Thank you! My first scanner too and you cleared up so much! I think Einstar is lacking this kind of instruction and I'm glad you were there to fill in the gaps!
This video makes all the difference; thank you! This is my first time with a 3D scanner, and I was thinking you were supposed to try to get everything in one or two gos of the same view. The explanation of doing different scan projects and aligning the results to make a final output is eminently helpful!
Thanks for bringing this scanner to my attention. Looks to have a good amount of potential thanks to the included software. Looking forward to the next video showing the comparison to the others you've already reviewed.
Love the video, sir. I've got one coming in towards the middle of the week and was getting pretty worried about my laptop. I saw your comparison video between the 4 scanners first and you'd pointed out that you really needed a stronger machine for this scanner over the others and when I looked up the specs and saw that 11th gen chip in the recommended specs I was despairing about my laptop. It's not new, but I hadn't even though about the laptop. Now that I've seen the specs that your desktop has, I'm feeling a bit better. My laptop is running an 8th gen i7 with 32GB of RAM and a 2070 super, so I think it should at least be functional. Again, thanks for the video and the really digging in on it.
Wow! This scanner has some slick software and seems really user friendly. Great video! The section on scanning the front of the Mini and how the scanner can even find dents you don't know about would make for phenomenal short form content. Awesome work.
Final thoughts for Einstar. They need a macro mode or some such for close up shots of details. Would also be nice if they put the buttons on the side of the scanner so it's already where your hand wants to grip. Pushing on the back seems a bit awkward. Still looks like a great product overall.
I just swapped my CR Scan 01 for the Einstar and am absolutely loving it. It's so much faster than the creality scanners. I feel like the package is much nicer too. Cabling seems better with one connecting to the unit with a locking feature, I really like the silicone case, the whole thing feels much more "premium" than creality.
I dunno 🤷♂️. I mean I am working on it, editing furiously fast, I want it out ASAP because it builds momentum and the channel…. But you never know when work, sickness or divorce might get in the way…. So, in summary, as soon as possible! 🤷♂️😂
Looks good thanks for showing. Pc only though would make it a super expensive purchase though as I’d need a new PC. I got the Scan Lizard and it’s been incredible after some initial frustrations with the software which was due to the poor terminology/English translation. Big advantage of the Einscan is that it knows object position so scans will be correctly oriented when you bring it into Meshmixer, fusion etc. you can do that with scans with the Creality but they won’t be as accurately positioned as something done with Einscan.
Definitely waiting on the comparison. I have a pop 2 that I've had reasonable success with. Trying to scan large parts is a tiring process though. Also having to cover everything in chalk spray isn't ideal. Looks like the Revo might be the go for small mechanical parts and the einscan is be best for scanning larger parts like the engine bay and body panels. I've got a decent workshop with lathe, mill, mig, tig and 3d printer etc and still find it's often best to just cardboard template or make crude jigs for most large parts. Sadly it seems that often the traditional boring way of measuring and making parts is far more efficient than trying to digitise absolutely everything.
If you are dealing with something 2D and straight lines, cardboard is often the best way, definitely quickest but not sexy. I am working up the comparison now, but it’ll be a few more days!
Really neat scanner, unfortunately i have recently purchased the Revo point pop 2 (so, i'm not in the market to buy today), but i can see that this scanner is WAY ahead of the pop 2's capability. I will definitely consider this scanner for a future purchase. I'd like to see more offerings in this 'premium' end user space. But really nice product, thanks for the video!
Great review, very nice to see a real world part being scanned. I have an Einscan-SP and I love the software. It look a bit childish with big buttons and guiding you through the process a lot but it does a great job and it is truly a professional piece of software that is very easy to use. I don't need a larger format scanner today but I still remember how I was struggling with my first customer scan when my first scanner arrived. It seems like a good idea to buy one to be prepared for what is coming 😁 On of things I want to use this for is to scan bicycle frames that we make. The quality of the scans is (should be) good enough to validate if the frame is within spec but mainly to store a 3D model of each frame built for future reference (especially in case of a warranty issue when it is out of alignment). Regarding the system requirements: The order of video card, system RAM and CPU is indeed the order in which they need to be selected. Both the processor and the RAM on the video card are used for analyzing scan data and producing the point cloud (viewing and rotating the point cloud is just a small percentage of the power used). If your video card is too slow, the scanner will keep loosing alignment when moving around. Do go for at least 32 GB of system RAM, not less. Even though the system may run with 16 GB, you will hit memory limits when scanning larger models. Finally, the CPU needs to be able to move all that data around but this is more of a bottleneck during post processing than during scanning. I would not recommend any laptops for scanning, even if they do have a good video card, fast CPU and lots of memory. The problem with a laptop is cooling; as soon as you are post processing, the CPU load is heating up the processor and since a laptop is not that good at getting the heat out, the CPU is being throttled down.
@@MakingforMotorsport I got mine yesterday and did some test scans. I tried to look at the performance of the system while scanning but that is almost impossible. I should actually make a video of the scanning process to record what is happening with CPU, GPU and memory while scanning and meshing. I do have a fairly fast system (AMD Ryzen7 5800x @ 3800 MHz, 64 GB, GTX1060 with 6 GB and a Samsung 980 Pro SSD but there are some moments where I was wondering if it was still working ... I'd say that those small form factor PCs are more or less designed for office/desktop application and they will throttle down when more power is used (and thus more heat) to prevent overheating.
Finally some real-world use cases for this thing! I actually discovered your channel yesterday while searching for any decent review of the EinStar; what a fortuitous coincidence. Seems no one else wanted to commit the time to a proper full-detail scan so I can see what the unit is actually capable of if you're not just playing. Very much looking forward to the shootout vid. Cheers.
This guy does premium videos. You should definitely check his other videos out if you like motorsports and 3dmodeling/printing. One of the only channels I've ever cared to subscribe to
dont want to toot my own horn or simp too much, but i have been using a professional grade scanner for years and.... this is the first video i have ever seem where someone TRULY goes into the details of what it is like to 3D scan something, warts and all. I bet a lot of people would criticise this unit for how un-slick it seems compared to other devices, but a lot of the time those devices are not telling the truth about the process. the device seems capable, and so does the software. 10/10 review and overview.
