Teaching Snowboarder First Frontside 180 On a Jump
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Watching someone learn along with their mistakes is the best way to teach, all good showing someone displaying perfect technique, but you learn so much more from this.
Well done on your first 180 and great video Kevin.
Well said!
How does watching someone learn along with their mistakes are the best way to teach?
@@cameronbateau6510 LOl tought the same. But I guess the person meant "it's the best way to learn.."
So satisfying to land a new trick 👏
First: I've only been in the park a handful of times and never 180d a jump, so to the student: good on you, you gave it a go, overcame your fears, and landed your first 180. Well done, keep having fun.
But... all the comments about the arm flap are beside the point because she is basically not doing the same thing on the jump that she was doing with the board off. Look closely at the footage. Timestamps in other comments will help, especially around 7:48.
1. She's way backfoot heavy on the approach.
2. Before even starting to ride up the kicker she has opened her shoulders and is facing forward. Her torso basically does not rotate the entire time until the board touches back down; there is no wind up whatsoever. She is doing the whole 180 with her hips and legs, it's pure counter rotation. That's why she's struggling to bring it around.
Peace.
You should ask her to do like 6 reps of 180 pop on the snowboard. Her frame is small and her muscle aren’t use to it, she needs to build her muscle memory to get it, and then make her practice setting up for the ramp.
Favorite one so far! Good attitude and solid coaching (patience) haha.
I appreciate that!
I can’t wait to try this out.
Hi Kevin, I saw that you’ll be there at Stubai Glacier from to day to Sunday. I’ll be there as well, I would be so happy to ride at least one run together. 😊
imo the biggest factors are how much air you catch, how confident you are at it, and how much time you have to perform the move. If you can't pop big air, it's a lot harder to learn your first in-air turn when you don't have time. Anyone can force a fast turn when they're good enough at it, but for beginners, time to execute it is important, and to do that you need a bigger jump, or be able to pop for huge air. I learned the hard way with small bumps, and once I hit the bigger jumps, there was soooo much more time to execute it felt easy.
When doing mine i foubd it easier to approach switch for some reason, felt more natural to rotate and land in my dominant foot again
Late premier! 2am in Australia. Good points in here, practice switch and dial that pop in…
at 7:57 I spotted a Tommie Bennett in the wild! lol
My friend who is instructor always repeats speed is your friend. This was unintuitive to me bcs is anted to do everything slow but the moment I resisted the fear everything was easier at speed.
Getting ready for my first season on a board. Once I get the basics down, how do I know when I’m ready to try some tricks?
when you loose control and regain it.....without reliazing you just accomplished another trick
try jumping across the hill repeatedly (it's a standard drill you can find on here). then off a side hit. go bigger until you can grab your board. once you're confident with that you can go for a straight air in the park if that's what you want to do.
if you want to learn spins you *really* need to learn switch, because you'll hurt yourself just hucking a 360.
personally i wouldn't bother learning switch 180, you'll be shit on the take off and you'll learn bad technique imo (swinging the back foot around rather than rotating correctly). and ultimately you want to be able to go from regular => switch and back again, so you have to learn it. i honestly don't think switch => regular helps much anyway, but I'm in the minority.
*put it this way, if you can 180 regular => switch you can do a 180 switch => regular. The reverse isn't true because landing switch is relatively hard, esp if you've a directional board
@@nickwoodward819 thanks man, I really appreciate the detailed response!
Just spend time and dial in your fundamentals first. Hit the mountain and carve regular and get GOOD at it. Then practice switch next. This will take time. Don’t expect to go boarding 5 times and then be ready to do 180s in the park. You’ll either get hurt, fall out of love with boarding, or you might be able to do them, but because your fundamentals are weak, it won’t look great. These things can’t be rushed, just appreciate a love for riding first and the rest will come when you’re ready :)
she has fighting spirit :D she is so cool and cute
Kelvin, why do I fall forward every time I jump? This is my second snow season this year.
Practice jumping on smaller side hits first
Been snowboarding for 20 years still dont have switch and 180s down do I just quit kev?
Haha, no you got time! Took me 20 years to try my first flip
maybe firtst learn riding switch bevor going to the 180s. just doesnt make sence since you have to ride it anyway after standing the 180
That arm flap thing will not help doing a 180 as the arms are moving in the completely wrong plane for a 180, you need to generate rotational movement by winding up with both arm across your body and releasing in a circular plane. That arm flap thing is a vertical movement and just overcomplicates what the girl is trying to actually do, it's completely unnecessary. I hope she hasn't paid for this session!
if someone had zero pop you'd encourage a movement to make them pop. regardless, whether you feel it or not you aren't winding up on a purely horizontal plane.
also, "I hope she hasn't paid for this session". wtf is this comment?
@@nickwoodward819 Flapping your arms like a chicken isn’t “pop” especially when you are trying to rotate and I hope she hasn’t paid for this “training” session. Don’t get me wrong, I like the SPC channel but the flapping thing is terrible for what the girl is trying to achieve.
@@nickwoodward819the progression should've been fs 180 across the slope to toe edge, then 180 on a side hit before taking it to a jump.
Shes not commiting with her back shoulder that becomes the front, which should've been pointed out. But you have an uncertified intermediate park rider teaching a beginner. So this is the result.
@@bukchoiiiyou're right, after watching it back you can definitely see the shoulder movement.... I also believe stuff like this is easier to notice when watched back compared to a someone in the moment.
timestamp for back shoulder reviewing 7:48.
it's almost as if it gets pulled back mid flight. Still tho good progress for her first 180 on a jump
@@xpanes001 look up Tommie bennet 180. Perfect breakdown of mechanics and using spine to engage the the motion. That's the difference between someone who is certified. She is effectively using rotation with no wind up, then blocking the spin, and then counter rotating to get it around. The best way is practicing switch 180 because it's easier for your body to commit going back to regular.
Doesn’t count