MORE "Unjustified" Threats. This time against me 🤷♂️
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‘Count Dankula’ has claimed that his lawyer was threatened during his defence over the ‘saluting dog’ case.
Maybe you could review that sometime?
@@Jump-n-smashsame here!
You're talking to the wall. People are manipulating left, right and centre. I think as you do but people will not stop their games. It's infuriating and tiresome when your stuck with a manipulator that thinks they have a right to lie and abuse. Even worse when they are armed with weapons. Northumbria police arrested a woman for being drunk and disorderly only she wasn't drunk. She was actually a diabetic and their ignorance caused her to fall into a coma. I suspect my husband is because he has all the symptoms my late brother had but he won't get checked. He has been a nasty piece of work. It all falls on deaf ears.
Sometime ago a company van barged in-between me and my partner when we were out on our motorbikes. As we always ride with cameras recording, it was all caught on camera.
We contacted the company by e mail and sent a copy of the footage explaing what happend . The main man called me and apologised and will take it up with the driver and get back to me. He actually called me back and said the drivers story was completely differnt to our own, then he sat him down and showed him the footage . Ka boom.
He thank me for bring it to his attention and asked if his company can use the clip during their companys training for driver's. Thats how things shold be done and concluded. 🇬🇧
Whereas I made a complaint about a school bus driver that was aggressively gesticulating to 2 students on a zebra crossing outside a school, while they were deciding whether to walk in front of such a bus driver, and they did nothing.
The school didn't do anything either.
(B&J Travel Ltd & Skipton Academy)
@@benholroyd5221 Lawyer from the colonies here. What is a zebra crossing?
@@stickoutofthemud a crossing where pedestrians have priority. No traffic lights.
It's black and white, thus the name.
@@benholroyd5221 He lost his job and now I have to feed his children.
I have a problem like this, in that I know for sure that carrying any item for self defense will never be used in anger, but the only way to prove this is to video my entire life's journey to the endpoint for the legal proof I am correct.
Isn't it good that we have video that can follow you around and knowing that when you're dead you can carry a gun all day long.
Maybe it can be used in training videos for children and law 'makers'.
As if you start a legal battle with a bloody Barrister.
of course you can , nobody knows everything or is above being sued etc
Generally why not?
They are still human and have the same foibles and weaknesses as other people.
One of my customers was defrauded out of roughly £4 million a few years ago by 2 lawyers.
Have a mooch through the Bar Standards Board disciplinary reports online and you'll find some shocking behaviour.
People have to learn from their mistakes!
But also, as previous commenter said, nobody is above the law. It's a real pity that most recipients of similar letters like this lose time and energy and MH defending themselves against ridiculous threats. I'm glad that Daniel is publicising this because it might give those people confidence and strength to defend against a bully
It will be a keyboard Warrior " you watch. 🏴
100% you can but that doesnt mean its smart unless its a water tight case and even then is still a risk.
If the company whose van it was had just said they were disappointed in their driver's conduct and it didn't reflect their high standards when representing them in a sign written vehicle ... then there would be a whole lot of money & time saved, and we'd all have a bit of respect for them compared to what we now think about them. They, themselves have tarnished their own image - far worse than the incident did - and then hired similarly arrogant legal council. Just like the Post Office and other "institutions"
Van?????
@@KrisD007 yes, it was a sign written box van that cut close to the cyclist.
Or if they had just said nothing at all about it, no one would’ve cared and the minor (but still dangerous) traffic offence would have been all but forgotten in the annals of TH-cam history.
My husband and I bought a house and had a bad experience…wrote a bad review. The CEO called my husband at 10:30 ON A FRIDAY NIGHT cussing us out…we put more reviews up about this CEO’s behavior…he threatened us with defamation until we deleted all our comments…too bad for his lawyer we had proof of the phone call and our basis for the initial bad review.
4:18 @@sandystormable
I guess this is what happens when you get your law team from Wish. Ludicrous behaviour. Looking forward to following this one.
Yep it's a low level hired gun solicitor prepared to write something after being paid and agitated to by their pushy client.
lmfao
Lol or Temu
Speaking the truth is heavily suppressed everywhere . I guess
That's the part of " free speech ". 😂 People pushing for their
Agendas full force and if you say something against their
Narrative you're not welcomed on social media or elsewhere .
shop like a billionaire............
I’m a longstanding lawyer myself and can’t believe a solicitor actually sent a letter like this, what an own goal!
