The Best Party in Xenoblade: Definitive Edition

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  • @azi7371
    @azi7371 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1207

    Best party in my opinion: Alvis, Mumkhar, Dickson. They're reliable and work really well as a team.

    • @christophergribben5210
      @christophergribben5210 4 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      I agree

    • @EnelXC
      @EnelXC  4 ปีที่แล้ว +332

      I was thinking the same thing. can't believe I forgot to mention them

    • @dr_inverted8744
      @dr_inverted8744 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      Enel you should make a guide on them! I think you could make them really useful lol

    • @noahcarruth7221
      @noahcarruth7221 4 ปีที่แล้ว +106

      They also have Unbeatable VI for 100%. Making them immortal.

    • @Laurmachi
      @Laurmachi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Ah, the tried and true trinity of DPS, Tank, and healer. Really you can't find a better team.

  • @verdethestarwarrior1088
    @verdethestarwarrior1088 4 ปีที่แล้ว +731

    If I had a dollar for every time AI Shulk used Enchant when everyone had anti-Mechon weapons equipped, I could buy the Xenoblade Definitive Works Set

    • @davidluna7
      @davidluna7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      that extra 100 damage could save your life doe

    • @thunderknight4149
      @thunderknight4149 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      well I heard that anti-Mechon weapons will only do normal damage halved normally without enchant but I agree with you that AI Shulk is stupid. Examples are: Buster, shield, cyclone, Enchant,purge, (i heard other say that eater or speed was used at different times but I have never seen it) at the wrong time (armor is mostly useful even if it is unnecessary unless used on a weak enemy)

    • @Calvinooi
      @Calvinooi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@thunderknight4149 my AI Shulk tends to just spam Monado purge I'm not sure why
      And he often use Monado Speed on himself when Dunban is tanking lol

    • @coriux
      @coriux 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Extra 300 damage though

    • @coriux
      @coriux 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sharla putting shield barrier on Shulk instead of Reyn hurts too.
      And shulk using Battle Soul Randomly

  • @justinbowman1342
    @justinbowman1342 4 ปีที่แล้ว +929

    I haven't watched the video yet but I know Sharla is not going to be here.

    • @MistahJuicyBoy
      @MistahJuicyBoy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +169

      Whoever invented the cooldown mechanic AND PUT IT ON A HEALER really doesn't like fun lol.

    • @BunPrince
      @BunPrince 4 ปีที่แล้ว +84

      The fact that they didn't change or buff it in the definitive edition is worse after several years of complaints

    • @jethiliusavalar6449
      @jethiliusavalar6449 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@BunPrince they should have given her a few more offensive arts a least :/

    • @kmaster57
      @kmaster57 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Cool down ain’t bad if controlling her. She’s doesn’t however provided much attack unless it’s ether based

    • @obamaorb7426
      @obamaorb7426 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      What do you mean? If you give Sharla Glorious Future she's broken!

  • @Lando-My-Love
    @Lando-My-Love 4 ปีที่แล้ว +539

    If Reyn is one of the best party members, why wouldn't I just run Reyn and Nene in the same party?

    • @bigyoshii
      @bigyoshii 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Nene doesn’t have a skill tree

    • @LordEgilYGO
      @LordEgilYGO 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@bigyoshii Because she'd be absolutely broken with one, best character in the game

    • @mountchoco8174
      @mountchoco8174 4 ปีที่แล้ว +86

      If sharla is one of the best party members, why wouldnt i just run sharla and kino in the same party?
      Wait lemme try again

    • @ZenZenDaijoubu
      @ZenZenDaijoubu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      @@mountchoco8174 cool off and snooze off would be op in a chain attack

    • @mountchoco8174
      @mountchoco8174 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That random guy not op but itd be useful

  • @gutsan5217
    @gutsan5217 4 ปีที่แล้ว +458

    Party member rankings
    1. Riki, Dunban, Reyn, Fiora, Shulk, Melia, Dickson, Mumkhar
    9. Sharla

    • @duncancarter9410
      @duncancarter9410 4 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      you forgot alvis

    • @kathrynrovito6855
      @kathrynrovito6855 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @Tesseracthanos And this is where I'd put my Vanea rank.
      IF I HAD ONE

    • @kathrynrovito6855
      @kathrynrovito6855 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      I know crapping on Sharla is a meme, but her dps outside of chain attacks can't be denied now, what with Headshot spamming with Drive Boost at level XII. The fact that she's probably the worst chain attack character outright definitely doesn't make her great in most teams, but once you max out her two good arts she becomes somewhat solid for the (very few) situations where her niche can be utilized effectively.

    • @Laurmachi
      @Laurmachi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Dickson is miles better than Sharla. After all, Thunder Bolt hits only one time which is miles better as we all know. We also know that a healer that can only auto-attack at short range is just complimentary to their playstyle.

    • @shadered6955
      @shadered6955 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Sharla actually isn’t too bad until around Egil Is dead. She heals decently good and if you pull a Shulk/Fiora and Reyn/Dunban and Sharla, it would not be that bad

  • @starchild4627
    @starchild4627 4 ปีที่แล้ว +261

    Just place Riki and thats a begin. Very good all around and quotes like fighting Avalance Abaasy: RIKI LIKES FIGHTING EASY MONSTERS

  • @twanvanhouwelingen8759
    @twanvanhouwelingen8759 4 ปีที่แล้ว +378

    We need xenoblade 2 tombstones for unique monsters in this game, the respawning is really annoying.

