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- 발로란트에서 맹활약하고 있는 인물들을 초대하여
VAL칙한 이야기를 나눠보는 토크쇼입니다.
00:00 오프닝: 게스트 소개
00:23 리빌딩 비하인드
02:42 서로의 첫인상
04:00 역할군 선정
05:00 IGL 먼치킨
05:38 젠티몇?
07:10 GEN.G의 스타일?
08:04 킥오프 결승전
09:17 카론은 성장한다
#geng #Lakia #meteor #karon #munchkin #texture #hsk #solo #발투어 #valorantmasters #vctpacific #valtour #valorant #drx #prx #dfm #bleedesports #zetadivision #t1 #rrq #talonesports #globalesports #teamsecret - เกม
![“정말 너무 아쉬웠어요.” [VAL칙한 토크 #14-2 GEN.G]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/t-j2_E3MMtw/mqdefault.jpg)
![“정말 너무 아쉬웠어요.” [VAL칙한 토크 #14-2 GEN.G]](/img/tr.png)
!["꺄악! 윾조씨와 하오동진이 나타났다!" [VAL칙한 토크 #16-1 유정선, 박동진]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/jpMktzetbNs/mqdefault.jpg)
![[GOING SEVENTEEN] EP.109 그르륵 칵칵 TTT #1 (Grrreuk kak kak TTT #1)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Ffz8WsfQNu4/mqdefault.jpg)
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젠 번들 구매
대 황 젠
대 황 젠
구매 완료
어라 이거 센티넬?
진짜 이사람들 젠지로 모인게 너무 좋았슴 울 영감님들도ㅜㅜ 같이 합 맞춘지 별로 안 됐는데도 이정도 실력이면 앞으로 지금보다 더 성장 할 젠지고 퍼시픽킥오프대회때나 마드리드때 한명도 빠짐없이 각자 할 거 다 한게 레전드였음
7:29 이게 진짜 좋은 마인드셋 인 듯
일단 해보고 생각하자 이런 게 진짜 좋은 것 같고 오히려 더 그거 때문에 이기는 판을 많이 가져오신 것 같아요 9:29 먼치킨햄은 진짜 팩폭 장인이심ㅋㅋ 도발도 잘하면서
카론님한테 강하게 말씀 하신게 그만큼 원태님의 실력이 대단한걸 알고있고 잘쏘니까 믿으시는거고 오히려 얘기를 강하게 해주시는 거겠죵
9:51 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 신인 응애 카론ㅋㅋㅜㅜ 그래도 다시 자신을 되돌아보고 깨닫는게 징쨔 대단하심
우승하고 최신순 누른사람이면 개추
*07:10** GEN.G’s play style*
Binbon: What do you think about the playstyle GEN.G pursues?
Karon: I think it varies by map. For Lotus, we build up by taking over each area one by one. On the other hand, for Split, we rely on the individual competency of each team member - we engage in a lot of ‘contacts’ and have the mindset of ‘if we win this, we win the game!’
Lakia: As a team, I believe we pursue the playstyle of all five of us thinking the same thing. Even if it’s a wrong decision, we still have to execute it as a team - we act together, whether it's by shooting or playing. Eventually, it will work somehow.
Binbon: I think the difference from other teams is that GEN.G has fast decision-making, but it seems like all five players are on the same wavelength.
Meteor: In the past season, PRX were the unbeatable champions of the Pacific - it seems like we are bringing that feeling now. You know those crazy plays as if we took our brain out - I think that style works better for us, and our biggest strength is that our minds are united as one.
Binbon: So it’s like a combined robot where all 5 players are merged.
Lakia: Yes, it's not like giving one punch each; it's like all five of us punching together, like BAM.
*08:04** Kick-off finals*
Binbon: When you first met PRX, you were defeated at first but then won in the finals. What mindset did you prepare with?
Lakia: After winning the first game and then getting reverse-swept by PRX in Lotus, I went to the lobby and kept using the shotgun because I was so frustrated. When we faced them again in the finals, I trusted in how good my team was, and I calmly focused on what I needed to do.
Meteor: To be honest, to beat PRX, we needed to have good aim. When we lost, you could see from our movements that we were scared. So after that loss, we decided to focus on what we were good at - fighting with guns (aim) - and we regained our confidence. I think that's how we won.