Thanks for this its good and cheap scanner for using friendly and beginners.I got 128gb ram pc with 16 core i am waiting to see how will work on workstation
Loved this review! Have you ever tried using the Einstar on one of your bicycles? Very curious on how well it handles all the cavities/crevices and the shiny surfaces
Hi, I have been playing around with a Revopoint Mini that I have access to and able to get some decent results on small items. Similar to you I am more interested in automotive applications so this looks interesting for larger components. One thing I am definitely compromised with is laptop power. As its xmas I might just treat myself but not really sure on spec. I'd be interested in what you'd be looking for in a cad / scanning laptop spec wise....? Nice informative channel - I've been solidworks user for 20 years and now getting more into Fusion 360 so finding your Fusion stuff very useful also. Cheers
Fantastic review, I've been eyeballing this scanner for about 6 months and after borrowing and fighting with a couple of Revopoint's I think I'd be better off with the Einscan. Take my subscription, I am looking forward to your next videos!
Hi David. Love your channel. So helpful. I’m looking at making some carbon bits and I’m interested in your opinion. Would you say the Einstar provides sufficient accuracy for scanning bumpers to reverse engineer and design a splitter, for example. Any info would be great. Thank you!
This was a fantastic overview of the workflow with the einstar. The software looks like a dream to run (I have been using a Lizard) but oof those sysreqs
Yeah, I have had to upgrade my (admittedly cheapo eBay Frankenstein) PC which was okay for modelling and editing to get near this scanner…. And the Lizard I still rate, unfortunately I don’t think it’s an either/or, it might be both?? But the comparison video will clear that up…
@@MakingforMotorsport Searching for some videos I found my comment. I have no doubt that my purchase was an excellent choice. In small objects may be is no the best option but still does a decent job. Very but very happy.. Now i am aiming the one of 7000 usd...;)
Very interesting a scanner that for me would be ideal as i will need to scan my datson project to make some custom body work and with the advances in 3d printing machines this paired will be a great bit of kit.
I reckon the Einstar is a perfect piece of kit for that application… I am also expecting to review a fairly large format 3D printer in the near future that might match it perfectly!
I bought the einstar about a month or so ago. I was using it to scan my intake manifold so I can get proper dimensioning and bolt placement for my itb setup but shifted to focus on designing my headers, so I haven't been using it as of late really.. However, I was pretty impressed by the scanners capabilities. I need a bit more practice with it of course since I'm still new to the scan world but definitely a good entry level 3D scanner to me for a hobbyist guy.
So, I broke down and bought one of these; abandoning the XBox concept. Yeah; It's badass. going to be using it to scan my kid's VW MK2 GTI, along with a rear wheel arch (non-rotten) from the wrecking yard so that I can properly jig/place the replacement fuel-filler-neck-bracket back into his car. Now I'm scanning absolutely EVERY car part I have and this is fully part of my workflow now.
I am considering purchasing the Einstar3D scanner and your video helped answer a lot of questions about the capabilities of the unit. I would recommend that you go further upon obtaining a 3D scan of an object and demo how you would use it in a CAD program (Solidworks, Autodesk etc.).
Ive used the aerospace grade leica ones that take something like 2,000,000 points for an area around 12" squared. insane quality! 0.001" accuracy i believe
As always a great video! I look forward to your uploads! I have noticed that the scanners you’ve tried so far have been near a $1000 price point. This is out of reach for many people. Think you could try using an Xbox 360 Kinect as one of the comparison scanners in the next video? Would be great to see how much better the scan quality is compared to the high end ones!
There been a couple of people mentioned the Kinect, to be honest I think photogrammetry is a better option than a dirt cheap option, but a real budget method of scanning and getting a useful result is probably worth a video on its own…
@MakingforMotorsport looks like this will be of good use for making 3d printed tooling. Happy to collaborate in the new year if your interested 😁. Location Southampton 👍.
I played with the David Laser system many years ago without much luck. I keep watching and hoping someone would make something that would work well with tiny, 3D printable scans.
finaly a product thats close to the price range normal people can afford, looking forward to the scan off. it does look like the cable makes scanning every angle a bit hard, how long is it and can get you a longer one?
Hi i want to ask you if it can be used to scan a car to make structural modifications based on the holes than have the own car, on the screws or cutting the car to modify it, thanks!
When i saw their demo videos couple months ago i ordered right away and sent back creality lizard, unfortunately havent used it yet, but my intention is to scan cars
Buttons on the scanner are huge. Damn CR01 has you needing 3 hands between dragging the laptop around due to a short cord and having to keep an eye on the scan area, having a hand on the mouse to start the scan, and trying to watch your scanner distance.
I returned my Einstar after a week of testing and got a Einscan SP instead. It could not really scan a PS4 controller for example. Small object mode didn’t work at all too. For big parts or a scan car parts it’s a good scanner. Accuracy around 0.3mm.
@Manuel De Escayola I used Aesub and other 3D scanning sprays. I used a sheet of wood with scanner markers as well. I think the Einstar is a good scanner for bigger parts. But I needed more accuracy and fine detailed scans. The Einscan SP is much better for the stuff I have to scan. Like a Asher of a Audi A6, modifying it to have USB charging ports. (That was actually quite hard to make… scanned with Revopoint mini back than) Or a replacement part for a coffee machine. Broken stand on the water storage container.
