How Powerful are Black Powder Guns?? - Ballistic High-Speed

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  • @BallisticHighSpeed
    @BallisticHighSpeed  หลายเดือนก่อน +585

    Hope you all enjoyed another longer video! What other historical weapons should we test??

    • @butterflywoodworks2374
      @butterflywoodworks2374 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      Do you have access to any anti personal mines, or did I miss that one?

    • @Thegoldenaerobar2
      @Thegoldenaerobar2 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

      Or if possible a napoleonic era cannon firing

    • @crazynoob3329
      @crazynoob3329 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@BallisticHighSpeed 25 mm vs hard steel

    • @mrz1703
      @mrz1703 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      I agree with a cannon 👆😅

    • @Tarquin21723
      @Tarquin21723 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      You have to do Civil War Mini-Ball rounds next.

  • @_fR8
    @_fR8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1611

    Never seen a gel block get split before. That was neat.

    • @holyslothgod3623
      @holyslothgod3623 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

      Yea after that i would love to see a ballistics torso

    • @bwthomas84
      @bwthomas84 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@holyslothgod3623@garandthumb has done this last year i believe

    • @charliefrost-bo2kw
      @charliefrost-bo2kw หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      Not even with 3 inch 12 gauge slugs, weird.

    • @Pyroteknikid
      @Pyroteknikid หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Need to extend that rifle barrel another 12" to take advantage of the extra powder.

    • @nickleback3695
      @nickleback3695 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      I've seen blocks split by certain 12 ga slugs like the "hydra shock", the thing the ones that split the block in half have in common is they dump their energy very quickly.

  • @tommeakin1732
    @tommeakin1732 หลายเดือนก่อน +2098

    This one goes out to all my 1400-1800's doctors out there who had to try and patch these poor cunts up

    • @brigidtheirish
      @brigidtheirish หลายเดือนก่อน +138

      I don't think there's *any* patching up the last guy.

    • @PapaDon850
      @PapaDon850 หลายเดือนก่อน +211

      Yeah, I’m guessing the docs didn’t have to explain why they need to amputate your leg in the 1800’s.

    • @Dingles_The_Dog
      @Dingles_The_Dog หลายเดือนก่อน +113

      Back in the day when a doc with a 50% success rate was a good doctor and that's before the infection

    • @SRFriso94
      @SRFriso94 หลายเดือนก่อน +74

      I think doctors would have just been honest then. "Yeah, he dead, fam." Although maybe a bit more formal, because that's how people talked back then: "Aye, this man has deceased, my familiar."

    • @isaacgraff8288
      @isaacgraff8288 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      @@PapaDon850 some of those shots may have amputated the limb for them.

  • @btinsley785
    @btinsley785 หลายเดือนก่อน +629

    Black powder velocities are not only dependent upon the total charge but also the specific formulation used. Goex is the slowest of the commercial powders. On the Everything Black Powder channel, he makes his own. He made some using Cottenelle toilet paper as the charcoal source and got velocities higher than the best commercial powder.

    • @foxfire8284
      @foxfire8284 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

      Now who can say homemade stuff is worse than factory?

    • @BallisticBen247
      @BallisticBen247 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      Talk about wiping the smirk off your face! 😂 Thanks for the referral! Going to check him out now!

    • @floridagunrat1625
      @floridagunrat1625 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you are interested in black powder, his channel is definitely worth watching!
      ​@BallisticBen247

    • @rokclymer1
      @rokclymer1 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      I've been watching Jake over on EBP for quite a while, and have successfully made my own "Antique Muzzleloading propellant" that beats the socks off of Goex any day of the week!!

    • @Sableagle
      @Sableagle หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@rokclymer1 Watch out for extra chamber pressure if you're using faster-burning powders, but otherwise: YAY! VELOCITY!
      Cottonelle, kind of like icing sugar? I know this messy trick involving icing sugar ...

  • @MonochromaticPrism
    @MonochromaticPrism หลายเดือนก่อน +183

    18:00 This is part of what made black powder warfare so brutal. If the ball managed to hit tissue that flattening means the whole kinetic load is getting dumped into your body. If that thing clips your shoulder you could end up with half your entire shoulder joint being blown off.

    • @PRC533
      @PRC533 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

      Not to mention turning any bone in the way into complete powder. There is a reason limbs had to be amputated, there was nothing left in them to put back together.

    • @bigchooch4434
      @bigchooch4434 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      This feels like the "a miss by 3 feet with a 50 cal can rip your arm off" and 9mm blows the lung out of the body"

    • @lyonsrobbie999
      @lyonsrobbie999 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      @@bigchooch4434 I'm no expert, but a huge chunk of soft lead rapidly expanding against my vulnerable mortal frame sounds pretty bad. Probably worse than just gettng shot with modern small arms anyway.

    • @gagnorblu
      @gagnorblu 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      @@bigchooch4434 It's less to do with the gun and more to do with biology; there's a lot of important blood vessels in your shoulder to the point that any surgeon is going to roast any TV show that treats it as a minor injury. Anything that creates a larger wound channel is really going to create a problem.

    • @swarmlord101
      @swarmlord101 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Another fun fact is that soldiers, at least where I'm from, used to cut a cross fairly deep into their musket balls to make them expand/break apart on impact with the body. It was incredibly brutal.

  • @banks3388
    @banks3388 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

    Modern gun enthusiasts discover the fact that smooth bore muskets expand in the body, this was a thing and the reason why hollow point and tumbling ammunition would eventually be developed (soldiers were upset that modern ammunition didn't have the same stopping power as muskets).

    • @scasny
      @scasny 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Now the stories that it can blow off a limb are not that far fetched.

  • @davidcowles63
    @davidcowles63 หลายเดือนก่อน +843

    I started shooting black powder in the 70's. It is definitely possible to load a black powder load to be supersonic. And you definitely experienced why we often called a flintlock a "flinch" lock. Also, not a safety trigger, that's a "set" trigger.

    • @jazzwhiskey582
      @jazzwhiskey582 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

      I agree. I hunt with a Hawkin similar to the one in the video .50 cal. I absolutely shoot supersonic ~1500 fps. I converted mine to a cap lock though. You bet, that's a set trigger aka a hair trigger! Pull that back trigger and the then the front trigger will go off with the slightest touch. In my experience it helps compensate for the tendency to pull your shot.

    • @lloydsims1573
      @lloydsims1573 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Thanks @jazzwhiskey582 for beating me with the correction on the 'safety'. I shoot a TC Renegade .50 cap lock with the set trigger - set to about 3/4 lb.

