Glad someone said it, when she brought up the soldiers it was a wrap for me lmao she acting like soldiers had her picture in their helmets and looked at her in their final moments
She's delusional lol so many real talented people got left out . She acts like the video wouldn't be great without models. Hip hop was just as great without just added eye candy.
She's wording it wrong. Yeah they can acknowledge yall but to say you made the video better and made the rappers look a way is delusional. They left out real talent. Video models were replaceable. Just look pretty and dance.
Mel doesn't realize the same reason she's not getting recognition is coming from these same men she's been speaking to over these last pods.. They do not equate video vixens to art. Rather an object that embellished the art, and artists.
It’s not an art lmao in any way shape or form. Video vixens was simply a way for good looking women to monetize their looks. She was paid for a role in a 3 minute video. That’s enough
Mel went so far to prove her worth she stated, & I quote “ We kept fuckers hopes up in jails, across the country, across the oceans, WARS”.. Anyone know when Mel’s contract is up?
I think she’s also talking from a girls perspective I wouldn’t be surprised if girls back then probably did look up to those is like the girls they wanted to look like and stuff like that but from a guys perspective, that’s just not what we saw
Someone else worte cars and jewelry were in videos too. Mel didnt talk or dance. All she was, was a pretty face (a very BEAUTIFUL face). But her only talent was her beauty. They have super models for that
The video vixens played the same role cars and jewelry did. They were just used to form an aesthetic, being a prop doesnt mean you contributed to the culture
There’s actually a good comparison they were pretty much just props. Now if Melissa is talking about the girls who would actually dance or the girls that would play the love interest in the music video where they kind of like mouth the words and stuff I can get it but just the girl that’s just kind of standing around the rappers as he’s like wrapping in his Truck or something like that, ehhhhh idk about that one lmao
Only problem with that take is the jewelry, and cars is not as memorable as video models! Also those aesthetics you speak of didn't transfer to other things like video models! Like M Ford being on this podcast, or something as classic and iconic as Kesha of belly if she wasn't a video model first! I usually don't agree with "Mel thee misandrist" on these type of topics but she's right on this one
Mel has been mocked mercilessly on the past few episodes and I don't even think she notices. The fact that she takes herself so seriously is like a new 'bit'
I think she noticed for sure, but I thought the same thing the last few like 3,4,5 idek…but like the 2nd time she was rolling her eyes an maybe sucked her teeth a bit 😂 😢😅 I hope it doesn’t kill her overall Canadian glad to be here happy to be a live everyday type of vibe cuz it’s needed for the sole woman…ima dude an been watching since before Mal was a mainstay
It threw me off that Flip did it because the way he views the video model is the same way I view him and his little skits. I wouldn't even know who he is if he wasn't brought onto the pod by Joe. He needs to simmer down
Her argument is nuts, she literally said and I quote “ all I did was walk to a car” and still she thinks models deserve anything above and beyond what they were paid. Her army/soldier take is amongst the most ignorant shit I’ve ever heard in my life
@@Thisthat1234 thats not all she said lol she was right when saying it added to the artists masculinity and the "look" for women at the specified time.
@@Thisthat1234 You took that out of context she said all she did was walk to a car when society was saying that she was a bad role model for young women cut it out 😂
I think the only problem with Mel's argument is, the 50 anniversary they are talking about was only a celebration of music artist. Not the music industry. Video models, producers, engineers are a part of the music INDUSTRY as a whole, wnd the problem (failure) with the anniversary celebration was the fact it wasn't a celebration of the industry, but just key artists they deemed important.
This is what emanny was saying .. they WERENT held in the high regard she felt they were . She says it was her personal experience because of COURSE at the time she was getting the luxury of the lifestyle , feeling highly regarded . But Instagram girls get the same treatment
Video models were just used as a cost cutting tool. They actually lowered the quality of music videos. Before car rentals and video vixens,artists budget for a 3 minute video was gettiing outrageous. After the Micheal Jackson era,music videos started to become million dollar ventures. What used to be a 3 minute clip,turned into a 15 minute full length mini-movie complete with stunt men, special effects and scripts. Bringing in car rentals and video vixens allowed record companies, specifically music video producers to cheap oit on product costs and pocket the difference. Now instead of spending 1 million dollars just to morph L.L Cool J into a panther or to turn Snoop into a German Shepherd for 30 sec. We can rent this Bugatti for 100k hire 5 or 6 Melissa Fords and pocket the rest. Mel trying to take credit for elevating music videos when in reality her and all her friends were instruments used in destroying the quality of music videos by cutting the cost. The most famous person known for asking for 10 million to shoot a music video but only using about 2 million to do while pocketing the rest using video vixens,camera angles,car rentals and a few extra lights was Hype Williams😂 That boy had the scam😂
Most definitely Was Hype Williams and Eif Rivera that both figured it out quick and fo sho getting rich from lucrative deals with major distribution deals
Honestly the only way to thoroughly do a true 50th Anniversary Hip Hop. It would need to be a 5 episode series. Go through the decades and throughly represent.