Man that was one video I actually waited to the end to comment on, because I was doing a full "Matrix 3 Architect scene"...HAhaha. Looks like a quality company, that are world leaders in 3D scanning technology. The full car scans look full-on! Im keen to see accuracy comparisons between the different scanners. Pixologic ZBrush is a king amongst point-cloud re-meshing. I use it to clean up CT and MRI data sets...oh and photogrammetry. It has great tools to clean up the polygon soup, to create beautiful edge loop and perfect bolt holes. Best software I have ever purchased and Ive been a "3D modeler" for 23yrs. Zbrush is a 2.5D software, so GPU power is irrelevant. Its the RAM and CPU that are crucial...and lots of it. I just know Ill be watching this again. Take My Money!!!......HAHAHAH
Thanks for your great reviews and explanations, with this scanner and the CR-Scan Lizard. In this you showed scanning a large object like the front end of the Mini with the Einstar. Were you able to do the same with the CR-Scan Lizard (a process video would be great if so). Thanks!
@ ~22:00 you created a flat bottom on the hub, but didn't square the part to the grid. I'm assuming the hub face is 90 to the bottom of the hub, is there a way to do this? Great vid series, BTW!
This was a interesting and educational video, thank you. In your next set of tests, maybe you can try scanning a firearm, something dark or black in color and discuss the reasons and possible work-a rounds for the difficulties of the current scanners to scan dark colored objects. Without spraying a clients precious firearm with dry shampoo or other semi permanent marking technique I can only wait for the technology to catch up to this inconvenience. Maybe also discuss what would make future scanning devices better. For example, Ultra Violet, Infra red AND Sonic all in the same device. Keep up the great videos, and thank you!
Hi Don, I have a range of new scanners being tested so more conversation coming, but scanning a firearm isn’t something I can do because there aren’t many knocking about in the Uk! 😂
@@MakingforMotorsport, Hello from Las Vegas, Nevada, USA! Sure, I agree a firearm is hard to find, but maybe a piece of dark steel, a dull wrench, lead pipe, or maybe a toy painted shiny black, anything to mimic the color and textures of a firearm. Point being to see which, if any, of the current models can scan those colors and sheens, Just a conversation on what makers can do to improve the scan abilities and mesh qualities of dark items. Thanks again for the reply and keep up the awesome vids.
You make reference to "generating point cloud". From my LiDAR background I think you start with a point cloud, then generate a surface model. Am I incorrect?
Very well made video David! The quality on the upright wasn't so impressive compared to lizard scans, but the software and large scans seems leagues ahead, esp the software, lots of neat features.
Cheers Cedric, the Einstar is a different beast than the Lizard, it excels at large scans, but struggles at tripod distance, where the Lizard does it’s best work… I won’t be selling my Lizard that’s for sure…
@@MakingforMotorsport auto align that works, and actual settings for stuff, the software seems really nice though. I hope creality picks up some things there, without getting in court again😂
Thanks for the informative walk through. Where would you say lies the threshold to how reflective a material this Einstar can handle? I've once used the Creaform Metrascan, see that blue light laser can handle shiny stainless, hear it can even handle chrome. There's a hefty price tag to go along with that. This solution looks interesting, but need to know the constraints. Thanks.
Great video, many thanks but you missed the "guide" price out ?? i see them in the UK for about £1000 GBP. looking forward to your comparison video, Subbed 👍
Yeah, I just wanted this to be a “look at this” as I am assuming people thinking about buying one will come here. I will bring the prices into the comparison vid to gauge bang for buck 👍
Great video. Do you have any experience with the higher end Einscan models like the Pro 2x? I wonder how they compare, particularly in accuracy and speed. I'm seeing them used around 3000-4000€.
Great work! I recently (as in still returnable) picked up the Revopoint POP2 for scanning car parts. It's seemed to be the best bang for the buck, at the time. Until your video made me rethink my choice. The first thing I noticed about the POP 2 was the that it wanted an ideal distance, which was pretty close, between it and the item being scanned. Considering that I'll be scanning sizable automotive elements, from uprights to unibody frame sections, would you recommend the Einstar? Now the challenge is that I have this wicked MacBook M1 Pro with 32GB of RAM and 19 GPUs, which the Einstar doesn't seem to support. Ug. 🤦🏼 Looking forward to the next video with product comparisons.
Hi there… the comparison should be out next week… but I’ll let you have a sneak peak… For the things you mentioned, yes the Einstar is the best of scanners I’ve used and in user experience general is different league compared to anything else I have tried. The downside of the Einstar is the small objects, (down to 4 or 5 inches), it works but then the CR-Lizard and Pop2 take over. And the MacBook well… lovely piece of kit but the world of Engineering runs on Windows (plus the Einstar really wants an NVIDIA GPU)…😬🤷♂️
@@MakingforMotorsport Thanks, mate! Good to know. I have a mate with a few NVIDIA RTX 3090's from an old miner. I think he mite spare one for a pint or two. But, I think it speaks to the Einstar's capabilities if it requires such hardware, compared to the POP 2, which runs off my iPhone. 🤔 Thanks again! Looking forward to the next vid. Cheers!
@@MakingforMotorsport its good for small parts etc, but will get lost on body panels and i tried everything that i could find :D when i saw that this thing came out i knew that it will be much better with that FOV on body parts, i was just waiting for someone to test it like this. :D sadly there is rly small market for hobby 3d scanners so it may take a while till i sell the pop :D
@@MakingforMotorsport thank you again for this video, my einstar just showed up, its crazy how "easy" it is to scan car parts with it compared to pop2, you can see the build quality from reputable manufacturer
@Making for Motorsport Dave, you mentioned the Lizard and Pop2 are are better for smaller objects. Is the accuracy better or is there better point density? Can you scan several objects with known dimensions to get an idea of the accuracy? I'm looking to do some bootleg metrology and your videos are exactly the information I need. Looking forward to your comparison video.
What? Scan a known object?? With different scanners… what like a 123 block with a CR-scan01, Lizard, Pop2 and the Einstar??? That’s exactly what I’ve done… out on Thursday! 😁
I got to thinking about 3d scanning for.automotive purposes the other day after doing a tremendous amount of research on home wheel alignment methods. Not suggesting it would be quicker or easier than established methods, but shouldn't a 3d scan be able to give you a very accurate read on toe and camber with a single scan?