    • @JKHTX
      @JKHTX หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      Anti safety trigger 😂

    • @FlintlockOperator
      @FlintlockOperator หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      I have a video on how to overcome the flintlock flinch If anyone's interested in how to train out of it!

    • @uncletiggermclaren7592
      @uncletiggermclaren7592 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@JKHTX Pretty much. At least they can only get their ND in single fire. :)

  • @ThousandTimesNo
    @ThousandTimesNo หลายเดือนก่อน +366

    the sound of "click" before the actual explosion of the powder is one of the most satisfying sounds ever.

    • @Sneedmeister
      @Sneedmeister หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      probably the last sound many executed men heard

    • @ThousandTimesNo
      @ThousandTimesNo หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Sneedmeister exactly

    • @nigel900
      @nigel900 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If the powder exploded, they’d be picking shrapnel out of their foreheads…

  • @lawrencestanley8989
    @lawrencestanley8989 หลายเดือนก่อน +251

    For future reference, if you want a faster lock time, you only fill the pan about 1/3 of the way; you never fill it all the way as it slows down the lock time. And it's perfectly fine to prime the pan with the same granulation of powder that goes in the barrel.
    Great video!

    • @misguidedsaint3693
      @misguidedsaint3693 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      I fill the pan to the bottom of the flash hole. Gets it to shoot with the least amount of delay and fairly reliably

    • @vieuxfrancais8978
      @vieuxfrancais8978 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Exactly.

    • @hoxviii
      @hoxviii 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      If you tilt the gun so the powder sits on the side of the pan opposite the flash hole, you'll get an even faster lock time.
      The goal isn't to burn the powder like a fuse, it's for the heat of the priming powder to flash through the flash hole to light the main charge.

    • @Rick-dzm
      @Rick-dzm 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@misguidedsaint3693 A little air gap works best

    • @bad74maverick1
      @bad74maverick1 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I use 2F in the barrel and 4F in the pan. 4F is way better and faster for flash. When I go hunting I use 7F in the flash pan, no different than a regular rifle.

  • @colinarmstrong1892
    @colinarmstrong1892 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Always interesting watching people that don't know how to use flintlock firearms, trying to do so.
    I am sure plenty of people will have pointed out all the errors they made, so I will focus on the results that were a great video and show why such firearms were such a major impact at the time.

  • @SeanRoland-r1q
    @SeanRoland-r1q หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    I can’t get over how good the chemistry is between you two for this channel. It just works so good. Every video is so well done. It is cool seeing the varying inputs from both you. One of the best channels on youtube in my opinion.

  • @pauletxfish4976
    @pauletxfish4976 หลายเดือนก่อน +448

    most users of black powder firearms of the 18 and 19 century used the same powder for both pan and charge. 3F will work well and in the larger caliber firearms 2F worked well too for the pan. It saved having to have (or lose ) different size powders. A properly tuned flintlock has no discernable "hang" time. You demonstrated "flinchlock" in your hold. Lastly you DONT want the powder to cover the "flashhole" i then requires for that powder to burn into the charge , like a fuse. Instead fill the pan about half way, as the "flash" from it will travel faster into the main charge.

    • @williambigbills-9665
      @williambigbills-9665 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Only thing I disagree with is the powder. I use finer powder in my pan for all my rifles that aren’t “factory” made. A lot of my handmade flintlocks have smaller touch holes in them and the finer powder works better.

    • @skullandcrossbones65
      @skullandcrossbones65 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      G'day, Looks like some more Balistics High Speed needed to varify these claims.

    • @coopersand911
      @coopersand911 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I'm glad I checked for this comment because I was gonna say the same lol

    • @Kriegermeister1
      @Kriegermeister1 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I have a .45 cal flintlock hawken. I use 3fffg in the pan and the the main charge. Manual says 55gr is the max load for 3fffg and i use 50gr. I use a 0.018 lubed pillow ticking patch with a .440 round ball. It's pretty accurate load for anything below 75 yards. I hit a 8in x 8in square piece of copper sheet metal at 75 yards 4 of 7 times, wasn't happy with it; but glad i actually hit the sheet more than once. lol

    • @christopherreed4723
      @christopherreed4723 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I was going to say the same thing. As far as I know, the benefit of finer grain priming powder is that it will ignite from the sparks more readily and burn off more quickly, which generates a fast, hot flash that reaches the chamber sooner. So it will reduce lock time, but it does it indirectly.

  • @TheCannoneer
    @TheCannoneer หลายเดือนก่อน +2161

    Would you guys be interested in coming to film my cannon?

  • @MrTitanicfanatic2
    @MrTitanicfanatic2 หลายเดือนก่อน +236

    As a guy who shoots almost nothing except black powder, this was a breath of fresh air. There's SHOCKINGLY little good content going over this sort of thing on this platform.
    I have an 1861 Springfield, .58 caliber that I absolutely love. It fires Minie Balls, and if y'all are up to it I would LOVE to see the difference between standard balls, minie balls and modern ammunition. A torso test would also be VERY interesting to see. Maybe try out an American Long Rifle/Kentucky/Pennsylvania Rifle with a longer barrel and see if you can actually crack mach 2?
    Would also be cool to see y'all check out caplocks and modern inline muzzleloaders with 209 primers to see how much closer they get to modern ammunition's ignition times as measured here.

    • @DamienDarkside
      @DamienDarkside หลายเดือนก่อน

      As a Canadian who has no access and no budget to fire black powder firearms, I'm happy that there is actually GOOD content now that shows off black powder. Most history channels and such use blanks or whatever, I have never really seen the real delay between pulling the trigger and firing. The ball is now there to temporarily block the pressure of the powder, so it isn't as instantaneous like it is in reenactments.

    • @jedironin380
      @jedironin380 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Seconded! I'd love to see this!

    • @carton5235
      @carton5235 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oh I absolutely agree, I'd love to see that

    • @barbarapiercy4312
      @barbarapiercy4312 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I giggle every time I hear someone pronounce it Minnie ball. It was invented by a French man named Minier. Pronounced Min-eya. Americans love to butcher names and words to make them their own.

    • @timelesspizza9892
      @timelesspizza9892 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@barbarapiercy4312 well no shit... that's how accents and dialects are formed.

  • @WunderWaffles
    @WunderWaffles หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    You could almost say it turned into Guts and Blackpowder.

  • @GrimTheYeeter
    @GrimTheYeeter หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is why our great great great grandfathers were tearing things up back in the old days. All the old black powder rifles and pistols were large caliber and they packed a punch. The wounds were devastating and a primary reason why a lot of people had to undergo amputation of limbs because there was no saving what was left.

