This seems better than Cosworth kit. The nearest official Cosowrth dealer is asking for a silly high price tag for Stage 2.3, he is asking for 16K USD including installation and the standard tune re-flashed! not even a custom tune option available! I'll buy this kit instead and hand it over to a custom tuner. looks cleaner with the front throttle placement.
+michael w if I remember right, Cosworth will make ~280 HP at the crank... I asked them how much will it make at the wheels, I never got an answer. this one will make 244 with out an exhaust manifold and a catback. (if I understood them right)
The Cosworth makes 250 at the wheels with their full exhaust from what people say when they dyno them. I still think they are roughly on par with each other. However, it doesn't mean I think one is better than the other and blah blah blah. haha I like both.
The Cosworth SC makes aroudn 250 at the wheels and is deemed the max the stock rods can make. Its capable of 400hp just liek the Harrop with smaller pullies. Both share the same 1.4Bar max boost rating. I have a track buddie who has this kit. In standard form my intake temps are +15C his Harrop is +25C so the Cosworth has the nod for low intake temps which will really come into play when people start pushing 350+ hp.
Should've had the coolant hoses come out the back. Little too much clutter in my opinion. I'm interested to see how well this kit cools the air compared to the Edelbrock and Cosworth kits.
Amazing. Just what I like to see. Subscribed. What was the compression dropped to with the forged setup? And is there a possibility to reliably increase the power even more than what you got on the forged setup?
I admit it is really cool, but there's a big problem here: Because of the higher compression of the N/A engine, you can never get to the full performance potential of a factory boosted car without building the bottom end too, which becomes really expensive. So you pay full price on the parts to only get part of the performance potential. Then when you resell the car, you never get a good price compared to the amount of money you pour into it. Then your depreciation on the car is higher than any other car in its segment. You are much better off (financially) just buying a factory boosted car that has all of the other power train components beefed up too.
That’s just the thing. I can’t think of too many cars in this price bracket that handle like an 86/BRZ and come factory boosted. In my view resale on any new car is pretty bad. To solve that problem just buy it used. I don’t disagree with your comment though. I just can’t think of a better solution.
Did you keep the stock compression on the 2.1l built engine or did you change it to something else? If you you changed the compression what is it now that is allowing this engine to run 20+ psi with E85?
ChubyX absolutely, i was disappointed there seemed to be only centrifugal superchargers for e92 m3’s until someone pointed me to Harrop and between seeing its design & instantly knowing it was a quality product & then seeing the dyno sheet I was instantly sold, it keeps the stock engine characteristics & power delivery there’s just more of it everywhere. Those centrifugals are super top end happy, not just HP wise but torque wise as well. Seeing this one for the BRZ is even more impressive given the neat manifold design & the way they achieved that, quite clever. Hard to beat the bolt on and go design of a properly designed roots/twin screw blower, all those other centrifugal super chargers are weak af in comparison, just belt driven turbos that don’t really perform as well as a proper turbo setup or a proper supercharger setup.
Absolutely. The Rotrex blowers that some of the supercharger kits like KraftWerks uses are complete garbage. You can look up so many videos of the tiny shafts braking and/or bearings going bad in them. Stay away from anything Rotrex!
They can be used on the AT (the AT actually handles boost better than the MT). Not sure about 95Ron, but I don't see why it wouldn't work. You'd probably need a custom tune though.
Edelbrock looks way better in my opinion. They didn't really give us any numbers on how well their setup is cooling the air compared to the Edelbrock or Cosworth setups. Would be interesting to see.
@@TripleTapHK I retracted part of my previous statement as since then I had read somewhere that the Cosworth package has inlet temps 10-20°C lower than the Harrop. Which gives much more headroom for smaller pulleys. I can't can't comment of the Edelbrock but for me I think the Cosworth would be my choice now. Being that I live in the UK, and that Cosworth uses stock filter shape wins it for me. Obviously it would be a different story entirely if I lived in the states. Sometimes if performance and features are close, the most locally made kit is what wins.
Refined petroleum is called gasoline. E85 is still 15% gasoline, and 85% ethanol. Don't argue about things you don't know. Ignorance is not a crime, but flogging others with it is.