Yeah, now more than ever people don’t understand that there are adults or 18 years old. I’ve never heard of Tupac lyric in their life and none of their classmates think that’s weird.
Literally women always want someone to validate them how about yall get together and do it yall selves all that museum talk she has the platform money and relationships to make it happen but instead she’s here begging for outside validation
Flip is always getting annoyed that they step on his opportunity to talk but he waits to get a rant off instead of just joining the conversation he’s wants the spotlight every time he talks
Just when I thought Mel couldn’t get any more unlikable….. wanting video models to be recognized for the 50 years of hip hop celebration?!!!! Cut it the frick out! I really liked her before she came on this show and I got to hear her personality and takes on things.
Joe is literally everything they didnt allow him to be when he was on dust😂. He be callin niggas broke and dusty cuz at one time he himself was broke and dusty. He hated the industry but has become an industry. Ppl said he couldn't dress now he be puttin it together lowkey. He is the epitome of live long enough to see yourself become the villain. Salute.
She doesn’t but she is speaking as a legend in her league. So her experience was different from many video vixens. A lot of them got treated like trash but her experience was different because she was put on a pedestal and was the lead girl in her videos so she was held on high regard. She wasn’t one of the extras
@@axa5005 I don’t remember those girls being looked at in high regard. I remember them getting sexualized and exploited because they were cheaper to get compared to real top flight models. All the guys she thinks that held her in high regards, were just being nice trying to fuck. 💯
I’m sorry I’m with flip. She want awards or just recognition for being a video model? And I feel like they’re only entertaining this because they tryna not get backlash for going against a women and acknowledging her feelings. . . . This world is becoming crazy man, everyone wants to be pacified for their stupidity and call it “feelings” A freaking museum??? Really
Mel isn't too far off with this one. I believe that video models changed the industry standard of what beauty is considered to be. They made music videos more entertaining to watch. Back then, we purchased magazines to get their posters on our bedroom walls. Every girl we knew wanted to be featured in the latest dope video just like them. So, they deserve a mention. Flip is foul for disrespecting them, especially coming from someone who puts on a whole circus show for likes! I respect what Mel does a million times more, and he's out of line for acting like she would be viewed as less than if she wanted people to acknowledge that she was once a video model, as if she couldn't have intellect and be a pretty at the same time. It just speaks to how limited his thinking is, in my opinion.
This argument that models, break dancers, photographers and engineers have been left out is absolutely nuts. They are all paid for there work. That’s all you deserve
there is a clear different between getting paid for the work you do and being recognized publicly for your contributions. especially when some of these creators are responsible for so many of the biggest names/songs/albums in hip hop. all those careers you named are under appreciated by the general public so if were tlaking celebrating 50 years of hip hop then hell yeah put those people on frontstreet and let people know the names and faces behind these huge moments.
@@TayLeones so you mean to tell me that because your work garners any public attention you are deserving of some sort of extra compensation? Also, by your logic every single contributing member of a movie deserves recognition?
@@Thisthat1234 I think you are missing the point my guy this was a convo about how those less recognized positions and roles in hip-hop arnt being recognized as much as others during the 50th anniversary of hip-hop lol. its all hiphop related. if the work of those producers ,dancers ,models, and photographers helped create alot of these big moments in HIPHOP then yes they deserve to be highlighted more during the time where hiphop in general is being celebrated. nobody was asking for them to be compensated in any other way other than gratitude on a similar scale to other roles in hiphop.
@@Thisthat1234 dawg there’s a long list of former “criminals” as you say that have done and continue to do great things for hip hop, completely independent of whatever they were up to in the streets. most of them have already done their time and are highlighted regularly for their contributions to hip hop. Now you just purposely missing the point lol
If you let Mel talk for long enough she’ll end up contradicting herself. Can’t say you changed the beauty standard and inspired all the kardashians and whoever’s of the world, and say that you couldn’t have negatively impacted young women because all you did was walk up to car sexy.
