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  • @ManojkantSamal
    @ManojkantSamal 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    a=4, b=2
    As per question
    a+2ab+b=22
    Multiply 2 on both the sides3
    2a+4ab+2b=44
    Add 1 on both the sides3
    2a+4ab+2b+1=44+1=45
    2a(1+2b)+1(1+2b)=45
    (1+2b)(2a+1)=9×5 or 15×3
    Let's take 9×5
    So,
    (1+2b)(2a+1)=9×5
    So,
    1+2b=9 and2 2a+1=5
    2b=9-1 and 2a=5_1
    2b=8 and 2a =4
    b=4 and a=2( also vice versa)

  • @VictorPensioner
    @VictorPensioner 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Find a from source equation
    (1) a = (22 - b) / (1 + 2b) (a > 0, b > 0) => b = 1
    or
    (22 - b) / (1 + 2b) >= 1 (0 < b = 1 + 2b
    or
    21 >= 3b
    or
    b

    • @prbprb2
      @prbprb2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You only need to check b=1,2,3 . At that point b>a

  • @roberthayter157
    @roberthayter157 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Excellent, as usual. What I learn is that I need to learn to be more creative. 😊

  • @prime423
    @prime423 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The key is the solutions are integers. Simply solve for a in terms of b.No fancy manipulation necessary. Always look for simple solutions first. In addition,thats applicable to all linear Diophantine equations.

    • @jamesharmon4994
      @jamesharmon4994 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      With Diophantine problems, I start by plugging in 1, 2, and 3 for one of the variables. With this problem, a solution was found when I plugged in 2. That this is the only solution is proven by plugging in 3, which results in 3 + 7b = 22. Here, b must be less than 3.
      (Keeping in mind that either a or b could be 2)

  • @jeanlemire2681
    @jeanlemire2681 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you are to try all the possibilities of numbers that give 45 when multiplied together, why not simply set a value for a the solve for b. For example, let a=1, the equation becomes 1 + 2b + b = 22 or 3b = 21 so b = 21/3 or b = 7. Let set a = 2, the equation becomes 2 + 4b + b = 22 or 5b = 20 or b = 20/5 or b = 4. With a = 3, b is not integer. With a = 4, the equation becomes 4 + 8b + b = 22 or 9b = 18 or b = 2. With a = 5 or 6, b is not an integer and with a = 7, b is calculated as 1.

  • @YoungUkJo-s9l
    @YoungUkJo-s9l หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That solution is so hard to think. It is wise that just put randomly some numbers seemed proper

  • @madurappankalyanaraman8015
    @madurappankalyanaraman8015 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Two answers are possible
    If a is 2 then b is 4
    If a is 4 then b is 2
    Accordingly
    2+2.2.4+4
    2+16+4 = 22.
    4+2.4.2+2
    4+16+2=22

  • @giuliofalco9816
    @giuliofalco9816 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I solved in this way: a + 2ab + b = 22 -> b(2a +1) = 22 - a -> b = (22 - a) / (2a +1). b must be integer so I can compute rhis table
    a | 2a +1 | 22 -a
    --------------------------------
    1 3 21 x (22-a divide 2a +1) b=7
    2 5 20 x b= 4
    3 7 19
    4 9 18 x the same solutions switched
    5 11 17
    6 13 16
    7 15 15 x
    8 17 14
    9 19 13
    10 21 12

    • @harrymatabal8448
      @harrymatabal8448 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good work from you and Mr Giulio. Thanks

  • @bookert2373
    @bookert2373 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    a+b = 22-2ab, so a+b is divisible by 2. Therefore, both are even or both odd. a+b positive, so 2ab < 22 and ab < 11. There are very few positive pairs of (a,b) to test that are both odd or both even that and satisfy ab

    • @NickDos-r7f
      @NickDos-r7f 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Continuing your reasoning. Let a≡a' and b≡b' (mod 4), where 0

  • @LinhTran-om6qh
    @LinhTran-om6qh 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    How did you come up with tricks like multiplying both sides with 2 and then adding 1 to both sides? I mean, it seemed so random what you did and yet effective. Is there any signal of when to use such tricks and which tricks to use?

    • @neon1300
      @neon1300 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same question here.