Karon: I was so scared during the kick-off.
Binbon: I'm sorry, but it was obvious kkk. We could tell that you were nervous on stage.
Karon: Actually, my main strength is my aim, but instead of focusing on that, I kept focusing on the calls, so I became the typical smoke thrower. During the game against PRX, Munchkin said, 'If you don’t understand, just watch my screen - just die quickly and watch my screen. I will show you!' I got real-time help by watching him make kills after pushing, etc. So I thought, 'If HE can do it, then of course, I can too!' I have an aim that even he acknowledged, so I pushed like crazy and won.
Binbon: If you compare it to the real world, it’s like you met a really good first boss!
*09:17** Karon improving!*
Karon: The thing is, as you can tell, I play as if I have no idea about team play. So from Munchkin’s perspective, it was like I couldn’t do things that I was expected to know how to do - he was furious. I kept getting bombarded by his brutal honesty, which started with cursing. My mind became foggy, and since I kept getting criticised, I just got scared. But from Munchkin’s perspective, he’s like, ‘He (Karon) should be doing this here, but why is he not doing it…?’. So he’d be like, ‘Is something off?’ and I’d reply, ‘No, nothing,’ and I'd just brush it off. One day, we drank together. I cried so much and said, 'I don’t know if I’m here just to get cursed at or to learn how to play games.' It got to the point where I said I couldn’t play in this team…
Karon: I kept thinking about it - ‘Why would he keep criticising me?’, ‘Which part was he unhappy with?’, and I rewatched my gameplays. And after that, I understood! After seeing my faults, I gave calls like ‘Munchkin, put the Molly first!’ which happened after we drank.
Lakia: We’d say like ‘Yo Karon, this is going good~’ and we’d do this -
Meteor: We call this a winning call - the moment we get this call, it’s a round that we think we've already won - and Karon did it first - for the first time ever.
Binbon: Now that you understand Munchkin better, let’s send a video letter to the past Karon
Karon: Dear me from the past, stop whining because you got criticised! Just think that there’s something meaningful behind it. And don’t hold back your feelings - if you’re having a hard time, let them out. I know you can do well, so I hope you try your best!
♥♥♥♥
이번대회때 진짜 누구하나 안필요한 선수가 없었다고 생각함
5명 각자가 해줘야될때 멋있게 해주기도 했고 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 덕분에 이번대회 너무 재밌게 응원하면서 즐겼습니다
결과론적이긴 하지만 메테오 감시자 포변은 미친 판단인듯 스플릿 나오면 한번씩 제트로 씹캐리해주고 평소에는 감시자로 최소 1인분 이상 해줘서
요즘 하는거보면 그냥 카론 메테오가 씹 게임체인저임 ㄷㄷ
9:30 은평구 꽃사슴 ㄷㄷ
은평구 꽃사슴은 아직 실존한다....!
발로란트에서도 존재한다...
카론이 진짜 씹 상수였음. 어떻게 저게 신인?
10:22 상범이형 몰리먼저해 이거 어디가면 볼수 있죠??
5:25 この場面グランドファイナルで見た時にまじですげぇ選手だなと思った
인터뷰 너무 재밌습니다 ㅋㅋ
드디어 왔다 젠지편~
2부를 얼른 내놔..!
영상 재밌게 잘 뽑았네ㅋㅋ 대황젠 앞으로도 파이팅~
*00:27** Rebuilding behind*
Meteor: About a year ago, it was the end of the season, and as I was talking to the team, the first thing they said was, ‘Meteor, I think everyone except you will leave the team.’ My first thought when I heard this was, ‘Why did they make me stay?’ My second thought was, ‘If they are all leaving, what am I supposed to do?’ One by one, the (ex) members came to me and said, ‘I’m leaving…’ Bail coach called me separately and also mentioned, ‘Meteor, I think I’m going to leave as well.’ I think I also gave up; I just didn’t have the courage to challenge the idea of rebuilding this team because I was left alone.
When I talked to the director, he said, ‘Meteor, just trust me and wait a little bit.’ After that, t3xture and hsk joined, and I think that’s when we started becoming organised.
Binbon: How did Karon join?
Karon: I think they really had nowhere else to look but the amateur list. I was so nervous during my test, but at least my aim was good, so I got accepted.
