur even k Palestinians k saath operation Black September me nai kia ? Kia china 🇨🇳 ne uighur Muslims k saath ? Turkey 🇹🇷 ne kurd Muslims k saath ? Azerbaijan sur Armenia ki jang ? Tibet pe china 🇨🇳 ka qabza ? Kabhi ap logon ne in pe baat ki? Kabhi ap k molvion ne masjid me in pe baat ki? Kabhi islamiat me ya pakistan studies me kabhi prha ?
@@umroyaar 75 سال سے فلسطینی بدترین مظالم کا شکار ہیں ۔ انکی 80% زمین غاصب یہودیوں نے قبضہ کرلی ۔ ایسا ظلم کہاں ہورہا ہے دنیا میں ؟؟ دیگر ممالک میں جزئ مظالم کی بنیاد پر اسرائیل کے مظالم کو درست کیسے قرار دیاجاسکتا ہے ؟؟
Two flags were raised from the beginning One white and the other black It was then when Qabeel martyred Habeel When Moses confronted Pharao When Hussain confronted Yazeed And it will go to the last days Israel will never accept two state solution.Natan Yahoo appeared in UN holding the flag of Greater Israel. Yes this war will go untill persons like Haris(who talks without a logic) is erased from the surface of the earth. All religions believe that a saviour shall come.
Though I am a strong supporter of Palestinians,because of oppression they are facing at the hands of Israel is. But I too agree,two state solution is a good solution to be resolved.
Even Israel current prime minister don’t accept two state solution. Jews and Muslim lived together in Spain from hundreds years. But it is land of Palestinian.
@@exmuslimsahil1 jesus seedha hai wow. Same hindus would complaint about the rice bags. Also I would like you to talk about jesus from the old testament
Mera logic ye hai ki mujhe as a hindu or atheist will be given rights in Israel not Palestine which is why I will have to support Israel not matter what
Harris is saying that Palestine will find politicial solutions not by war but what he said when isreal caputer many Palestine who simple protest for their home without any weapon is this your political solutions so called educated people
@@Dan-vs9tuyahi situation gujrat may thi jaise hamas ne pahle hamla karke Israeli mare....usi tarah gujrat k mullo 59 hinduo.. jinme jyadatar bacche budhe or mahilaye thi ..ko train k dibbe me petrol dalke jinda jala diya ...phir hinduo ne jawab diya mullo ko.....socho yahi harkat ager pakistan me kisi area k hindu kar dete to tum sare mulle milke sabko mar dalte ...dange kahi bhi ho galat he lekin apni gireban me bhi jhakana chahiye
Haris is forgeetting that they had nelson mandela type people like Yasir Arafat who walked towards a 2 . state solution . but the terms of those pacts were so anti palestine that arafat couldnt accept it . same is the case with current administration of west bank where settlers can incite violence whenever they want . Israel is not being an honest actor here
Yasir Arafat was FAR from being Nelson Mandela. He never accepted the two-state solution. In the 90s, nearly 70% of the Israelis were in favour of a two-state solution. The West Bank settlers are only 2% of the West Bank and they CAN be expelled once there is a will to work out a solution.
Imagine saying Arafat was Mandela. This just shows that you basically don't know Arafat but you have this notion that just because he was more softer than the Hamas so he was the Mandela. He was never in the favour of Israel's right to exist. He always said that Palestine and Israel's should be one country
No, yaser arafat has accepted 2 state solutions in Oslo accord. Therefore, Palestine has observer status in United Nations like Vatican City ... therefore, israel 🇮🇱 has allowed Palestine as a free state on some extent having its president, Mehmood Abbas, and embassies in Muslims countries like the Palestine embassy in Islamabad. And accepting 2 state as solution was also difficult for israel too as yitzghak Rabin the Israeli prime minister (who signed Oslo accord with yaser arafat ) was killed by a Jewish religious extremist.
@@umroyaar oslo accords wasn't a two state agreement. It just made Plo, the organisation give recognisation to israel and vice versa and broadened the bilateral talks toward peace and possible two state solution and creation of PNA however then Rabin was killed as Arafat backed up and officially said there shouldn't be an israel but just Palestine and israel should be part of it. Oslo accords didn't have an official two state solution and none officials ever signed one.
