Heres the results of my testing comparison versus Supreme+ Odie +20ex Versus Mythic+ Talene +10ex Talene OUTDAMAGE Odie in both solo and both of them in the same team! I was so suprised and mind blown when i noticed that Talene doesnt even have a single charm equipped!!! DAMN!!! Good thing i can put both odie and talene in the same team... or else i would feel really really bad in making odie+20! yesterday iam #2 on server and #9 on sector DR because talene and odie. Did a test with marilee and korin but odie and talene combo still works best!
Hmm, both are quite good options and you likely will need both at some point. Personally I would go m+ Scarlita because Phraesto has more substitutes than she does
I should have looked into that towards the end of yesterday. I tried running Talene against the lone gaze, but she died early which caused the boss to get bonus stats quite early
Hello, I went from M+ Reiner into L+ Phraesto, would have to wait another 2 months to get enough for M+ Scarlita so I just decided to benefit from the deficit pushing and dream realm boost with Phraesto who only needs L+
I got Reinier to M+. I may pass on Talene for now and focus on Scarlita next. I need Scarlita for PVP defense to stay in Champ. My Eironn team ain't doing it for me anymore in my server. I'll prob get one copy of Talene from the box when I reach that AFK stage. It'll take me a while to get to it.
hey turtle, can have a try with eironn, ulmus, damian, lyca, dionel in pvp. Have been having some great experience with this team in base arena, changed my view of dionel, who was a great disappointment previously.
Shakir and Seth are good counters to offensive Dionel. He is quite squishy so any heroes that can apply consistent pressure to the back row will make him monka
#1 Reinier #2 Scar #3 Phraesto Then who cares unless you're a Kraken. Those 3 core characters will take you months to get to a minimum usuable form at M+ and they have many uses in many modes. Hey buddy, been a while. Hope you're doing well.
MonkaS, I am not saying Dionel is bad. He is great, he enables his own Supreme Arena PVP archtype. It is just that this is his one and only specialty at the present time. The others can at least be relevant in either AFK stage deficit pushing or dream realm ranking.
Imo last. I don't think he's useless but like if u wanna be gigachad PvP just p2 dionel and u win everything. He doesn't need 2nd DPS. And dionel melts berial comps. Imo kinds like u said but berial last. And not sure about talene 4th she might be more important than pesto cause she is one of a kind. But it requires more testing
Yes I know Phraesto is really good but I'm still gonna skip him. I just don't see a world where I waste summons on a character I don't like when Talene and Berial are much more interesting to me personally.
Reinier > scarlita > phraesto > dionel > berial > talene is the correct order, for the first 3 I agree but i have both dionel and berial team and dio is about i would say 5 times better than berial in damage unless you use berial to stall for like a scarlita or something then pick the other and then dead last its talene, probably being one of the worst pvp units in the game not just between celestials and being mediocre in pve.
I appreciate your feedback. For me personally, my Berial Florabelle team wins more than my Dionel team when equally invested, but if we are talking ex15+ heroes then I suppose Dionel would perform better. What teammates do you run your Dionel with?
Oh btw, I am not saying Dionel is bad. He enables a powerful supreme arena team archetype. But so does Berial with the zoo comp. So if my Berial and Dionel are each securing me one victory in supreme arena, Berial is still a more value-oriented hero to spend stellar crystals on because he is used in some afk stage deficit pushing formations, whereas Dionel does not provide this kind of value at all.
AFKJ is slowly becoming more generous to F2Ps and low spenders with each new update, but I agree with you that the game could improve their rewards a bit more so that we can do more summons.
I agree to a point. This isn't a f2p friendly game at all, however you can do well as f2p IF you get lucky on pulls. Which reiterates your point about the lack of pulls. If you have bad pulls in your first couple of weeks it's probably best to restart. This game doesn't allow for a lot of options in formations. I'm a day 1 player and I only use 30% of my roster. Tells you how many useless chars they've made.
You're able to compete as f2p but you need to be very active and get to the highest AFK level possible and collect everything as soon as possible, which can be overwhelming to most new players. Only focus and invest in the META characters instead of all of them at the same time. It's hard to compete against paying players if you don't have the time to invest.
