It actually does make sense to have a humidity sensor on a phone you keep in your pocket. You can run an app that sounds an alarm if you piss yourself.
And let BlackView company know too (Their BV9500 firmware blatantly had spyware as when I switched off all data/updates/4G/etc and put a pay&go sim in it still ate all my credit.)
@@boarder2k7 I think that time has pretty well passed. I went from VZW to T Mobile, and get the same reception in the same places, it even got rid of a dead spot out in the desert. The company I work for has vehicle tracking devices, and switched from VZW to AT&T to get better coverage.
@@jaredkennedy6576 I'm sure this is probably pretty location dependent. Around here I'm better off with big red most of the time. I consistently have better coverage than my gf on AT&T. My neighbor got dropped (as in plan cancelled) by I forget who it was because they couldn't get him service at his house. Ended up on VZ. They're bloody expensive though
@@TheBrightPixel I am for the most part. There are a couple of weird things. When someone sends me a screenshot of another text they received it is not clear to read. Almost like the quality is not detailed enough. One time I had to re insert the sim card. Other than those two little things everything else works great.
@@maybeso1547 Cheers for the reply! Ok, if that's really the worst of the phone, then I'm up for one. I'll order a wireless charger as well so the seal on the USB port stays waterproof
I have had this phone for three months. Verizon works here in Texas. Flir is sensitive enough to see footprints on carpet after walking away. FM radio built in and headphones are antenna. After taking pics in Flir you can swipe down and see image without thermal. You can also see temps through a clear screen, different color options for heat and cold. Great phone so far.
I have the Black view BV9600 Pro. I have put it through a LOT!! Stick it in with the dishes every once and a while... Still works like day one. Love mine.
Android 10 is available for the BV9900 pro EU version, and other than having to clear the data for both camera apps, I haven't had any problems. However from some comments on the Blackview forum, some have had problems with the phone randomly turning off after the upgrade. I agree with you about using a case, the other essential accessory is a belt to hold your pants up when its in your pocket, as it's an absolute brick. I used AliExpress, as some vendors offered delivery from Spain for a quick shipping. The thermal camera is good for finding where the dog did it's business so I can clean up after it.
i wonder if you can replace the lepton used in the blackview with a lepton 3.5 for the higher resolution. it seems quite integrated in software, blackview doesnt give any sdk / apis for it which makes custom roms a rare half working thing, and the usual flir apps wont recognize the sensor at all, just the one they have allready installed. havent tried the flir sdk yet
@@bigclivedotcom I've found www.devicespecifications.com/ to be very useful to compare mobile phones, but the site doesn't appear to know about the FLIR sensor either.
Thank you for making this video. I searched so much for a good review of the phone, but youtube was filled with videos with "stock" footage from blackview's official channel and no actual hands-on review and testing of the phone. For the less known Chinese phones it's impossible to find trustworthy reviewers and you reviewing the BV9900 is pure luck! Thank you again for taking your time.
Blackview's phones are absolutely indestructible, I have a BV9600 pro and I've been running it caseless and without a screen protector and it has held up to a ton of abuse. Lots of hard drops on concrete, rocks, etc, and it has not cracked the screen at all. It literally just has some dents in the metal frame. My only real complaint is the really hard to find, *slightly longer* USB-C head required for it.
The USB type C (long) port is IP68 waterproof. The outer cap is just a dust cap. It's fine to get water in the USB port. The camera is an absolute joy to have. I also have the Samsung S20+ Ultra 5G which is vastly superior other than the fact that it has no FLIR and isn't usable as an underwater camera. I'm definitely enjoying the BV 9900 Pro and I got the Android 10 version. It has been having crashing issues so you might want to wait a bit and see if it improves. Overall I have no regerts. I would definitely be interested in a higher resolution model. And at around half the price of the S20 it's a good deal (BV 9900 Pro Android 10 Non-EU app $700 Cdn).
Mine died from water damage. it was 2 minutes in 20 cm of water. Fortunately got a full refund from amazon. But i also have a BV9500 and it has a sealed port.
Not really. While it stops ingress, unless your are very quick to clean properly it corrodes the port. It's done this on 2 rugged IP68 phones I've had and just leads to issues charging. That said, this has wireless charging.
@@lukebarton371 Interesting...I will definitely watch out for this issue. I wonder if there is any way to provide Cathodic (don't pray for it, it's not Catholic) Protection. Could someone develop an Inconel type C USB plug with a Zinc slug inside? Probably just gave away a Million... no, make that a BILLION dollar idea. XD
A few years ago I looked at getting a CAT phone, but due to negative reviews and the cost, I opted to get an add-on FLIR camera that plugs into the micro-USB port of my ancient Samsung Galaxy. It works quite well, the caveats being the camera needs to be charged separately, is more delicate than a built-in, and the need to carry an extra piece of equipment. I am not an engineer by trade, but like to tinker with electronics and cars, and even if I didn't, it's a great toy. I borrowed a FLIR camera from the facility manager where I worked some years back and was hooked. It's fun just looking at everyday objects with it. Beyond the electronic and other applications for it, I can see how much energy my home is losing or if a radiator has an air bubble or flow problem. Who knew trees are significantly warmer than the rest of the environment, even in the dead of winter? Just very cool.
Thanks, good points. But anytime I have dangly / dongly bits, I either break them or lose them. So, yeah, I ordered one of these phones, despite the lower resolution :-)
hey clive a little advice, use your middle finger on your left hand, it isnt as likely to get damaged, i had to do this on my old s6, i kept both middle fingers registered to prevent it from forgetting me
@@Azlehria I've had a scar on my ring fingertip since 1996 when I accidentally drove a screwdriver bit into it. Even after all those years it's as obvious as it was then. :-/
@@AAAyyyGGG I got a pinched line through one of my ring fingerprints where I cut it to the bone back in the '90s. But I keep adding more, not always temporary, changes to my index, middle, and thumb prints on both hands, and several times I've nearly lost one or the other pinky entirely. I've actually been tempted at times to see if I can scan my _nose_ as a "backup fingerprint". Those are a lot harder to lose.
you looked at it? that's very rude of you, shame! Also after reading that comment I totally blanked on what my unlock pattern was, had a small panic attack 😅 thankfully it came back after staring at my phone for a couple of seconds.
I've had the BV9800 Pro for about six months now, and have come to like it quite heavily. I purposefully went with the 9800 because of the larger battery life. In the states the only major carrier SIM I can get to work is T-Mobile, and even they didn't know if it would, so they let me test it out in the store first. Figured I'd share this, as it was quite a hunt to find a carrier that would even /try/ to put a SIM in it. Overall quite happy with it, worst bit was finding a decent case and screen protector for it, as the screen protector it comes with has such weak adhesive that it even slides off in my work pants, which have very spacious pockets. Having a thermal imager with you at all times is very handy for maintenance tech work.
I just ordered a ulefone armour 9 will be interesting to see how it goes. Bloody hell mate it's got me stumped why you haven't got over a million subs yet. Love ya work mate!