Hmmm…. I know they use 3D scanning in F1 to assess for body damage, but they were still using string line etc up until recently…. It’s a little tricky, in theory you have the accuracy in the scanners but as you have to go round the car, in reality you’ll loose accuracy and the scan will drift… could be done yes…. “Should” be done ??? Maybe not…
I saw this and wondered if this is the best solution to get a Renault Zoe into cad so I can print some arches. Dropped you an email! Love the work, much appreciated.
I got a revopoint pop 1 last year, and had nothing but frustration with it....litterally hours of frustration from losing tracking and not picking up where it left off to a total lack of being able to align models. It has remained in the box since as a result and I basically see it as a bad waste of money. Every time you would reach a point where I had difficulty with the pop, and the ease of which this scanner had no difficulty doing what would have been impossible with the pop, I remarked to myself that this is the scanner to own. The biggest plus with this is the quality and ease with the processing software. Light years ahead of the pop! Your point about accuracy and specs taking a backseat to ease of use and especally with the software is spot on. Great review and particually because I'm a car guy and the uses you are using it for are precisely what I will be using it for, so that gave extra value to your video. Great Work!
Yeah, you’re not the only one having some issues with the Pop, but you can say the same for pretty much all scanners. For car bits, this scanners is pretty much the choice….
Looks pretty good, maybe a software dunce like myself could even use it and get decent results for medium object scanning, very impressed with the car scanning result. Unfortunalely I just checked my laptop RAM and I only have 8gb RAM, so guessing this scanner wouldnt work with my laptop as it needs 16GB to run it????
Great content. Do you think that the software can work also on Mac OS? Or perhaps on the latest Mac mini with Win10 installed? Is it powerful enough?What do you think. Thanks. Happy Holidays.
Very cool tool and demo. Can it add selected dimensioning? Can it clean uo and dimension holes? Can it add joint lines between multiple attached parts i.e. the hub intersection with the Steering Knuckle?
The software can do dimensioning in the software and add planes and such, but if you really want all that info you need to do Reverse Engineering… I have a vid on that
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Thank you! My first scanner too and you cleared up so much! I think Einstar is lacking this kind of instruction and I'm glad you were there to fill in the gaps!
Glad i saw your video. This will definitely be a new addon to my VR AR collective.. and I'm actually blown away at the attainable price
This video makes all the difference; thank you! This is my first time with a 3D scanner, and I was thinking you were supposed to try to get everything in one or two gos of the same view. The explanation of doing different scan projects and aligning the results to make a final output is eminently helpful!
Glad I could help!
What a great review, thank you! Have wanted a good scanner for a long time and this is hard to beat
forget the product this is a quality review
Cheers bud!!
The meat riding is at an all time high.
Great video, especially taking us along the full process 👍 Very very much looking forward to your scanner shootout video 😊
Cheers buddy, the comparison is already in the works!
Lovely review! Loved both videos of Revopoint POP3 and this one. Realy nice real life tests. Thanks!
Thanks for bringing this scanner to my attention. Looks to have a good amount of potential thanks to the included software. Looking forward to the next video showing the comparison to the others you've already reviewed.
No problem Drippy… working on the comparison vid now!
Love the video, sir. I've got one coming in towards the middle of the week and was getting pretty worried about my laptop. I saw your comparison video between the 4 scanners first and you'd pointed out that you really needed a stronger machine for this scanner over the others and when I looked up the specs and saw that 11th gen chip in the recommended specs I was despairing about my laptop. It's not new, but I hadn't even though about the laptop. Now that I've seen the specs that your desktop has, I'm feeling a bit better. My laptop is running an 8th gen i7 with 32GB of RAM and a 2070 super, so I think it should at least be functional.
Again, thanks for the video and the really digging in on it.
Just wow. Thank you for your efforts. This may change our lives
This was a great video very well done, first video of yours I have seen and it was a awesome review well done!
Subscribed!
Great video as always! Tons of great tidbits in there like the computer requirements. Can't wait to see the scan-off!!
Just climbing that editing mountain right now…. The peak is in sight!!!
Very good video! Thanks from Brazil
You make 3D scanning so simple, thank you very good job.
Thank you very much!
Absolutely nice review. I just placed an order for my company. We want to use it to scan for rail profile.
Thanks, this is so interesting. Will be watching with interest the remaining of this series with the Einstar.
Glad you enjoyed it!
good job!!!! well worth the time to sit through
I have been looking to do this exact process so your video has been very helpful. I am looking forward to the comparison video.
So am I… hope you have hit the bell so you know when it’s come out…!
Just picked up a Revopoint Pop2, excited to start playing with it. Your videos are extremely helpful!
Have fun with it! It’s a great tool! You got that MR2 back together?
@@MakingforMotorsport Yes, and then no again...
Oh man…. Project cars suck… and they are great…. But also suck….
Wow! This scanner has some slick software and seems really user friendly. Great video! The section on scanning the front of the Mini and how the scanner can even find dents you don't know about would make for phenomenal short form content. Awesome work.
Final thoughts for Einstar. They need a macro mode or some such for close up shots of details. Would also be nice if they put the buttons on the side of the scanner so it's already where your hand wants to grip. Pushing on the back seems a bit awkward. Still looks like a great product overall.
Yeah the ergonomics let the product down, but people are 3D printing handles already so that side might be fixed…
Short form content you say??? 🧐🧐🧐😚
@@MakingforMotorsport Sent you a bunch of messages on Instagram. 🤭
@@802Garage just sent some back, cheers dude….
Great video, thanks for sharing!
Thank you twice: for the video and for the discount. I just bought one :)
I just swapped my CR Scan 01 for the Einstar and am absolutely loving it. It's so much faster than the creality scanners. I feel like the package is much nicer too. Cabling seems better with one connecting to the unit with a locking feature, I really like the silicone case, the whole thing feels much more "premium" than creality.
It does make the others seem like toys, but you’ll see from the shoot out, the Einstar isn’t the best at everything!
This einstar just kill all scanner 3D around 800-1000 dollars. I have one and I also love !!!