@@umroyaar yeah that Palestinian state in which every day settlers harass and threaten the Palestinians, and in which Natenyahu's ministers constantly talk about creating settlements, or the one in which Israeli army regularly goes and destroys the civilian infrastructure.. come on ! There is no Palestinian state. Its a joke
I'm happy to attend your show and debate him. I'm a lawyer, and he lacks understanding about genocide, ethnic cleansing, and international law. He calls himself an atheist but seems to have anti-Islamic views. Has he ever been to Palestine or Israel? Does he know about Israel government policies? Palestinian’s likely have a broader mindset than him. He seems to see all Muslims as extremists and doesn't understand their perspective. He repeatedly emphasizes the need for a two-state solution, but he lacks correct facts on current affairs and war. I'm disappointed that you gave him a platform to spread unverified knowledge without citing sources. I'm sorry, but I'm unsubscribing. Also, most of my atheist friend agree that his mindset is anti-Islamic rather than atheist. Perhaps he needs education on being a true atheist because he seems extremely confused
Dear advocate Nothing succeeds than success Jew have right to live in Israel they were arabic Jew under English rule they have right to live in theirs own cultural immotional land associated with culture historical spiritual connection Islam dnt give them freedom dignity and participation under theirs rule They lived in getto all over world including Muslim . Secondly Palestine is not only Israel It is all area. Including Israel jorden Syria lebnon Why they fighting for Israel occupied 1947uno given judgement Why they refused to accept No doubt Israel have right to exist protect and exert theirs law . Phelstine best solution now is accept isreal And adopt two state formulas as plo Mahmud faction following Violence is not solution Consequences are before you uAE Saudi supporting isreal Only Iran supporting Hamas hazbulla .. As defeating Guerilla . Adding new world order for globalist Conflict is theirs food to servive Islam cannot win against satanic verses political fake fighting Islam ideology Better to accept isreal theirs existence and collaborate unlike plo for political solution than wiping out Jews from Israel More over Pakistani have not right to support isreal They already got Hindu land as Islamic republic Given by Hindu as peace solution .because Muslim dnt wantto live with under Hindu . Similiar argument with Jews
Paarsi are living in India but they are native from Iran...why there is no parsi family in Iran...because they leave that place because they didn't want to fight with shias and they were oppressed...and now it became normal...so why Palestinians leave that place and settle in muslim countries....if there are muslim majority country christian majority can exist...why there is one jew state is a pain of world but not 55 muslim states..
USA 🇺🇸 Netanyaho ko prize nai de ga kyun k USA 🇺🇸 ne yahya khan ko bangalion k saath zulm krne pe bhi koi Nobel prize nai diya tha ..wese noble prize America 🇺🇸 nai deta bl k Norway 🇳🇴 deta he
two state solution only on the condition that the palestinain refugees, who were evicted from their houses in 1948, should be made to return to their houses.
Now that Abbas Haider is involved in an engaging conversation that he is speaking in a more natural manner using English words occasionally as normally a lot of Pakistanis do. Even though I appreciate his efforts in trying to avoid pink Urdu, I think, in doing do his speech comes off clunky and unnatural. I have also seen his use incorrect words at times due to lack of understanding the meaning or nuances of those words.
This issue is so critical that when we hear Harris we think that this is truth but when we hear Tha Pakistan Experience & Galib Kamal we feel that they are true..... Really difficult 😬😬😬
Please read a book Gaza An Inquest into its martyrdom by Norman Finkelstein and On Palestine by Noam Chomsky-The Real Intellectuals It will answer the rubbish haris has spoken for hours
Before Christians and during Christism, we recognise Jews, but not now days. Yahudi nahi hote to Christian bhi nahi hote.. all that comes before Islam... Now days Islam against Yahudies instead of Christians
Harris is so hypocritical when did israel backed by US ever have anything to Palestinians without them fighting for it. Everytime when they fought they got something in return. Why did the oslo accords took place. When did israel ever have anything peacefully to Palestinianes in gaza or west bank. Give me some examples.
@@suhelmallick that mean you don’t have any knowledge. West bank was also occupying and people also being killed. If you want to give your land to zionist, you can give. Why us?
It is a religious war - Faisal Warraich.
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No mother has given birth to a child who can ever justify the oppression of ziiinsts on plstn and can criticise the right of plstnians to show resistance.
Entire humanity on one side.
Isrhell, US govt, and few islamophobes on the other.
Vice News: isis,fsa treated in Israeli hospitals.
Vice news: Israeli Soldiers pick nusra fighters from Al Quneitra valley ,near Golan heights.
Mehdi hassan interview ex mossad chief on Al jazeera...mossad chief" we helped alqaeda fighters".
(Salafist 🤝🏻Zionist), no islam no Judaism..