Clive sold me on BlackView, though I went with the BV9800 Pro for the larger battery and IR blaster. Just ordered it. My last phone was a Doogee S90 that's about 22 months old. Not bad for $400, especially the add-on modules that clip on to the back. Only flaw from the start was I could never get Google Pay NFC to work. Unfortunately it now has a fault in the circuitry that randomly makes it think I've attached a module, triggering a pop-up message - sometimes multiple times per second. Can't find any way to disable the pop-up, and it's INCREDIBLY counter-productive. Previously used a Cat S60 for a couple years. The battery on that one died and there was no way to power it on. Thought about replacing the battery but it was rather under-powered in general. Have definitely missed the FLIR camera though. Used it for diagnosing diesel engines, PCBs, and identifying circuit breakers (plug in vacuum, look at breaker box)
I really hope some big manufacturers start including thermal cameras in their phones. Because that would mean they could justify actually developing the technology the way they have developed the regular camera market. What I want is a 60FPS 1920x1080 THERMAL resolution camera IN A SMARTPHONE for under 1000$. At the rate thermal cameras are evolving currently, we will get that about 2 weeks after never. And yes, more resolution is very useful. With enough resolution you no longer need an additional camera for edge detection and you can get much more details from far away.
The problem is the physical size. The sensor in the BV 9900 is about as large as the surface area on your pinky finger. A high speed thermal camera (9000 FPS, stunning!) has a sensor about the size of a side plate. The difference is astonishing. The only advance I can see coming down the line is AI and extremely fast signal processing to help smooth out and fill in the image. Even with a really good camera and sensor you are still dealing with an absolutely enormous wavelength 'size'. Like trying to see an object by bouncing bowling balls off of it compared to bouncing tiny BB's for visible light.
@@seanb3516 Well the idea would be that the sensors would also become smaller as well. 1080p is only 2M pixels while smartphones can absolutely have 12M pixels for visible light these days. So I'm sure it would be possible. Especially the costs need to come down massively as well, which they would if it was more common.
On the fire/rescue side, I am quite interested in things with thermal imaging. Super handy if you roll up on something (as I am on a very small/rural department) without an apparatus
You can add wildlife monitoring. When we had a bunch of Coyote attacks I went to look for them at night regularly. Not something I would recommend for most people. You need to be ready for 'dog' type attacks, flanks, etc. Had a whole lotta fun with the camera though. I also use it for 'Fire Watch' after the Roofers have applied Torch-On roofing.
Ever tried the Seek thermal cameras (small camera module which plugs into phone USB port)? Bought one about 6 years ago. Reasonable high res sensor, which I think they've since upgraded.
i ordered the bv9900 pro the week they came out. really handy thing to carry and dropped multiple times without any real damage. dropped in bath a couple times and was perfect again once the speaker dried out.
Oh man, think about of how much fun your mates and workmates are missing out on, now that you’ve changed that pattern...😁 just in case they watch your videos...
Altitude from barometric pressure needs to be calibrated to a known height but can then be more accurate to altitude than GPS. It needs to be calibrated because sea level pressure changes with the weather but the graduation of pressure as you go higher can be used to give extremely accurate altitude.
Have this phone, I am an electrician, durability as advertised. Battery life is great much better than Apple or Samsung. No issues with processor speed or storage. Has unique feature of using sd card as removable storage or extension of phone storage. Thermal camera may have it's uses haven't needed it yet except as a toy. Phone is thicker and heavier than flagship phones which I personally like. Cost half as much.
I have been going back and forth between the Armor 9 and the BV9900 Pro and I think I have finally settled on the 9900 pro. It's a hare smaller than the Armor it has wireless charging and I can have it in a week where the Armor 9 is a month away coming from China. I really enjoy your videos. Been subbed on my main account for many years.
@@bigclivedotcom Awesome. I am just doing a little more research to make sure it will work on T-mobile here in the US. I know Verision has issues and I have read that ATT has been blocking numerous brands on their network. Seems they only want brands that pay to be on their network. Unfortunately we don't have true GSM networks here in the US.
very informative video Clive. I learnt a lot from your video and help me make my decision to plump for the 9800Pro, only for the battery capacity as I go hiking and away from power a bit. Appreciate your time to make this. thanks
Thanks to your last video I got myself a Cat S60 for my work phone and it's been absolutely wonderful for work! Thank you BigClive and lmao thanks for making a cool new vid on my birthday 😄💕
I love my bv9900 pro. The thermal camera makes screening for covid-19 easy. And being able to easily wash it when I wash my hands means my phone is clean as well
Thank you sir, your video is very useful and I will buy a phone with a thermal camera, I was looking for this, to detect faults in electronic circuits. Very well done your video, it helped me a lot, thanks again!
I was on the fence about getting this phone, but this non-shill review tipped the balance. I'm on AT&T in the Dover Delaware USA so I think i'll be fine? I did read a couple comments on reddit about maybe not getting VoLTE to work, which might be a problem in 2022 when AT&T kills its 3G, but at least it'll still be a thermal camera. I think all of us that commented that we got the phone after this video should make a reply comment in a couple months with our own short review of how we like it and what carrier/region used. Curious to see how the technical family thinks of it after a few months of time.
Thank you for that Big Clive was looking at buying one of these but reluctant to pay without an independent review from the kind of a guy that I would go for a pint with...purchase complete ..🍻
@@DJunclepaul2nd so far so good it's software is clunky in comparison to the Samsung I'm used ....it recently survived a 3m fall onto concrete paving which would have killed any other phone. I have read some negative reviews online regarding support luckily I have not required any to date.
Relax and Chill Out... as you speak about the heart rate! Thanks for the good laugh! Appreciate this non shill review you've stopped my delay of analyzing. Much obliged.
Thankyou so much for this review! Very informative and loving your accent 😉 The best tough phone ive ever had was a Kyocera Torque. It was AMAZING! it took a beating over the 3 years I had it and the screen is still like new. However progress marches on. I'm in the UK and I couldn't get hold of their latest handsets for love nor money. And now they seem to have pulled out of the tough phone market altogether. So here we are trying to find a new trusty brand for tough phones. I'm going to give this BV9900pro a chance. Thankyou for your review, it helped me alot in making up my mind. Thanks!
I'd like to see comparison for close view of circuit boards with thermal imaging. Only problem with using it as an add-on to a phone is the fact we buy a new phone every few years. It would be nice to think an imaging camera would last a little longer, not expiring when the phone dies.
I use the Blackview BV9500, had it about 2 years now. I love it, heavy as hell and a massive 3 to 4 day battery. Like the look of this one, but I need a headphone jack...
Hm, I was hoping to use the 9900 with a BT headset -- which has worked well in the past, on other kit. Is there some other reason (selfie stick?) you need a headphone jack, please? Also, Ebay etc. have cheap USB-C to 3.5mm jack socket adaptors.
Depth of field on a camera is related to the aperture. Having a wide depth of field usually just means it has a small aperture and poor light gathering ability. This is where the focal length matters. You may end up having a phone with a longer focal length lense further away from your bench, and thus get a wider depth of field.
I had one of the ruggedized blackveiwa previously, they're pretty good phones actually, they don't have the most processing power or the most ram but they're damn sturdy
I've had the Cat S6 for a couple years now. Main flaws for me are that it gets ridiculously hot when plugged into a charger and using an app like Waze at the same time and the lack of wireless charging; the usb port cover on mine was torn of in a few months. That already puts the Blackview ahead of the the Cat for me. Thanks for the review Clive. Might be looking into getting the BV when I retire my S6.