36:06 a Traveling exhibit from every large market of the hiphop genre. Chronology of videos and city tours of set locations,etc. “Texas Chopped Tour Stop” I would’ve loved to see all of them! “New York State of Mind” “Atliens”
Joe acting like he doesn't know what they are talking about. Just to get praised is ridiculous. He knows that he's into clothes and looks for the unique pieces.
Flip is Correct mel is a nut 😂😂😂 video models where not important in the grand scheme of hip hop lmao she thinks way to highly of video vixens. High regard and hope fighting wars is crazy and delusional
Joe, I traveled to NY from Alaska in 2016. I saw you at a Bill Burr show in Jersey. You were wearing a knitted dress with a hood. My thought, he knows something I don’t… Fashionista
The problem with this Danny Masterson conversation is that the letter was written after the verdict but before the sentencing. They were trying to lessen his time. That's what makes this nasty.
But still, they weren't writing a letter to justify reversing the verdict or lessening his sentence. They simply wrote a letter detailing what they know of his character based on their own individual experience. That doesn't make someone a rape apologist. It's the defense attorney and judicial system doing their due diligence, all Ashton and Mila did was cooperate with that process.....
"I'm good, Ice" and then Ice kept talking about BET Uncut. Trying to set a boundary and your boy keeps going is a sign of a true friendship there...lol
Don't NOBODY CARE ABOUT NO DAMN VIDEO MODELS......THE FACT THAT THE INDUSTRY IS NOT MENTIONING IT, SHOWS YOU THEY DONT CARE ABOUT THE VIDEO WOMAN......YALL WAS JUST PRETTY & SOMETHING TO WATCH IN THE VIDEO
@@MannyTwicethey were never important man smh they didn't write songs rap produce do wardrobe or nothing 😂 they were props like the car and the liquor gtfoh 🤣
Before I consume this video with my insatiable appetite for social media fodder. LoL I must give JBP verbal flowers for being the voice of today…Tomorrow isn’t promised so Great Job 👏 Keep up the good chemistry. Good, bad or indifferent as a friend of the show I love what you’re doing ❤
Video Vixens are cute maybe beautiful women that look good in music videos! Y’all don’t hold much weight overall. You find cute/beautiful women everywhere Mel. It is what it is! Shoutout to Flip!
Mel is buggin!!! Video models were/are used as props to reinforce a narrative - Like cars, houses, boats, planes, and money. That's not the same as the creative contribution that artists, directors, producers, professional dancers, visual artist.
That thing about video vixens was dumb asf . There like 4th on the list /engineers and videographers need awards / video vixen is a model in a video that’s it a paid model . Name 8 video models i Kant name 8 producers we could all probably name 6 . Video vixens get there cred last
They are right about Airbnb’s - one they can be a menace and dangerous for neighbors and the hotels give the city occupancy tax $$$ for every room night.. two birds one stone …
Dropping these Patreon episodes on TH-cam is a great marketing strategy. Old or not, the content is on another level compared to the free pods. We’re witnessing another podcasting clinic from the JBP 🔥
It’s about the mula baby. Getting paid off patreon for the exclusive then drop the same exclusive video for free on YT to get the YT check. It’s smart but I feel bad for tier in patreon who paid for this and now it’s out for free
I agree with Melyssa about celebrating 50 year's of hip-hop celebrating fashion/ photography, Video vixens etc.. to me these things matter because it inspires me and reminds me of good times. Just like when we go back and listen to what old school hip hop music it takes back to a time and place where things were different.
Flip came off the bench and started shooting the lights out 😂😂😂
The ego of a model is wild
Mel acting like video models were doing some world peace shit is wild. Chill 🤣🤣
Mel actn like vixens were social justice icons is HILARIOUS 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 Stop it
Glad someone said it, when she brought up the soldiers it was a wrap for me lmao she acting like soldiers had her picture in their helmets and looked at her in their final moments
Exactly… especially when they mentioned actual artists and contributors to rap music that didn’t get shine, and she still was on her rant😴
😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
she didn't, you just made that up
LoL they really let MFord compare video vixens to a the importance of a DJ clue tape in hip hop is outta control 😂
She's delusional lol so many real talented people got left out . She acts like the video wouldn't be great without models. Hip hop was just as great without just added eye candy.
