Existential Analysis Live Psychotherapy Demonstration - Part 2
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 มิ.ย. 2024
- Existential Analysis in Action: Phenomenological Encounter and Psychotherapy - Part 2 of Dr. Alfried Langle's presentation consisting of a live therapy demonstration.
I was looking for an example of a psychotherapy session. I was not expecting the content to be so close to my own experiences. Thank you for allowing such a moving and personal discussion to be published. It has touched me more than words can say.... Thank you. +Bruce Muir
"For ten minutes, it was just the two of us here. And that is how I know that I belong".
Whilst Existential Analysis, like most all therapeutic approaches, has much to offer the discipline of psychotherapy, this statement is about as strong an indicator as you could get that, like Bruce Wampold says, the therapeutic relationship is the common denominator.
What a beautiful exchange. What a gift this connection with another is. Thank you, Bruce for your openness. Bless you.
Quite beautiful, a masterful display of existential analysis and such courage from Bruce. A gift to us all.
He was not seen. Had a 'dead mother'. The anger is palatable. I hope he got more therapy after this. Thank you for posting.
This is awesome. Thanks for sharing. Bruce thanks for being willing to be so open. As a new therapist this is very helpful.
Amazing session, learned a lot..and how brave the client. Thank you very much!!
Great video - as a trainee counsellor, this is gold.
This is absolutely remarkable.
this is very captivating, and very helpful.
fantastic psychotherapy skills
i can relate too my mum was unemotional because of her upbringing ,a great reader etc and years later i had relationship with a similar women who told me she compartmentalised her stuff,never talked about feelings,to me it was like an objective relationship
This is very deep stuff.
thanks you!
One of the things I pick up here is a feeling of abandonment and confusion as to why am I not loved for me?
A theory:
A "case" of an incapsulted early childhood trauma carried foward unresolved into adulthood.
The intuitive, infantile guilt over feeling abandoned and rejected by the original parent(s) was not overcome by the step parents: it is the infantile, introjected "guilt" of being abandoned. Why?
If the child see's new mother as the head of household and if the new mother has rejected the new father, the son will probably identify with mother and likewise reject father. But that leads to self~rejection by the son through male identification, hence a life spent in self~hatred. The self~hatred leads to depression~which is intolerable for any length of time. To subdue the depression and underlying self~hatred, use of drugs would be the easiest route to take in the absence of a concerted effort to understand the depression and, hopefully, uncover the deeper self~hatred?
Step mother was consumed with her own survival, leaving little emotional resources for the husband~and son. Fear and anxiety are powerful blocks to love and affection. His dream is HIS projection of not being a "real" person because of his inability to reason due to his young age and undeveloped sense of Self (no center), hence his intuitive sense of feeling "alien"~that is a very lonely situation to be in.
The "light" was the consciousness of understanding that escaped him~being such a young age~and that is existential anxiety!
An emotional, Rogerian catharsis without insight is short lived.
Do you have Part 1?
But it was never "you" Bruce. It was always "her". You know that right? May god bless you for the rest of your life with people that do love you, you have always deserved that.
Wondering if anyone noticed the body language. Notice how at the height of his inner tormoil, he began to rock himself in the chair. Very interesting session.
deep. what is the source of motion ?
@@anhumblemessengerofthelawo3858 maybe in an effort to self soothe? if he’s dealing with traumatic feelings coming to the surface, he could very well be being thrown back into that child-like state of fear/anxiety and he’s shaking with fear. I think the motion is a reflection of his anxiety but part of me wonders if it’s also in an attempt to self-soothe. I’m not 100% sure tho.
I do not see existential therapy here, I see the relationship but not a 'demonstration' of existential therapy, what am I missing?
+Tania Fewster maybe you don't know what is existencial analysis
The relationship is the demonstration. It is being demonstrated simply by doing it.
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The work around loneliness is an important feature of existential work I feel
Is this always the case that it will take that long to make the subject understand what is wrong? Is this a way to mediate using existential? Please let me understand. I just felt dragged when it can be tackled fast. I am actually trying to understand psychotherapy.
It isn't about making the client understand. The client has to come to the answer on their own. That's why it takes so long, because tossing out solutions just ends up with the counselor sounding like every friend or family member telling them what to do to 'fix' it, and the solution doesnt register.
I will say this is very long term as a therapy though, I'd say if you were interested in something more short term maybe CBT or Choice Theory might make more sense for you.
Yes, I understand your question !
I'll gladly try to give a couple of hints to help you understand Existential Therapy and this particular situation. It is very likely that it will actually take years, actually. It often does. This is just one small demonstration of one seance (for the purpose of allowing people to actually get a sense of the therapeutic process) after many totally private prior ones and many afterwards.
This isn't about understanding anything new really, or working through reframing a maladaptive behavior or belief for example like with Cognitive Behavioral Therapy; the patient has perfectly analyzed his experience long ago.
This is soul work.
The therapist here is CONNECTING deeply with him by his body posture and soft spoken words to allow the patient to FEEL INTIMACY and TRUST, the very things he has desperately longed for from his mother, in vain, and that he has never been able to feel later in his life either.
He apparently sought soothing through alcohol and drug addiction for a long time, as it frequently is the case.