  • @BogeyTheBear
    @BogeyTheBear หลายเดือนก่อน +202

    1:50 The 4Fg powder is used in the pan because it's faster-burning, not because you want that powder to fill in the vent hole.
    In fact, you want to keep that vent hole clear of powder because burning gases move faster down that vent than a packed column of fine gunpowder. They call it the 'fuse effect' and it slows down the ignition time.

    • @bladewind0verlord
      @bladewind0verlord หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Oh that makes sense, hadn't heard of the fuse effect. I was surprised in the highspeed how few sparks are made by the flint; I imagine finer powder is also easier to ignite?

    • @uniformguy751151
      @uniformguy751151 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Black powder is DIRTY. if you fill the "touch hole" it fouls very quickly and has to be picked clean more often.

    • @darylsapergia3663
      @darylsapergia3663 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@bladewind0verlord Cheap/poor lock. All of my flintlocks are much faster in ignition time and produce a SHOWER of sparks.

    • @JosipRadnik1
      @JosipRadnik1 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@bladewind0verlord
      slightly. It simply covers the pan better and offers more surface to catch one of the sparks. The trick though really is to not put too much powder in the pan. Keep the vent hole clear and only put enough powder into the pan in order to cover the area. my rule of thumb is that the volume inside of the pan has to be filled up one third to half with fine powder. In the barrel, you want to use slightly slower burning powder to keep the pressure curve in harmony with the barrel length. So the shorter the barrel, the finer the powder you can try using but the differences aren't huge.
      What's also important is the quality of the lock. Good harmonising of the cock and the frizzen in terms of resistance/power of the different springs is one aspect. sometimes it helps to put a bit grease on the surface of the spring that's holding the frizzen in place to make it quicker.

    • @astrotrek3534
      @astrotrek3534 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@bladewind0verlord Their flint is blunt I think, you have to knap them every so often to keep them sharp

  • @Matt-yv6yu
    @Matt-yv6yu หลายเดือนก่อน +255

    The second trigger on the flintlock rifle is not a safety, it is a “set trigger.” Pulling that trigger first sets the hammer closer to the edge of the sear, allowing for a much lighter trigger pull. It’s unsafe to carry the rifle around with the sear and hammer so close to disengaging, so the set trigger allows shooters to have a much lighter and shorter trigger pull once they are already safely aiming at a target

    • @WHEELGUNNER1
      @WHEELGUNNER1 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      Maybe a little more research into these firearms is needed before making a video

    • @pauletxfish4976
      @pauletxfish4976 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      PLEASE HAVE SOMEONE WHO KNOWS ABOUT "SET TRIGGERS" EXPLAIN IT

    • @vechmaster
      @vechmaster หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      Literally the opposite of a safety. A danger enhancer, if you will

    • @meanman6992
      @meanman6992 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      But everyone with a slow motion camera and guns on the Internet is an expert! Especially if they’re a veteran! 🤦‍♂️ (I’m a veteran btw)

    • @jesscobb2279
      @jesscobb2279 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      These guys are definitely NOOB's at BP

  • @tlock4616
    @tlock4616 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    My dad shot a deer with a .50 caliber cap and ball rifle. Where the ball hit the ribs, there was a circle where three ribs were completely missing. On the other side there was three exit holes. We weren't sure if the ball split into three pieces or if the sections of rib penetrated the other side. The heart had multiple holes in it and the lungs looked like mush.

  • @Cadh-ln2tx
    @Cadh-ln2tx หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    You just hear a loud bang and this is your friend right next to you 19:42

    • @Jdubbleprime
      @Jdubbleprime 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Ohhhh

    • @Jdubbleprime
      @Jdubbleprime 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Ohhhh

    • @Dr-Manhattan
      @Dr-Manhattan 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Pretty terrible to think about the reality of that - makes me appreciate our Veterans even more. Hurts the heart to think someone’s son was probably sent home like that.

  • @chonch_burger
    @chonch_burger หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    4:40 the second trigger or the rear trigger is a set trigger, when you pull that trigger it makes the front trigger a hair trigger that will go off if you look at it wrong. It's not a saftey, it's for more precise shooting. Half cocked is referring to the first position the hammer locks into, this is your safety.

  • @scousewillo62
    @scousewillo62 หลายเดือนก่อน +127

    Some of the best black powder footage I have seen. Those rifles where so lethal. Not only did they dump most of the energy in the target but it would also have been a very dirty wound.

    • @foxfire8284
      @foxfire8284 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Explains why the death rate was so high. Not just because of poorer medical care.

    • @russbilzing5348
      @russbilzing5348 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      @@foxfire8284Another part of the problem was that, often times, a piece of the patch would be carried into the wound, creating a high incidence of sepsis as they might be linen, wool, a mixture of both or leather. With the haste involved in frontier battle surgeries, those offending bits might be overlooked, with dire consequences.

    • @roadsweeper1
      @roadsweeper1 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      There was a reason why, the larger calibre rifles like the 577 using the Minie round, people tried to get them banned from battlefields, because they were too barbaric. Any wound, wherever it hit, was usually fatal eventually. Hit an arm, the impact literally shattered the bone into many little pieces, turning the limb into a bloody pulp, hit a larger limb like a leg bone or hip... not a pretty result. If the wound didn't kill you outright, the following infection usually did, as damage that severe was impossible to clean properly.

    • @rileymosman2808
      @rileymosman2808 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Years ago I had a debate with someone online because they called muskets "slightly lethal" outside of 100 yards. Said that at 200 yards a musket ball would literally bounce off of your skin. Glad to be back in a land of rationality.

    • @Heritage367
      @Heritage367 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@russbilzing5348 if you notice between 19:04 and 19:08, the patch is deposited inside the skull!

  • @Thegoldenaerobar2
    @Thegoldenaerobar2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2989

    So this proves that owning a musket for home defense could be viable in terms of damage
    Just as the founding fathers intended

    • @wingzero7X
      @wingzero7X หลายเดือนก่อน +177

      Just as the founding fathers intended 😂😂😂

    • @stoops187
      @stoops187 หลายเดือนก่อน

      “Tally Ho Lads”

    • @hamonuryams6388
      @hamonuryams6388 หลายเดือนก่อน +128

      Yeah just dont miss tho

    • @rick516104
      @rick516104 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

      Yep for 1 shot lol

    • @hamonuryams6388
      @hamonuryams6388 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

      @@rick516104 lol thats all you’re gonna need😂

  • @TankFerretPresents
    @TankFerretPresents หลายเดือนก่อน +261

    9:23 and 16:37 This sheds a whole new light on American Civil War injuries. Holy smokes!!