These new lot of lawyers don’t really know the law. Also a lot of law is starting to indoctrinate the law as well
back of the net.....
I kind of wonder if it was a ChatGPT "Lawyer" that wrote this 🤣 "Write a threatening letter to a lawyer"
It's been my experience that lawyers will seemingly do anything if you pay them enough.
@@kenjepson1908 Not this lawyer.
It’s a laughable threat, written by the office junior!
OR ai... maybe
@@Simon-ho6ly yes could be as the language used is unusual, at least for an English person or lawyer.
Or a family or friend who is a lawyer, who is about to get their asses handed to them 😂
A solicitor sending a threatening letter of litigation to a barrister. Oh the irony
My husband and I bought a house and had a bad experience…wrote a bad review. The CEO called my husband at 10:30 ON A FRIDAY NIGHT cussing us out…we put more reviews up about this CEO’s behavior…he threatened us with defamation until we deleted all our comments…too bad for his lawyer we had proof of the phone call and our basis for the initial bad review.
I’m soooo sick of lawyers bullying good people with the law 😡
well done
Good one. I think one thing Daniel has said is to record conversations and keep detailed records. 👍
Well done, we should all tape all phone calls.
I'm being dim possibly BUT
*WHAT CEO of WHAT* ?
The Law firm which handle conveyancing? Mortgage Provider? Estate Agent? Removel Co even?
Well done! It's useful to record all phone calls in instances like this.
When will people learn... You can't threated a Black Belt Barrister! Because they kick ass inside and outside the court room...
Daniel is a rogue who plays by his own rules!
@@IamPandaSteve are you the lawyer by chance.
@@IamPandaSteve No no, Daniel is a Ronin who plays by THE rules, and knows them all too well.
@@mrendo4742 no, not even a little bit!
it's nice to see that the octopus advert is and isn't still present.
The law is only for those that can afford it.
In this case?
There are genuinely decent lawyers who care about what is right and just, and are less interested in money. That doesn't apply to lawyers who practice in the commercial sector (e.g corporate law). Oh yes and tax lawyers, because the tax system now exists to serve itself, rather than exclusively to collect tax.
Same as mechanics, vets and, er, housing, food and heating... your point?
@Blitterbug it's an irrelevant but important cliché to throw in and attract cliché loving upvoters 😁
@@peterrauth118BALLSHIT Lawers are the lowest form of life.
I was taught as a child the people you don't upset are family, lawyers, police, and whoever is cooking your food.
It's worked well for me.
😂😂😂
Me too 😅 👍
My dear nan always told me 'complaints to the cook can be hazardous for health' 😅
I'm a retired military chef and the phrase is never sh1t on the hand that feeds you
And the barber. 😅
In simple terms, they picked on the wrong person!
Good grief! Some people really like making trouble for themselves 😐 thank you for sharing these threats and making it public, how stressful
yes , how stressful 🤦
Worth sitting in court to hear this one
Sue them for the unjustified threats.
Unjustified? They were never justified in the first place.
🤔OR... just ignore them, not waste your time on them?!? ... 😝
Accidental inclusion ref the company name on a van breaking the law. The company should own it and apologise for their drivers illegal driving and explain how they retrained the driver or penalised him and it would have gone away. This is like the latest piano and Chinese incident which in their attempt for privacy have become a world sensation 😂🎉😂
Yes, communists don't like getting owned. 😂😂😂😂😂
Simply don't have the advertising on the van if you don't want to take responsibility for negative activities equally alongside the free advertising.
Funny you should mention that, I was going to mention that one to BBB and ask his opinion! It was outrageous, that guys is so pleasant and loves playing that piano, so wrong!
Yep - the Streisand effect ;-)
🤔hmmm... back in the 60s, the people organising these "piano-protest-events",
would have just called it a "happening"!! ... Any advertising is GOOD advertising! 🤗😋
“NEVER GIVE IN TO ATTEMPTED BLACKMAILERS”! People must take responsibility for their acts as well as the acts of their employees! The constant threats from those totally in the wrong is ridiculous and must be stopped!
TV Licencing???
@@RobinPhillips1957 I live in the USA where we do not have TV licenses.
We do have monthly satellite or cable services that run about $250.00 a month and what we call PAY PER VIEW events(where you pay for every event you watch such as a boxing match or a concert some run $400.00 or more for each event), but only if you are interested.