@@sury451Yeah, that was my experience with my F2P account. I was hitting hard pity every time and just could not keep up even with my knowledge or time invested. I was a carpenter without the wood I needed 🪵
Thx for reply help me get this suggestion to dev team I already reached out afk j on fb they said give a note to devs but with your all help we can do this turtle u are awesome creator I don’t understand why you not earning millions of view you are Great 👍
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Great video, zero sycophancy to the developers or attempts to hype a new character, very sober and reasoned approach. 100% agree.
Thank you Alex!
@alexanderkorolkov6103 yeah..I like how he doesn't act beholden to Lilith.
Super helpful video. Thanks so much for being such a kind and helpful person. Super glad to be a part of your community! ❤
Awww thank you so much Justin, thank you for your support 😍
Helpful, informative, no fluff and well spoken. Thank you for the guidance and good videos, only afk TH-cam channel I’ll watch.
Awww thank you!!!
" Just by being top ten" bold of you to assume that I would even be top 100
I believe in you!
your work is impressive!
Thank you so much!!!
Heres the results of my testing comparison versus Supreme+ Odie +20ex Versus Mythic+ Talene +10ex
Talene OUTDAMAGE Odie in both solo and both of them in the same team!
I was so suprised and mind blown when i noticed that Talene doesnt even have a single charm equipped!!!
DAMN!!! Good thing i can put both odie and talene in the same team... or else i would feel really really bad in making odie+20!
yesterday iam #2 on server and #9 on sector DR because talene and odie. Did a test with marilee and korin but odie and talene combo still works best!
That is awesome! Glad you are having success with Talene!
Great video. I have reinier m+ and the meta eironn comp. I just really dont know whether go for L+ phraestro or m+ scarlita next 🤔
Hmm, both are quite good options and you likely will need both at some point. Personally I would go m+ Scarlita because Phraesto has more substitutes than she does
Talene was used in the best Lone Gaze team I've seen with more than 41B damage
Smokey, Phraesto, Koko, Talene, Scarlita
I should have looked into that towards the end of yesterday. I tried running Talene against the lone gaze, but she died early which caused the boss to get bonus stats quite early
Hello, I went from M+ Reiner into L+ Phraesto, would have to wait another 2 months to get enough for M+ Scarlita so I just decided to benefit from the deficit pushing and dream realm boost with Phraesto who only needs L+
Great idea. From an afk stage pushing perspective, phraesto is better.
I got Reinier to M+. I may pass on Talene for now and focus on Scarlita next. I need Scarlita for PVP defense to stay in Champ. My Eironn team ain't doing it for me anymore in my server. I'll prob get one copy of Talene from the box when I reach that AFK stage. It'll take me a while to get to it.
I think Scarlita is a fantastic choice. She will be a huge upgrade for your account. Incredibly versatile and powerful hero!
hey turtle, can have a try with eironn, ulmus, damian, lyca, dionel in pvp. Have been having some great experience with this team in base arena, changed my view of dionel, who was a great disappointment previously.
Ooo, that is a spicy Dionel team comp. I will try it, thank you!!!
Hi turtle. Any advice or ideas in how to counter dionel comps in normal arena?
Hi Von, I think an Eironn team or Vala/Silvina/Reinier comp can perform quite well against a Dionel comp depending on your investment vs theirs.
Sorry I meant for defense against dionel comps
Shakir and Seth are good counters to offensive Dionel. He is quite squishy so any heroes that can apply consistent pressure to the back row will make him monka
Can i get 1 copy of talene for synergy with ludo then I'll go all in for scar?
Yes you can!
Damn i pulled for talene in first 10 draws and got her but guess i'll pull for Reiner then
Congrats 🎊
Very useful video thank you！ 🎉🎉🎉Could you please share your DC link btw？
Thank you! Yes, my discord discord.gg/RUCGGyrSbp
Explains how Reiner is best for kit proceeds to never summon him cause I just hate his character design 😂
I think Reinier looks so cool! And he is hilarious in the story!
That’s awesome I’ll get him one of these days to add to the collection 😅
Sounds good!