20:39 - No, it wouldn't be a better description. If it's _hanging_ from the ceiling, it's a chandelier. If it's _standing_ on a table (or on a piano behind Liberace), it's a candelabra (well, technically a candelabrum, since candelabra is plural).
@@bigclivedotcom - That's still a chandelier. "chandelier (n.): a decorative hanging light with branches for several light bulbs or candles." No crystals required. If it's hanging, it's a chandelier. The word does come from the same root as candelabrum, but we only hang them if they came via France. ;)
Have used IR cameras to show people the hazards of extension cords, doubled extension cords. I use one once or twice a year to identify air leaks and places that require more insulation in the home. Best money a person can spend for troubleshooting and ease of carry and use.
I've put my BV9900 through hell and back in the past year. Dropped from over 15 feet up straight onto concrete (no case) and this absolute unit of a phone was completely unphased. I use screen protectors just because I'm a clean screen freak. Its been dunked in lakes and just hasn't cared. I literally can't kill lol
On risks of chargers: Lightning struck near my home. That zapped a buch of my electronics and smoked (litterally could smell) my cell phone charger sending what felt like 120vac down the usb cable zapping my fingers thus causing me to involuntarilly sending the phone flying across the room. Now a little plastic (loved your cellphone condom comment) probably wouldn't protect from a direct lightning strike but would have protected my fingers from the 120vac. Surprisingly the cell phone survived both the 120vac and the impact against the other side of the room.
I have a CAT S60 brought it cheap and broken. Was just a dead battery preventing it from turning on. Easy swap from China and like new working well :) love the phone and comes in externally handy! Essential for PC/phone repairs
I bought the cat s60 because it was built tough. I ended up using the flir a lot. More then i thought i would. It lasted 4 years. Thats longer then any phone i have ever had. Dropped on cement a lot. Finally it quit charging. I want to get the s61 but they are still expensive.
This outperforms the CAT S61 at a significantly lower price. I get the feeling that their new CAT S62 would have been much more expensive if they didn't have competition.
@@bigclivedotcom awesome. I am currently using a galaxy s10+. I like it but it is fragile and i really miss the flir camera. I hope all manufacturers start soon so the option to have it is not so limited. I see the s62 in not available yet in the usa. Ill have to check the specs and price when it does get here and compare to that bv9900
I think the hardware navigation buttons (recents, home, back) are mechanical on the CAT S61 for a reason. I think it's more important to have a mechanical feedback from these buttons than from a charging port flap.
I considered both of those when I replaced my Kyocera Duraforce Pro 2, but ended up going with the Ulefone Armor 9 - it's like carrying a battle tank in my pocket. 😂🤣 It also has flir, comes with an endoscope, case, charger, etc. Loving it so far.
Coming up on 1.5 years with the Ulefone Armor 9, and it's still going strong, still waterproof, and still pristine screen with no cracks, which is amazing because I'm extremely tough on phones. No overheating issues, no storage space issues (still haven't put an SD card in), and battery is still doing great, staying charged almost all day despite watching & listening to TH-cam all day (I'm a CDL driver). Still HIGHLY recommend if you don't mind a big, heavy phone. 👍👍👍
I have a Cat S60. I have had it for 6 years and those phones have major issues. The "carbon fibre" backing was just a texture that peeled off... The headphone cover and charging port aluminium came off too.
pixels binning also reduces noise - if the 4 red pixels instead was 3 red but one ends up green because of noise, then the the binned pixel still end up red and the noise is removed..
After I saw your review of the CAT 61 I purchased a CAT 62 which dose not have the gas sensor or the cover for the C type usb but is still water proof. The Ulefone that I had previously had an underwater camera facility,something I only tried in the sink as I am not sure you could realy go scuba diving with a phone.
Bonus points for hiding unlocking after unlolcking on screen a couple of minutes before. Could you point the thermal camera at the other phone screen after you have touched that to see if you can track anything.
The phone thermal camera is really a great, with nice software features. The use of the phone for office application and multimedia is rather limited. Application like: Outlook 365, One Drive for business are not working at all (won’t synchronize). Teams works OK. Bluetooth is rather unreliable, where the headphones are not bale to synchronize, or synchronize occasionally.
Got the bv9500 it's good, will not work with Verizon and somewhat limited on frequently. Flir android usb c module works the same with the phone and also transferable to other android phones. Case is useless to me phone is very large already and won't fit in most holders used rubber paint instead
Which phone as you know, is more simple to open and to take out the FLIR Lepton camera? I need to use it with a Raspberry Pi to put on my drone. CAT or BlackView?
@@bigclivedotcom I know I can buy the modules, but if I buy one of these two phones, BV9900 Pro or CAT 62 Pro, as you know, is it possible to take it out easy? Because I don't know if it is better to take out from a FLIR ONE or from a phone
I picked up the BV9800pro. After a week I returned it for the 9900pro. It turns out they're not going to update the 9800 to Android 10 and I had come from a Note 10 with Android 10. Going back to 9 felt odd and I had a hard time adjusting. BV9900pro is working great for me.
Very nice video. I just bought myself a Bosch Professional GTC 400C Thermal Camera which does an amazing job and is much cheaper than an equivalent FLIR. If I was able to purchase one of the Blackbiews here in Australia I think I'll be getting one as my next mobile.
I would love to have FLIR, it would make troubleshooting breaker panels much quicker, but more than my budget will allow, and Ebenezer sure won't pop for one, awesome videos Big C👍
Are you certain about the laser rangefinders using time of flight? AFAIK they all use a standard rangefinder that triangulates the distance using the distance between the transmitter and receiver. Actually getting a measurement in inches, which my rangefinder does, would require a time resolution of a fraction of a nanosecond. (Remember Admiral Hopper's favorite prop?) You'd have to be in the 10-20 GHz range, and that's rather tricky to work with.
Time of flight is not hard to implement at all, that is if you can fabricate CMOS chips with tiny structures. All you need is a long delay line of gates (simple inverters), an equally long line of latches, and a precision adjustable one-shot delay. The latches all have the same propagation delay so they can take a "snapshot" of the line of inverters, each of which has a picosecond range propagation delay. By taking that "snapshot" with increasing delays from sending out the laser you can zero in on the delay setting necessary to put the reflection arrival within the snapshot. That delay is the rough part of the measurement and then the number of inverters away from the start of the delay line becomes the fine part. Lots of averaged samples can filter out most jitter and there you go. This technique can produce sub-picosecond resolution using traditional CMOS structures. My lab used to have time domain reflectometry (think of a rangefinder that tells you about about the transmission characteristics along the entire line of flight path) with a sample resolution of roughly 100 femtoseconds.... yes, you read that correctly. In 100 femtoseconds, light in a vacuum will traverse the width of 4 average red blood cells.
i like the idea of Catphones.. but i've had 2 the past 2 years.. S60 and s61.. and i had to repair them 4 times total (underwarranty).. and now that my s61 is out of warranty.. it died again. Maybe ill try Blackview now but no MORE CAT, never had issues of my phones breaking before and i don't treat them badly.