@@leonardoalexandrevieira7170 not really. But it’s a good scanner for a good price point and impressive software that’s true. 👍
@@MakingforMotorsport In about how many days will this video come?
I dunno 🤷♂️. I mean I am working on it, editing furiously fast, I want it out ASAP because it builds momentum and the channel…. But you never know when work, sickness or divorce might get in the way…. So, in summary, as soon as possible! 🤷♂️😂
Looks good thanks for showing. Pc only though would make it a super expensive purchase though as I’d need a new PC. I got the Scan Lizard and it’s been incredible after some initial frustrations with the software which was due to the poor terminology/English translation. Big advantage of the Einscan is that it knows object position so scans will be correctly oriented when you bring it into Meshmixer, fusion etc. you can do that with scans with the Creality but they won’t be as accurately positioned as something done with Einscan.
Definitely waiting on the comparison. I have a pop 2 that I've had reasonable success with. Trying to scan large parts is a tiring process though. Also having to cover everything in chalk spray isn't ideal.
Looks like the Revo might be the go for small mechanical parts and the einscan is be best for scanning larger parts like the engine bay and body panels.
I've got a decent workshop with lathe, mill, mig, tig and 3d printer etc and still find it's often best to just cardboard template or make crude jigs for most large parts.
Sadly it seems that often the traditional boring way of measuring and making parts is far more efficient than trying to digitise absolutely everything.
If you are dealing with something 2D and straight lines, cardboard is often the best way, definitely quickest but not sexy.
I am working up the comparison now, but it’ll be a few more days!
Many thanks for your video ! Now I can start with my scanner 😀
Have fun!!!
Really neat scanner, unfortunately i have recently purchased the Revo point pop 2 (so, i'm not in the market to buy today), but i can see that this scanner is WAY ahead of the pop 2's capability. I will definitely consider this scanner for a future purchase.
I'd like to see more offerings in this 'premium' end user space. But really nice product, thanks for the video!
Same!
Great work thanks for the videos
Thank you. Saw this and ordered the scanner :)
Great review, very nice to see a real world part being scanned. I have an Einscan-SP and I love the software. It look a bit childish with big buttons and guiding you through the process a lot but it does a great job and it is truly a professional piece of software that is very easy to use.
I don't need a larger format scanner today but I still remember how I was struggling with my first customer scan when my first scanner arrived. It seems like a good idea to buy one to be prepared for what is coming 😁
On of things I want to use this for is to scan bicycle frames that we make. The quality of the scans is (should be) good enough to validate if the frame is within spec but mainly to store a 3D model of each frame built for future reference (especially in case of a warranty issue when it is out of alignment).
Regarding the system requirements: The order of video card, system RAM and CPU is indeed the order in which they need to be selected. Both the processor and the RAM on the video card are used for analyzing scan data and producing the point cloud (viewing and rotating the point cloud is just a small percentage of the power used). If your video card is too slow, the scanner will keep loosing alignment when moving around. Do go for at least 32 GB of system RAM, not less. Even though the system may run with 16 GB, you will hit memory limits when scanning larger models. Finally, the CPU needs to be able to move all that data around but this is more of a bottleneck during post processing than during scanning.
I would not recommend any laptops for scanning, even if they do have a good video card, fast CPU and lots of memory. The problem with a laptop is cooling; as soon as you are post processing, the CPU load is heating up the processor and since a laptop is not that good at getting the heat out, the CPU is being throttled down.
Yeah, I don’t know if a small form factor PC with a “van-life” style battery power unit would be the best option…
@@MakingforMotorsport I got mine yesterday and did some test scans. I tried to look at the performance of the system while scanning but that is almost impossible.
I should actually make a video of the scanning process to record what is happening with CPU, GPU and memory while scanning and meshing. I do have a fairly fast system (AMD Ryzen7 5800x @ 3800 MHz, 64 GB, GTX1060 with 6 GB and a Samsung 980 Pro SSD but there are some moments where I was wondering if it was still working ...
I'd say that those small form factor PCs are more or less designed for office/desktop application and they will throttle down when more power is used (and thus more heat) to prevent overheating.
@@Rob_65 I am just trying to avoid flopping down £2,000 on a laptop, which I know I will need to duplicate with a desktop aswell…🤷♂️
Finally some real-world use cases for this thing! I actually discovered your channel yesterday while searching for any decent review of the EinStar; what a fortuitous coincidence.
Seems no one else wanted to commit the time to a proper full-detail scan so I can see what the unit is actually capable of if you're not just playing. Very much looking forward to the shootout vid. Cheers.
It’s been weeks in the making this one… glad you enjoyed it!
And thanks for the SuperThanks bud!! Thanks for supporting the channel…
This guy does premium videos. You should definitely check his other videos out if you like motorsports and 3dmodeling/printing. One of the only channels I've ever cared to subscribe to
dont want to toot my own horn or simp too much, but i have been using a professional grade scanner for years and.... this is the first video i have ever seem where someone TRULY goes into the details of what it is like to 3D scan something, warts and all. I bet a lot of people would criticise this unit for how un-slick it seems compared to other devices, but a lot of the time those devices are not telling the truth about the process. the device seems capable, and so does the software. 10/10 review and overview.
Cheers buddy…
Great content as always!!
Cheers Bud! Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for this its good and cheap scanner for using friendly and beginners.I got 128gb ram pc with 16 core i am waiting to see how will work on workstation
Loved this review! Have you ever tried using the Einstar on one of your bicycles? Very curious on how well it handles all the cavities/crevices and the shiny surfaces
Hi, I have been playing around with a Revopoint Mini that I have access to and able to get some decent results on small items. Similar to you I am more interested in automotive applications so this looks interesting for larger components. One thing I am definitely compromised with is laptop power. As its xmas I might just treat myself but not really sure on spec. I'd be interested in what you'd be looking for in a cad / scanning laptop spec wise....? Nice informative channel - I've been solidworks user for 20 years and now getting more into Fusion 360 so finding your Fusion stuff very useful also. Cheers
Awesome stuff, thanks for the video.