Pbs :Jihadist Al Jolani..(ex alqaeda,isis,nusra, current hts aided ,funded by CIA)
Sharam phir bhi nhi aani.😉
Where are your Salafist Wahabist Mirza plumberi type muslims...only create bloodshed in muslim lands by supporting zio-views physically,mentally,verbally..)
Watch : Richard Medhurst
Watch :Kervok Almassiyan Syriana Analysis. Both Christians but with Ghairat.
I think Harris does have a point. The only possible solution now is to move on. Learn from Desmond Tutu, Nelson Mandela. Moving on is not easy but the only way to break the vicious cycle of violence. Now is not the time to ask the futile question, Who started the violence? the more important is how to end this violence and the only possible way is to move ahead.
They were also terrorists according to the world before success.
Harris sultan the best Love from Christian community and merry Christmas Harris bhai.
Harris said a beautiful point ❤❤❤ If u want peace then it is never possible with 100% justice ❤❤❤
That makes no sense
Musharraf said, that even if Kashmir Issue is "resolved", the conflict with India would continue. Even in Israel-Palestine issue, the conflict will continue, no matter what. Why? The real reason is the attitude of the people of certain faith. This particular faith people seem to have issues/conflicts at multiple locations on this planet, with people of all other faiths/backgrounds . Can anybody human/rational, please conclude where the correction needs to happen? Abbas Bhai, do you know the answer? Please donot worry, i know even you have your compulsions. The continued existence of this conflict suits certain influential powers/people. So why resolve? Kashmir issues also needs to exist for the sake of the objectives and relevance of certain power(s) within Pakistan.
That is a secondary issue. There are disputes even within most muslim countries doesn't mean they should be denied their right to live
Look who is pointing finger,, 😂😂
@@kashurculture4632 whoever pointing has a substantial critique
@@kashurculture4632
Kashmir is India and Palestine should merge with Israel and adopt Secular Constitution.
@ 10:18 PM @ 5 Jan 2024
go away streetshitter
Haris is very logical and his points are mostly valid. However, Zionism initially was not a stupid idea! It was a DESPERATE idea by a severely persecuted people for a REFUGE, a homeland where their religion & CULTURE would be protected and where it would survive and thrive!!! Founders of Israel were not religious but secular and it was very logical for them to try to build a refuge in a land where they ALWAYS for generations harbored immense emotional attachment! Therefore, even an atheist or a bona fide Muslim could be a Zionist and sympathize with the Jews!
The problem was the Arabs could not prevent uncontrolled immigration in their neighborhoods by the Jews.
That is a tragedy for both the people--Jews and Arabs.
The Arabs suffered INJUSTICES and the Jews also were victims during the struggle.
It is time to move on!!!!
It is true that a two state solution is the only viable long term solution.
In order for the Israeli people to accept that, they must get iron-clad security guarantees, and destruction or at least severe minimization of religious extremists on both sides.
Muslim-Arab governments are in the process of normalization of relations with Israel. But the Muslim masses are infatuated with the Islamists, like the Pakistanis were welcoming the Taliban when they returned to power. Islamic REFORM is the key to peace and stability of the WORLD!!!!!
Exactly
The thing is Islam can't be reformed, is it Haram
Harris deserves accolades for clarity of arguments. And thanks to Abbas for being unbiased
What Haris confuses with is that Israel is called a colonial settler state. Pakistan India were created not by importing whites from Poland Russia or Ukraine. So the parallel doesn't apply. Yes Israel ppl born on the land should be able to live in Palestine/ Israel. Reversing that doesn't make sense. N those palestenians kicked out should be able to return. What Haris doesnt do is that he hardly critizes the treatment of palestenians. U can see his Twitter wall n is quite obvious
Abe tum muslim haramzado ne Sabhi Hinduo ko bhaga diya pakistan se. Ab israel bhaga raha, tho maja aa raha hame. Harris view is correct here about israel.
Who can live peacefully with muslims
So u mean to say nobody was killed in india pakistan partition?
50-60% of Israeli Jews ARE Mizrahi Jews i.e. Arab Jews expelled from other Arab states.
No, it is not that simple, they are not all European Jews there are many Jews thrown out of arabs lands, when the Palestinians left Jews were also expelled from arab countries, you are all for Palestinians to return to their land but what about all the Jews living in arab lands, where they were living even before Islam. So your argument would have weight on the day arab start giving equal rights to Jews and the right to return to their lands then you can ask for Palestinians to return to their land.
Pakistan is colonial state where Hindus were thrown out due to hate by islam
Harris speaks truth
You should listen to an expert on the issue rather than an anti islamist.