Keep an eye on the Ulefone Armor range of phones. Similarly ruggedised phones. I have the Armor 7 and it's excellent. Their new model has thermal imaging.
I had the bv9900 pro but had issues after upgraded to android 10. Was able to return and now I have the Ulefone armour 9. In my opinion the Ulefone is a better device, the battery is bigger and give me 3 days between charges.. Good video though.
Great review. Have the 9800pro, with a 6350mAh batt, p70 and 6gb ram. Loving it ! Using the FLIR is amazing, wish there was a way to disable the optical overlay. Lasts for 2 days easy. Oh, what are your thoughts on battery charge percentage limits ? Read somewhere to charge to a max of 80% Cheers for the vids !
It's generally considered that by charging to less than 100% a battery will last a much higher number of charge cycles. It would be nice if stopping the charge at 90% was a standard Android feature, but many manufacturers rely on the battery losing capacity progressively over time to sell new phones.
I use the earlier CAT S60. I love the thermal camera and the fact that when I got the phone it was priced at the same level as FLIR's entry level standalone thermal cameras. The BV9900 Pro looks very interesting, the Qi charging is a missed opportunity in the CAT phones. Having to open a flap every time the phone needs a charge will eventually wear out the seal in the flap.
Also have a look at the bv9800 pro. I have that one now. And so far its just is an great phone. And its more than fast enough. And the battery lasts for ages. And dropping it. Well it just doesnt care😂
I don’t know about you, but I wouldn’t try taking his phone and unlocking it. But even if someone did, RIP that person, for reasons I wish I didn’t imagine.
I also bought a BV9900pro from Aliexpress on a good deal. Was lucky and didn't get stung with customs charges and also got 5% cashback by using Topcashback. Anyway, it is the best Android phone I've used so far. Comparing it to my last phone, a Samsung S7 edge, the only features that the Samsung has over the BV is that it has the blood oxygen sensor, the standard headphone jack (but you can get decent Bluetooth headphones cheaply these days) and I found that the Samsung's main camera took slightly better photos on the default point and shoot mode. But the BV is noticeably quicker at running apps, doesn't come with all the samsung apps that you can't totally get rid of on a Samsung phone etc. The BV also feels more substantial than the Samsung and that battery life, so far, is far superior. The FLIR cam is a useful addition to a mobile and its surprising how much you use it now that you have access to one in your pocket. I managed to "see" a wasps bike just under a neighbours roan pipe! And it will come in handy to better insulate the house by "seeing" the heat leaks from any windows and doors come the winter. Would definitely recommend Blackview if this is their standards at phones. It's going to be interesting to see what the next evolution will be and what other features they will include. Wideband scanner radio built in? PMR446 built in? Wider COB led torch?
It actually does make sense to have a humidity sensor on a phone you keep in your pocket. You can run an app that sounds an alarm if you piss yourself.
Also, it could be good resource for apps like Tinder as a way to enable "automatic matchmaking" while on the go
And let BlackView company know too
(Their BV9500 firmware blatantly had spyware as when I switched off all data/updates/4G/etc and put a pay&go sim in it still ate all my credit.)
If you need a phone to tell you that you pissed yourself get ur ass to hospital lol
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You clearly haven't had a drinking problem!
@@dontnubblemebro no such thing as a drinking problem, its a lack of nearby useable bog's, that's the ultimate problem lol
The more a phone comes closer to a tricorder the more I like it.
Absolutely. They need more gadgets.
@@bigclivedotcom Damnit, Michael, I'm a bear not a doctor.
I miss my old flip phone, it was like using a communicator from Star Trek.
@@tncorgi92 - You can still get new flip phones today. They've come back into popularity for those who are sick of too many gadgets.
@@tncorgi92 Can't recall the make, but mine had a push button spring-loaded flip top.
You should add thermal images the next time you cook something at 240 volts.
Please add thermal videos whenever there is heat involved (when bursting batteries, when cooking, when testing cat food preferences).
The light from the arcs would literally destroy the thermal sensor
@@UnrealVideoDuke Would it? Isn't it just a higher wave length which the sensor ignores? I don't really know how thermal radiation works.
To be honest, if you're using Verizon, the phone itself is the least of your aggravations.
Absolutely. I got my phone because it suits my needs, and not working on VZW was just a bonus.
Yeah I really hate that people can call me in a bunch of places my friends on other networks can hide with no annoying calls coming in...
@@boarder2k7 I think that time has pretty well passed. I went from VZW to T Mobile, and get the same reception in the same places, it even got rid of a dead spot out in the desert. The company I work for has vehicle tracking devices, and switched from VZW to AT&T to get better coverage.
@@jaredkennedy6576 I'm sure this is probably pretty location dependent. Around here I'm better off with big red most of the time. I consistently have better coverage than my gf on AT&T. My neighbor got dropped (as in plan cancelled) by I forget who it was because they couldn't get him service at his house. Ended up on VZ. They're bloody expensive though
No longer a problem in the UK as selling a phone locked to a network will be a crime.
I did a search for vendors of this phone in the UK. I found one that described it as "rogerized".
See- if it was 'reggie-ized', I'd be suspicious.
Maybe it means it's fucked. 😁
@Tommy Salami Only the condom covee option provides some limited pritection
Maybe it is from Canada and works with Rogers? :)
Don't buy it, it's been buggered.
Still annoyed FLIR insists on burning their logo into the stills and video from their devices.
I have this phone and you can take off that tag in the settings.
@@maybeso1547 Are you also happy with the phone? I'm about to pull the trigger.
@@TheBrightPixel I am for the most part. There are a couple of weird things. When someone sends me a screenshot of another text they received it is not clear to read. Almost like the quality is not detailed enough. One time I had to re insert the sim card. Other than those two little things everything else works great.
@@maybeso1547 Cheers for the reply! Ok, if that's really the worst of the phone, then I'm up for one. I'll order a wireless charger as well so the seal on the USB port stays waterproof
@@TheBrightPixel ok. But it comes with a rubber seal over the USB C port.
The S61 I have did put the air quality warning every time I used hand sanitizer so I had to turn it off.
The VOC sensors can detect ethanol.
the way you said Verizon was amusing.
Yes it’s pronounced Ver-Rise-On
When I first heard Americans say it on podcasts I thought they were saying Horizon.
I prefer Clive's pronunciation and I shall be using it from now on
@@majorkev I shall do my part to proliferate this pronunciation through the states.
It is now officially pronounced Very-zon. As in "Much wow, very zon."
I have had this phone for three months. Verizon works here in Texas. Flir is sensitive enough to see footprints on carpet after walking away. FM radio built in and headphones are antenna. After taking pics in Flir you can swipe down and see image without thermal. You can also see temps through a clear screen, different color options for heat and cold. Great phone so far.
I have the Black view BV9600 Pro. I have put it through a LOT!! Stick it in with the dishes every once and a while... Still works like day one. Love mine.
Android 10 is available for the BV9900 pro EU version, and other than having to clear the data for both camera apps, I haven't had any problems. However from some comments on the Blackview forum, some have had problems with the phone randomly turning off after the upgrade.