20:30 😂😂😂 “We kept people’s hopes alive in prison” 😂😂😂 LMFAO!!!!
I am dead!!! 🤣🤣🤣 what the hell was she thinking
Flip had the right idea on the video model tip😂
But he didn’t need to raise his voice. He’s so damn immature! I don’t know who he thinks he is.
Mel - “we played a important part in the hiphop landscape”
Mel - “ All I did was walk up to a car”
🤔
LOLOL
I peeped that
You're ignorant if you didn't understand what she was saying there with those two statements. She was talking about two separate things.
Thats like saying the NFL/NBA should put cheerleaders n the Hall Of Fame 😂.
Mel u gotta chill
😂😂😂😂
She's wording it wrong. Yeah they can acknowledge yall but to say you made the video better and made the rappers look a way is delusional. They left out real talent. Video models were replaceable. Just look pretty and dance.
literally fr she shouldve stopped
They prolly will 😂🤦🏿♂️
My exact thoughts 😂💯
According to Mel, we should recognize the cars in the videos too...
"CAMERA ON ME" is hilarious - that needs to be on a t shirt
Mel doesn't realize the same reason she's not getting recognition is coming from these same men she's been speaking to over these last pods.. They do not equate video vixens to art. Rather an object that embellished the art, and artists.
It’s not an art lmao in any way shape or form. Video vixens was simply a way for good looking women to monetize their looks. She was paid for a role in a 3 minute video. That’s enough
They nasty for putting out 2 straight patreon episodes where mel mentions video models being held in the highest regard 😂😂
Mel went so far to prove her worth she stated, & I quote “ We kept fuckers hopes up in jails, across the country, across the oceans, WARS”.. Anyone know when Mel’s contract is up?
I think that’s the only crazy thing she said tbh.
seriously like Pac was doing a tour in Nam 😂😂 you were eye candy in a video, lets relax
Saying video models deserve the same recognition as the artists is blasphemous
Super
Flip popped Mel ass with the awards shit. 😅😂😅😂
Yeah I'm with Flip on the video girls discussion. The other dudes just pandering bc she's a woman.
Gotta have that friend who tells the truth 😅
I’m glad somebody being 💯
I think she’s also talking from a girls perspective I wouldn’t be surprised if girls back then probably did look up to those is like the girls they wanted to look like and stuff like that but from a guys perspective, that’s just not what we saw
Model’s always been around that don’t have shit to do with hip hop
Someone else worte cars and jewelry were in videos too. Mel didnt talk or dance. All she was, was a pretty face (a very BEAUTIFUL face). But her only talent was her beauty. They have super models for that
Mel standing up for video models is hilarious 😂
She’s delusional
SHES DELUSIONAL 😢
Video vixens walked so the IG girlies like Ari could run
Quesion: As a man, when you watched Nelly's Tip Drill video on BET's UNCUT. We're you watching to see Nelly or all the ass twerking???
Mel said that was some great times!! Then next pod she will say it was some dark times and it’s triggering for her but she wants a museum!!!
The video vixens played the same role cars and jewelry did. They were just used to form an aesthetic, being a prop doesnt mean you contributed to the culture
There’s actually a good comparison they were pretty much just props. Now if Melissa is talking about the girls who would actually dance or the girls that would play the love interest in the music video where they kind of like mouth the words and stuff I can get it but just the girl that’s just kind of standing around the rappers as he’s like wrapping in his Truck or something like that, ehhhhh idk about that one lmao
Facts Hip Hop is culture and the culture consists of 4/5 elements. Video models isn’t one of them. She buggin lol
Only problem with that take is the jewelry, and cars is not as memorable as video models! Also those aesthetics you speak of didn't transfer to other things like video models! Like M Ford being on this podcast, or something as classic and iconic as Kesha of belly if she wasn't a video model first! I usually don't agree with "Mel thee misandrist" on these type of topics but she's right on this one
You didn't watch a music video for jewelry or cars, but you most definitely watched because of the video girls
@@rayray1052they’re in denial 😂
Mel has been mocked mercilessly on the past few episodes and I don't even think she notices. The fact that she takes herself so seriously is like a new 'bit'
I think she noticed for sure, but I thought the same thing the last few like 3,4,5 idek…but like the 2nd time she was rolling her eyes an maybe sucked her teeth a bit 😂 😢😅 I hope it doesn’t kill her overall Canadian glad to be here happy to be a live everyday type of vibe cuz it’s needed for the sole woman…ima dude an been watching since before Mal was a mainstay
Past few? Lol
Its been really bad the past month, on the main pod and patreon
@@channeldirty7 🤣🤣🤣
It threw me off that Flip did it because the way he views the video model is the same way I view him and his little skits. I wouldn't even know who he is if he wasn't brought onto the pod by Joe. He needs to simmer down
Unfortunately flip is right no one cares about the video models like that
Her argument is nuts, she literally said and I quote “ all I did was walk to a car” and still she thinks models deserve anything above and beyond what they were paid. Her army/soldier take is amongst the most ignorant shit I’ve ever heard in my life
The guest and Hip Hop don't care about that but the people who know the culture does
@@Thisthat1234 thats not all she said lol she was right when saying it added to the artists masculinity and the "look" for women at the specified time.