    • @______-uw3ei
      @______-uw3ei 4 ปีที่แล้ว +103

      I'm honestly surprised and sad that wasn't added considering all the other quality of life changes

    • @planetary-rendez-vous
      @planetary-rendez-vous 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@______-uw3ei I'm hoping for some patches...

    • @Jordan3DS
      @Jordan3DS 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Yeah, the tombstone system was a good idea, although I don't think it's TOO bad having to reload to get them to respawn. I'd say the advanced art books are a much more annoying part about unique monsters, since they all have such pitiful drop rates.

    • @______-uw3ei
      @______-uw3ei 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Jordan3D well one of the nice things about definitive edition which is spoilers kind of but after you beat future connected you can buy level 12 art books with nopon stones in the challenge battle area which completely surpasses the level 10 art books saving the need to grind for them and allowing u to pick the exact art u want upgrades for as well as it being able to reach level 12

    • @______-uw3ei
      @______-uw3ei 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Mylaur I doubt there will be any patches and monilsoth already said they will be moving on to a new game there making so it’s unlikely

  • @boohoo723
    @boohoo723 4 ปีที่แล้ว +239

    The real answer is Melia/Reyn/Seven because they make fun of Reyn

    • @astralm8072
      @astralm8072 4 ปีที่แล้ว +84

      Every team comp with Riki and Reyn insults Reyn too.

    • @ethanhancock462
      @ethanhancock462 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Charming. Don't know why I bother.

    • @ryabyan
      @ryabyan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      'the mean girls' set up

    • @nesoukkefka1741
      @nesoukkefka1741 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Melia/Reyn/Sharla is funny to on that aspect, "The head !! Shot him in the head !!" XD

    • @questionmarkquestionmarkques
      @questionmarkquestionmarkques 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      and Duncan/Riki/Reyn
      edit: that was supposed to be a typo but im going to leave it like that

  • @willbowden6897
    @willbowden6897 4 ปีที่แล้ว +325

    It's interesting that Reyn, Dunban, and Fiora is such a good party considering it's the only party in the game that can't heal other party members

    • @starchild4627
      @starchild4627 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Will Bowden indeed, only themselfs. Those Selfish bastards😂

    • @EnelXC
      @EnelXC  4 ปีที่แล้ว +288

      don't need to heal when the enemy is dead

    • @starchild4627
      @starchild4627 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Enel indeed, they may be bad in healing but in power they are STRONG

    • @planetary-rendez-vous
      @planetary-rendez-vous 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @@EnelXC Sounds like end game only
      In a relatively normal playthrough I can't hit the high level enemies and without heal get practically one shot.

    • @lightning0938
      @lightning0938 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Don't need others to heal when you heal yourself by stabbing the enemy really really hard.

  • @justinbowman1342
    @justinbowman1342 4 ปีที่แล้ว +157

    3:12 I love how janky it looks when Shulk uses monado arts with the junk sword.

  • @nezz204
    @nezz204 4 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    RIP Sharla. I used her throughout the whole game because I couldn't keep my team alive. Who knew that was my biggest mistake?

    • @myhr2320
      @myhr2320 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Nah, using Sharla is not a mistake, but not trying more party comp may have been one. In the end, it worked, that's what important!

    • @nyxmiloq4167
      @nyxmiloq4167 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I'm on my second playthrough, about to finish the events at Eryth Sea, and I've already maxed out Sharla's affinity with everyone else, so that I don't need to use her ever again till Seven joins the party

    • @anthonybell5666
      @anthonybell5666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I honestly like using sharla

    • @outlaw451
      @outlaw451 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sharla seeming to suck, and letting my party die despite being my only real healer, is the whole reason I am on here watching this video.

  • @aiexmonsterhunter
    @aiexmonsterhunter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +366

    "He's so cuddly, I could almost cuddle him to death!"
    "Riki may well be the softest of all nopon."
    "Riki suddenly feel afraid..."
    That's all i've got to say about my favorite party.

    • @BladeDevil
      @BladeDevil 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      which setup is that?

    • @aiexmonsterhunter
      @aiexmonsterhunter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      @@BladeDevil Melia, Dunban and Riki

    • @Fabiocean2000
      @Fabiocean2000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      "Wow, when did you two get so tough?"
      "What? Just because we're girls we're supposed to be wimps? How rude!"
      "Quite. I'm afraid you have much to learn about the fairer sex, Shulk."
      "Why do I get the feeling that mastering the Monado is going to be easier?"

    • @aiexmonsterhunter
      @aiexmonsterhunter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@Fabiocean2000 You'll have to deal with either Shulk or Melia controlled by the AI in that party, which isn't very optimal.