    • @immersivalgames2696
      @immersivalgames2696 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      What I think he did is that he factored a+2ab and got a(1+2b) or a(2b+1) and since there is still one b left over he matched the factor by multiplying both sides by 2 to get the 2b and added 1 to finally match the factor so he can get 2a(2b+1) + 1(2b+1) = 45
      And simplified it to (2b+1)(2a+1)=45.
      This can also be done to 2ab + b but for the video it was done as a + 2ab.

    • @Cagouille79
      @Cagouille79 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      a(1+2b)+b=22
      a=(22-b)/(1+2b)
      For each value of b you have a value for a except if 1+2b=0 (if b=-1/2)
      So, number of solutions = Infinite.
      Isn't it ?

    • @SubhroMandal-r8k
      @SubhroMandal-r8k 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Bro! Only positive integers are asked.

    • @TheFrewah
      @TheFrewah 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You could do a(1+2b) +b =22. And now you see you want the single b to be 2b+1 so you multiply by 2 and add 1 and then you can factorise.

  • @gogo201158
    @gogo201158 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is too complicated,it is because a and b are positive integer,just try a equal to 1 to 6, then you can find all answers

  • @tombufford136
    @tombufford136 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    At a quick glance if a = 4 and b = 2 then 4+16 + 2 = 22. This gives two solutions: a = 4 and b = 2. a = 2 and b = 4.

  • @PATRIK67KALLBACK
    @PATRIK67KALLBACK หลายเดือนก่อน

    What was missing in the beginning of the video was the restrain, two positive integers.

  • @Walter_Carnielli
    @Walter_Carnielli 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You didn't say at the beginning that you're looking for integer solutions. This simplifies everything!

    • @sheepy3958
      @sheepy3958 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can see it at the very beginning. Just watch closely 😊

    • @Akenfelds1
      @Akenfelds1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He did say it at the beginning, both in words and in writing.

    • @Apollorion
      @Apollorion 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He wrote & spoke of positive integers at the beginning. Don't you think this implies integers?

  • @EduardoDuvane-mc7dm
    @EduardoDuvane-mc7dm 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's big a deal👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
    I have a math olympiad question, can I send it?

    • @maryjay7833
      @maryjay7833 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Please send it here, we will either help or learn something😊

  • @yogamulyadi2046
    @yogamulyadi2046 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    (2a+1)(2b+1)=45
    (a;b)={(1;7),(7;1),(2;4),(4;2)}

  • @nikolayguzman331
    @nikolayguzman331 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    There are more answers: a=22 b=0 and simetrical a=0 b=22 The solve idea is very nice and creative.

    • @johnlv12
      @johnlv12 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      a and b must be positive

  • @giannaleoci2328
    @giannaleoci2328 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Eccellente soluzione!

  • @DebdasBandyopadhyay-yq5jg
    @DebdasBandyopadhyay-yq5jg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Is it called integer Solution?

  • @keithwillenson8314
    @keithwillenson8314 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2a + 1 >= 3 is not true if a (or b) = 0, you missed the 1, 45 pair and 45, 1 pair or (0, 22) and (22, 0) as long as your solution is only non-negative integers

  • @jameslouder
    @jameslouder 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Surely I'm very thick-headed, but how can 2a(2b+1) + (2b+1) be simplified to (2b+1)(2a+1) ?

    • @wolfbirk8295
      @wolfbirk8295 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because A * B +A = A*(B +1)...
      ?

  • @littlejin-n8x
    @littlejin-n8x 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    a = 1 and b = 7 ?

    • @Mofiac
      @Mofiac 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And 22, 0. His answers don't work in the original equation .

    • @quantumbuddha777
      @quantumbuddha777 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Mofiaczero is not a positive integer

  • @Mofiac
    @Mofiac 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    (1,7), (7,1), (0, 22), (22,0) are the only solutions. Your answers don't work with the original equation.

    • @maryjay7833
      @maryjay7833 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sorry my friend , but you are wrong, a and b must be positive. He solved it nicely

  • @richardslater677
    @richardslater677 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You have used totally unexplained steps such as multiplying by two and adding one to both sides. These steps seem picked out of the air with no logical reasoning. You do this a lot on your channel and I’ve commented as such in precious videos. It would be very useful for me if you could explain the reasons why you choose each step please.

  • @Aryansamthaan
    @Aryansamthaan หลายเดือนก่อน

    How to make math difficult

  • @olegg9726
    @olegg9726 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    a=2 and b=4...Just be common sense!

  • @harrymatabal8448
    @harrymatabal8448 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Was your fourth step necessary. Wasting our time