@@Thisthat1234 You took that out of context she said all she did was walk to a car when society was saying that she was a bad role model for young women cut it out 😂
Right i bust and closed the magazine
Flip tucked his spine and backpeddled faster than a Diddy settlement.
I think the only problem with Mel's argument is, the 50 anniversary they are talking about was only a celebration of music artist. Not the music industry. Video models, producers, engineers are a part of the music INDUSTRY as a whole, wnd the problem (failure) with the anniversary celebration was the fact it wasn't a celebration of the industry, but just key artists they deemed important.
Mel think video models deserve Nobel piece prizes😂
This is what emanny was saying .. they WERENT held in the high regard she felt they were . She says it was her personal experience because of COURSE at the time she was getting the luxury of the lifestyle , feeling highly regarded . But Instagram girls get the same treatment
Crazy thing is joe cares about fashion the most and dresses the worst
On purpose
@@carlostejada145 nah he thinks the shit is actually fly cuz it's expensive
Mel…. If you want the positive recognition, u can’t dismiss the negatives that DID stem from video models.
Video models were just used as a cost cutting tool. They actually lowered the quality of music videos. Before car rentals and video vixens,artists budget for a 3 minute video was gettiing outrageous.
After the Micheal Jackson era,music videos started to become million dollar ventures. What used to be a 3 minute clip,turned into a 15 minute full length mini-movie complete with stunt men, special effects and scripts.
Bringing in car rentals and video vixens allowed record companies, specifically music video producers to cheap oit on product costs and pocket the difference.
Now instead of spending 1 million dollars just to morph L.L Cool J into a panther or to turn Snoop into a German Shepherd for 30 sec. We can rent this Bugatti for 100k hire 5 or 6 Melissa Fords and pocket the rest.
Mel trying to take credit for elevating music videos when in reality her and all her friends were instruments used in destroying the quality of music videos by cutting the cost.
The most famous person known for asking for 10 million to shoot a music video but only using about 2 million to do while pocketing the rest using video vixens,camera angles,car rentals and a few extra lights was Hype Williams😂
That boy had the scam😂
Most definitely Was Hype Williams and Eif Rivera that both figured it out quick and fo sho getting rich from lucrative deals with major distribution deals
Game -couldn't get far
But what’s it matter really if the artists let it happen too? Her point is still valid; they become a staple.
@@saintchizz8002 in most cases the artist was in on it FYM ...
@@saintchizz8002Lool artists had little choice
Honestly the only way to thoroughly do a true 50th Anniversary Hip Hop. It would need to be a 5 episode series. Go through the decades and throughly represent.
Right
Yeah, now more than ever people don’t understand that there are adults or 18 years old. I’ve never heard of Tupac lyric in their life and none of their classmates think that’s weird.
@@justadude1477 Exactly. And just think about the early adopters of hip hop.. they’re all but forgotten in this generation.
Idk y no one did it, that shit would be a layup. Even if you just do a docu-series with that premise
They used to feed black babies to alligators in Florida during slavery time.
Stop trying to soften the situation.
Melissa don’t wait for recognition. Be THEE recognition. She could of put together a event to celebrate the models etc…with sponsors and such.
I agree
Literally women always want someone to validate them how about yall get together and do it yall selves all that museum talk she has the platform money and relationships to make it happen but instead she’s here begging for outside validation
I agree
She runs from and then tries to distance from her model past and simultaneously wants acknowledgement
@@Mac_Raymond Exactly!! It's just weird!!