    • @regulusking4299
      @regulusking4299 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fabiocean what combination is that. I know Shulk and Melia are in it but who’s the 3rd

  • @Malysitos
    @Malysitos 4 ปีที่แล้ว +333

    Glad to see Shuckle, Fiona, Rain, Duncan, Melanie, and Rick getting all the love in this video...
    And then there’s Sharla

  • @thisimagelooksslightlybett1020
    @thisimagelooksslightlybett1020 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Seven in xc1 and DE: Crit Queen
    Fiora in xc2: Topples Mythra from the Crit Queen throne
    It's almost as if... as if they're the person... nah, that's impossible

  • @Luxin_Xeno
    @Luxin_Xeno 4 ปีที่แล้ว +137

    can't believe you had the gall to say Sharla is useless in the same video you praised Glorious Future, you just have to link it to her and she becomes the best character in the game

    • @EnelXC
      @EnelXC  4 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      really good advice and I can't believe I've never thought of this

    • @csconnor5160
      @csconnor5160 4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      In the wise words of chuggaaconroy: “if you want to experience impossible mode, link [Glorious Future] to Sharla”

    • @Zelenal
      @Zelenal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      It would have been really neat if Glorious Future had the opposite effect on Sharla and actually emptied her talent gauge every time it proced.

  • @omo4941
    @omo4941 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Lmao I finally just got all of the "glorious future Sharla" jokes

  • @craftdiamonds
    @craftdiamonds 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I always loved the setup of Shulk, Riki, and Dunban

  • @Mercurius19
    @Mercurius19 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Reyn, Reyn, and Reyn for 24/7 Reyn time.

    • @runaway74
      @runaway74 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maximum uptime

    • @PokeHunter29
      @PokeHunter29 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      When Reyn time runs out for one, another one takes over

  • @Alex-fj1ss
    @Alex-fj1ss 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    These guides have helped make the game so much more fun for me since I’m not just spamming my arts as Shulk anymore

  • @Madnessguy03
    @Madnessguy03 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I’ve had the game since the 3DS version and when I saw the Definitive Edition was being released I was hyped. Before I ramble on I do want to say that your guides are pretty amazing, i’m dying less often in battles, survivability and chain attacking are more consistent. Keep up the great work!

  • @djmack6474
    @djmack6474 4 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    Me: cant function without sharla...welp guess iv sucked at xenoblade for years lol

    • @astralm8072
      @astralm8072 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Since you mentioned it, there's a great text guide to Surviving without Sharla here that Tables61 wrote. It's absolutely worth checking out. www.reddit.com/r/Xenoblade_Chronicles/comments/h8thfz/xbde_beginners_guide_1_surviving_without_sharla/

    • @hiddenmonkeyofdoom
      @hiddenmonkeyofdoom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I'm in same boat, got Dunban, switched sharla for him, immediately started dying to everything. I actually enjoy controlling Sharla, but I am often a healer in games, so it just jives with me.

    • @Scuuurbs
      @Scuuurbs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I’m fine without her in most cases, but against unique mobs and the like she’s a nice safety net. Her lack of chain versatility is really starting to show, however. Can’t wait for Head Shot.

    • @Neogears1312
      @Neogears1312 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Use Riki. He’s a straight upgrade.

    • @Neogears1312
      @Neogears1312 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      hiddenmonkeyofdoom the tricks either using shulk intelligently or using Riki. The best alternative is outputting so much damage they don’t focus the softer guys in the group. Reyn and Riki are pretty great characters to play if if you struggle with surviving.

  • @007English007
    @007English007 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Would be cool to revisit XC2 party compositions at a later date, dissecting which blades are best on which drivers, who has the best animations on each weapon, etc.
    Cool video!

  • @astralm8072
    @astralm8072 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Great video! Gives a fair shake to everyone and basically covers everything about 'good' parties. Melia is great and fun to play, but yeah, the physical team synergy is just too strong and comes out ahead as a whole.

  • @strawberrycake3474
    @strawberrycake3474 4 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    T-T poor Sharla man if only you were more of a sniper then a healer

    • @Neogears1312
      @Neogears1312 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      If only they just made her like Billy.

    • @brazyfever787
      @brazyfever787 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      honestly.

    • @Neogears1312
      @Neogears1312 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Adam Thompson turns out if you just made her have to reload instead of cooling down and give her real support arts that would help the team she’d be great.

    • @nesoukkefka1741
      @nesoukkefka1741 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If only she wasn't crippled with that terrible talent art -_-

    • @Neogears1312
      @Neogears1312 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nesouk Kefka honestly she’d still suck. Her supports unnecessary when you can just run Riki for healing and most of her other abilities are negated by gems. And having only 4 attack arts that are all different colors means that without melia she’s a fuckin bitch to chain attack with.

  • @hugocaplice8580
    @hugocaplice8580 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Cheers for these de videos Enel. They’ve all been really high quality and informative. I look forward to any more that you do.

  • @SuzushinaYurikos
    @SuzushinaYurikos 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Sharla's only good party is a Melia-Riki-Sharla full ether party which actually works well for tackling red enemies. It needs setup like Tank Riki, linking Melia's Enlightenment to everyone for ether accuracy, and bringing sleep skills for emergencies. But Sharla's overkill healing actually works well in those situations. I beat the pterodactyl at the top of the Fallen Arm and Riki's skill tree quest boss on the waterfall island with this underleveled party.
    In all other situations Sharla just drags your team down.

    • @dankdilly
      @dankdilly 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I really love that trio and thought I was the only one lol.