We also have antenna TV television that has local programming, some network programs, some news programs, many old programs from the 1950’s thru the 2000’s that are free. We can also watch shows on computers on TH-cam etc.
I do not understand having to pay to even turn on your TV.
That’s what the SRA are for.
Not much chance of that, we've all seen how the government ran the post office.
Now I understand why “Black Belt” Barrister .. 🥋 😁
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They are serious Streisanding themselves
There’s a lot of that going round at the moment. Don’t touch her!
Yes, I'm wondering what they _thought_ would happen sending a letter like that. Very, very odd behaviour.
I like how the effect is now an adjective!
😂😂😂
@@hairyaireyIt's a verb in this context.
Threatening to sue Triple B?
Bang out of order!
😂😂😂👏👏👏👊
Agbn
bbbbnag indeed
As a Barrister (probably an excellent one) you can deal with this. For us plebs, false accusations can be a worrying or traumatic experience. My experience of the average Solicitor is that they are disinterested or inept.
100%. Soooo many inept useless rip off ones 🤦♂️🤦♂️
Quite funny that this company is so worried about their reputation that they just double down on their letters including to now send a letter to a lawyer. I do hope you are able to keep us all updated with more information or results :)
That lawyer should work in B&Q. Selling spades....
too challenging for them as they would argue against calling a spade ...a spade !!
Well tbf, s/he probably does!
Forkhandles
Four candles
Russia would buy all spades available
Apparently they just add washing machine chips and hey presto most advanced weapons 😎
I have been involved with lawyers for the whole of my 40+years of my career and one thing that I have learnt is that they are not an elite and should not be feared in any way. What one lawyer says will inevitably be countered by another lawyer so that the legal opinion expressed is not definitive, it is after all an opinion.
If you ask two lawyers for advice you will get 5+ opinions.
Lawyers give opinion judges give the answer then the lawyers give the bill
@@geoff97595 opinions and a huge bill.
That’s why you need a good lawyer😂
@@geoff9759and a huge bill.
It would be wonderful if TV Licencing was covered by the same rules!!! Some of their letters border on MAFIA behaviour!!!
Would be a brave man, or a complete fool, to threaten to sue you. "Come and have a go, if you think you're rich enough"!
Oh they are so screwed if this goes further. Seriously, did no-one think of the public fallout that would occur with an attempt with something like this? Quite frankly, A simple apology, and a disciplinary word to the driver (however hollow that is) would have acheived far more than swinging around their self grandiose, and acting like a playground bully.
They've done WAY more damage to their public image now than the initial video, and whoever decided to try and threaten legal action should have their crayons taken away from them, and never be allowed to make decisions for their company without supervision for a very very long time.
You've helped so many people understand law 👏
From the USA & I enjoy learning about UK law!😊
Yeah me too. This channel is so interesting and informative. 💯👏👏👏👏🌹
The SLAPP is interesting. Taking Brendan Kavanagh's video and his subsequent follow ups, it seems that the tourists are making repeated requests to TH-cam claiming a privacy violation. Even about videos where he appears on various News Programs. This seems like harassment. Now, while this has yet to wander into the legal arena , it does bring up the question of digital threatening behaviour and harassment and what to do about it. Its certainly adjacent to your experience here.
When I read the title I (wrongly) assumed this might be linked to BBB's comments on the Dr K video and his (Dr K's) updates on the number of takedown requests he's received, which also seem to be spurious and vexatious in my non-legal opinion. Am sure BBB can handle this (Copyright arguement) and would be keen to know if he also has received anything related to Dr K? Time will tell. Am posting this as a reply and will also post as a comment.
Piers Morgan has had a copyright strike, for sharing Brendans live stream during their interview.
@@WiseAngelUKreally?! Brendan gave permission for everyone to download and re-upload! I wonder if there is some weird TH-cam terms where they hold the copyright and not the creator?? (Guessing)
It's just the communists crying
Bar Standards..... you said that so fast it sounded like something else!!!! 😂
Barstardards
If you set up a tip jar for your service of suing them to get an injunction (and damages if any) I'll definitely tip a fiver.
And me
Absolutely right to challenge them Daniel, not all lawyers have your sense of fair play and common sense. You bring the difficulties of law and explain it so the layman amongst us can understand and I for one am grateful for your time and effort in what you do for us all on your channel.
Take them on and educate them.