    • @KCCereal
      @KCCereal หลายเดือนก่อน +48

      These are actually revolutionary era rifles, so just imagine the damage of a civil war rifle! People really need to stop underestimating the power of these older weapons.

    • @TankFerretPresents
      @TankFerretPresents หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @KCCereal yeah, I was just looking into that. Brutal!

    • @Nikolai_The_Crazed
      @Nikolai_The_Crazed หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      These old rifles were often 50-to-80 caliber. Black powder might not have as much umph as smokeless, but traveling at supersonic speeds? These things would fuck someone up. Literal bone crushers. Now imagine what it was like to get hit by a cannon.

    • @tfan2222
      @tfan2222 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@Nikolai_The_CrazedDawg saying “imagine getting hit by a cannon” is like saying “imagine getting hit by artillery.” Cannons were used on entire lines and groups of infantry.

    • @TankFerretPresents
      @TankFerretPresents หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @Nikolai_The_Crazed like that armor from The Battle of Waterloo? Oof, no thanks!

  • @robjohnson583
    @robjohnson583 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm not sure if anyone had mentioned it yet, but they do count as muskets, because they are still muzzleloaders, muskets with rifling are aptly referred to as Rifled Muskets! :) hope this clears things up

  • @bigginsmcsauce
    @bigginsmcsauce หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love black powder content. Period. Big thanks to you guys and your team for making this excellent video!
    That being said:
    I've always heard you don't want any of the flash powder inside of or actually touching the "touch-hole." Supposedly, leaving a small gap between the flash powder and the touch-hole ignites more reliably. There should be almost no perceivable hang-fire effect due to the hole being clear and free to allow the flash to travel straight through to the powder inside the chamber, rather than acting like a fuse if it's plugged with powder.

  • @woodlanditguy2951
    @woodlanditguy2951 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    You all should do a video with "Everything Black Powder", Those guys could offer some great insight and they are masters of the craft that is black powder.

  • @robertnichols2283
    @robertnichols2283 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    Obviously, lack of lethality wasn’t the problem with flintlock weapons
    It was the reload time
    (Along with lack of reliability in wet weather)

    • @jacobstaten2366
      @jacobstaten2366 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Reload time, range, the big cloud of smoke, weight, in some cases penetration.

    • @texasslingleadsomtingwong8751
      @texasslingleadsomtingwong8751 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Reload time , and weather issues are both huge issues. But the damage is crazy .

    • @mho...
      @mho... หลายเดือนก่อน

      all the "powder" weapons are still terrifying! there is nothing a modern solider could do, if something like a cannonball is fired at them!

  • @rsereday
    @rsereday หลายเดือนก่อน +58

    I had a 54 cal BP with 425 grain minie ball and 110 grains of black powder... FPS was always in the 1,800 fps range. That is 3,000 foot pound of energy.... about twice as much as a 44mag 240 grain, which is NO JOKE.

    • @Sableagle
      @Sableagle หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pretty much a 30-gauge slug with a 12-gauge powder charge?

    • @andrewvu1752
      @andrewvu1752 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      110 grains is quite hot for a minie ball. the orignal load was 60 grains...

    • @rsereday
      @rsereday หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@andrewvu1752 That was max charge in the books. Go big or go home, right. Wasn't hunting with it. Just having fun shooting 10 inch steel plates. sent them flying.

    • @Florida_frontiersman
      @Florida_frontiersman หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rsereday fair enough 🤣

    • @astrotrek3534
      @astrotrek3534 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@andrewvu1752 Depends, you can d0 180 grains with a .75 caliber musket. The smaller the caliber the less powder, because you won't get full combustion anyways.

  • @ParkerBrown1979
    @ParkerBrown1979 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    17:45 The up and down split is because the gel is supported underneath and the shockwave is coming back up off the table. Having shot historical blackpowder weapons as a hobby and professionally for years, I can tell you that these weapons are no joke. People disregard them a lot….but they dominated warfare from 1400 to 1900. Wonderful content guys. Keep up the good work and be safe :-).

    • @meteormedia7021
      @meteormedia7021 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      That's historically incorrect. Firearms in general only came to be the dominant infantry weapon of the armies of europe and other parts of the world under strong european influence (north america, etc) from the very late 17th century onwards. And even then, most european combat doctrines relied heavily on a mixture of ranged and melee tactics until the mid-19th century.

    • @MaaZeus
      @MaaZeus 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@meteormedia7021 The stopping power of old firearms was immense but melee stuck around for so long because reloading of the said firearms was still such a slow hassle. A cavalry rush with sabers into a middle of an unprepared group who were fiddling with their empty guns would give them a bad day. But guns did become the main weapons after they became reliable and mass produceable enough and melee weapons became side arms for most armies. Even japanese, when Portugese introduced Arquebus/Matchlock to them during Japans civil war Samurai fell in love with them and soon Japan had more guns than most other countries did. It revolutionized the Japanese warfare.

  • @Thebeeparmy817
    @Thebeeparmy817 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    21:02 the brain has left the chat

  • @sleeperyjeemtoybox
    @sleeperyjeemtoybox หลายเดือนก่อน +59

    This was probably the most interesting show you've put on lads, well done.

  • @Gwydion_Wolf
    @Gwydion_Wolf หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Me as a child back in the 1990's: Why were "Rifle-men" in the age of Black-powder so lethal?"
    Me as an adult watching this: Huh... thats why.. they were essentially using .40-.50 caliber super-sonic rounds to hit their targets....

    • @somethingforsenro
      @somethingforsenro หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      for point of reference - many of the earliest guns put out similar damage to this, but they were somehow less lethal than crossbows of the day. old-fashioned weapons are pretty insane

    • @Gwydion_Wolf
      @Gwydion_Wolf หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @ talking about the ones first used over in China/Japan in the feudal era?
      Think that is because they fired larger rounds at slower speeds than musketeers/rifles later did due to them being more similar to small cannons than high-pressure muskets/rifles.

  • @uurkisme
    @uurkisme หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    Oh man a new Gun Meme Review and now this!! I feel like I just got a full sized candy bar in my bag

  • @gabecarvalho1162
    @gabecarvalho1162 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The time for the bullet to leave the flintlock rifle after hammer drop is roughly .18 seconds. The average reaction time of F1 drivers is around .2 seconds. So hypothetically, even if they were standing pretty close, an F1 driver could probably dodge a flintlock as long as he reacted to the trigger pull lmao

  • @weedsville6318
    @weedsville6318 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    9:54 he repeats himself in shock 1400 ft./s it perfect pitch and astonishment twice that was hilarious 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @zak-a-roo264
    @zak-a-roo264 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Our family in Maine has 3 1700s flintlocks that saw battle against the British and etc, I'm so stoked to get to see what they can do ,since we aren't allowed to touch the ones we have ,lol!!