I agree with you about using a case, the other essential accessory is a belt to hold your pants up when its in your pocket, as it's an absolute brick.
I used AliExpress, as some vendors offered delivery from Spain for a quick shipping.
The thermal camera is good for finding where the dog did it's business so I can clean up after it.
There is a 160x120 version of the Lepton sensor
In the flir one pro?
i wonder if you can replace the lepton used in the blackview with a lepton 3.5 for the higher resolution. it seems quite integrated in software, blackview doesnt give any sdk / apis for it which makes custom roms a rare half working thing, and the usual flir apps wont recognize the sensor at all, just the one they have allready installed. havent tried the flir sdk yet
I think that's the one that Bullitt have used in the new Cat S62. It's always hard finding proper technical data on those phones though.
@@bigclivedotcom I've found www.devicespecifications.com/ to be very useful to compare mobile phones, but the site doesn't appear to know about the FLIR sensor either.
Yes i have the S62 and it has the lepton 3.5
4x the Resolution of the S61
Thank you for making this video. I searched so much for a good review of the phone, but youtube was filled with videos with "stock" footage from blackview's official channel and no actual hands-on review and testing of the phone. For the less known Chinese phones it's impossible to find trustworthy reviewers and you reviewing the BV9900 is pure luck! Thank you again for taking your time.
Agreed 100%
Blackview's phones are absolutely indestructible, I have a BV9600 pro and I've been running it caseless and without a screen protector and it has held up to a ton of abuse. Lots of hard drops on concrete, rocks, etc, and it has not cracked the screen at all. It literally just has some dents in the metal frame.
My only real complaint is the really hard to find, *slightly longer* USB-C head required for it.
don't take them snorkelling in the sea, despite the "underwater mode" in the menu, and "water proof" markings :) That was the end of my BV9900pro
Thank you, Clive! I love my new phone!
It took a month to ship, and I get giddy every time I open the FLIR app
Thank you so much for reviewing it, I bought a BL8800 pro recently instead of the cat and am very happy with it.
The USB type C (long) port is IP68 waterproof. The outer cap is just a dust cap. It's fine to get water in the USB port.
The camera is an absolute joy to have. I also have the Samsung S20+ Ultra 5G which is vastly superior other than the
fact that it has no FLIR and isn't usable as an underwater camera. I'm definitely enjoying the BV 9900 Pro and I got the Android 10 version.
It has been having crashing issues so you might want to wait a bit and see if it improves. Overall I have no regerts. I would definitely be
interested in a higher resolution model. And at around half the price of the S20 it's a good deal (BV 9900 Pro Android 10 Non-EU app $700 Cdn).
Mine died from water damage. it was 2 minutes in 20 cm of water. Fortunately got a full refund from amazon. But i also have a BV9500 and it has a sealed port.
Not really. While it stops ingress, unless your are very quick to clean properly it corrodes the port. It's done this on 2 rugged IP68 phones I've had and just leads to issues charging. That said, this has wireless charging.
@@lukebarton371 Interesting...I will definitely watch out for this issue.
I wonder if there is any way to provide Cathodic (don't pray for it, it's not Catholic) Protection.
Could someone develop an Inconel type C USB plug with a Zinc slug inside?
Probably just gave away a Million... no, make that a BILLION dollar idea. XD
A few years ago I looked at getting a CAT phone, but due to negative reviews and the cost, I opted to get an add-on FLIR camera that plugs into the micro-USB port of my ancient Samsung Galaxy. It works quite well, the caveats being the camera needs to be charged separately, is more delicate than a built-in, and the need to carry an extra piece of equipment. I am not an engineer by trade, but like to tinker with electronics and cars, and even if I didn't, it's a great toy. I borrowed a FLIR camera from the facility manager where I worked some years back and was hooked. It's fun just looking at everyday objects with it. Beyond the electronic and other applications for it, I can see how much energy my home is losing or if a radiator has an air bubble or flow problem. Who knew trees are significantly warmer than the rest of the environment, even in the dead of winter? Just very cool.
Thanks, good points. But anytime I have dangly / dongly bits, I either break them or lose them.
So, yeah, I ordered one of these phones, despite the lower resolution :-)
hey clive a little advice, use your middle finger on your left hand, it isnt as likely to get damaged, i had to do this on my old s6, i kept both middle fingers registered to prevent it from forgetting me
Based on my own scars, I think the ring finger may be the best backup fingerprint.
@@Azlehria I've had a scar on my ring fingertip since 1996 when I accidentally drove a screwdriver bit into it. Even after all those years it's as obvious as it was then. :-/
@@AAAyyyGGG I got a pinched line through one of my ring fingerprints where I cut it to the bone back in the '90s. But I keep adding more, not always temporary, changes to my index, middle, and thumb prints on both hands, and several times I've nearly lost one or the other pinky entirely.
I've actually been tempted at times to see if I can scan my _nose_ as a "backup fingerprint". Those are a lot harder to lose.
@@Azlehria If he was still alive, Michael Jackson would've disagreed...
@@Mediamarked Please note that I did _not_ say "impossible".
Clive goes off screen 13:33 and says ' hold on while I unlock this', using the same reversed L which he used earlier in the video. Yeah!
Who is this Cliff person you speak of? I only saw Clive.
you looked at it? that's very rude of you, shame!
Also after reading that comment I totally blanked on what my unlock pattern was, had a small panic attack 😅 thankfully it came back after staring at my phone for a couple of seconds.
Trueee
@@phydeux Edited, thanks.
00:30 - a truly useful tool to check whether your heater is on :)
I've had the BV9800 Pro for about six months now, and have come to like it quite heavily. I purposefully went with the 9800 because of the larger battery life.
In the states the only major carrier SIM I can get to work is T-Mobile, and even they didn't know if it would, so they let me test it out in the store first. Figured I'd share this, as it was quite a hunt to find a carrier that would even /try/ to put a SIM in it.
Overall quite happy with it, worst bit was finding a decent case and screen protector for it, as the screen protector it comes with has such weak adhesive that it even slides off in my work pants, which have very spacious pockets. Having a thermal imager with you at all times is very handy for maintenance tech work.
With Verizon, if you have an odd device it's often easiest to swap the SIM from another working device.
I just ordered a ulefone armour 9 will be interesting to see how it goes. Bloody hell mate it's got me stumped why you haven't got over a million subs yet. Love ya work mate!
Clive sold me on BlackView, though I went with the BV9800 Pro for the larger battery and IR blaster. Just ordered it.
My last phone was a Doogee S90 that's about 22 months old. Not bad for $400, especially the add-on modules that clip on to the back. Only flaw from the start was I could never get Google Pay NFC to work. Unfortunately it now has a fault in the circuitry that randomly makes it think I've attached a module, triggering a pop-up message - sometimes multiple times per second. Can't find any way to disable the pop-up, and it's INCREDIBLY counter-productive.
Previously used a Cat S60 for a couple years. The battery on that one died and there was no way to power it on. Thought about replacing the battery but it was rather under-powered in general. Have definitely missed the FLIR camera though. Used it for diagnosing diesel engines, PCBs, and identifying circuit breakers (plug in vacuum, look at breaker box)
Google pay does work on the BV9900 Pro.
I'm already a fan of your videos, but this video came up when I was researching new phones. Thanks again, mate!