  • @anthonyk3952
    @anthonyk3952 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Poor Sharla man... if only they gave her SOMETHING in this version if the game, ideally a talent art rework, but no. She's the Nia of Xenoblade 1; she gives you insane survivability if your party is not built properly, but that's it (and let's be honest here: if you're using Sharla, that automatically means that you're team is not built properly).
    Heck, at least Nia has great utility with a million break arts (especially with Obrona in NG+ for that juicy double hit crit recharge break art), or can be spec'd to be a strong damage dealer with someone like KOS-MOS or Crossette. Sharla just has healing, and that's it.

    • @myhr2320
      @myhr2320 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Gotta disagree, you can build a team with Sharla, every team can work, because the game isn't that hard that it invalidates any team composition. Some just break the game (in a good way), as presented in the video. Optimal? Nope. Viable? Sure.

    • @Neogears1312
      @Neogears1312 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      myhr2 yeah but unlike other Xeno games she’s a crutch, not a person or value. Compare this to characters like Citan who can and will kick the shit out of a dragon with ease and is a good doc sharla is just meh damage in a game you don’t need healer.

    • @brazyfever787
      @brazyfever787 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You acting like her healing is a bad thing......

    • @anthonyk3952
      @anthonyk3952 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@myhr2320 Don't get me wrong, Sharla can work in most team comps, has gotten me out of some really sticky situations, and adds tons of sustain in a game that otherwise lacks healing (a pitiful single target heal from Shulk and a decently strong heal from Riki are the only other direct heals in the game). Her biggest issue is that the healing is almost everything she brings to the table. I will admit that she also offers pretty good utility through her shield/cure/heat bullets, but the support isn't enough to compensate for her low damage. Sure, she can keep your team alive much longer than if you weren't running her, but longer fights also lead to more opportunities to mess up or for things to really go south for the team. She also comes with the issues of the team crumbling the second the tank goes down due to how little she contributes to party gauge gain for revives.
      If they reworked Cool Off to where she wasn't forced to do so at full heat, then player controlled Sharla would actually have some very high DPS through Drive Boost spamming (as Enel showed off in her character guide), particularly since she does 56% more damage at max heat.
      Unfortunately, they did almost nothing to buff her in the remaster, so she's the only one if the 7 characters to not really fill a niche in the late or end game; Shulk, Reyn, Dunban, Melia and Fiora have massive damage outputs. Shulk, Reyn, Dunban and Fiora can topple lock an enemy and build chain attacks like they're nothing. Reyn, Dunban and Fiora make great endgame tanks. If you need a support character that badly, Riki offers a strong heal while also having tons of debuffs and DoTs so he can still contribute to the team offensively.
      Sharla's problem isnt that she's not viable. Her problem is that she really only offers healing, which many players use as a crutch and may end up hurting the team's chance of success as a whole (try fighting something like Abaasy with Sharla rather than topple locking it or just quick killing it and you'll see what I mean). She's a healer, nothing more. And that just makes her too niche for her own good when you start to properly optimize your team.

    • @myhr2320
      @myhr2320 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@anthonyk3952 Oh, I agree, but I was specifically refering to you saying that a team with Sharla is not "built properly". Maybe you were just using a little hyperbole for the argument's sake, and no-one can deny that she most likely makes thing harder for the team when you know what are the better options, mechanic-wise, but still, I think it's good to point out that the game has a great diversity in terms of strategy.
      Also, you forgot Melia's Healing Gift as the last direct heal in the game, and yes, I've tried Healer Melia, at which point it should be obvious that I like to suffer to try make sub-optimal things work, but I think it's just to the game's credit that even sub-optimal strategies can work with enough tweaks.

  • @espeonscottie
    @espeonscottie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The party setups I like the most are the ether party with Melia/Riki/Sharla. Or some experimental setups like Riki/Reyn/Dunban for chain building/topple-locking or Tank Sharla focused teams.

    • @myhr2320
      @myhr2320 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah, another Sharla-tank lover! It's the great thing with that battle system, any team can work well enough since the game is not that hard to begin with.

  • @TheLoneNovakid
    @TheLoneNovakid 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I wish there was a gem that instead of deheating Sharla's gun, it gave an aoe healing effect based on a percentage of the damage Sharla deals. That would make her a much better support, make spamming arts like Headshot much more viable, and keep her alive during the cool down.

  • @yggdrasil7942
    @yggdrasil7942 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    There's only one game I've been playing since Jan 2020, and it's this franchise. Either XC2, XCX & XCDE. I love them all.

  • @otakudaikun
    @otakudaikun 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It sucks Sharla is so inept. Can you help me understand how to heal properly without her? Shulk just has the one heal and it’s not very good.

    • @myhr2320
      @myhr2320 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stack Agility on your tank to mitigate Physical damage (50 max from gems, 25 from Sharla and Melia Skill link, and you can also link a +20% Agi when under 50% Health), reduce weight to as close as 0 than you can, and equip Medium armor to have decent Ether Defense. Always link Riki's CD reduction skill (night or day, night is more powerful, but some monster can only be fought during the day, adapt in this case), he also has a very decent skill to heal his target more when they're under 50% Health, link that too. And you're pretty much good to go, Shulk is enough because he can also use Monado arts to help, like putting Monado Speed or Shield on your tank when needed (low life or Vision).
      The characters that can heal besides Sharla are Shulk, Riki, and Melia. Do note that to heal effectively with Melia, you need to increase her Health, and give her a way to heal herself, be it Summon Aqua or a gem like Arts Heal.
      That being said, Sharla is not inept, the proof is that she heals so much, it's just the simpler way to play the game.