@@Islamic_Essence😂 is channel ke sabhi followers atheist hain aur ismlamophobic kya hi expect kar sakte hain
Mohd Hijab is Egyptian born. And Egypt was the first country to accept Israel as a state, merely to get their land back lol
Both well balanced personalities offering good conversation
salute Harris sir, I am Hindu of India and I am fan of Harris sir. He is one of those who will free Pakistan from their mean thinking.
Lol who's spread lies of covering of women graves in Pakistan to prevent rapes but in reality it belonged to India. The man who's whole personality depends on lies will free us lmao. I know why are you supporting him 😂
Atheist ho?
Who will free you from Hindu nationalism though….
Atheist ho
Gobar bakht thinking se aap ko kon azaad kryega
A useful dialogue, with valid arguments from both sides.
This dispute is highly complex with layers of political and religious perspectives, hence to try and over simplify it by making it one or the other is pointless.
Palestinians are in a terrible position, no doubt, but violence/resistance will never achieve them anything. Their only option is to surrender and accept Israel and live under their rule as peaceful obliging citizens, and try to educate their children and compete intellectually, not militarily!
Not "under them" rather accepting them moving on and asking the world for a state in tha part that could be talked over. They should get a free state just like jews got it for they thought they want to.
@@reyeseuropeos9153
Why free state ?
Why can't they merge with Israel and demand a United Secular Country. Mai bhi Musalmaan hu but actually Muslims are themselves responsible for Palestine misery.
@ 5 Jan 2024 @ 10:20 PM
@@comparativereligiondailynews israel is the one that doesn't want a united state. Palestine has time again and again asked to merge into a single secular state but we know that then the muslims would be a majority and would dominate the politics and vote bank which would probably render it a not so secular state once again which is why jews/israel other people who don't agree with the others don't want a united state
Exactly the Indian stand..The number of deaths is not the metrics to gauge an issue. Had it not been for the Iron dome, many Israelis would have been killed.. While Israel is ready to ceasefire after the hostages are freed, the Hamas stand is the same since earlier and on 7 th Oct till now..
No it is not the case..
@@Enigma_Aadil
Then what.. We are not idiots. What is the slogan river to the sea then..
Clearly this dude hasn't even read a single book on Israel-Palestine history nor has he properly looked at the survey he is quoting. Yes only 33% of Palestinians favour a two-state solution, because the remaining 67% favour a one-state solution run by the Palestinians! They do not want to live under an Israeli state rather a Palestinian one! Within that, 55% support an armed resistance for the Palestinians. I would say that the host also is unread and completely unable to assert himself or fact-check the ill-informed guest.
Okay I've read everything i still accept what Guest is saying as a refree, what's your argument now?
You're tilted towards Israel that's very clear.
You probably forgot to mention, Hamas accepts two states solution while Israel doesn't. Which is the core of conflict at the moment and its sole responsibility is on Israel.
Harris present great argument. How to bring peace in this conflict situation ?
Thank you! Abbas, conducted this interview so peoples can see both side.
More good points from Harris than I expected i have to admit. But one critical predisposition of Harris I noticed: he shows willingness to judge Israeli policies by what they say and conveniently choses to judge israel by their peoples visible secular sentiments (instead of their vile words against Palestinians) when it is convenient for his narrative. Read that again. Not to mention 5here seems to be an anti-Islamic undertone to his arguements. At least to me one thing is clear. I can see that he's talented in rationalising his arguments by carefully chosing words. Very well masked bias
Both should recognize each other
میں نے بے یقینی کے ساتھ یہ ویڈیو دیکھنا اور سننا شروع کی کہ جانے مجھ ان باتوں سے اتفاق ہو گا کہ نہیں. مگر تمام بات سننے کے بات مجھے حارث سلطان کی باتیں ٹھیک لگیں. بہت خوب.
Harris got good points
😂😂Jehadi wants to know about war crimes.. Funny.. Because Hamas is not an army and are dressed as civilians and disguise themselves as civilians.. They had enough time should have come out of Gaza and should have fought like any army. The mindset of Pakistanis cannot change..
Then allow palestine to have an army first. Hamas has to be like that. You will see the whole world crying on this issue like they do for native americans, south africa and black slavery.
@@Islamic_Essence
World is with Palestine, but not with terrorists..The thing is your religion does not teach atleast what is right or wrong.Allah has no common sense..Whatever you talk is with a 6 th century mindset..millions of Muslims live in west..that too sucessfully,they will never go back to any Islamic country..World has advanced,anybody can live anywhere. Except middle east where they don't give citizenship..