Good luck, not that I think you need it.
Thank you for all your videos and efforts. Much appreciated
Will we soon be seeing quill pens at dawn?
A great video. A typical example of solicitors behaviours. Throw out a threatening letter to try and get the other part to back down.
Personally I think their rules should be broadened to prevent them threatening when they know they are in the wrong as in this case. Bullies shouldn't be tolerated in any walk of life.
I don't understand how another in your profession would think you are anything but fair, genuine and not acting within the law? You are YT's voice of reason
They cant just take it on the chin,can they.Still trying to push us.
Lawyers are bound by very strict rules, tell that to the Post Office’s lawyers and barristers. The SRA et al
Good to see you are a man of your conviction. Well done.
The content of the letter is probably more aimed at the client, in an attempt to justify the fee for writing it.
At least bad lawyers only cost money and hassle. Bad pilots and bad doctors have got a heck of a body count 😊
Boeing
Bad bullying lawyers can cause people horrendous health problems from undue stress and have been known to even cause the victim’s suicides.
Money could be anything between 1p and all your assets. Hassle could be anything between a second of your time and your overall health or other aspect of your life.
Doctors bury their mistakes.
@@Hrodn Some do, but most often nowadays the mistakes are too noticeable and too many witnesses refuse to cover up incompetence.
How arrogant of this letter writer! I appreciate this response. I am relieved to know that there are individuals with integrity and grateful to know that there are resources for the rest of us. Thank you.
I know a junior barrister who was punished by a top law firm because she refused to represent and upset a VIP client when advised he 100% had no case. The client understood he had no case but had the cash and wanted to cause pain. She valued her qualifications and oath.
Unusual since its well know that barristers work for money and don't care about whether the client is innocent or guilty. She's probably in the wrong job.
@@bikeman123 Do You think top barristers chase criminal cases? Tax and civil litigation pay better. Plenty of work for honest lawyers fixing tax office mistakes and contracts. You tell a barrister you did it all you can do is hope for a better sentence. Ask Trump lawyers what happens if you lie for your client.
If the firm had just said we think the driver was wrong .... and nothing more then this would have blown over ...
...Streisand Effect : means more people have head of the firm as the one who supports bad drivers, and threatens people with legal consequences ... than have ever dealt with them now
I filed a claim against a medical supplier. They agreed to payoff. I said be sure that payment is here before court time. Day of court came. - no check. I went to court they didn't . I of course got summary judgement. Their lawyer called me later that day and threatened to have me disbarred. Sorry, you can't disbar a civilian. I guess my paperwork was to clean.. LOL
I am only at 5:08 and something else has already caught my attention about the Letter and it is something you mentioned with regards the JD Vs AH Trial, More concerning as this is the United Kingdom and obviously far smaller than the United States...
Most Solicitors and Barrister's in the UK know one another VERY WELL, There are a very small Number of Legal Professionals compared to the Populace, so they are more than likely going to have attended meeting together on frequent occasions - Potentially even when facing one another on opposing sides of a Legal Case! It is part of the importance of the Standards that no Legal Professional should ever "Harass, Abuse or Threaten another in the sector" to paraphrase the document you are reading from...
Which, Is leading me to a concern that this is NOT written by a Barrister / Solicitor at all! And that in itself would also be an Offence...
And if the content of the letter is regarding teh conduct of TH-cam Viewers - That is something that NO TH-camR has any real control over! Youi can request and insist people do not make disparaging remarks, But you cannot control them! They are individuals!
Take for instance my disdain for TikTok LGBTQ+ Activist Jefferey Marsh, Many TH-camrs and such I have followed who have covered this person always say "Dont harass, bully or otherwise" - And I don't... But I can quite freely state here that I think that man is a Perverted, slimy, Vile piece of shit... It is MY OPINION... Protected by law - to an extent of course... I f I were to constantly post those words, and repeat such words on all his videos, That would 100% be an offence... But to voice an opinion is NOT UNLAWFUL!
I did see teh comments on that video, and most were very polite... Just restating that they felt the Van Driver was in the wrong! A Viewpoint you echoed in your opinion within your video! I did not see any disparaging remarks about the company except a couple of people saying that them trying to get teh video taken down for Trademark Infringement was damaging to the business and how they would now make sure they never used them!
That though is more of a Streisand Effect... Had the Company not sought so hard to protect their brand from One Bad Driver, No one would have a bad opinion of them directly! They are now punishing people for a problem they created!