    • @deauthorsadeptus6920
      @deauthorsadeptus6920 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Well you can still get working replicas, you don't even need a license to own these in a lot of places, even with strict gun control.

    • @zak-a-roo264
      @zak-a-roo264 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @deauthorsadeptus6920 thanks, I've seen the replicas fired from a distance at fairs, Minute Man demos, but had no idea of ballistic capabilities/force, these guys put on a very impressive demonstration. I'm in NH, open carry with few restrictions.

    • @Ben-fn2vy
      @Ben-fn2vy หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hello fellow mainer! I grew up in western Maine Roxbury area. Lots of deer out there.

  • @BreakdownBenjamin89
    @BreakdownBenjamin89 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I said to myself "The amount of energy expended into the head itself is astounding" and then 15 seconds later the actual percentage was displayed; 88% is a crazy amount being used to explode the skull. Keep it coming!

  • @williamthehuntsman
    @williamthehuntsman หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    I think you might be overfilling the pans a tad bit. Normally, if you prime the pan with the right amount of powder, the gun should fire a lot faster.
    Flintlocks are finicky with their loads though. Some like lighter loads, some like heavier. My Hatfield American Long Rifle likes a 75 grain powder charge with a 12 grain primer charge. And it feels like it fires almost instantly.

  • @levarris14
    @levarris14 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    ohhhhhhhhhh ! I love it !! the wonderful craftsmanship of how these things were created back then ! I built a handgun like this when I was 14, but with a percussion fuse !

  • @PavelKostromitinov
    @PavelKostromitinov หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    19:53 At this exact time it looks like a laser gun. That trailing line of fire is so interesting.

  • @reliquiae9017
    @reliquiae9017 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    This is the best video yet! Thank you! I have been shooting black powder guns, saw the bullets flattening out, and was trying to imagine what it looked like in ultra-slow-mo for years. I am so glad I asked you back when I discovered your channel. Please make these guns part of future tests.

  • @brianweber196
    @brianweber196 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    Also the term flash in the pan. Not igniting the main load.

    • @rogervincent8314
      @rogervincent8314 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @brianweber196 also, lock, stock and barrel, refer to black powder firearms.

  • @Bayan1905
    @Bayan1905 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I've shot muzzleloaders for about 30 years now, in the old days, as in the 1600-1700 and even early 1800's, flintlocks used whatever powder you had. Whatever powder you had was what you were able to get, so if you had 2F you primed with it, same with 3F. I can tell you I've hunted with large bore muzzleloaders up to .58 caliber and they are extremely destructive on a whitetail deer. I've shot them out to 150-175 yards and the .58 Minie Ball I used, same as what was in the Civil War, weighs 425 grains, just shy of 1 ounce of lead, about the same as a shotgun slug. Also, just because it has rifling, doesn't mean it can't be a musket. It would be called a rifle musket, such as what you have seen in the Civil War. Also, the second trigger on the muzzleloader is a set trigger. When properly adjusted, the rear trigger when pulled gives the forward trigger a hair trigger, something like 3-4 pounds or even less. Pulling that rear trigger sure certainly does not LOCK the forward trigger. It does the exact opposite, it makes it a very light trigger.

  • @herbderbler1585
    @herbderbler1585 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When I was a kid I used to think that guns were just long range swords, poking holes in the target like a rapier or dagger, the only extra danger coming from a bullet potentially remaining lodged inside. Thanks to TH-cam channels like this, I have a much better understanding of the harm a bullet can inflict due to cavitation, especially one approaching or exceeding 2000fps when the damage from the temporary cavity starts becoming permanent, especially when the cavity is larger than the body part trying to contain it. That's when things tend to explode like melons, as the rifle-struck head clearly demonstrates.

  • @mr.meowington8346
    @mr.meowington8346 หลายเดือนก่อน +152

    0:11 subtle foreshadowing
    edit: wow this is the most likes i have ever gotten

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      @Mr.TwoFaceGuy หลายเดือนก่อน +18

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    • @Thumbsupguy2.0
      @Thumbsupguy2.0 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

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    • @goose1114
      @goose1114 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@Thumbsupguy2.0 OK thumbs up guy👍

    • @Thumbsupguy2.0
      @Thumbsupguy2.0 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@goose1114 👍

    • @im_misfar940
      @im_misfar940 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "Subtle"? 😂

  • @christopherreed4723
    @christopherreed4723 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    Another minor gripe..."going off half cocked" does not refer to what is stated in the video. It refers to a setting between fully down and fully cocked, that disconnects the hammer (or "cock" in period terminology) from the trigger mechanism. On flintlocks this position is just far enough back to allow the frizzen to fully close over the pan, and is about as close to a mechanical safety as flintlocks got (yes I know, the "English Dog Lock". Trying to keep things simple and relatively short). Theoretically, a flintlock at half cock cannot fire, since the cock is disconnected from the sear and the half-cock notch *should* be deep enough to prevent it from snapping forward, even when struck or dropped. But a poorly made or worn mechanism could fire even in this position.
    It's also a bit of a double entendre. Since the word had its current second meaning even then, the phrase could well refer to discharging a...er...load before the appropriate...ah...tool was fully...how can I put this...engaged. 🧐

    • @lc1138
      @lc1138 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for the knowledge !

    • @herbderbler1585
      @herbderbler1585 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I believe "flash in the pan" comes from these firearms. The term refers to something that makes a grand showing but ultimately fails to actually deliver on its promise, in the manner of a flintlock that gives a nice fireball from the primer charge but fails to actually fire a bullet.

  • @trentenswett6306
    @trentenswett6306 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    So when I was doing some digging into the ballistics of my BP C&B Revolver I had, was a Pietta 1858 Rem, .44 with the shorter 5.5'' barrel, normal barrel length is 7.5 ish inches, but from what I could find with a max load of around 35-40 grains of FFF (used synthetic triple 7 triple F powder, so it ran a bit hotter then normal BP) it was comparable to 9 mm to 45 ACP in terms of ballistics going off of memory, the bullets I had where .454 ball around 120 grains, but was looking into getting conical rounds but never did and I ended up selling the pistol due to bills. Other BP revolvers with the longer barrels around the 7-8'' mark are around between 45 ACP and .357 Mag depending on round used. BP is nothing to scoff at, filled plenty of graves in their time and still are more then capable now. There was another channel who did ballistics gel testing with BP revolvers a 1860 Army and compared it to a 9mm and it was basically equal in terms of pen with the 9 mm having slightly better pen but not by much.