Clive " I like it " I guess that is as good as it gets :)
"Really quite good" is another valuable and rarely used compliment.
The Clive " I Like it" stamp of approval without taking it to bits ...means something 👍🏻😏
I really hope some big manufacturers start including thermal cameras in their phones. Because that would mean they could justify actually developing the technology the way they have developed the regular camera market. What I want is a 60FPS 1920x1080 THERMAL resolution camera IN A SMARTPHONE for under 1000$. At the rate thermal cameras are evolving currently, we will get that about 2 weeks after never.
And yes, more resolution is very useful. With enough resolution you no longer need an additional camera for edge detection and you can get much more details from far away.
The problem is the physical size. The sensor in the BV 9900 is about as large as the surface area on your pinky finger. A high speed thermal camera (9000 FPS, stunning!) has a sensor about the size of a side plate. The difference is astonishing. The only advance I can see coming down the line is AI and extremely fast signal processing to help smooth out and fill in the image. Even with a really good camera and sensor you are still dealing with an absolutely enormous wavelength 'size'. Like trying to see an object by bouncing bowling balls off of it compared to bouncing tiny BB's for visible light.
@@seanb3516 Well the idea would be that the sensors would also become smaller as well. 1080p is only 2M pixels while smartphones can absolutely have 12M pixels for visible light these days. So I'm sure it would be possible.
Especially the costs need to come down massively as well, which they would if it was more common.
On the fire/rescue side, I am quite interested in things with thermal imaging. Super handy if you roll up on something (as I am on a very small/rural department) without an apparatus
You can add wildlife monitoring. When we had a bunch of Coyote attacks I went to look for them at night regularly.
Not something I would recommend for most people. You need to be ready for 'dog' type attacks, flanks, etc.
Had a whole lotta fun with the camera though. I also use it for 'Fire Watch' after the Roofers have applied Torch-On roofing.
Ever tried the Seek thermal cameras (small camera module which plugs into phone USB port)? Bought one about 6 years ago. Reasonable high res sensor, which I think they've since upgraded.
I received mine this morning, 18 days after ordering it from Banggood Nov 2nd for £330.
It has Android 10, and the FLIR camera seems to work happily.
i ordered the bv9900 pro the week they came out. really handy thing to carry and dropped multiple times without any real damage. dropped in bath a couple times and was perfect again once the speaker dried out.
0:35 "I use it when I should be sleeping", and its 1:12am on the phone he is reviewing LOL
Thermal camera, I have seen it used to point to bad cells in a battery, heating up due to high internal resistance.
Love how you say verizon. If you didnt say american; I wouldnt have known.
(Ver rise un) verizon. Lol.
@@leightonboster3332 Knew an Asian who said horizon as ho-ri-zon.
@@leightonboster3332 right
@@leightonboster3332 who knows maybe us Americans are saying it wrong since are English is broken and not original
Obviously do not have the Verizon ads in the Isle of Man. In the US you hear the word on every other ad.
You forgot to hide your unlock pattern at 10:00, but then you hid it later in the video. Might want to change it.
@tester123532456 nope
well If your game enough to steal this phone of a big bear , I'm mean Big Clive you better have your Health insurance paid up!
Yes, just in cause someone gets the phone and sees all those pictures of naked PCB's, stripped wires and naughty electronics :D
It was an old pattern I put in for the video, knowing I would inevitably unlock it in shot.
Oh man, think about of how much fun your mates and workmates are missing out on, now that you’ve changed that pattern...😁 just in case they watch your videos...
Altitude from barometric pressure needs to be calibrated to a known height but can then be more accurate to altitude than GPS. It needs to be calibrated because sea level pressure changes with the weather but the graduation of pressure as you go higher can be used to give extremely accurate altitude.
Have this phone, I am an electrician, durability as advertised. Battery life is great much better than Apple or Samsung. No issues with processor speed or storage. Has unique feature of using sd card as removable storage or extension of phone storage. Thermal camera may have it's uses haven't needed it yet except as a toy. Phone is thicker and heavier than flagship phones which I personally like. Cost half as much.
S61 also have barometer you can access it in "accurate altimeter" or another app.
I have been going back and forth between the Armor 9 and the BV9900 Pro and I think I have finally settled on the 9900 pro. It's a hare smaller than the Armor it has wireless charging and I can have it in a week where the Armor 9 is a month away coming from China. I really enjoy your videos. Been subbed on my main account for many years.
The BV9900 Pro is my daily driver. I charge it with inductive charging.
@@bigclivedotcom Awesome. I am just doing a little more research to make sure it will work on T-mobile here in the US. I know Verision has issues and I have read that ATT has been blocking numerous brands on their network. Seems they only want brands that pay to be on their network. Unfortunately we don't have true GSM networks here in the US.
very informative video Clive. I learnt a lot from your video and help me make my decision to plump for the 9800Pro, only for the battery capacity as I go hiking and away from power a bit. Appreciate your time to make this. thanks
Thanks to your last video I got myself a Cat S60 for my work phone and it's been absolutely wonderful for work! Thank you BigClive and lmao thanks for making a cool new vid on my birthday 😄💕
For the next phone i would suggest an blackvieuw. Also a bit cheaper🙃😂
@@DiyNuke it's not about how cheap the phone is, I needed that thermal camera more than anything for my job
@@broken_font1881 ah yeah then anything will do😂
I love my bv9900 pro. The thermal camera makes screening for covid-19 easy. And being able to easily wash it when I wash my hands means my phone is clean as well
Thank you sir, your video is very useful and I will buy a phone with a thermal camera, I was looking for this, to detect faults in electronic circuits. Very well done your video, it helped me a lot, thanks again!
I was on the fence about getting this phone, but this non-shill review tipped the balance. I'm on AT&T in the Dover Delaware USA so I think i'll be fine?
I did read a couple comments on reddit about maybe not getting VoLTE to work, which might be a problem in 2022 when AT&T kills its 3G, but at least it'll still be a thermal camera.
I think all of us that commented that we got the phone after this video should make a reply comment in a couple months with our own short review of how we like it and what carrier/region used.
Curious to see how the technical family thinks of it after a few months of time.
Reviews in the comments area would be welcome.
Thank you for that Big Clive was looking at buying one of these but reluctant to pay without an independent review from the kind of a guy that I would go for a pint with...purchase complete ..🍻
I've found this phone to be garbage, so many problems. And no support. How has yours been?
@@DJunclepaul2nd so far so good it's software is clunky in comparison to the Samsung I'm used ....it recently survived a 3m fall onto concrete paving which would have killed any other phone. I have read some negative reviews online regarding support luckily I have not required any to date.
Relax and Chill Out... as you speak about the heart rate! Thanks for the good laugh! Appreciate this non shill review you've stopped my delay of analyzing. Much obliged.
Thankyou so much for this review! Very informative and loving your accent 😉
The best tough phone ive ever had was a Kyocera Torque. It was AMAZING! it took a beating over the 3 years I had it and the screen is still like new.
However progress marches on. I'm in the UK and I couldn't get hold of their latest handsets for love nor money. And now they seem to have pulled out of the tough phone market altogether.