No problem bud!
Fantastic review, I've been eyeballing this scanner for about 6 months and after borrowing and fighting with a couple of Revopoint's I think I'd be better off with the Einscan.
Take my subscription, I am looking forward to your next videos!
Thanks Edward, welcome along!
Great Content
Thank you for the video. Can't wait to see the others. It looks good but can't wait to see which one is rated best bang for the buck
Yeah, cost will come into the comparison as it does in real life… I’d say all the scanners have plus and minuses….
@@MakingforMotorsport I want to purchase one of them before the end of the year for my business
I’m gonna get the vid out asap bud, hopefully about a week! 🤞
Hi David. Love your channel. So helpful. I’m looking at making some carbon bits and I’m interested in your opinion. Would you say the Einstar provides sufficient accuracy for scanning bumpers to reverse engineer and design a splitter, for example. Any info would be great. Thank you!
thanks for the review! The next project is to print a handle for it perhaps?!
There are others who have, so I’ll likely just steal shamelessly!!! 😂
Got a mini that is feeling alittle lonely 😬
This was a fantastic overview of the workflow with the einstar. The software looks like a dream to run (I have been using a Lizard) but oof those sysreqs
Yeah, I have had to upgrade my (admittedly cheapo eBay Frankenstein) PC which was okay for modelling and editing to get near this scanner….
And the Lizard I still rate, unfortunately I don’t think it’s an either/or, it might be both?? But the comparison video will clear that up…
Great info. Thanks foe that video. What is the smallest size object you can scan?
Great demonstration man. Legend
Cheers bud!
thank you so much for telling us about the computer requirements. I feel like i never see that.
It’s a definite thing to consider, the others can cope with lower hardware, Einstar… not so much!
I bought it 3 weeks ago and I did not test it yet.....seeing this video i know for sure I will have a lot of fun with it
You are in for a treat….
@@MakingforMotorsport Searching for some videos I found my comment. I have no doubt that my purchase was an excellent choice. In small objects may be is no the best option but still does a decent job. Very but very happy.. Now i am aiming the one of 7000 usd...;)
Very interesting a scanner that for me would be ideal as i will need to scan my datson project to make some custom body work and with the advances in 3d printing machines this paired will be a great bit of kit.
I reckon the Einstar is a perfect piece of kit for that application… I am also expecting to review a fairly large format 3D printer in the near future that might match it perfectly!
I bought the einstar about a month or so ago. I was using it to scan my intake manifold so I can get proper dimensioning and bolt placement for my itb setup but shifted to focus on designing my headers, so I haven't been using it as of late really.. However, I was pretty impressed by the scanners capabilities. I need a bit more practice with it of course since I'm still new to the scan world but definitely a good entry level 3D scanner to me for a hobbyist guy.
You also got the same turn table I got too 🤣🤣🤣
It’s a proper piece of kit that’s for sure 👍
What turntable is that I can see at 27.37? Looks like a better and bigger option than the supplied lizard one for sure!
So, I broke down and bought one of these; abandoning the XBox concept. Yeah; It's badass. going to be using it to scan my kid's VW MK2 GTI, along with a rear wheel arch (non-rotten) from the wrecking yard so that I can properly jig/place the replacement fuel-filler-neck-bracket back into his car. Now I'm scanning absolutely EVERY car part I have and this is fully part of my workflow now.
How have you been liking it? I think I'm about to buy one of these. They still seem to be the best product for the price a year later.
Fantastic review!!!
Cheers bud, glad you enjoyed it!
I am considering purchasing the Einstar3D scanner and your video helped answer a lot of questions about the capabilities of the unit. I would recommend that you go further upon obtaining a 3D scan of an object and demo how you would use it in a CAD program (Solidworks, Autodesk etc.).
Already done it bud! Check out my Reverse Engineering video 👍
wow what and amazing bit of kit - great review
Thanks Kevin… these boxes of tricks seem to be my calling card now🤷♂️. They are practically witchcraft.. it’s great!
I have the Lizard and the einstar, the calibration card was a win for me along with the software
The calibration card is handy, not having to worry about calibration files. For my they match nicely the Lizard and the Einstar…
How big were the save files of the brake and car?
Ive used the aerospace grade leica ones that take something like 2,000,000 points for an area around 12" squared. insane quality! 0.001" accuracy i believe
As always a great video! I look forward to your uploads!
I have noticed that the scanners you’ve tried so far have been near a $1000 price point. This is out of reach for many people.
Think you could try using an Xbox 360 Kinect as one of the comparison scanners in the next video? Would be great to see how much better the scan quality is compared to the high end ones!
There been a couple of people mentioned the Kinect, to be honest I think photogrammetry is a better option than a dirt cheap option, but a real budget method of scanning and getting a useful result is probably worth a video on its own…
@@MakingforMotorsport it’s a video I’d look forward to! Thanks for the reply!
Thanks man! Been waiting to buy a scanner but wanted to know how this one worked before I bit the bullet.
You’ll be wanting to watch the Scanner shootout video, coming soon!!!
Awesome cheers for the review
It’s why I’m here! 😀
@MakingforMotorsport looks like this will be of good use for making 3d printed tooling. Happy to collaborate in the new year if your interested 😁.
Location Southampton 👍.
I played with the David Laser system many years ago without much luck. I keep watching and hoping someone would make something that would work well with tiny, 3D printable scans.
If you want tiny, RevoPoint Mini is the tool…
finaly a product thats close to the price range normal people can afford, looking forward to the scan off. it does look like the cable makes scanning every angle a bit hard, how long is it and can get you a longer one?
Hi i want to ask you if it can be used to scan a car to make structural modifications based on the holes than have the own car, on the screws or cutting the car to modify it, thanks!
When i saw their demo videos couple months ago i ordered right away and sent back creality lizard, unfortunately havent used it yet, but my intention is to scan cars
I hope you plan to test the Revo point Range. I need this type of review from the perspective of automotive scans.