Lakia: Karon keeps saying that he was very nervous, but despite that, what he showed was powerful.
Meteor: For example, if he’s in a 1v3, which everyone would think, ‘How do you win that?’, he would win them.
Binbon: Looks like hsk took good care of his little treasure box~ You did a shout out for INPA - he’s your dad? He got so much criticism in the chat - ‘Who do you think you are?!’ kkkkk
Karon: For me, he’s really like a dad. He told me, ‘We’ll do a scrim - contact me if you’re interested in being an amateur.’ So I reached out to him because I wanted to do something. He taught me about the game and helped me a lot - he gave me so much support during that time.
Lakia: For me, I was taking a break after leaving DK plus KIA. I was first contacted by t3xture - he really had faith in me, and after I passed my test, I joined GEN straight away.
Binbon: So this is the order - Meteor was alone, then t3xture, hsk, and then Lakia.
Meteor: Actually, before Lakia and t3xture joined, there were two players from another famous team. But both our team and their team didn’t mesh well, so after finding other players, we recruited Lakia, Karon, and then Munchkin.
*02:42** First impressions*
Binbon: I’m curious about Karon’s first impression of the members.
Karon: Everyone was already well-known in the scene. I was nervous at first, but hsk had trust in me - he said, ‘We will keep our team like this, so don’t worry and just play games, learn hard.’
Binbon: What games did you play before joining?
Karon: I played League of Legends, and I also enjoy playing Steam games.
Binbon: Did you immediately feel comfortable with anyone on the team?
Karon: t3xture. When I first arrived, he invited me to have a drink with him. He was like, ‘We need to go out and have a drink~’ even though it was our first meeting. After we had drinks, we also went to karaoke and hung out until 6 am.
Lakia: He is someone who really values the individual relationships between teammates, so from the start of our time together as a team, he made an effort to foster that.
Binbon: Who did you think would be the hardest to connect with?
Karon: Meteor. He’s quite reserved - even though he talks a lot, there's a difficult feeling. But he still looks out for me.
Lakia: I don’t think so... kkk
*04:00** Talking about in-game positions*
Meteor: To be honest, I'm still upset about it. I don’t know how I would have accepted it as a team, but from my perspective, if we had done a scrim where I played the duelist and t3xture played the sentinel, then I would have admitted that he’s better than me. But that wasn’t the case - the moment t3xture joined, they told me, ‘You have to play sentinel!’ I thought a lot about it - in the end, someone had to give up their position anyway, so I decided to be the one.
Binbon: I always say it in my streams - I respect Meteor so much.
Meteor: Even right now, it’s still overwhelming to play sentinel, but the results are good so I'm fine.
Karon: I really like my position! When I was an amateur, I thought I was so good as a duelist. Hsk told me that to take the test, I would have to prepare as a smoke agent. He mentioned, ‘since you didn’t have much experience with smokes, wouldn’t the test be difficult?’ After I changed to a smoker role, it became really fun - it has its own character traits, etc.
*05:00** IGL Munchkin*
Binbon: How did Munchkin become the IGL?
Karon: Munchkin likes to talk and has a clear concept and perspective, so after I handed the IGL position to him, I think it fit well.
Binbon: As far as I know, Munchkin’s IGL style is really spontaneous.
Meteor: Firstly, all of us are smart, so our decision-making is really fast, and Munchkin is good at summarising it. If he’s the last one alive in the game, he would suddenly move to a safe spot and start discussing the next round - he would just stay still and talk about it. It was my first time seeing something like this in my pro-gamer life.
*05:38** Discussing about GEN.G’s tier*
Binbon: Karon’s father (INPA), t3xture, and I made a video predicting the Pacific team’s tiers. Back then, people underestimated GEN - what did you think about it?
Meteor: It was understandable. We kinda screwed up our game in India (convergence). I just understood people’s comments and had fun watching it.
Lakia: Starting from Binbon saying, ‘Lakia still hasn’t shown anything yet’ -
Binbon: He got hurt kkk
Lakia: But I honestly feel like I haven’t shown much, so of course, I had to see the evaluations of our most recent games.
Meteor: (amongst ourselves we were like), let’s prove who we are.
Lakia: (we were like) ‘We’ll get good results if we play as much as we do in our scrims, so we can prove it.’