#1 Reinier
#2 Scar
#3 Phraesto
Then who cares unless you're a Kraken. Those 3 core characters will take you months to get to a minimum usuable form at M+ and they have many uses in many modes.
Hey buddy, been a while. Hope you're doing well.
I agree either way you 100% and thank you! It is good to be back!
@@turtlelagzgaming I have m+ Reiner, scarlita is next right?
Yes, that is right
TLDR: Reinier > Scarlita > Phraesto > Berial > Talene > Dionel
But arguably Talene goes to 2nd place
Perfect! 🤩
I might need to film a follow up video soon though. Talene is already viable in 3 out of the 4 meta dream realm bosses since her release 😱
my boy dionel beaten by a bird...
MonkaS, I am not saying Dionel is bad. He is great, he enables his own Supreme Arena PVP archtype. It is just that this is his one and only specialty at the present time. The others can at least be relevant in either AFK stage deficit pushing or dream realm ranking.
@@turtlelagzgaming i know i know dw:)
im a f2p so i will never use him probably i just love his design;p
Dionel does get some love haha, he is a gigachad in the main story
"Just by being top 10" ... lol, to get into top 10 any server you need to already have built up heroes.
Yeah true, I don't know why I said it so matter-of-factly. Hopefully my main points still stand.
Oyoyo berial 4 is a take😂
Lolz, how would you rank Berial? Someone else said Dionel is a higher priority
Imo last. I don't think he's useless but like if u wanna be gigachad PvP just p2 dionel and u win everything. He doesn't need 2nd DPS.
And dionel melts berial comps.
Imo kinds like u said but berial last. And not sure about talene 4th she might be more important than pesto cause she is one of a kind. But it requires more testing
Yes I know Phraesto is really good but I'm still gonna skip him. I just don't see a world where I waste summons on a character I don't like when Talene and Berial are much more interesting to me personally.
Berial and Talene are much more interesting for sure 👍
Reinier > scarlita > phraesto > dionel > berial > talene is the correct order, for the first 3 I agree but i have both dionel and berial team and dio is about i would say 5 times better than berial in damage unless you use berial to stall for like a scarlita or something then pick the other and then dead last its talene, probably being one of the worst pvp units in the game not just between celestials and being mediocre in pve.
I appreciate your feedback. For me personally, my Berial Florabelle team wins more than my Dionel team when equally invested, but if we are talking ex15+ heroes then I suppose Dionel would perform better. What teammates do you run your Dionel with?
Oh btw, I am not saying Dionel is bad. He enables a powerful supreme arena team archetype. But so does Berial with the zoo comp. So if my Berial and Dionel are each securing me one victory in supreme arena, Berial is still a more value-oriented hero to spend stellar crystals on because he is used in some afk stage deficit pushing formations, whereas Dionel does not provide this kind of value at all.
@@turtlelagzgaming i run lyca over shakir otherwise its the same as you and it does alot better
After 6 days this game is very boring no x10 summons its not f2p friendly you need at least all subscriptions to be playable
AFKJ is slowly becoming more generous to F2Ps and low spenders with each new update, but I agree with you that the game could improve their rewards a bit more so that we can do more summons.
I agree to a point.
This isn't a f2p friendly game at all, however you can do well as f2p IF you get lucky on pulls.
Which reiterates your point about the lack of pulls. If you have bad pulls in your first couple of weeks it's probably best to restart.
This game doesn't allow for a lot of options in formations.
I'm a day 1 player and I only use 30% of my roster. Tells you how many useless chars they've made.
You're able to compete as f2p but you need to be very active and get to the highest AFK level possible and collect everything as soon as possible, which can be overwhelming to most new players. Only focus and invest in the META characters instead of all of them at the same time. It's hard to compete against paying players if you don't have the time to invest.
@@sury451Yeah, that was my experience with my F2P account. I was hitting hard pity every time and just could not keep up even with my knowledge or time invested. I was a carpenter without the wood I needed 🪵
Thx for reply help me get this suggestion to dev team I already reached out afk j on fb they said give a note to devs but with your all help we can do this turtle u are awesome creator I don’t understand why you not earning millions of view you are Great 👍