What is on his desk plugged into the computer, it has a knob and some buttons?
How would this work for scanning a Motocross helmet or boots and turning them into a 3D model. What’s the best 3D scanner for this scenario cheers
Buttons on the scanner are huge. Damn CR01 has you needing 3 hands between dragging the laptop around due to a short cord and having to keep an eye on the scan area, having a hand on the mouse to start the scan, and trying to watch your scanner distance.
I returned my Einstar after a week of testing and got a Einscan SP instead. It could not really scan a PS4 controller for example. Small object mode didn’t work at all too.
For big parts or a scan car parts it’s a good scanner. Accuracy around 0.3mm.
@Manuel De Escayola I used Aesub and other 3D scanning sprays.
I used a sheet of wood with scanner markers as well.
I think the Einstar is a good scanner for bigger parts.
But I needed more accuracy and fine detailed scans. The Einscan SP is much better for the stuff I have to scan.
Like a Asher of a Audi A6, modifying it to have USB charging ports. (That was actually quite hard to make… scanned with Revopoint mini back than)
Or a replacement part for a coffee machine. Broken stand on the water storage container.
Awe dang! I just got a POP2 only a couple months ago. It seems to work "alright", but this looks like a much better option. Might have to upgrade.
Hold up for the comparison video, the Pop2 is still a decent tool…. There are no “magic” options at this price range
I'd love to see a comparison between this and the revopoint range + new revoscan 5 software. I just can't find one and you seem to be the man.
Yes mate… I wish I was… they have promised me one… haven’t had it yet! 🤷♂️
Man that was one video I actually waited to the end to comment on, because I was doing a full "Matrix 3 Architect scene"...HAhaha.
Looks like a quality company, that are world leaders in 3D scanning technology.
The full car scans look full-on!
Im keen to see accuracy comparisons between the different scanners.
Pixologic ZBrush is a king amongst point-cloud re-meshing.
I use it to clean up CT and MRI data sets...oh and photogrammetry.
It has great tools to clean up the polygon soup, to create beautiful edge loop and perfect bolt holes.
Best software I have ever purchased and Ive been a "3D modeler" for 23yrs.
Zbrush is a 2.5D software, so GPU power is irrelevant. Its the RAM and CPU that are crucial...and lots of it.
I just know Ill be watching this again.
Take My Money!!!......HAHAHAH
WOW Amazing, how clean your garage is ; )
Painting the floor has made a huge difference!
Thanks for your great reviews and explanations, with this scanner and the CR-Scan Lizard. In this you showed scanning a large object like the front end of the Mini with the Einstar. Were you able to do the same with the CR-Scan Lizard (a process video would be great if so). Thanks!
I have a comparison vid out soon where I do exactly that… unfortunately at that particular scan the Lizard doesn’t fair too well 😬🤷♂️
@@MakingforMotorsport Interesting, I look forward to seeing the comparison (and if I will need to seriously consider making a switch)!
@ ~22:00 you created a flat bottom on the hub, but didn't square the part to the grid. I'm assuming the hub face is 90 to the bottom of the hub, is there a way to do this? Great vid series, BTW!
Thank you for the video , you made me order one 😅
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This was a interesting and educational video, thank you. In your next set of tests, maybe you can try scanning a firearm, something dark or black in color and discuss the reasons and possible work-a rounds for the difficulties of the current scanners to scan dark colored objects. Without spraying a clients precious firearm with dry shampoo or other semi permanent marking technique I can only wait for the technology to catch up to this inconvenience. Maybe also discuss what would make future scanning devices better. For example, Ultra Violet, Infra red AND Sonic all in the same device. Keep up the great videos, and thank you!
Hi Don, I have a range of new scanners being tested so more conversation coming, but scanning a firearm isn’t something I can do because there aren’t many knocking about in the Uk! 😂
@@MakingforMotorsport, Hello from Las Vegas, Nevada, USA! Sure, I agree a firearm is hard to find, but maybe a piece of dark steel, a dull wrench, lead pipe, or maybe a toy painted shiny black, anything to mimic the color and textures of a firearm. Point being to see which, if any, of the current models can scan those colors and sheens, Just a conversation on what makers can do to improve the scan abilities and mesh qualities of dark items. Thanks again for the reply and keep up the awesome vids.
hello!
the video is cool. Is the accuracy good?
It would be nice to compare to the shinning SP or SE. How good is the accuracy when you compare to a measured feature with calipers?
Ooooh… that’s coming in the next video😉
Great Review can it be used with Mac OS operating system?
You make reference to "generating point cloud". From my LiDAR background I think you start with a point cloud, then generate a surface model. Am I incorrect?
Hi, may I know how long did you took for the car scanned and to process the file?
Very well made video David! The quality on the upright wasn't so impressive compared to lizard scans, but the software and large scans seems leagues ahead, esp the software, lots of neat features.
Cheers Cedric, the Einstar is a different beast than the Lizard, it excels at large scans, but struggles at tripod distance, where the Lizard does it’s best work… I won’t be selling my Lizard that’s for sure…
@@MakingforMotorsport auto align that works, and actual settings for stuff, the software seems really nice though. I hope creality picks up some things there, without getting in court again😂
@@garagecedric that would be nice! Enough court cases for one life time!
good job
yup! looks like the software is getting better! good luck with it!! U can easily make out, that its a ''cast'' product!!
This software seems to be essentially the same as the Einscan range which are thousands of dollars… it works well!
Thanks for the informative walk through. Where would you say lies the threshold to how reflective a material this Einstar can handle? I've once used the Creaform Metrascan, see that blue light laser can handle shiny stainless, hear it can even handle chrome. There's a hefty price tag to go along with that. This solution looks interesting, but need to know the constraints. Thanks.
It is better than most, but it still can’t handle full reflective surfaces.
Great video, many thanks but you missed the "guide" price out ?? i see them in the UK for about £1000 GBP. looking forward to your comparison video, Subbed 👍
Yeah, I just wanted this to be a “look at this” as I am assuming people thinking about buying one will come here.