  • @keystone5750
    @keystone5750 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    To be honest, I just used whoever was the lowest level party member, or whoever had the most story relevance. Made both Gadolt fights a lot harder than the needed to be. This will be nice for time attack though, which I've been saving for NG+.
    Also, about the AI, imagine how sick it would be if this game had online co-op for up to 3 people. The game would be a lot easier, but it be even more fun than it already is.

    • @weenkerz
      @weenkerz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      While that sounds fun, who would control chain attack?

    • @coricos9849
      @coricos9849 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@weenkerz possibly all 3, well, a xenoblade mmo Sound pretty cool

    • @Chaudexpower
      @Chaudexpower 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Xenoblade X had it it was really fun man.

  • @Sabuuchi
    @Sabuuchi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    With this chapter coming to a close, do you have any plans on doing guides for the X cast? Or are we holding out for a switch port? (Sometime in our lifetimes.)

    • @EnelXC
      @EnelXC  4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      haha I'd like to make guides on X but i'd need the demand to be higher with a port or something. And i'm not quite done with XC1 stuff yet, I'd like to keep covering everything I can.

    • @planetary-rendez-vous
      @planetary-rendez-vous 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@EnelXC X is absolutely insane in terms of gameplay and guides... So much things and variety. If you ignore the cookie cutter blossom dance that is.
      I'd love an X port

  • @mousysaint9143
    @mousysaint9143 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Melia fiora Dunban is also a pretty cool combo. Lets you topple lock, spam chain attacks and has great synergies. Topple guarantees a crit for ether attacks after all.

  • @TidalBell
    @TidalBell 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Haven’t finished this yet but the answer is Reyn

  • @obamaorb7426
    @obamaorb7426 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    1:32
    Am I crazy or is there a quiet voice in the background?

    • @EnelXC
      @EnelXC  4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      nah ur not crazy, didn't mute my mic in that particular clip lol

    • @pendalink
      @pendalink 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      there was one of these in one of the other recent vids too lol

  • @mismismism
    @mismismism 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Sharla got shafted, all the other characters are great(Riki's my fave though). Whoever thought making the healer overheat and not really have any combo arts, was a good plan. They really should have taken the overheat off her in the remaster to at least make her useful for a defensive team as a healer. Wish they could have made her more useful for an ether team too since you have 4 options for phys but ether is really just Melia and Riki then someone to chain combo so Melia can murder them.

    • @myhr2320
      @myhr2320 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Actually, Fiora has a decent Ether set-up with Canon Drones II, Ether Drain, and the occasional Mag Storm, and you can spice it up with Final Cross in chains (just put Melia before Fiora to get max chain bonus)

  • @derektimmons6495
    @derektimmons6495 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Imagine if shulk shrieked “I cAn sEE thE fUTure!!!” From dragon ball z abridged every time he had a vision. Truly top Kek

  • @johnsmith-fe4ip
    @johnsmith-fe4ip 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another great video, Thanks man for taking the time to share all of your knowledge with the rest of us.

  • @leifster7762
    @leifster7762 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m definitely going with Shulk,Fiora and Dunban as my go to party. It seems really solid and better than the ether party. Probably will have Shulk and Fiora occasionally swap role as party leader and Dunban and Reyn swap role as the third party member. Thanks for the help!
    Also F for Sharla

  • @neku2741
    @neku2741 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    great video bro, enjoy the vacation

  • @finnabus633
    @finnabus633 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video and Informative as always. Thanks Enel!

  • @eulefranz944
    @eulefranz944 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It is almost like as all (most) party members reflect their personality in battle.
    Melia ist useful, but frail and not everyone 'gets along'
    Dunban is a liked by everyone, Shulk is just Monado boiiii
    And of course Fiora builda party meter with her great attitude
    And Sharla is just Sharla hehe

  • @mikemitchell6265
    @mikemitchell6265 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All of you videos are so helpful, and much appreciated.

  • @Fenyll_Fur
    @Fenyll_Fur 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    While we're talking about parties, I found one team in particular that worked amazingly well for me personally around mid-late (around level 60-80) game when dealing with enemies many levels above me.
    Melia, Dunban, and Sharla (yes, Sharla).
    Throughout my game, I didn't acquire many decent agility up gems and therefore struggled with my physical party when dealing with higher level enemies. I found this team to be incredibly helpful. I set them up by giving Dunban the few agility gems I had, giving Melia her standard chill, poison, and ether up gems, and making Sharla tanky by giving her my very best HP up and muscle up gems.
    The strategy is fairly simple. The aggro stays on Dunban and sometimes Sharla while Melia uses Summon Ice & Earth to deal all the damage. Sharla keeps herself and Dunban alive, and Meila finishes off the enemy with Summon Bolt(s). I chose to use Dunban as the tank rather than Reyn for a couple reasons. Dunban's higher agility would give him at least a slight chance of hitting the opponent, and his serene heart & battle eye auras help his accuracy and help keep Meila safe respectively.
    I'm no expert--in fact, I'm relatively new to these games--but this is what worked for me. Let me know how it works for you and what party setups you prefer!