Jason Moyle wtf leads you to believe the language one uses when commenting on media created in other countries should change to match the language of the country it originates from? Do you speak Japanese in the comments of videos uploaded from Toyota headquarters? Dumb ass, if you really want to get technical this video “comes from” a server in California, USA, so better get used to typing “gasoline”
Hey I know this is over two years old, but I'm curious as to where i can find an installer here in the S.F Bay too. Did they ever give you that info? Thanks
All the supercharger kits you see are suitable for auto gt86 to answer your question and not be a cockbag who just laughs at it. I know a shop that has done a ton of edelbrock SC kits on autos with no issues. Ive been told you are safe for the engine and tranny around 270 to 280hp, 300 might be pushing it. But remember the bottom end of the FA20 needs rebuilding if you want reliability out of more power. For the tranny SSC makes some transmission parts and coolers but they are not cheap. Supposively the auto trans in the FRS is very good. Theres an Australian race team that built an auto trans frs for a guy with 1 arm thats making ridiculous power
Best looking sc I’ve seen for this car
Beautiful kit. Smooth looking torque curve. When / if I can afford to supercharge my 86, will definitely consider seriously.
Would really love to see this in a drift car! Great alternative to Edelbrock!
If only I didn't have my Cosworth kit. This kit is amazing!
This seems better than Cosworth kit.
The nearest official Cosowrth dealer is asking for a silly high price tag for Stage 2.3, he is asking for 16K USD including installation and the standard tune re-flashed! not even a custom tune option available!
I'll buy this kit instead and hand it over to a custom tuner. looks cleaner with the front throttle placement.
KareemAbawi price wise yeah this is better. But I think overall performance is the same.
+michael w if I remember right, Cosworth will make ~280 HP at the crank... I asked them how much will it make at the wheels, I never got an answer.
this one will make 244 with out an exhaust manifold and a catback. (if I understood them right)
The Cosworth makes 250 at the wheels with their full exhaust from what people say when they dyno them. I still think they are roughly on par with each other. However, it doesn't mean I think one is better than the other and blah blah blah. haha I like both.
The Cosworth SC makes aroudn 250 at the wheels and is deemed the max the stock rods can make. Its capable of 400hp just liek the Harrop with smaller pullies. Both share the same 1.4Bar max boost rating.
I have a track buddie who has this kit. In standard form my intake temps are +15C his Harrop is +25C so the Cosworth has the nod for low intake temps which will really come into play when people start pushing 350+ hp.
Please make these again. I'm willing to do unspeakable things for one.
Your FA21 performs better than Subaru's FA24 on Ascent. Well done!
Should've had the coolant hoses come out the back. Little too much clutter in my opinion. I'm interested to see how well this kit cools the air compared to the Edelbrock and Cosworth kits.
That's a great design on those intercoolers, though!
Amazing. Just what I like to see. Subscribed. What was the compression dropped to with the forged setup? And is there a possibility to reliably increase the power even more than what you got on the forged setup?
I admit it is really cool, but there's a big problem here: Because of the higher compression of the N/A engine, you can never get to the full performance potential of a factory boosted car without building the bottom end too, which becomes really expensive. So you pay full price on the parts to only get part of the performance potential. Then when you resell the car, you never get a good price compared to the amount of money you pour into it. Then your depreciation on the car is higher than any other car in its segment. You are much better off (financially) just buying a factory boosted car that has all of the other power train components beefed up too.
i don't think resale really comes to people's mind for project cars/track builds. and what is "factory boosted car" referring to? an ecoboost mustang?
Larz just run E85 and you won't have any issue with the compression ratio
That’s just the thing. I can’t think of too many cars in this price bracket that handle like an 86/BRZ and come factory boosted. In my view resale on any new car is pretty bad. To solve that problem just buy it used. I don’t disagree with your comment though. I just can’t think of a better solution.
What about for people that never plan on selling their car. I'm gonna hopefully give my BRZ to my future son as his project car.
I bet you’re fun at Pattie’s old man
You say this passes Australian emissions, but is it actually legal? What would it take to make it legal in Victoria?
Can this work with the Automatic transmission with paddle shifts for the Toyota 86?
364 seems too much for OEM gearbox/clutch... Am I right ?
no
i meant yes
Bazuzeus the gearbox can take alot of shit.. Clutch.. Nooot so much
350 is about max for this gearbox
Did you keep the stock compression on the 2.1l built engine or did you change it to something else? If you you changed the compression what is it now that is allowing this engine to run 20+ psi with E85?
Awesome design work! For the price is want way more power though. But awesome design!
Possible to order a custom 'Stealth' version without the raised "Supercharged" lettering?
You could sand it off
Can this supercharger be used on the FB20 engine? Like the Subaru Impreza or Crosstrek?
Is there any thoughts on kits for the new 2022 BRZ/86 with the FA24? Will this kit bolt straight up would you think?
I'm not sure tbh I'm trying to figure out that too.
@@justcallmemax4222 we’ve got time, I can’t get mine till may apparently anyway.