  • @nanaki-seto
    @nanaki-seto หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    My ancestor a great great grandpa or another great in there lost his right arm just below the shoulder to a musket ball in the civil war he was from the south and was a spy for the north also ran slaves to freedom in the north. He recovered and continued to fight with just a big Bowie knife and a pistol. He had a reputation for being extremely vicious and violent on the battle field. Black powder based fire arms were notorious for removing arms and legs when they were in common use. And yep as described the pure lead rounds flatten out massively on impact but have tremendous energy behind them.

  • @bad74maverick1
    @bad74maverick1 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Okay for starters the term "Going off half cocked" did come from flintlocks, but came from worn tumblers or loose bridles, and not from using the second (set) trigger. The gun you have must be purpose built for a trigger to be the "safety" as almost all guns that have duel set triggers are just that, set triggers. One isn't the safety, one is a target trigger that makes the actual trigger a hair trigger, meaning it takes far far less for the gun to fire than if you didn't use the set trigger and used the regular trigger, which the trigger pull would be much more. I've never heard of a trigger being a "safety" in a duel trigger gun, especially one that looks like it's actually a duel set trigger setup. In fact @5:25 you can see the set trigger release when he pulls the actual trigger. Sounds like they bought the gun and the set trigger is set to the standard trigger pounds/Oz's. The screw in the middle should adjust it lighter, then you get less flinch as well.

  • @robertwilson1295
    @robertwilson1295 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I did IM series data testing as a High Speed Camera Technician for 4 years. You guys do almost what we did. If you guys want more accurate velocity data I would suggest buying a Data Acquisition system. I.E., "Genesis", and use it with velocity screens. Helps a ton =P.

  • @corwinchristensen260
    @corwinchristensen260 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    This is a 50 caliber -- the British "Brown Bess" was 75 caliber (0.69" lead ball). This is going up from 180 grains to around 470 grains -- significantly more. The damage inflicted by these weapons was very often horrific in comparison to small arms wounds today. It was not unusual for limbs completely removed, bones shattered beyond the possibility of repair, internals absolutely devastated. Our founders ABSOLUTELY expected "the people" to keep and bear weapons of war.
    Also, based upon your comments the "hangfire" you were experiencing was in having powder in the touch hole rather than allowing the flash to pass through. You were essentially creating a short fuse that had to burn to set the main charge off. Properly tuned, flintlocks can be almost as fast as percussion. The double trigger BTW is a set trigger. It will make the regular trigger a hair trigger when pulled. It's not a safety device.

  • @Magnum_Express
    @Magnum_Express หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    i have a similar blackpowder flintlock rifle and i shoot 80 grains of FFFG and a much heavier conical style projectile. Not sure the exact velocity, but around 1200fps and yeah you definitely feel it in the shoulder. I really appreciate this video as I always assumed when I hunted with my rifle that it was only marginal for deer, but seeing these results gives me a renewed confidence in that rifles lethality.

  • @Rickyboy428
    @Rickyboy428 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    20:21 these colonists aren't shi-BOOM 🤯 random British officer during American revolutionary war

  • @kal9908
    @kal9908 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've been insecure about my burn injuries and bullet wound. Thank you for rocking your scars it makes me feel more normal.

  • @BossinDawson253
    @BossinDawson253 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    I'm honestly very surprised by the results! Sure I knew it'd be lethal. That's a given. But I wasn't expecting such amazing expansion and damage! Very impressive 👏

  • @Starxteel
    @Starxteel หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    20:44 Lincoln vs JFK

    • @Skin_Mate
      @Skin_Mate หลายเดือนก่อน

      NAAAAH 😭🙏🏻

  • @weaponeer
    @weaponeer หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Flintlock tip... Use 1/2 the amount of FFFF powder for faster ignition. Most people use far too much priming powder.
    People assume black powder weapons are far less powerful than modern weapons, but you would be shocked how much more power they have. I once shot a 5 inch diameter tree limb with a 30.06 and then shot it with A 45 caliber black powder. The 30.06. Left a small hole and the black powder rifle removed half the backside of the limb!

    • @michaelbaker8284
      @michaelbaker8284 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yup up until smokeless powder was invented they were basically shooting smaller diameter shotgun slugs. I was not surprised at all by that 1400fps.

  • @abe881
    @abe881 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    3:45 when the merchant states I haven't the funds for my parcel

  • @BeatleAaron
    @BeatleAaron หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "We know what's gonna happen to a head. What are we learning?" That exchange really made me laugh!

  • @Jeremy_Adams
    @Jeremy_Adams หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I am subscribed to ballistic high speed but not Brandon… your videos, your slo mo, your editing is just perfect!

  • @YuriyZakk
    @YuriyZakk หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    This was so cool. I would love to watch you guys shoot rare rounds to see their effectiveness. Like how you did with tungsten but more

  • @bookerdewhaat1385
    @bookerdewhaat1385 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Id be interested in seeing another episode of this, maybe 4th of July with the larger caliber .75 Brown Bess or .58 caliber pistols

  • @Jackattak0ne
    @Jackattak0ne 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This was a lot of fun, dudes! Thanks for "showing your work" too that was my favorite part.

  • @LilSleepDoctor
    @LilSleepDoctor หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    1:09 no, Abraham!! BEHIND YOU!!!

    • @Jack_abner
      @Jack_abner หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      GET DOWN MR PRESIDENT

  • @duaneperkins8329
    @duaneperkins8329 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    That was amazing!!! I have never seen as much destructive power unleashed on a gel block. Way more than even some powerful rounds over on Taofledermaus or Kentucky Ballistics' big guns.

    • @deauthorsadeptus6920
      @deauthorsadeptus6920 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And it's far from being perfect. You can see that the ball is very loose in there, so a lot of energy is dumped in the air before bullet even leaves the barrel.

    • @tjh44961
      @tjh44961 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@deauthorsadeptus6920 If you're talking about in the barrel, the ball isn't loose at all. In fact, the combined diameter for the ball and the patch is greater than the diameter of the bore, if loaded correctly. The reason that gases come out of the muzzle before the bullet exits is because it's forcing itself around and past the patch, because the ball cannot accelerate fast enough -- it has too much mass. If you have a chance, look at a fired patch, and you will see where the gases have forced themselves past the patch and cut it. This is called "gas cutting," and if severe enough, especially in guns that fire an unjacketed lead bullet, it can deform it and adversely affect accuracy.