  • @NepheneeGyattRizz
    @NepheneeGyattRizz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    All hail the hero of sword valley, the one and only user of the legendary blossom dance. DUNCAN

  • @mattsodano6264
    @mattsodano6264 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wish Dickson was playable throughout Satorl Marsh. Make him like the Vandham of Xenoblade 1.

  • @lixard_
    @lixard_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I wanna see someone do a run/battle with Sharla in the lead, and with Melia and Shulk on ai, just to see how bad it is

  • @eweng903
    @eweng903 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video. All seven Xenoblade characters are viable for the game, and earlier on most of that involves quests, exploring, affinity, and the 152 non-superboss unique monsters. In terms of the five superbosses, cheesing it with ether or topple-lock means that quite a few character permutations are viable (even Sharla can play).

  • @Robodob0
    @Robodob0 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Going all out with Reyn (player controlled), Dunban and Seven. :)

  • @myhr2320
    @myhr2320 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had good results while maining Sharla as a healtank with Dunban and Shulk, since they can use Final Flicker and Battle Soul very liberally to fill their talent gauge and kinda compensate for Sharla bad colour art variation, and even better, these are blue arts, so they chain well with Sharla.
    Let's be clear, by good results, I don't mean anything near the top teams, but still it works well, and just shows that any team can work if you really put the effort in it. Some just have it far far easier.
    Edit : also, you can make Melia IA work, even as a healer, but it requires a good understanding of her IA (she will usually go for the highest CD Summon and Copy it, then spam a low CD Summon, and you have to make her release by using the Focus command, and tell her to Summon again by going All-Out...yeah, a lot of micro-management, and nowhere near her true potential when mained, but still, usable).

  • @MrSleepyhead32
    @MrSleepyhead32 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My favorite is Melia, Dunban, and Fiora in that order.
    I love Melia's DoTs and her ability to topple by herself. If I get Fiora to max tension and have a chain attack ready, I use Spear Break, start the chain attack, them use Starlight Kick and then the other two topple arts. Then with the 4x Chain, I poison the enemy and then allow Dunban and Fiora to go ham with their red arts.
    Since toppled enemies have no evasion or ether resist, Final Cross in a chain attack is wonderful for the guaranteed criticals, heals, and topple duration.

  • @beoreon1
    @beoreon1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I feel like Sharla would become a much better player if her talent art fired off a bullet that drained her heat and did more damage the more heat she has on her rifle.

  • @gilbertguerrero2916
    @gilbertguerrero2916 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    That softlock LMFAO

    • @Implosion-Gaming
      @Implosion-Gaming 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Happened to me 2 times lol. Used to it with Xenoblade

  • @Xenohaste
    @Xenohaste 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    These guides are so useful but I wonder if you're going to cover how to use the combat features for future connected

    • @EnelXC
      @EnelXC  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm not sure there's all that much different to talk about haha

    • @Xenohaste
      @Xenohaste 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@EnelXC I'm not even sure how you're meant to use Monado arts without visions do enemies have tells now or something 🤔

  • @bylewisholland5729
    @bylewisholland5729 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ayyy another guide thanks man!

  • @handsomezack
    @handsomezack 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Now that I have the seventh party member I can finally watch these videos~

  • @quazar_galaxy
    @quazar_galaxy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i'm playing vanila Xenoblade a lot of times(5-7 times) with farming bosses, do all quests, experential with party gems, skills e.t.c.
    Best party: Melia(with right gems, skills and heavy armor) as a leader, controling by player, Dunban (tank with light armor, agro boost, debuff ether defence e.t.c) and Shulk.
    With good setup Melia hit Electrick attacks ` 100k+ and Dunban hold this agro, Chill + Earth poison do fast damage to booses. immune to damage Melia skill amazing if you get aggro.
    (sry for bad english )

  • @Mercurius19
    @Mercurius19 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is primarily about the end game, but I must say that when you fight through the Mechonis, I absolutely love playing as Dunban with Fiora as the second party member. With them, you can engage a huge group of Mechon, whittle one enemy's HP down to almost 0, start a chain attack, finish that one off with Demon Slayer which topples all the other enemies, and then use Mag Storm with Fiora to daze everyone. It's so satisfying, and you can often start another chain attack immediately afterward and keep everyone Daze-locked.

  • @lpfan4491
    @lpfan4491 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    tierlist:
    1.Reyn because now it's reyn time
    2.Everyone else except melia and sharla
    3.melia because you gotta control her
    4.sharla because she bad

  • @Silenthero66
    @Silenthero66 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm super casual compared to the strats in this game, but I really appreciate this video. I'll probably be coming back many times for reference in the future if I decide to go for these end game bosses, or if I just get stuck in the story.

  • @lucidx88
    @lucidx88 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video and have fun on your vacation!

  • @annabounds918
    @annabounds918 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Gosh I wish Sharla had more to her. I really like using her and she can do some really awesome things, but all the others are just objectively more effective. Ah well.

    • @myhr2320
      @myhr2320 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, she even has the slowest auto-attack speed, damn couldn't they give her just a second red art? Metal Blast would have been perfect for that.