Mel wanting hip hop to acknowledge videos hoes is crazy.
Flip is always getting annoyed that they step on his opportunity to talk but he waits to get a rant off instead of just joining the conversation he’s wants the spotlight every time he talks
Just when I thought Mel couldn’t get any more unlikable….. wanting video models to be recognized for the 50 years of hip hop celebration?!!!! Cut it the frick out!
I really liked her before she came on this show and I got to hear her personality and takes on things.
When Joe get in his “I’m an empath” bag 😂
flip calling mel out was top funny, she victimised that whole topic though
Joe denying being a “fashionisto” is like ish denying being famous
He’s not tho he just knows a lot of people 😂
Actually the only ppl who would be considered famous is M. Ford and Joe
Joe is literally everything they didnt allow him to be when he was on dust😂. He be callin niggas broke and dusty cuz at one time he himself was broke and dusty. He hated the industry but has become an industry. Ppl said he couldn't dress now he be puttin it together lowkey. He is the epitome of live long enough to see yourself become the villain. Salute.
He ain't no fashionista 😂 he be wearing expensive bullshit*t 🤣
@@cr5ccand flip
How Ice gonna agree that his shorts cost $20 then turn right around and say, “these are not $20….” 😂
Mel literally yelling first at 22:07 and said “I’m yelling back” is fucking CRAZY
Thank You. She Is Always Playing The Damn Victim On Ish!!!
@@jaakjc9223 then when ish starts hesitating before he speaks, knowing how you can’t say shit to Mel, he’s wrong 😂
Mel don’t know body care about y’all being cute on video! Stop it!
She is the definition of Delusional
Your grammar is awful
That lightning in the background looked amazing at 16:31
Mel definitely has a glamorized view of what her and the other video models contributed.
She doesn’t but she is speaking as a legend in her league. So her experience was different from many video vixens. A lot of them got treated like trash but her experience was different because she was put on a pedestal and was the lead girl in her videos so she was held on high regard. She wasn’t one of the extras
@@axa5005 You're just a delusional as she is lmao
Definitely not.
@@axa5005 I don’t remember those girls being looked at in high regard. I remember them getting sexualized and exploited because they were cheaper to get compared to real top flight models. All the guys she thinks that held her in high regards, were just being nice trying to fuck. 💯
I’ve mentioned this show and her name multiple times recently (like discussing their topics with ppl) and not one knows her name.
I’m sorry I’m with flip. She want awards or just recognition for being a video model?
And I feel like they’re only entertaining this because they tryna not get backlash for going against a women and acknowledging her feelings. . . . This world is becoming crazy man, everyone wants to be pacified for their stupidity and call it “feelings”
A freaking museum??? Really
Me too. I agree, she didn’t have to do anything but look good. We didn’t like Big Pimpin because of the vixens. We liked it because of Hov lol
Facts every word 💯💯
Mel isn't too far off with this one. I believe that video models changed the industry standard of what beauty is considered to be. They made music videos more entertaining to watch. Back then, we purchased magazines to get their posters on our bedroom walls. Every girl we knew wanted to be featured in the latest dope video just like them. So, they deserve a mention. Flip is foul for disrespecting them, especially coming from someone who puts on a whole circus show for likes! I respect what Mel does a million times more, and he's out of line for acting like she would be viewed as less than if she wanted people to acknowledge that she was once a video model, as if she couldn't have intellect and be a pretty at the same time. It just speaks to how limited his thinking is, in my opinion.
Melissa embarrasses me when she uses the f wordt. It seems so forced and is not who she really is or something. I want it stopped!
This episode is old but since then she has consistently used the “N” word and it sounds so forced! She sounds silly.
😂😂😂😂 Stop It. It's Exactly Who She Is.
Joe had to make sure we knew that flip flops was designer 😂😂
Lmfao video vixens?! What’s next OF awards?!😂
Joe singing that classic uncut joint “white girl come into my world “ is hilarious 😂😂😂😂😂
lmao throwbackkk "Don't tell minister Farrakhan...He don't wanna know what's going on" lmao
Im tired of Mel. They need a different woman voice on the show
The golden age of hip hop has nothing to do with video models. 🤷🏽♀️
Arguing about Video Vixens is a bit wild…
Yall wild for calling Joe a fashionisto. Knowing brands doesn’t equate to actual style 🤣
Mel is great but not because she was a video model. She can own her own personal greatness and not root her identity in being a video model.