By his demeanor, the therapist shows him very simply that during this encounter, he is all that matters, and he matters a great deal. Dr Längle only has eyes for his patient -- he shows by each question, and personal feedback ("I would feel like I am dying") that he hears how deep his pain is and has been and can imagine how he would have felt in his place; he shows that he sees him, gets him and cares about him.
Of course, this is HUGE for such a patient who understands intellectually that he should have been loved but suffers from deep disconnection from his body and his deep sense of not being lovable, embedded since he was little.
Existential therapy is deep, life-changing work conducted very slowly, step by step by step. Trust builds up as one discovers, time after time, that our therapist actually cares and understands perfectly what we are going through.
Dr Längle's very successful method stems from a lifetime of practice, genuine love for humanity and desire to help people to heal. His knowledge of human psychology, life drive and emotional needs are absolutely amazing.
Near the end, the patient expresses that he feels relieved, so relaxed, much better than at the beginning when he was really tense and filled with dread.
He says it felt it was "just the two of them" : he successfully experiences the therapist as the mother he never had, which provides him with a feeling of safety and of not feeling dreadfully alone like he did at home and that makes him feel like he exists and he belongs : he is now learning and memorizing what being cared for feels like, and that this can happen to him.
Traumas such as this will upset your whole life and require a lot of work and effort from both the therapist and the patient.
This is a deeply healing process, invisible but very profound. It takes time as his nervous system, which has
learned from early childhood on to react only through dread, freeze, or fight responses like anger and agression, must learn new ways to react as "it" is faced with feeling loved.
The patient will go through many ups and downs as he is allowed to transfer and project all his feelings onto his therapist.
He will feel what it's like to be with someone who connects with you with deep empathy and this must be constantly tested with the therapist who gives him a safe space in which he can safely ask for intimacy or refuse it, and safely express whatever he needs to.
You'll notice that he looks very intently at the therapist, never lowering his gaze, inhaling the energy coming towards him.
He has agreed to do this seance in front of people to help them see and experience a bit of the process but this, of course, is a bit different from the norm : he is not saying anything that he wouldn't want to expose in front of a crowd, like all of us watching on TH-cam !
In real life settings, seances can be very long, very short, frequent and they can run for years.
Hope it helps!
Cheers from Paris, France.
@@jcm5171 such a wonderful and thorough response. Thank you.
What is the word he uses at 21:14?
You mean "dreadful"?
Hey Boel, are you still around with this site? trying to contact you, Ali (Ireland)
How was it in (your mother's) presence?
"Pessimistic. Almost the antithesis of me". A blind spot in his self awareness.
Two elderly men talking about a retrospective period of one ( also many) in which one man didn't know why he wasn't experience what others experience, is it not strange incomprehensible that he has ordered his life
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What is the difference between existential therapy and existential analysis?
Existential therapy is an approach towards therapy like CBT or Psychoanalysis, Existential analysis is a tool within that therapy like free association in psychoanalysis and worksheets in CBT
@@Jabranalibabry thank you
So there was no opportunity for the little boy all those years ago to be 'seen' and 'appreciated', and the boy felt 'injustice' 🤔
Ok he might be Austrian and I might be Italian, _but_ I have this feeling he's sitting way too close to the "patient"! Like he's going to hit on him or something haha
The Therapist is transferring his own interpretation onto the client and leading down a path of his own creation. Straw-man therapy.
hengrave5 Protesting too much...envy?
hengrave5, Greeting's from co down Ireland, Your absolutely correct.
10 min. in and I don't notice it. Be specific please? I just hear empathy, summarizing, and probing.
What I notice is that the therapist helps the client to try and express his inner thoughts and desires and emotions into words...and in.the course of the client doing this , he gets some relief because he gets some answers
Yes agree he made first time use of words such as fake brutal and loneliness
Far from an existential humanist therapy, leaving aside Perls, Rogers, etc., if we focus as Rogers approaches, not looking at your client, looking at a notebook while he talks to you...
If I needed therapy, I would like the therapist to have a command of the English language equal to mine. Sometimes, all the meaning of something can be capture in a nuance, which in this case may be overlooked.
Alfreid is just simply ordinary and sometimes even forgetful. I'm sorry but that's my opinion.
The problem us the masive tectonic defense, how can anyone consciously recall this zmount of intolerable pain ,immediately its spoken the client will never address it it wil always be tenaciously avoided even to the poing of destroying the therapeutic relaithshionship 8 mins in ,daft exercise in defensive manoeuvring adsurdiam,on amd on ,bothe Janov and Reich proved this ,with a healthy contained violence the patient might begin to see but otherwise not a hope in hell ,superficial stuff.
Notice the subtle hand foot gestures saying you aint gettin fuck out me mr ,silly actually a good advert for non prescriptive proper znalysis why Freud empgasized tlme ang again the importance of allowing hhe patient to say anything good night 😢
Self pity on a stick
his dad sounds awesome....the 'love; thing is over rated, and the psychosis of europeans
9 mins in and i am thinking...the insane interviewing the insane...WTF is going on here..I too grew up with a detached mother( schizo) ..but I never was able to understand it at the time..they talk like he understood this when he was young...fik..he only knew it when he read her personal notes...does it matter..his stepparents did not abuse him...does neglect cause so many psycological problems??????
Emotional neglect is emotional abuse, and it can cause more damage than anyone knows.....it is present in other types of abuse that are direct, there is emotional neglect during physical abuse. Emotional neglect gives the unspoken message, your having feelings is irrelevant and not worth time and space