Karon: I saw the comments saying ‘GEN.G is tier 4.’ So my newbie mind was like, ‘Hell yeah~ We’ll destroy them (opponents) and prove it~’ Even better!
Binbon: What do you think your tier is now?
Meteor: I think we are tier 0 , PRX is 0.5, and the rest… I hope you can climb up….
Lakia: I think we need to secure our position.
Karon: (cutting in) I don’t think that far ahead. People are definitely going to be like, ‘0 tier? Who do you think you are?’ But if we say we’re 1 tier, I get it - because we won kick-offs.
Karon: Our scrim winning rate during kick-off was 80%. We played about 150 games. It was only 3 months after our rebuilding, so we played about 7 games a day. If we were in good form, we would win all 7 games, and if our condition wasn’t good, we would win 5 games and lose 2.
Thank you so much, i really needed this. 🎉❤❤
카론 욕먹으면서도 피드백 흡수하고 스텝업하는게 ㅈㄴ멋있네
아 카론 너무 귀엽다
젠지 파이팅~
아 진짜 귀엽다..
젠지는 신이양!!!
카론은 진짜 재능이네 ㅋㅋㅋ 엔트리하다가 연막으로 바꿔서 이정도 퍼포먼스를..;
젠지 와줘서 감사합니다 카론님
카론 마인드가 엄청 좋네 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
바~로 상하이 우승 해버리고 ㅋㅋ
수고하셨습니다😊
카론.. 당신은 보석!!
5:27 이거 이번 대회에서 먼치킨이 브리즈 복도 개구멍에서 이런식으로 대화나눈적 있었는데 누구랑 싸울때였죠?
대황젠~
아 카론 진짜 개귀엽네ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
개웃기네 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
3:13 대 나 라
너네까지 잘해버리면 챔스때 직관 맨날 가야잖아ㅡㅡ
아니 카론 개웃기네ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 그런일이 있었구만?
대황젠
2:30 제스트 알비였나본데?
근데 젠지 당시 상황 생각하면 단장도 안좋은 일 휘말리면서 내부적으로 다사다난했을 것 같은데 그 위기를 극복하고 롤도 1위에 현재 플레이오프 2라운드 승자조 진출
발로란트는 킥오프 우승에 마스터스 준우승 ㅎㄷㄷ 진짜 대단한듯
카론 진짜 ㅈㄴ 보물이라니깐요
카론 미필이었으면 진짜 나갔다 대사슴을 어케 버티냐
다른구단 두명은 rb zest인감?
맞을듯?
Rb는 안타깝더라 매판 캐리해도 edg ase fpx drg te 이런 중국강팀들은 못이기더라 이적 하긴할듯
Rb가 te아니에요? @@user-wt9kz8jo5d
@@user-dv4wl5pb6c rb는 tec 내가 말하는te는 trace esports
정황상 맞는듯? ㅋㅋ
그렇게 진짜 0티어가 되버린 대황젠
이젠 0티어가 맞지 ㄷㄷ;;
핵쟁이가 카론 듀오픽 찍은거보고 카론은 잘할거같았음 ㅋㅋ
대 이 우
10:23
이번 대회 빈본님 해설자로 나갔나요
단장 ㅈㄴ 멋있노
아니, 썸네일에 왜 충주시 홍보맨이 있음? 이라고 생각했네
근데 지금은 0티어 맞자나 ㅋㅋ 꾸준히 유지햇으면 조켓음
젠지 저평가하던 자칭 ㅈ문가들 다 죽음?
지금보니 solo감독 먼치킨 빼면 다 김씨네 ㅋㅋ
0티어 맞지 결승 연속5회 진출이 좆으로 보이나..
PRX 찡이 이제 돌아오니 붙어볼만 하네
찡 신격화 ㄴㄴ
군필 카론vs면제 찡 웅장하네 ㅇㅇ
@@user-zc3ck2uz6x ㅇㅇ
@@Lu2t 신격화 이러고 있네ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 찡 있을때 챔스 2등까지 한 팀인데 몬옛이 들어와서 강팀 이미지가 없어진게 맞는데 뭔 신격화 소리하고 있냐?
@@Kjs7172 정보) 찡있는 페렉은 센티넬한테 3대떡으로 터졌다
sen 화이ㅌ...
요기 아니야;😢
#SENWIN
88848하는 옆집보다는 훨씬더 좋다