So here we are trying to find a new trusty brand for tough phones. I'm going to give this BV9900pro a chance.
Thankyou for your review, it helped me alot in making up my mind. Thanks!
My BV 9900 has been garbage for over a year. How is yours?
I'd like to see comparison for close view of circuit boards with thermal imaging. Only problem with using it as an add-on to a phone is the fact we buy a new phone every few years. It would be nice to think an imaging camera would last a little longer, not expiring when the phone dies.
I use the Blackview BV9500, had it about 2 years now. I love it, heavy as hell and a massive 3 to 4 day battery. Like the look of this one, but I need a headphone jack...
Hm, I was hoping to use the 9900 with a BT headset -- which has worked well in the past, on other kit.
Is there some other reason (selfie stick?) you need a headphone jack, please?
Also, Ebay etc. have cheap USB-C to 3.5mm jack socket adaptors.
Depth of field on a camera is related to the aperture. Having a wide depth of field usually just means it has a small aperture and poor light gathering ability.
This is where the focal length matters. You may end up having a phone with a longer focal length lense further away from your bench, and thus get a wider depth of field.
i am a mantenance electrician an had similar problems with fingerprint recognition , i now only use my middle finger (yes that one) for smart devices
Clive you can get a phone bungee, so if you accidentally drop your phone, it will spring back up without drop damage.
Great video, I loved it.
Great review! I've always wanted a IR-capable camera on my phone.
Verizon rhymes with 'horizon'.
I bet that heart rate sensor really is a pulse oximeter, perhaps nackered in firmware.
I have one of BLackview's non hardened phones. Considering it was £60 new I have absolutely no complaints.
I had one of the ruggedized blackveiwa previously, they're pretty good phones actually, they don't have the most processing power or the most ram but they're damn sturdy
Blackview is a great valued brand, have used them for years.
I've had the Cat S6 for a couple years now. Main flaws for me are that it gets ridiculously hot when plugged into a charger and using an app like Waze at the same time and the lack of wireless charging; the usb port cover on mine was torn of in a few months. That already puts the Blackview ahead of the the Cat for me.
Thanks for the review Clive. Might be looking into getting the BV when I retire my S6.
do you want to sell your cat s6 ? i can use one for repairing
20:39 - No, it wouldn't be a better description. If it's _hanging_ from the ceiling, it's a chandelier. If it's _standing_ on a table (or on a piano behind Liberace), it's a candelabra (well, technically a candelabrum, since candelabra is plural).
You do get ceiling candelabras. Like a chandelier without the crystals.
@@bigclivedotcom - That's still a chandelier.
"chandelier (n.): a decorative hanging light with branches for several light bulbs or candles."
No crystals required. If it's hanging, it's a chandelier.
The word does come from the same root as candelabrum, but we only hang them if they came via France. ;)
Have used IR cameras to show people the hazards of extension cords, doubled extension cords. I use one once or twice a year to identify air leaks and places that require more insulation in the home. Best money a person can spend for troubleshooting and ease of carry and use.
Love my bv9500 pro, 9000 mah battery, I can watch 16 hrs of big Clive while I wait in airports
I've been looking at the black view for my next phone, I love my refurbished GS8 active but I'd like a thermal imager on board. Thanks for the review
“Can you hear me now?”
“What?”
Varies-On
I've put my BV9900 through hell and back in the past year. Dropped from over 15 feet up straight onto concrete (no case) and this absolute unit of a phone was completely unphased. I use screen protectors just because I'm a clean screen freak. Its been dunked in lakes and just hasn't cared. I literally can't kill lol
How's it holding up in year two?
On risks of chargers: Lightning struck near my home. That zapped a buch of my electronics and smoked (litterally could smell) my cell phone charger sending what felt like 120vac down the usb cable zapping my fingers thus causing me to involuntarilly sending the phone flying across the room.
Now a little plastic (loved your cellphone condom comment) probably wouldn't protect from a direct lightning strike but would have protected my fingers from the 120vac.
Surprisingly the cell phone survived both the 120vac and the impact against the other side of the room.
Weird. I just started pricing thermal cams and up comes a review from my favorite weirdo.... What's the chance of that happening? Thanks!
Great review, subbed. Enjoy the useful technical details, ty
I have the BV9800 Pro which also has FLIR. While there are some things about the phone that leave me wanting it has overall a beast of a device.
I have a CAT S60 brought it cheap and broken. Was just a dead battery preventing it from turning on. Easy swap from China and like new working well :) love the phone and comes in externally handy! Essential for PC/phone repairs
do you want to sell your cat s60 ? i cacn use one for repairing
I bought the cat s60 because it was built tough. I ended up using the flir a lot. More then i thought i would. It lasted 4 years. Thats longer then any phone i have ever had. Dropped on cement a lot. Finally it quit charging. I want to get the s61 but they are still expensive.
This outperforms the CAT S61 at a significantly lower price. I get the feeling that their new CAT S62 would have been much more expensive if they didn't have competition.
@@bigclivedotcom awesome. I am currently using a galaxy s10+. I like it but it is fragile and i really miss the flir camera. I hope all manufacturers start soon so the option to have it is not so limited. I see the s62 in not available yet in the usa. Ill have to check the specs and price when it does get here and compare to that bv9900
I think the hardware navigation buttons (recents, home, back) are mechanical on the CAT S61 for a reason. I think it's more important to have a mechanical feedback from these buttons than from a charging port flap.
I considered both of those when I replaced my Kyocera Duraforce Pro 2, but ended up going with the Ulefone Armor 9 - it's like carrying a battle tank in my pocket. 😂🤣
It also has flir, comes with an endoscope, case, charger, etc.
Loving it so far.
How's it going with that phone now?
@@clintfen3213 still loving it. I can do underwater videos, and it's also dual SIM if I ever need it.
Highly Recommend 👍👍
What is your carrier? I am trying to get a tough phone for Verizon
@@adventureboysforever Verizon is the carrier I use, haven't had any issues whatsoever. 👍👍
Coming up on 1.5 years with the Ulefone Armor 9, and it's still going strong, still waterproof, and still pristine screen with no cracks, which is amazing because I'm extremely tough on phones. No overheating issues, no storage space issues (still haven't put an SD card in), and battery is still doing great, staying charged almost all day despite watching & listening to TH-cam all day (I'm a CDL driver).
Still HIGHLY recommend if you don't mind a big, heavy phone. 👍👍👍
I have a Cat S60. I have had it for 6 years and those phones have major issues. The "carbon fibre" backing was just a texture that peeled off... The headphone cover and charging port aluminium came off too.
pixels binning also reduces noise - if the 4 red pixels instead was 3 red but one ends up green because of noise, then the the binned pixel still end up red and the noise is removed..
After I saw your review of the CAT 61 I purchased a CAT 62 which dose not have the gas sensor or the cover for the C type usb but is still water proof. The Ulefone that I had previously had an underwater camera facility,something I only tried in the sink as I am not sure you could realy go scuba diving with a phone.
Thanks for the review, I just got a bl8800 PRO, very nice phone.
Good on you Clive for not going with the mainstream phones
I have its younger brother the BV9800 Pro some of the features on these phones are nuts.
That's why I only use chargers that I have tested for compliance before use.