Just because you're not familiar w/ her industry doesn't mean they don't deserve recognition. They also contributed to the culture.
Video model Grammys sounds crazy there in a 2 min video
Bruuhhh they way flip face impressions when he tryd to get a word inn lol 😂😂😂
Gotta love these guys!
Thank you❤
This argument that models, break dancers, photographers and engineers have been left out is absolutely nuts. They are all paid for there work. That’s all you deserve
there is a clear different between getting paid for the work you do and being recognized publicly for your contributions. especially when some of these creators are responsible for so many of the biggest names/songs/albums in hip hop. all those careers you named are under appreciated by the general public so if were tlaking celebrating 50 years of hip hop then hell yeah put those people on frontstreet and let people know the names and faces behind these huge moments.
@@TayLeones so you mean to tell me that because your work garners any public attention you are deserving of some sort of extra compensation? Also, by your logic every single contributing member of a movie deserves recognition?
@@Thisthat1234 I think you are missing the point my guy this was a convo about how those less recognized positions and roles in hip-hop arnt being recognized as much as others during the 50th anniversary of hip-hop lol. its all hiphop related. if the work of those producers ,dancers ,models, and photographers helped create alot of these big moments in HIPHOP then yes they deserve to be highlighted more during the time where hiphop in general is being celebrated. nobody was asking for them to be compensated in any other way other than gratitude on a similar scale to other roles in hiphop.
@@TayLeonesso by your logic, the criminals should also be recognized ? As they played a pivotal roll in the culture, lyrics etc etc
@@Thisthat1234 dawg there’s a long list of former “criminals” as you say that have done and continue to do great things for hip hop, completely independent of whatever they were up to in the streets. most of them have already done their time and are highlighted regularly for their contributions to hip hop. Now you just purposely missing the point lol
M. Ford really believes video vixens were important to hip hop 😂
Anybody notice how their building is rotating? Look at the scenery in the back
I love Queenzflip. How he turn up on Mel like that lmao
22:12 - 22:30 i don't think Mel can tell she is actually the one yelling 😅
She literally starts it at 22:07
She did start yelling, but because he kept interrupting her and talking over her.
@@latielfields5629 keyword: he was "talking" when she started yelling, that's the point
If you let Mel talk for long enough she’ll end up contradicting herself.
Can’t say you changed the beauty standard and inspired all the kardashians and whoever’s of the world, and say that you couldn’t have negatively impacted young women because all you did was walk up to car sexy.
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DROP AFTER DROP! YALL TRULY THE GREATEST 💯
thank you flip.... the panderbears let her get that bs off..
That shit was sick smh
Come a long way from "I'll Name This Podcast Later" 😎🚀
Damn Joe, JBP in the Christmas spirit ✊🏿
he sayin get that boy outta here not cowboy hater 😭😭😭😭
& Mel vs Flip 21:50😂😂😂😂🔥🔥🔥🔊🔊
36:06 a Traveling exhibit from every large market of the hiphop genre. Chronology of videos and city tours of set locations,etc. “Texas Chopped Tour Stop” I would’ve loved to see all of them! “New York State of Mind” “Atliens”
Joe acting like he doesn't know what they are talking about. Just to get praised is ridiculous. He knows that he's into clothes and looks for the unique pieces.
Lmao yeah he was milking that segment to the ground
Exactly lmao mastermind like always
YYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEESSSSSSS I WAS JUST FINISHING THE LAST 1 AND GOT BLESSED 🔥🔥🔥
Mel … y’all shook y’all ass for 4 minute videos. A tribute to that would look crazyy
22:15 yo flip is crazy 😂
Flip is Correct mel is a nut 😂😂😂 video models where not important in the grand scheme of hip hop lmao she thinks way to highly of video vixens. High regard and hope fighting wars is crazy and delusional
I feel what Mel's saying. She should work on that for 2024. Don't wait on anyone. Call up your connects and get it started
No wonder why she didn't
When Melissa Ford talks. I start to itch like i have on a fuzzy Christmas sweater ,bareskin without a undershirt
Joe, I traveled to NY from Alaska in 2016.
I saw you at a Bill Burr show in Jersey.
You were wearing a knitted dress with a hood.
My thought, he knows something I don’t…
Fashionista
And it was knitted
let's go Joe. You have perfect timing
The problem with this Danny Masterson conversation is that the letter was written after the verdict but before the sentencing. They were trying to lessen his time. That's what makes this nasty.