Hell, I only know the company Name - And even now I dont remember it... I just recall it being visible in that video... I did not need to know it so did not remember it - Because they issued the original Trademark "Takedown" - When I watched that Video I was judging the Drivers Actions, That was my focus... It was THE COMPANY who drew attention to the BRAND!
In effect, They DEFAMED THEMSELVES!
They probably use chat, GPTAI to write the letter. I’ve used it before when I had to do Medicare appeals for my mother.
Well said (and I agree with your comments about JM too)
@@gypsygem9395 I have been watching this channel too long now... LOL! He really does help demystify law.
And my comments about JM... Yeah, just an opinion and I woudl never go out of my way to harass or attack Him / Them - I do try and be respectful of pronouns, Who knows, Maybe if I met them - My opinion may change - There is a difference between teh "Social Media Persona" and teh Real Person in many cases... And they are probably a very nice person to talk to and may even listen if spoken to face to face...
... But the Online Personality they display, I HATE IT!
I guess I am that cautious with my words though not because of BBB but because I am aware of my own "Mask" I wear... Suffering Depression and Anxiety, If I do get my script written and upload my TH-cam Video, What people see will not be "The Real Me" but the Personality for the camera. I am aware that JM plays the game... They know how to garner attention and they LOVE IT!
It does have to be the next level of stupid to send vague and potentially vexatious and empty threats of lawsuits to a barrister 😆🤦♂
A barrister posting daily on You Tube......!
Surely if the lawyer believed that you acted outside your rules of conduct he would complain to your board on the first instance rather than threaten it to you personally
If I'd done a bit of welding, but wasn't an actual welder, I wouldn't be an expert in that field. Same applies to, say, accountancy. I might have done a few sums but that, again doesn't make me me an expert. So why do those who are not qualified within a legal profession think that they know better than someone who is?
' cause they talk to their mates down the pub.
It looks like Cornices Center Ltd can't get enough publicity. Firstly their driver makes them the stars of the show with atrocious driving, which quite distinctly looks like driving without due care, and then they've seemingly threatened everyone with legal action who discusses the issue online, seemingly with equally questionable legal antics.
Wow. I wonder if it was the boss driving?
Most competent companies would have apologised for their drivers actions, but then again, not all companies are competent .......
It's too easy to bring a suit against someone. So many are based on nothing but hurt feelings.
A threat is just a threat, meant to scare people. Best way to deal with a threat is to stand up to it.
Like fear? If you do not comply...
@@oldblack15 They depend on fear. Like any bully, once comfronted, they piss their pants.
Good Evening Blackbelt Barrister. You are a decent Gentleman. This is a form of bullying. Who ever threatened you has played with the wrong man. This is upsetting and disgraceful. Thank you for all your helpful videos. Stay positive.
I was expecting the Chinese, not the white van company.
I love the way they've exposed their own lack of legal knowledge and you methodically discect ther arguments with impassive cander. They are not in your league and never will be 😂
Is anyone going to sue Michelle Gail for trolling the royal family and worse still the royal children on behalf of the Harkles?
I'm sure the Royal family don't take any notice of ALL the rubbish or even think about it...They are Too busy getting on with buisness and what's important..Plus they have the best protection and Lawyers money can buy..
Hi Daniel, I do recall that video and remember most of the details what has now developed seems to me to be quite typical behaviour that is often demonstrated by people who are challenged by anybody, because they have no real rational foundation for their original assumptions when those assumptions are challenged the only way they can respond is with threats and abuse.
In is very sad that so many people think that they can treat their cognitive delusions as immune to such challenge but it is a deeply embedded part of modern culture little of which has real legal or rational foundation.
As far as I can see this response of yours is entirely justified and I do look forward to a satisfactory resolution I would also expect some significant compensation for the anxiety and stress they are causing you even if in fact you are not badly disturbed, this would qualify as punitive damages similar to what has just been awarded in the current Donald Trump defamation case but perhaps not quite so much!.
Cheers, Richard.
You definitely bring the Law down to Earth a bit and make it more accessible and understandable. You also choose topics that a lot of people will have experience of (like the TV Licence, driving etc) which helps us stay on the right side of the law. Thankyou!
I wonder how much more of a twist will in their kickers after this video!