@@Islamic_Essence
Like what.. Rats in holes.. indiscriminately firing. Atleast get them educated first. Instead of building tunnels, build factories, set up trades,build colleges and hospitals as any normal country. 6th century concepts no longer valid. Only countries with education and technology prosper.Kind of God is irrelevant today. Constitution and laws and order are enough..
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Harris mossad agent hay😅 .
35:05 If all other religions can exist and have their holy places then why not Jerusalem for Jews??😱 35:05
Muslims never allow others to have thier holy sites. Did they allow it in Ayodhya for Hindus? That too just over a masjid built by a King. They are not allowing Jews. Thankfully they don't have masjid in other religion places like Buddhist, Jain. Otherwise they will fight with them as well.
You can't just come and occupy land like my culture started from Ethiopia now that's mine. Jerusalem should be an international it's not only a jews city. While jews living a better life with Arabs than they had in the West. Today israel may have a right to exist but that doesn't mean they have a right to oppress. If they want their rights they have to accept others rights first.
Harris Bhai is a great rational and free thinker. I hold his views in high regards. He is a bold social and religious analyst. Abbas Haider is a very sweet and intelligent interviewer. Keep it up such types of enlightening talks. Thank you.
People who made Pakistan are local people. Jinnah, Liaquat etc are not from Europe. But zionists were migrated from Europe. Poor logic by Haris.
It used to be once Jews land before roman empire expelled them from there homeland
@@nikhilhembrom8952 can they prove it LOL
Haris has strong arguments..👍
Sir. Harris sultan 😎 ji 👍👍👍👍
Aapki. Baate sunna 👂👂🎧🎧. Every time. New. Knowledge. Deta. Hai 🤗🤗
(. Aur. Aapka. Argument. Every time. Right 👍👍 hi. Hota. Hai 🤗🤗
Mai. Aapko. Thousand times. Salute 👋👋👋👋👋👋. Karta hu ji 👍🤗🤗
Aur. Aapka. Baate. Karne. Me. Jo. (. सच्च्चाई। ). Hoti. Hai
Woh. Aapke. (. Face. ). Par. Aati. Hai 🤗👋👋
I hopefully 🤞 ki. Aap. Aise. Hi. Chalte. Rahege ji 👍👍👍👍👍👍
What Harris Sultan public phone contact. I have some questions for him?
I have to commend abbas for showing how to disagree with utmost repsect and manners. I pray this quality becomes common in Pakistan
Nelson Mandela said himself if all doors towards peace are closed and there's no progress then choose the way of violence to move forward
I'm very new to listen to you guys, haris clear about his direction, but my question to Abbas ,which mindset you have?
Bro,Can u please give me a short summary of this video. What did abbas say or with which side he stands. Actually I'm travelling in a train and my network isn't working, I can't watch the video properly
Haris has strong point👍
Yar Abbas tm Islam ky baray bakwas sun kaisay layty ho Zara bhi sharam nhi ati
20% Zamin Agar Jews ne kharidi ha
"i dont know kharidi ha Ya nhi"
agar Kharidi hai To uspe mulk bana le
but 80% Zamin ki Azadi Tak "Jihad" hoga
Initially utna hi liya tha, fir attack kiya Israel par, tab Israel ne aur area le liya, then fir attack fir aur land le liya
This is how they got majority land
Peace
True speaking harris
Excellent job Harris Sultan 👍👍👍
Progressive discussion ❤
Pakistanis never think that deep Harris bhai..😂 11:50
Harish love you ❤
Why so much respect for a murtad. Some people just doesn't deserve respect. I think even if someone is a journalist he should have his red lines.
Shut the f up.
Respect every human. That's why I call myself Humanist Muslim.
Religious belief is a personal matter.
Haris Sultan wants to be non Muslim. Let him be.
I listen his videos because he exposes hypocrisy of Radical Muslims like you.
This is the reason why people like you are getting expelled from Europe
18:00 'Also the political solution he is talking about like Nelson Mandela, Israel didn't support it, the PLO and PNA were closer to it, instead Israel funded Hamas who didn't believe in a political solution in the first place'
Yes, let's entertain the conspiracy theory that Israel funds Hamas. Essentially, are you suggesting that Hamas is Israel? If so, why do the majority of Muslims around the world support Hamas?