  • @ZombieWilfred
    @ZombieWilfred หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The time from when you pull the trigger to when the main charge goes off is called "lock time."

  • @TommySpannEsq
    @TommySpannEsq หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    Here in Louisiana, there is a seperate "Black Powder" deer season, where that is all you can use to take whitetail deer. MANY deer are taken every year with them. They are surprisingly effective..

    • @DiscipleoftheKingofKings
      @DiscipleoftheKingofKings หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      every state has a black powder season.

    • @Kampos94
      @Kampos94 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Also super dumb, why use a less effective weapon that does not allow for follow up shots in the case that the animal either moves, or the shooter simply does not hit the exact spot they aimed for? I'm all for hunting, I'm not against hunting regardless of it it is rifles, bow&arrow or muzzleloader(or even knife hunting pigs as is a thing in some states), but I don't see the reason behind using inferior weapons to hunt when there are better alternatives.
      If people want to do it, go for it, I'm just saying that there are better ethical ways of doing it(semi auto rifles, or even bolt action).

    • @floridagunrat1625
      @floridagunrat1625 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      ​@Kampos94 So are you saying that bow and arrow, and knife hunting is ok, even though they are inferior to black powder firearms, but black powder guns are not OK cause they are inferior to modern firearms?

    • @PeterTurbo4
      @PeterTurbo4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@Kampos94 Some people like the challenge. I've also found that people who hunt with black powder are generally more accurate marksmen. Also, archery and black powder hunting is just as ethical as modern rifle hunting.

    • @TommySpannEsq
      @TommySpannEsq หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DiscipleoftheKingofKings Since I don't live in every other state, I only knew for certain about the one I DO live in.

  • @sethwaggoner6497
    @sethwaggoner6497 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The patched round ball out of a black powder gun is a formidable weapon. They are very effective in taking deer-sized animals and larger, when shot at the right place.

  • @JacksonKillroy
    @JacksonKillroy หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    16:59 is pretty much one of the coolest shots I've ever seen anywhere

  • @Mike.The.Jeweler
    @Mike.The.Jeweler หลายเดือนก่อน +112

    Turns out they're still guns, who would've thought? Lmao

    • @Thegoldenaerobar2
      @Thegoldenaerobar2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      I honestly never could of guessed that

    • @millardlovejoy4951
      @millardlovejoy4951 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Might be slower to reload and not as reliable but still a gun

    • @joshcaron7478
      @joshcaron7478 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Actually black powder like muzzle loaders and flint lock aren’t classified as guns. You can buy them online and have them shipped to you

    • @Mike.The.Jeweler
      @Mike.The.Jeweler หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @joshcaron7478 aren't classified as "firearms" legally, they're still "guns", which doesn't have a legal definition. Get your "ackshually 🤓" out of here

    • @millardlovejoy4951
      @millardlovejoy4951 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ I mean by the law they aren’t classified as a firearm but it indeed is a firearm lol

  • @allenpickett5307
    @allenpickett5307 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    And this is why civil war was so deadly look at what those rounds do

  • @that_deaf_dude99
    @that_deaf_dude99 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    19:22 I legitimately thought he shot a shotgun at it. I was NOT expecting that much explosive power from the rifle at all

    • @jacobstaten2366
      @jacobstaten2366 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You have to figure, a shotgun throws a 1-oz slug and it's not moving very fast. This is slower, and may not be as heavy, but it's still heavier than most modern cartridges.

  • @minacapella8319
    @minacapella8319 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's honestly just cool to see the guns go off. These were so innovative for their day

  • @Eggburt-th8xc
    @Eggburt-th8xc 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Not sure if someone has posted this already, as there are a lot of posts, but if not, here goes. When I worked in the weapons testing field some time ago, the term used, which covered the time period from the when the firing signal was outputted (for you firing impetus) to when the shot (projectile) exited, was known as the "Firing interval".
    For me this was normally the electrical firing signal output from a remote or other type of firing unit until shot exited from the muzzle. For your black powder firearms, it would probably be classed as the impact of the flint on the frizzen, or for the 500 S&W Magnum pistol, from when the firing pin impacts with the outer surface of the primer. In both cases from this point until the shot exits.
    If you are interested in old black powder firearm ballistics, try the 2010 paper titled 'Ballistics of 17th Century Muskets'. The ballistics of these firearms is actually quite surprising!
    Anyway keep up the good work!
    PS If only I had some of your camera kit when I was previously doing my old job, which covered instrumentation, high speed photography, and flash radiography.

  • @unclegurt7926
    @unclegurt7926 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    20:07 UNSC Marines when they first encountered the covenant.

    • @Averageguywithagun
      @Averageguywithagun หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ah finally a halo fan
      How are you man

  • @williamhepworth6360
    @williamhepworth6360 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    You guys do a great job with the sfx.
    Gav from SlowMo Guys made a video about how most high speed cameras don’t capture audio, and even if they did, the sounds would not be anywhere near as interesting.

  • @keithlincoln1309
    @keithlincoln1309 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I actually like this better then your modern firearms videos.

  • @BUZZKILLJRJR
    @BUZZKILLJRJR หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Probably the most satisfying video to watch!!
    Yeah I seen Grand thumb had done how deadly these old black powder muskets are
    and the ball flattened out almost a 50-cent piece ,
    I don't remember what caliber they were using but that would take your damn arm off
    Its like shooting a shotgun slug at somebody.
    Crazy damage, that's why they can take down buffalo and all kinds of crazy animals with black powder even if it didn't go that deep it was just such a massive wound zero chance of survival.

  • @csorgb05
    @csorgb05 หลายเดือนก่อน

    On the 50 caliber rifle with dual triggers, one trigger is usually the "set" trigger that makes the main trigger easier to pull and is not a "safety" trigger. Cocking the hammer to half cock is the "safe/priming" position. Most black powder firearms are designed so that the trigger cannot be released until fully cocked. This is done by a deep notch cut in the hammer that traps the trigger. That said, older guns that have worn internals can slip past the notch allowing the gun to go off "half cocked". Another situation that might be a "going off half cocked" situation: As the shooter pulls the hammer rearward to the full cock position, thus disengaging the lock work from the safety slot in the hammer, they lose grip on the hammer and it snaps forward to strike the frizzen and ignite the charge.