I will bring the prices into the comparison vid to gauge bang for buck 👍
Great video. Do you have any experience with the higher end Einscan models like the Pro 2x? I wonder how they compare, particularly in accuracy and speed. I'm seeing them used around 3000-4000€.
No hands on experience sorry… I have heard they are good…
Great work! I recently (as in still returnable) picked up the Revopoint POP2 for scanning car parts. It's seemed to be the best bang for the buck, at the time. Until your video made me rethink my choice. The first thing I noticed about the POP 2 was the that it wanted an ideal distance, which was pretty close, between it and the item being scanned. Considering that I'll be scanning sizable automotive elements, from uprights to unibody frame sections, would you recommend the Einstar? Now the challenge is that I have this wicked MacBook M1 Pro with 32GB of RAM and 19 GPUs, which the Einstar doesn't seem to support. Ug. 🤦🏼 Looking forward to the next video with product comparisons.
Hi there… the comparison should be out next week… but I’ll let you have a sneak peak…
For the things you mentioned, yes the Einstar is the best of scanners I’ve used and in user experience general is different league compared to anything else I have tried.
The downside of the Einstar is the small objects, (down to 4 or 5 inches), it works but then the CR-Lizard and Pop2 take over.
And the MacBook well… lovely piece of kit but the world of Engineering runs on Windows (plus the Einstar really wants an NVIDIA GPU)…😬🤷♂️
@@MakingforMotorsport Thanks, mate! Good to know. I have a mate with a few NVIDIA RTX 3090's from an old miner. I think he mite spare one for a pint or two. But, I think it speaks to the Einstar's capabilities if it requires such hardware, compared to the POP 2, which runs off my iPhone. 🤔
Thanks again! Looking forward to the next vid. Cheers!
I feel like you can 3d print a handle for the device to make it more comfortable in the hand after long periods of time
Finally someone that tried it on car parts, at the moment i have the Revo pop 2, and it cant get any body parts done. Gonna sell it and upgrade :)
Yeah, the pop2 ain’t the best for body parts, it can work, but you need every trick in the book…. Einstar eats it!
@@MakingforMotorsport its good for small parts etc, but will get lost on body panels and i tried everything that i could find :D when i saw that this thing came out i knew that it will be much better with that FOV on body parts, i was just waiting for someone to test it like this. :D sadly there is rly small market for hobby 3d scanners so it may take a while till i sell the pop :D
@@MakingforMotorsport thank you again for this video, my einstar just showed up, its crazy how "easy" it is to scan car parts with it compared to pop2, you can see the build quality from reputable manufacturer
It does just work. The others can work, and you can get good results from them… but the Einstar just works…
@Making for Motorsport Dave, you mentioned the Lizard and Pop2 are are better for smaller objects. Is the accuracy better or is there better point density? Can you scan several objects with known dimensions to get an idea of the accuracy? I'm looking to do some bootleg metrology and your videos are exactly the information I need. Looking forward to your comparison video.
What? Scan a known object?? With different scanners… what like a 123 block with a CR-scan01, Lizard, Pop2 and the Einstar???
That’s exactly what I’ve done… out on Thursday! 😁
I got to thinking about 3d scanning for.automotive purposes the other day after doing a tremendous amount of research on home wheel alignment methods. Not suggesting it would be quicker or easier than established methods, but shouldn't a 3d scan be able to give you a very accurate read on toe and camber with a single scan?
Hmmm…. I know they use 3D scanning in F1 to assess for body damage, but they were still using string line etc up until recently….
It’s a little tricky, in theory you have the accuracy in the scanners but as you have to go round the car, in reality you’ll loose accuracy and the scan will drift… could be done yes…. “Should” be done ??? Maybe not…
Do you have a video on the system requirement? Or recommendations?
I saw this and wondered if this is the best solution to get a Renault Zoe into cad so I can print some arches. Dropped you an email!
Love the work, much appreciated.
Thumbs up! And not just for that Superfast Matt video in the background ;)
Trust in the algorithm and it shall provide! (Oh, and hail it aswell! 😉)
I got a revopoint pop 1 last year, and had nothing but frustration with it....litterally hours of frustration from losing tracking and not picking up where it left off to a total lack of being able to align models. It has remained in the box since as a result and I basically see it as a bad waste of money. Every time you would reach a point where I had difficulty with the pop, and the ease of which this scanner had no difficulty doing what would have been impossible with the pop, I remarked to myself that this is the scanner to own. The biggest plus with this is the quality and ease with the processing software. Light years ahead of the pop! Your point about accuracy and specs taking a backseat to ease of use and especally with the software is spot on. Great review and particually because I'm a car guy and the uses you are using it for are precisely what I will be using it for, so that gave extra value to your video. Great Work!
Yeah, you’re not the only one having some issues with the Pop, but you can say the same for pretty much all scanners. For car bits, this scanners is pretty much the choice….
Hello ! Thank you for the video ! Can i ask what is the output texture resolution of the oil canister ?
It was scanned at 0.5mm but I don’t know about the resolution of the testure
what mode did you use on scanning the Mini ?
Looks pretty good, maybe a software dunce like myself could even use it and get decent results for medium object scanning, very impressed with the car scanning result.
Unfortunalely I just checked my laptop RAM and I only have 8gb RAM, so guessing this scanner wouldnt work with my laptop as it needs 16GB to run it????
Great content. Do you think that the software can work also on Mac OS? Or perhaps on the latest Mac mini with Win10 installed? Is it powerful enough?What do you think. Thanks. Happy Holidays.
Happy holidays to you!! Unfortunately the Einstar software is Windows only 😬🤷♂️
Very cool tool and demo. Can it add selected dimensioning? Can it clean uo and dimension holes? Can it add joint lines between multiple attached parts i.e. the hub intersection with the Steering Knuckle?
The software can do dimensioning in the software and add planes and such, but if you really want all that info you need to do Reverse Engineering… I have a vid on that