But now the situation is different ... at that time, israel 🇮🇱 supported hammas to crush plo s political power inside Palestine 🇵🇸
@@umroyaar 'So how is it the Palestinian people's fault then? If you accepted that it was Israel who crushed the PLO, so its their fault'
@umayr2935 yes, israel 🇮🇱 koi doodh se thori dhula he ..hammas ko israel ne aik strategic benefit k liye use kia jis tarah America 🇺🇸 ne osama bin laden ko pakistan 🇵🇰 ne taliban ko aur India 🇮🇳 ne sikhon k bhindrawale ko ... likin output khatarnak hi nikalti he
"یہودیوں کو زندہ رہنے کا حق ہے" اسکا منکر کون ہے ؟؟ ظلم قتل و غارت غصب کا حق کس نے دے دیا
Collateral damage me civilians bhi mrte hen unfortunately
Zulm kia saudi 🇸🇦 ne yemen 🇾🇪 me nai kia ?
Kitne bache maare gye ?
Kia pakistan 🇵🇰 ne bangalion k saath 1971 me aur even k Palestinians k saath operation Black September me nai kia ?
Kia china 🇨🇳 ne uighur Muslims k saath ? Turkey 🇹🇷 ne kurd Muslims k saath ?
Azerbaijan sur Armenia ki jang ? Tibet pe china 🇨🇳 ka qabza ? Kabhi ap logon ne in pe baat ki? Kabhi ap k molvion ne masjid me in pe baat ki? Kabhi islamiat me ya pakistan studies me kabhi prha ?
@@umroyaar
75 سال سے فلسطینی بدترین مظالم کا شکار ہیں ۔ انکی 80% زمین غاصب یہودیوں نے قبضہ کرلی ۔ ایسا ظلم کہاں ہورہا ہے دنیا میں ؟؟
دیگر ممالک میں جزئ مظالم کی بنیاد پر اسرائیل کے مظالم کو درست کیسے قرار دیاجاسکتا ہے ؟؟
Except for Religion, Harris Sultans Political Views are biased and naive.
Tell us why you think so. Thodhi si zehmat kare
yeah sure
Two flags were raised from the beginning
One white and the other black
It was then when Qabeel martyred Habeel
When Moses confronted Pharao
When Hussain confronted Yazeed And it will go to the last days
Israel will never accept two state solution.Natan Yahoo appeared in UN holding the flag of Greater Israel.
Yes this war will go untill persons like Haris(who talks without a logic) is erased from the surface of the earth.
All religions believe that a saviour shall come.
Abbas Haider you are very nice and talented person.
Good discussion
As long as the book exist, there can't be peace anywhere.
Best of harris bhai❤❤ very informative❤❤
He has a valid point, if you are calling yourself martial race then don’t cry. Hypocrisy
Though I am a strong supporter of Palestinians,because of oppression they are facing at the hands of Israel is.
But I too agree,two state solution is a good solution to be resolved.
Even Israel current prime minister don’t accept two state solution. Jews and Muslim lived together in Spain from hundreds years. But it is land of Palestinian.
Interesting discussion, Harris.
Abbas Bhai its amazing. Allah taala aap ka effort kamyaab kare.
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@@exmuslimsahil1 jesus seedha hai wow. Same hindus would complaint about the rice bags. Also I would like you to talk about jesus from the old testament
@@exmuslimsahil1ur first comment 😂😂
@@exmuslimsahil1 okay and Buddhists are better than womanisers like krishna and rice bags? So
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Mera logic ye hai ki mujhe as a hindu or atheist will be given rights in Israel not Palestine which is why I will have to support Israel not matter what
Great talk show and great questions and answers and great explained sir Haris ..😊
Harris and Abbas both are genuine right minded people , these people bring all facts on table
Harris is saying that Palestine will find politicial solutions not by war but what he said when isreal caputer many Palestine who simple protest for their home without any weapon is this your political solutions so called educated people
Harries absolutely right
It is impossible that a person who changed his religion from Islam to Atheist can make good Analysis.
Offcourse but Abbas thinks differently
You are more polished lately. Keep it up. Good job.
जो मेरा है वो मेरा है और जो तू तेरा समझ रहा है वो भी मेराही है --अब्दुल
Salute to Mr Harris! A phenomenal talk. Truth always hurts and is insensitive.
Yes like when Modi committed ethnic cleansing against Muslims in gujrat. I know you won’t like hearing that, but it’s true🤷🏽.