  • @garykirk1968
    @garykirk1968 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Just gonna say, "Set Trigger", im sure others have already explained this. I have a very similar Hawken .50 cal, that is cap fired, if you'd like to see if there is any difference hit me up

  • @HT-Blindleader
    @HT-Blindleader หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    The sheer number of whitetail that have been taken by myself, my brothers and my cousins with almost the exact same rifles of staggering. 50 years this year of deer hunting with a muzzle loader.

  • @jacobhosler1982
    @jacobhosler1982 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    The rifle is more of an energy dump than most modern ammo.😮

    • @avalonjustin
      @avalonjustin หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Tests like these make me respect the weapons of the past so much more. They were no joke.

  • @mxpxdrums
    @mxpxdrums หลายเดือนก่อน

    Technically I was subscribed to y'all first, but realized that within the last minute I have subscribed to both you and Herrera.

  • @3isr3g3n
    @3isr3g3n หลายเดือนก่อน

    Big ol' clump o' lead never fails to deliver. Truly timeless.

  • @cgrado
    @cgrado หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Remember, felons can own black powder firearms in most states, they don't require an FFL, and you won't run afoul of most, if any, firearms laws.

    • @mikeku825
      @mikeku825 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't think felons care about laws

    • @ndj.21
      @ndj.21 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Any gun made before 1898 do not have to be registered with the ATF.

  • @sigee32
    @sigee32 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    High power air rifles with heavy hollow point slugs would be awsome.

    • @floridagunrat1625
      @floridagunrat1625 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Collaborate with Edgunleshy for some real slow mo on squirrels and chipmunks!

  • @henryquackenbush8226
    @henryquackenbush8226 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

    In historical accounts men lost limbs from round balls in battle. It will turn a deer’s insides to jelly

    • @KCCereal
      @KCCereal หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      They usually lost limbs because they were chopped off by the doctor.

    • @henryquackenbush8226
      @henryquackenbush8226 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      @ yes because bones were shattered so bad . The medical records talk of totality splintered thigh and arm bones.

    • @nomnom7697
      @nomnom7697 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@henryquackenbush8226some of them also lost their limbs to cannon balls

    • @NorthRiverGuide
      @NorthRiverGuide หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They lost limbs because that was the medical science of the time period.
      Of the animals I've taken with my rifle with patched round balls, the wounds through the thoracic cavity weren't anything really special. 50cal hole in, inch hole out, around an inch and a quarter wound channel diameter.

    • @henryquackenbush8226
      @henryquackenbush8226 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ but shoot a leg or hip bone that’s were shit sprinters. Also some of old lead balls I’ve found did seen softer than ones today . You could bite one flat

  • @Nowlan-19
    @Nowlan-19 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ill never not be amazed by the beauty of fluid dynamics under high speed.

  • @83cable
    @83cable หลายเดือนก่อน

    My god! Never would have imagined that sort of damage from black powder weapons! Amazing! 😮

  • @LTCDRRAZOR
    @LTCDRRAZOR หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I was always taught that that second trigger was a “set trigger” that once fully cocked and pulled fully, would basically allow the front trigger to act like a hair trigger. Can someone help educate me?

    • @leechowning8728
      @leechowning8728 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      They are so use to the idea of a safety that they pretty much assumed there. No pre-smokeless powder weapon was designed with one.

    • @LTCDRRAZOR
      @LTCDRRAZOR หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@leechowning8728 to quote my old RDC (Navy for DI) safety = keeping your boogerhook off of the trigger.

    • @dbmwray
      @dbmwray หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hi there! Owner of the Flintlock rifle they used in this video.
      Looks like something got mistranslated along the way. You are correct in that the back trigger typically is a set trigger, which turns the pull into a hair-trigger pull.
      This is a kit built gun with a wildly sensitive front trigger. The back trigger in this specific firearm puts a safe amount of tension on the trigger and hammer. I’ve never disassembled the trigger on this gun to see what was causing this issue, as the gun has worked well enough for my purposes as long as I set the back trigger for safety.
      So for 99.9% of flintlock rifles out there, the back trigger IS a set-hair trigger. For this particular flintlock rifle, the back trigger IS a safety trigger. Kit-made guns can have some quirks.

    • @LTCDRRAZOR
      @LTCDRRAZOR หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dbmwray That clarifies a lot, heck I just finished a bp rifle myself. It was a fun experience. Though I went with blackening my brass and going blond for my wood.

  • @FUNKER530
    @FUNKER530 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    lol he said 'ramrod'

  • @chrisfelcyn7263
    @chrisfelcyn7263 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    20:29 How it feels to chew Five Gum

  • @darrelbakken3780
    @darrelbakken3780 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I like slow motion firearm videos, so thanks.
    Also, I did not read all the many comments, so maybe this is addressed already, but I offer these anyway.
    Yes, more "F's" is finer. The first er the powder the more surface area to volume, so finer powder burns faster. Thus FFFFg for prime burns fast, to get the ignition process going. Using FFFg or FFg slows the burn rate, which affects chamber pressure and projectile velicity.
    There have been extreme slow motion timed tests of flint locks looking at ignition speed. The prime does not need to be against the touch hole to ignite, it could be banked to the outside and the flame passing through the touch hole ignites the main load. That said, the testing showed that comparing banked away centered in pan and banked close, in all locks tested, banked close was always fastest.
    Also tested was flash hole position, slightly above top edge of pan, even with top edge which is called the sunset position and low in pan. All positions ignited well and all with powder close were fastest, this even for the low hole where banked close covered the touch hole.
    Thus many of the commonly professed "facts" were proven wrong by the high speed testing. You van find this if you search the National Muzzle loading rifle association web site.
    Lastly, the two triggers on the rifle are a set and main trigger. Gun can be fired with a heavier trigger pull using main trigger only, or if the set trigger is pulled first only a light touch on the main will fire the gun. Nice for precise target work.
    Thanks again for the videos.

  • @cholly890
    @cholly890 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like the way we can see the shadow of the sound wave as the ball traversed the white, graduated background. The speed of the ball could be estimated by measuring the angle of the sound wave and doing the appropriate calculation.

  • @junkerjunk
    @junkerjunk หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    When it's a double set trigger, the rear one is NOT the safety. Neither is the front one.

  • @ryanthomas2374
    @ryanthomas2374 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    4:45 what in the hell are you talking about!

  • @orellaminx3530
    @orellaminx3530 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Should do a comparion between regular musketballs and Minié balls.

  • @michaelmoore7198
    @michaelmoore7198 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Moving from Colorado to Fort Wayne this week, it's nice to know there are some folks like you there, been nervous about the move

  • @gunner45357308
    @gunner45357308 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As always a great video! One of the best on TH-cam!