  • @poofburrito7729
    @poofburrito7729 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Memes aside, Riki is actually busted. He’s a great tank, debuffer, AND he heals more than all of Sharla’s healing arts combined.

    • @myhr2320
      @myhr2320 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Nah, Sharla heals more, thankfully, since it's 80% of what she does. You can't take that away from her, even if I agree that Riki is much more flexible and powerful overall.

  • @brennancupp1610
    @brennancupp1610 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am all about Melia - Riki - Dunban. Getting all those dots on a super boss and watching their hp melt is very satisfying.

  • @cynicismkills
    @cynicismkills 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sharla only got to come with Dunban and Riki because they have my favorite interaction on victory.
    Dunban - And as one, we will always be victorious!
    Riki - Justice duo Riki and Dundun is here! Sharla have no scary!
    Dunban - Ha! That's right, Riki!
    Sharla - Good to have you with us, Dunban.
    Riki - W-what about Riki?

  • @808pitfallseed
    @808pitfallseed 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I honestly feel like the game is more fun without sharla because it becomes a lowkey dps race with you staying at a pretty low health for most of the fight (earlier in the game before you have all your skills and gems) and having to really plan out your chain attacks and art usage more to stay on top of the race rather than just winning a longer fight of attrition

  • @shadownz7374
    @shadownz7374 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, glad I found this after being stuck at THAT boss. I've paid for my insolence too many times.

  • @nift2923
    @nift2923 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Honestly if sharlas talent art slowly depleted over time and can be used in chain attacks it would honestly fix her completely imo

  • @johnsantos530
    @johnsantos530 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your content, bravo! 👏. Can you make a how to increase affinity between party members guide as effeciently or quickly as possible? Thank you. 😁

  • @JackgarPrime
    @JackgarPrime 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you could switch who you're controlling during a fight, I think we would see far more variety in valid teams. They should have found a way to do that for DE.

    • @rayneammar
      @rayneammar ปีที่แล้ว

      You must love xc3 haha

  • @chrislee9429
    @chrislee9429 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks so much for all of the amazing videos. You know your stuff!

  • @pendalink
    @pendalink 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    such a good breakdown, learned a ton

  • @jeffthejeffebruh3356
    @jeffthejeffebruh3356 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What I learned from this video is ... Dunban always use Dunban

  • @thespianmask
    @thespianmask 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've been running Shulk, Dunban Sharla, or Riki, Dunban, Sharla for the longest time. It's been hard, but I win the battles of attrition in the end. I'm exploring Mechonis now, and I've switched to Shulk, Dunban, Riki and I've been DEMOLISHING enemies and easily grinding now. Sometimes, I'm in the middle of a Monado animation, the Riki will Break the enemy on his own, and Dunban will topple them. They're pretty smart about setting things up when I'm locked in an animation.

  • @ghostinsideadream7236
    @ghostinsideadream7236 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So Cool.
    Thank you for these videos.
    Gem making be very helpful.
    An that colony restorations.
    Bravo.
    Cheers!

  • @pun-inator6075
    @pun-inator6075 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My go-to party tends to be seven, Dunban and Riki. I like this party because they have a good synergy in Seven and Durban having a lot of red arts for chain attacks. Seven and Riki build the chain attacks ridiculously fast. While healing isn't always needed, when it is, Riki does the job regardless of being on AI or lead and all three have a great AI (arguably the best in the game, although Ryen is also pretty good).
    As for their individual roles, Seven is my main damage dealer. A lot of people see her as a tank but as a protean, she can be built for multiple roles and Sword Drones X is massive damage-dealing attack. Maxing out Haste and Double attack through gems and having the usual Critical hit strategy through gems and skills. I tend to have her lead for the simple reason of wanting to ensure I have her talen art before a chain attack as obviously the main tactic is power through enemies and use chain attacks to take them down.
    Dunban is Dunban..... need I say more? He is the agility tank, sets up strength up for the team and should just be on any party really.
    Finally, Riki, as mentioned before he has the healing capability through you can do it but his main role is getting the chain attack up with happy happy and then everything else is just for fun. I tend to give him a good few red arts so he can keep the chain attack going with the other two and then his DOT arts like Lurgy & Burninate. Mainly because he easily sets them up when on AI and the chance to get an x5 say sorry is a lot of fun too, but it's not required as Seven is again the main damage dealer and Riki is to support. I also tend to give him an aura, which I tend to go with Play Dead as all his arts tend to gain aggro so he can easily drop it and let Dunban grab the focus again. I have had people say Melia can do DOT better which is true but as mentioned before, that is one of three roles Riki has, the other two Melia isn't nearly as skilled at doing. Plus, Riki gets DOT up quicker as Melia has to cast her elemental then discharge and has to be careful not to gain the aggro while Riki's natural HP means he can safely get the aggro and then use Play Dead to reduce it.
    When battling more ether-based enemies like Tylethia. I do swap out either Seven or Dunban for Melia (who is always the leader). I normally swap Seven because it's one damage dealer for another but if I do decide to swap Dunban instead then I swap Seven over to a semi-agility tank, although these are few and far between.
    One other major thing this team misses is the monado arts to handle visions but those are easily dealt with. I mean this because I wait out the timer and launch a chain attack to save the character if it would've been a killing blow. Or do it mid vision and get the damage rolling to take it down in one go. Of course, it doesn't always work perfectly but its a nice balanced team which covers pretty much all ground.