@@Dan-vs9tu No i like hearing that, what do u have to say about that now 🤣🤣
Says an indian 😂
@@PHALANGE1931 that your a genocidal maniac 🤷🏽
@@Dan-vs9tuyahi situation gujrat may thi jaise hamas ne pahle hamla karke Israeli mare....usi tarah gujrat k mullo 59 hinduo.. jinme jyadatar bacche budhe or mahilaye thi ..ko train k dibbe me petrol dalke jinda jala diya ...phir hinduo ne jawab diya mullo ko.....socho yahi harkat ager pakistan me kisi area k hindu kar dete to tum sare mulle milke sabko mar dalte ...dange kahi bhi ho galat he lekin apni gireban me bhi jhakana chahiye
Haris is right 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Haris probably don’t know 3 left wing (dfpl, lfpl, abu ali Mustafa brigade) also fighting for their Palestinian land.
Great
Haris is forgeetting that they had nelson mandela type people like Yasir Arafat who walked towards a 2 . state solution . but the terms of those pacts were so anti palestine that arafat couldnt accept it . same is the case with current administration of west bank where settlers can incite violence whenever they want . Israel is not being an honest actor here
Yasir Arafat was FAR from being Nelson Mandela. He never accepted the two-state solution. In the 90s, nearly 70% of the Israelis were in favour of a two-state solution. The West Bank settlers are only 2% of the West Bank and they CAN be expelled once there is a will to work out a solution.
Imagine saying Arafat was Mandela. This just shows that you basically don't know Arafat but you have this notion that just because he was more softer than the Hamas so he was the Mandela. He was never in the favour of Israel's right to exist. He always said that Palestine and Israel's should be one country
No, yaser arafat has accepted 2 state solutions in Oslo accord. Therefore, Palestine has observer status in United Nations like Vatican City ... therefore, israel 🇮🇱 has allowed Palestine as a free state on some extent having its president, Mehmood Abbas, and embassies in Muslims countries like the Palestine embassy in Islamabad. And accepting 2 state as solution was also difficult for israel too as yitzghak Rabin the Israeli prime minister (who signed Oslo accord with yaser arafat ) was killed by a Jewish religious extremist.
@@umroyaar oslo accords wasn't a two state agreement. It just made Plo, the organisation give recognisation to israel and vice versa and broadened the bilateral talks toward peace and possible two state solution and creation of PNA however then Rabin was killed as Arafat backed up and officially said there shouldn't be an israel but just Palestine and israel should be part of it. Oslo accords didn't have an official two state solution and none officials ever signed one.
@@umroyaar yeah that Palestinian state in which every day settlers harass and threaten the Palestinians, and in which Natenyahu's ministers constantly talk about creating settlements, or the one in which Israeli army regularly goes and destroys the civilian infrastructure.. come on ! There is no Palestinian state. Its a joke
Harris sahib or Abbas sahib tuhanu 🎉 from Punjab India 🇮🇳
This is not a religious war which is this war is between devil and peace
Great conversation. Kudos to both of you 👍
GOOD job Haris Sir
I'm happy to attend your show and debate him. I'm a lawyer, and he lacks understanding about genocide, ethnic cleansing, and international law. He calls himself an atheist but seems to have anti-Islamic views. Has he ever been to Palestine or Israel? Does he know about Israel government policies? Palestinian’s likely have a broader mindset than him. He seems to see all Muslims as extremists and doesn't understand their perspective. He repeatedly emphasizes the need for a two-state solution, but he lacks correct facts on current affairs and war. I'm disappointed that you gave him a platform to spread unverified knowledge without citing sources. I'm sorry, but I'm unsubscribing. Also, most of my atheist friend agree that his mindset is anti-Islamic rather than atheist. Perhaps he needs education on being a true atheist because he seems extremely confused
Dear advocate
Nothing succeeds than success
Jew have right to live in Israel they were arabic Jew under English rule they have right to live in theirs own cultural immotional land associated with culture historical spiritual connection
Islam dnt give them freedom dignity and participation under theirs rule
They lived in getto all over world including Muslim .
Secondly Palestine is not only Israel
It is all area. Including Israel jorden Syria lebnon
Why they fighting for Israel occupied
1947uno given judgement
Why they refused to accept
No doubt Israel have right to exist protect and exert theirs law .
Phelstine best solution now is accept isreal
And adopt two state formulas as plo
Mahmud faction following
Violence is not solution
Consequences are before you
uAE Saudi supporting isreal
Only Iran supporting Hamas hazbulla ..
As defeating Guerilla .