Whats the front lip kit called? I want to get the lip kit
Would this supercharger remain an option for those with the newer FA20H found in 2017 model gt86's?
i don't see why not, no major differences with the engine, just the intake manifold :p
Ken Kozawa Yeah, just wanted to make sure that I , wouldnt be wasting alot of money 😀. Thanks.
@@doobster3439 They need a bit of extra work done to make it fit but nothing major
OMG I was looking into the Kraftwerks supercharger, but I think this blows it out of the water.
ChubyX absolutely, i was disappointed there seemed to be only centrifugal superchargers for e92 m3’s until someone pointed me to Harrop and between seeing its design & instantly knowing it was a quality product & then seeing the dyno sheet I was instantly sold, it keeps the stock engine characteristics & power delivery there’s just more of it everywhere. Those centrifugals are super top end happy, not just HP wise but torque wise as well. Seeing this one for the BRZ is even more impressive given the neat manifold design & the way they achieved that, quite clever. Hard to beat the bolt on and go design of a properly designed roots/twin screw blower, all those other centrifugal super chargers are weak af in comparison, just belt driven turbos that don’t really perform as well as a proper turbo setup or a proper supercharger setup.
Absolutely. The Rotrex blowers that some of the supercharger kits like KraftWerks uses are complete garbage. You can look up so many videos of the tiny shafts braking and/or bearings going bad in them. Stay away from anything Rotrex!
Can this kit be calibrated on an AT car using 95RON?
They can be used on the AT (the AT actually handles boost better than the MT). Not sure about 95Ron, but I don't see why it wouldn't work. You'd probably need a custom tune though.
It's a bit of a dog's breakfast when compared to the austhetics of the Cosworth package.
aesthetics*
I disagree.
Edelbrock looks way better in my opinion. They didn't really give us any numbers on how well their setup is cooling the air compared to the Edelbrock or Cosworth setups. Would be interesting to see.
@@TripleTapHK I retracted part of my previous statement as since then I had read somewhere that the Cosworth package has inlet temps 10-20°C lower than the Harrop. Which gives much more headroom for smaller pulleys.
I can't can't comment of the Edelbrock but for me I think the Cosworth would be my choice now.
Being that I live in the UK, and that Cosworth uses stock filter shape wins it for me. Obviously it would be a different story entirely if I lived in the states. Sometimes if performance and features are close, the most locally made kit is what wins.
"dogs breakfast" never heard that term here in 'murica.
How much an were will it come from ??
expect a number somewhere around $4500 - $5500
that 364whp is on e85 or gasoline.
the video clearly says E85. Don't call it gasoline this video is not in america!
Jason Moyle he can call it whatever the fuck he wants asswipe.
Its called petrol! the video was done in australia we use petrol here we don't call it gasoline its not a gas.
Refined petroleum is called gasoline. E85 is still 15% gasoline, and 85% ethanol. Don't argue about things you don't know. Ignorance is not a crime, but flogging others with it is.
Jason Moyle wtf leads you to believe the language one uses when commenting on media created in other countries should change to match the language of the country it originates from?
Do you speak Japanese in the comments of videos uploaded from Toyota headquarters? Dumb ass, if you really want to get technical this video “comes from” a server in California, USA, so better get used to typing “gasoline”
May i ask who's the dealer in Brisbane area? thanks
Hi Henry, can you please send through an e mail to sales@harrop.com.au we will put you in touch with our closest dealer. Thanks.
Hey I know this is over two years old, but I'm curious as to where i can find an installer here in the S.F Bay too. Did they ever give you that info? Thanks
GOING TO GET THIS IN 3 WEEKS :)
how is it?
@@Astartes7670 worth it mate
what rims?
Edelbrock all the way, baby!!
suitable for auto gt86?
Byzz_Byzz Auto? Haha.
All the supercharger kits you see are suitable for auto gt86 to answer your question and not be a cockbag who just laughs at it. I know a shop that has done a ton of edelbrock SC kits on autos with no issues. Ive been told you are safe for the engine and tranny around 270 to 280hp, 300 might be pushing it. But remember the bottom end of the FA20 needs rebuilding if you want reliability out of more power. For the tranny SSC makes some transmission parts and coolers but they are not cheap. Supposively the auto trans in the FRS is very good. Theres an Australian race team that built an auto trans frs for a guy with 1 arm thats making ridiculous power
i bet it cost around 8,000 or more
Damn to expansive.
its around $6k aud
from what i hear its 12k aud
Stupid basic “epic” music.
NOOOO!!! Stop talking in metric, I hate it.