But still, they weren't writing a letter to justify reversing the verdict or lessening his sentence. They simply wrote a letter detailing what they know of his character based on their own individual experience. That doesn't make someone a rape apologist. It's the defense attorney and judicial system doing their due diligence, all Ashton and Mila did was cooperate with that process.....
ok WAYMENT!!!! I was just over there!!!!!!!! I'ma linger around next time 🤣🤣
"I'm good, Ice" and then Ice kept talking about BET Uncut. Trying to set a boundary and your boy keeps going is a sign of a true friendship there...lol
Don't NOBODY CARE ABOUT NO DAMN VIDEO MODELS......THE FACT THAT THE INDUSTRY IS NOT MENTIONING IT, SHOWS YOU THEY DONT CARE ABOUT THE VIDEO WOMAN......YALL WAS JUST PRETTY & SOMETHING TO WATCH IN THE VIDEO
Yeah you weren't around when they were important I can tell
@@MannyTwicethey were never important man smh they didn't write songs rap produce do wardrobe or nothing 😂 they were props like the car and the liquor gtfoh 🤣
@@MannyTwiceBorn in 77, but I guess your right....lol
@MannyTwice if they was so important, why Noone mentions them? Especially from the same industry they was in.... I'll wait
Video models 😒😤?? Shes reaching !!
Joe wilding wilding with them thong sandals with spikes between the toes 😂😂😂😂
Joe: Slow down, my memory is bad 🤣🤣
Before I consume this video with my insatiable appetite for social media fodder. LoL I must give JBP verbal flowers for being the voice of today…Tomorrow isn’t promised so Great Job 👏 Keep up the good chemistry. Good, bad or indifferent as a friend of the show I love what you’re doing ❤
Bro wipe ya knees
Melyssa Ford you're a Legend and we love you queen.
Joe rivers/ joe river road got me crying 😂
Video Vixens are cute maybe beautiful women that look good in music videos! Y’all don’t hold much weight overall. You find cute/beautiful women everywhere Mel. It is what it is! Shoutout to Flip!
She said it herself all she did was walk up to a car so why should she or anyone else be celebrated
ice invite the fans to his frank stand one more time imma catch ‘em in Newark
Ironic plot twist; you catch him at a frank stand
@@2Muchpjp 😂😂😂😂😂 name Franco. ahahahah but he be wylin 👎🏽
Look at me looking up Cafeteria in New York. I've never had tomato soup, I'm definitely going when I go back to NYC.😂
Nobody peeped when Ish was talking about interracial dating at 59:32 how the steam was blowing out of Mel’s nose on the mic 😂😂😂
Mel is buggin!!! Video models were/are used as props to reinforce a narrative - Like cars, houses, boats, planes, and money. That's not the same as the creative contribution that artists, directors, producers, professional dancers, visual artist.
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That thing about video vixens was dumb asf . There like 4th on the list /engineers and videographers need awards / video vixen is a model in a video that’s it a paid model .
Name 8 video models i Kant name 8 producers we could all probably name 6 . Video vixens get there cred last
Mel is delusional and entitled. If you listen closely its all about her recognition but she groups it so she dont come off arrogant and self centered
Flip be blowing the pod sometimes
They are right about Airbnb’s - one they can be a menace and dangerous for neighbors and the hotels give the city occupancy tax $$$ for every room night.. two birds one stone …
Dropping these Patreon episodes on TH-cam is a great marketing strategy. Old or not, the content is on another level compared to the free pods. We’re witnessing another podcasting clinic from the JBP 🔥
Oh you doing tricks on it
@@zachfort2060that’s hate 🙄
It’s about the mula baby. Getting paid off patreon for the exclusive then drop the same exclusive video for free on YT to get the YT check. It’s smart but I feel bad for tier in patreon who paid for this and now it’s out for free
@@zachfort2060lol 😂
@@regularpaul8142 no need to feel bad, they got it in real time.
I served in iraq and not once did a video Vixen came across my mind. Facts
I'm from Connecticut and they took me back with the NYC clubs/lounges/diners
I agree with Melyssa about celebrating 50 year's of hip-hop celebrating fashion/ photography, Video vixens etc.. to me these things matter because it inspires me and reminds me of good times. Just like when we go back and listen to what old school hip hop music it takes back to a time and place where things were different.