Adding new world order for globalist
Conflict is theirs food to servive
Islam cannot win against satanic verses political fake fighting Islam ideology
Better to accept isreal theirs existence and collaborate unlike plo for political solution than wiping out Jews from Israel
More over Pakistani have not right to support isreal
They already got Hindu land as Islamic republic
Given by Hindu as peace solution .because Muslim dnt wantto live with under Hindu .
Similiar argument with Jews
Paarsi are living in India but they are native from Iran...why there is no parsi family in Iran...because they leave that place because they didn't want to fight with shias and they were oppressed...and now it became normal...so why Palestinians leave that place and settle in muslim countries....if there are muslim majority country christian majority can exist...why there is one jew state is a pain of world but not 55 muslim states..
What are Abbas's views on genocide of Kashmiri pandits?
So you invited a ex Muslim who has spread lies before and got caught too. Shame on you for inviting him for debate in a first place.
I will not be surprised if US gives natenyahu noble peace award. after seeing current US support
To ap ismail hania ko 7th October ki dehshatgardi pe bula k sitara e jurrat / nishan e haider / hilal e imtiaz do ge kia ?
USA 🇺🇸 Netanyaho ko prize nai de ga kyun k USA 🇺🇸 ne yahya khan ko bangalion k saath zulm krne pe bhi koi Nobel prize nai diya tha ..wese noble prize America 🇺🇸 nai deta bl k Norway 🇳🇴 deta he
You are an idiot
This is why you muslims are so stupid, America is constantly pressuring Israel to wrap the operation up.🤣😂
Hilale pakistan, nishan-e-haider milna chaiye Netanyahu ko.
two state solution only on the condition that the palestinain refugees, who were evicted from their houses in 1948, should be made to return to their houses.
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Love you harris❤
Harris has the lowest sense from all of the guest you have on this channel till this date.
one basic question why its only Muslims have issues globally
Now that Abbas Haider is involved in an engaging conversation that he is speaking in a more natural manner using English words occasionally as normally a lot of Pakistanis do. Even though I appreciate his efforts in trying to avoid pink Urdu, I think, in doing do his speech comes off clunky and unnatural. I have also seen his use incorrect words at times due to lack of understanding the meaning or nuances of those words.
almighty god bless you
15:01 in 1948 750000 PALESTINian are expelled from their home land ...
Just like hindus and sikhs from Pakistan. Just like the jews from all the Arab countries.
after starting a war themselves wher they claimed they would wipe out all jews
Good job by Harris vai.....👍👍👍
Hats off to abbas haider , god bless
Huggies- i am a humanist
Also huggies- phull sapport izrael
This issue is so critical that when we hear Harris we think that this is truth but when we hear Tha Pakistan Experience & Galib Kamal we feel that they are true..... Really difficult 😬😬😬
Harris is speaking only on facts from one side
Because you haven't Spent thousands of hours Studying Archeology, Genealogy and Ancient historicity.
Haris explained well
He is pure islamaphofoc
And that's good f*ck islam
Please read a book
Gaza An Inquest into its martyrdom by Norman Finkelstein and On Palestine by Noam Chomsky-The Real Intellectuals
It will answer the rubbish haris has spoken for hours
finklestein refused to debate destiny and benny morris
@@suhelmallick where? Proof?
on twitter, Finklestein didn't respond after several requests@@Umerrr__1
Before Christians and during Christism, we recognise Jews, but not now days. Yahudi nahi hote to Christian bhi nahi hote.. all that comes before Islam... Now days Islam against Yahudies instead of Christians
Agr yahoodi nai hote to Christians nai hote to kia islam hoskta tha ? Zra sochiye
Zameer becha hua h
My compliments to Abbas Haider. The most fair and independent host. I wish him great success
Harris is so hypocritical when did israel backed by US ever have anything to Palestinians without them fighting for it. Everytime when they fought they got something in return. Why did the oslo accords took place. When did israel ever have anything peacefully to Palestinianes in gaza or west bank. Give me some examples.
😄Did you give any rights to minorities in middle east or Pakistan....How many non muslims get citizenship every year...Nobody is a fool here..
Most Isreal is white European.
Did Israel accept two state solution and PLO?
Did Israel behave well with west bank?
the answer to both is yes.
@@suhelmallick that mean you don’t have any knowledge. West bank was also occupying and people also being killed.
If you want to give your land to zionist, you can give. Why us?
Just curious, was Harris Sultan at one time an Ahmadi ?
Does this Shai.taan know more and better than entire world who is supporting plstn??
Shaitaan is fringe and his opinion is extreme, so ignored.
No one is supporting one state solution in favour Palestine except Muslim countries