  • @thiccum2668
    @thiccum2668 ปีที่แล้ว

    One party i found sharla to actually be good in (blashpemous) was sharla, riki, reyn. It’s really slow but sharla and reyn tanking everything while riki chips away at hp with DOT works more than you’d think. Still not as good as the setups you mentioned but it’s decent.

  • @heavylobster4339
    @heavylobster4339 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    As far as regular playthroughs go, Shulk+Riki+Reyn/Dunban is also quite good as a general utility party with more durability than the typical Melia-based party and more healing than the typical physical party. It falls off somewhat in favor of the specialized ether and physical parties, but can be a good simple option for newer players just trying to get through the main story.

  • @jpegwarrior5431
    @jpegwarrior5431 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Love how Dunban's *0 Resist* Tempest Kick is still more useful than Sharla.

  • @obamaorb7426
    @obamaorb7426 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Damn I wish this game had a better challenge mode. Xenoblade 2 has such better side content almost purely because of it's challenge mode

  • @trentenkarren5161
    @trentenkarren5161 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Personally I think the best party comes down to personal preferance, my idea for the best party is shulk, dunban, and sharla.

  • @fernandobullanguero
    @fernandobullanguero 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I killed every superboss using Shulk, Dunban and Riki excepting Abaassy which I defeated with Sharla instead of Riki with a very defensive strategy that took me around 30 minutes xD

  • @silent_ice1190
    @silent_ice1190 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ah yes finally this game gets the recognition it deserves hopefully the last story and pandora’s towers gets the same attention

  • @seanflannery8587
    @seanflannery8587 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    If I remember correctly, I mainly ran reyn and shulk along with whoever I felt was necessary for boss fights. Something about magnum charge, berserker and sword drive gets me in the mood to play reyn, and I can just warn shulk for monado shield or speed without having to wait.

  • @cheke_hs
    @cheke_hs 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    One random fact you could've mentioned is that there are exactly 210 team setups in this game. There are 7 members, we choose 3 of them, and the order matters (for the party leader, chain links and so on). So we have permutations without repetition (since we can't choose the same character twice), which translates to 7!/(7-3)! => 7!/4! => 5040/24 => 210 :)

  • @Mr.Ben.
    @Mr.Ben. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Where as Shulk, Melia and Sharla are a terrible choice for a party"
    Me who is in what you would concider postgame with this as my main post game team and used sharla as a main stay the whole game: 'Interesting'
    (ps: my shulk is way higher level, and is the only one who can damege higher leveled enemies (EXP V gem). I thought they would have been good for support)

  • @arigato9127
    @arigato9127 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    #Question I noticed you use certain armour for Fiora. if I recall its speed cowling 2. Where can I obtain any of the speed cowling armour?

    • @EnelXC
      @EnelXC  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      gonna be honest I do not remember offhand but if you look it up on google the xenoblade wiki will have that info

  • @Tuskironi
    @Tuskironi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Talking about ai behavior was a good point to lead on, I usually consider the same thing in most jrpg's.

    • @myhr2320
      @myhr2320 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Xenoblade's IA could use a guide on its own, like how to unequip Shulk's Battle Soul, Melia Summon priorities, the effect of the Focus and All-out commands, what combos the IA can and can't do (Dunban IA can only use Thunder when sandwiched between ennemies, he'll never use Tempest Kick + Thunder for exemple).

  • @animekyle115
    @animekyle115 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My favorite team is the team I used to slay the Avalanche Abaasy in my original playthrough on the 3DS version: Shulk, Dunban & Fiora.

  • @SwashBuccaneer
    @SwashBuccaneer 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been having good luck with Shulk/Dunban/Riki on my first playthrough. I'm on chapter 10 now. So far so good lol

  • @soulktherealone6848
    @soulktherealone6848 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice Video! Just like always^_^

  • @GamingG4276
    @GamingG4276 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you don't mind Enel, I have a question. If you want a way to heal besides using Sharla, What is the best way for that? (I said besides Sharla because we all know she sucks.)

  • @Talokir
    @Talokir 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ok, so I honestly used Sharla to heal because I figured healing is a key factor in most rpgs. Then I watched these videos, swapped for Dunban, and I can't believe how much time I wasted with her

  • @Frostflame
    @Frostflame 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    7:05 Oh, yes. The sync. Oh, the music sync.

  • @Ativetah
    @Ativetah ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah as soon as I switched Sharla out (didn't use her long) I noticed a sizeable difference. She is so mid lol

  • @kouakouyanndaniel1425
    @kouakouyanndaniel1425 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fiora, dumban, shulk

  • @KaxMerg
    @KaxMerg 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Alright Enel is the GOAT Xenoblade youtuber, you heard it here first

  • @ossleepthread4679
    @ossleepthread4679 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love you

  • @Vinylmelody1517
    @Vinylmelody1517 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will you be doing videos on future connected? Including gem farming, how to use the characters with the changes to combat etc. Especially the ponspectors.

    • @EnelXC
      @EnelXC  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean I could but I didn't think a lot of that was particularly in need of a guide