Bonus points for hiding unlocking after unlolcking on screen a couple of minutes before.
Could you point the thermal camera at the other phone screen after you have touched that to see if you can track anything.
The phone thermal camera is really a great, with nice software features.
The use of the phone for office application and multimedia is rather limited.
Application like: Outlook 365, One Drive for business are not working at all (won’t synchronize).
Teams works OK.
Bluetooth is rather unreliable, where the headphones are not bale to synchronize, or synchronize occasionally.
Got the bv9500 it's good, will not work with Verizon and somewhat limited on frequently. Flir android usb c module works the same with the phone and also transferable to other android phones. Case is useless to me phone is very large already and won't fit in most holders used rubber paint instead
Which phone as you know, is more simple to open and to take out the FLIR Lepton camera? I need to use it with a Raspberry Pi to put on my drone. CAT or BlackView?
You can get the separate thermal imaging modules.
@@bigclivedotcom I know I can buy the modules, but if I buy one of these two phones, BV9900 Pro or CAT 62 Pro, as you know, is it possible to take it out easy? Because I don't know if it is better to take out from a FLIR ONE or from a phone
Modern TOF cameras showing up in new phones. The only thing needed for longer distance is a brighter light. (Bigger VCSEL array)
I picked up the BV9800pro. After a week I returned it for the 9900pro. It turns out they're not going to update the 9800 to Android 10 and I had come from a Note 10 with Android 10. Going back to 9 felt odd and I had a hard time adjusting.
BV9900pro is working great for me.
Very nice video. I just bought myself a Bosch Professional GTC 400C Thermal Camera which does an amazing job and is much cheaper than an equivalent FLIR. If I was able to purchase one of the Blackbiews here in Australia I think I'll be getting one as my next mobile.
I would love to have FLIR, it would make troubleshooting breaker panels much quicker, but more than my budget will allow, and Ebenezer sure won't pop for one, awesome videos Big C👍
Are you certain about the laser rangefinders using time of flight? AFAIK they all use a standard rangefinder that triangulates the distance using the distance between the transmitter and receiver.
Actually getting a measurement in inches, which my rangefinder does, would require a time resolution of a fraction of a nanosecond. (Remember Admiral Hopper's favorite prop?) You'd have to be in the 10-20 GHz range, and that's rather tricky to work with.
I see a range of TOF sensors for Arduino use. I'm not sure which technology would be best for compressing into smartphone size.
Time of flight is not hard to implement at all, that is if you can fabricate CMOS chips with tiny structures. All you need is a long delay line of gates (simple inverters), an equally long line of latches, and a precision adjustable one-shot delay. The latches all have the same propagation delay so they can take a "snapshot" of the line of inverters, each of which has a picosecond range propagation delay. By taking that "snapshot" with increasing delays from sending out the laser you can zero in on the delay setting necessary to put the reflection arrival within the snapshot. That delay is the rough part of the measurement and then the number of inverters away from the start of the delay line becomes the fine part. Lots of averaged samples can filter out most jitter and there you go. This technique can produce sub-picosecond resolution using traditional CMOS structures. My lab used to have time domain reflectometry (think of a rangefinder that tells you about about the transmission characteristics along the entire line of flight path) with a sample resolution of roughly 100 femtoseconds.... yes, you read that correctly. In 100 femtoseconds, light in a vacuum will traverse the width of 4 average red blood cells.
i like the idea of Catphones.. but i've had 2 the past 2 years.. S60 and s61.. and i had to repair them 4 times total (underwarranty).. and now that my s61 is out of warranty.. it died again.
Maybe ill try Blackview now but no MORE CAT, never had issues of my phones breaking before and i don't treat them badly.
If my Moto G4 doesn't come home in working order (it's faulty right now) I might look into one of these. Time for an upgrade!
I went from a moto g4 to the bv9900pro because of Sir Clive.
It is excellent, very heavy 🍞
Big Clive seal of approval eh! High praise indeed.
Keep an eye on the Ulefone Armor range of phones. Similarly ruggedised phones. I have the Armor 7 and it's excellent. Their new model has thermal imaging.
I tried to order an Armor 9, but Banggood cancelled my order. They said they couldn't ship it to my location.
I had the bv9900 pro but had issues after upgraded to android 10. Was able to return and now I have the Ulefone armour 9. In my opinion the Ulefone is a better device, the battery is bigger and give me 3 days between charges.. Good video though.
Great review. Have the 9800pro, with a 6350mAh batt, p70 and 6gb ram. Loving it ! Using the FLIR is amazing, wish there was a way to disable the optical overlay. Lasts for 2 days easy. Oh, what are your thoughts on battery charge percentage limits ? Read somewhere to charge to a max of 80%
Cheers for the vids !
It's generally considered that by charging to less than 100% a battery will last a much higher number of charge cycles. It would be nice if stopping the charge at 90% was a standard Android feature, but many manufacturers rely on the battery losing capacity progressively over time to sell new phones.
the barometer is usually just for help on location lock, the barometer app is just kind of for fun
I use the earlier CAT S60. I love the thermal camera and the fact that when I got the phone it was priced at the same level as FLIR's entry level standalone thermal cameras. The BV9900 Pro looks very interesting, the Qi charging is a missed opportunity in the CAT phones. Having to open a flap every time the phone needs a charge will eventually wear out the seal in the flap.
While the Qi is convenient, I must note that on my 9800pro it doesn't really stop like it should. Once charged the phone really heats up.
I want a phone with an x-ray camera.
Thank you Clive! I have been debating about a new phone, this helps!
Also have a look at the bv9800 pro. I have that one now. And so far its just is an great phone. And its more than fast enough. And the battery lasts for ages. And dropping it. Well it just doesnt care😂
9:56 I sure hope you changed your pattern unlock after showing us on camera.
I don’t know about you, but I wouldn’t try taking his phone and unlocking it. But even if someone did, RIP that person, for reasons I wish I didn’t imagine.
He took his phone off camera the next time he unlocked, but oh well what are we gonna do anyways ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
In another comment, Clive said he deliberately used an old unlock pattern.
I also bought a BV9900pro from Aliexpress on a good deal. Was lucky and didn't get stung with customs charges and also got 5% cashback by using Topcashback. Anyway, it is the best Android phone I've used so far. Comparing it to my last phone, a Samsung S7 edge, the only features that the Samsung has over the BV is that it has the blood oxygen sensor, the standard headphone jack (but you can get decent Bluetooth headphones cheaply these days) and I found that the Samsung's main camera took slightly better photos on the default point and shoot mode.
But the BV is noticeably quicker at running apps, doesn't come with all the samsung apps that you can't totally get rid of on a Samsung phone etc. The BV also feels more substantial than the Samsung and that battery life, so far, is far superior.
The FLIR cam is a useful addition to a mobile and its surprising how much you use it now that you have access to one in your pocket. I managed to "see" a wasps bike just under a neighbours roan pipe! And it will come in handy to better insulate the house by "seeing" the heat leaks from any windows and doors come the winter.
Would definitely recommend Blackview if this is their standards at phones. It's going to be interesting to see what the next evolution will be and what other features they will include. Wideband scanner radio built in? PMR446 built in? Wider COB led torch?