Grabs popcorn and ensures bell notifications are still on. 🧐
Is your Saturday really that quiet? 😂
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I saw a lawyer's response to a threat of litigation recently in the US. The response to the takedown demand was "LOL, no."
Making threats against a lawyer is without doubt the most stupid thing you can do. Apart from anything else, they can represent themselves- so they don’t pay legal costs. And they can ensure that those threatening them rack up huge costs.
TradeMark Infringement ROFL!!!
Something similar happened to me. I asked a question on social media about people's experience of a company's products. Within three days I got a threatening lawyers letter. Caused me massive grief. A few years later some of the people running the company were prosecuted for fraud and others struck off as company directors. The solicitor who wrote to me was investigated by the SRA and struck off. He was a senior partner in a major commercial law firm. In spite of his experience he felt able to send lots of these letters to prevent potential victims of the fraud finding each other.
Very poor behaviour by a fellow professional and you are fully justified in reporting this matter.
If the owner of the company acts responsibly and professionally in business then I question why an errant driver
would cause them any affront ,offence or outrage apart from that which they may direct at the driver. We now live in
age of audio/visual recording in public by every man, woman and their dog. Ego management must be a virtue.
You have made me understand so much keep doing the good work
It seems very foolish to me to be threatening a Barrister who is well versed in the law. Is there not an offence of vexatious litigation?
When I watched the original video that this is fallout from I remember thinking "There's a firm of solicitors who are going to end up having a difficult conversation with the SRA". I didn't expect my prediction to be fulfilled quite so soon or so publicly.
BBB, Incredible ! Good afternoon from the U.S.A.
BBB is seeing this entirely in terms of civil law and professional conduct. But I am not convinced that there isn't a criminal offence being risked, if not yet committed.
Using threats to impose a loss is just as much blackmail as using threats to exact money. I think BBB might consult a criminal lawyer at some point.
lawyers vs lawyers no comment on that one
Responsible companies often have a sign on the back of the vehicle asking, "How am I driving?"
Now we're talking!
It easy to say don't panic regarding anything to do with law, but the reality is that a lot of people simply can't afford good independent legal advice, which is the first thing you would recommend. And the law firms know this, and know as a result that a lot of people really have no option but to just roll over because they can't afford to find out if a claim has merit, and certainly can't afford risking an expensive case against them.
It's easy to have that opinion from a place of privilege, but the reality for poor people is very different. So in the event I get a legal threat I will still panic, because I can't afford the alternative! It's frustrating when you know they probably just trying it on, but you can't afford to risk finding out.
Isn’t that what is termed as a vexatious claim..?
Yes indeed, good question. The context behind this statement isn’t yet complete, however I see little more here than a pompous irate question. Someone who feels aggrieved and is venting their frustration. Many folk may choose to simply disregard such a question, but there may be more context behind this question that we don’t know about yet. I feel that I don’t know enough yet to form an opinion whether this is a storm in a teacup, or even an ‘incitement to SLAPP!’ I’m taking care not to pick sides, and I look forward to hearing more.
It’s not a claim
I hope you take them to court. You are a godsend and your videos are very educational and enlightening. Keep up the good work
I agree with the assessment provided. One point of clarification. The Bar Standards Board is the regulator of the Bar but the Bar Council operates an ethics service. For advice, a member of the Bar should contact the Bar Council, not the BSB. The BSB does not operate an advice line for Barristers. If you seek ethics advice from the BSB, there is a protocol in place that means that you will be advised to call the Bar Council. So, the letter was correct in so much as the Bar Council is the right place to seek advice. I agree that asking that question was inappropriate.
I'm a 70yr old Brit only mildly educated by the State School System 1959-69+ Tech College, But I have a basic, understanding of the Ancient standing, of English law, Barristers are the mouthpiece as it weir, a calm head, representing an injured/body/ego/soul, Or is the Laws of England now conducted as if the Houses of Parliament is the World, Corrupt if you Stamp your foot in front of Nanny enough
You were probably born to be a barrister, even under attack you're calm, reasoned and completely profressional, and I honestly think this video was motivated by genuinely wanting to help people in your situation. Respect 🤗
Thank you so much for this video. I'm a photographer and poet who most of their art is on the topic of mental health. I've gotten many veiled threats from my workplace about posting inappropriate content when I only talk about my feelings, struggles and inform others about mental health, and shared experiences. Something I find personally abhorrent that is happening to me. At the moment nothing's been written.
I know you won't see this but I'd be interested in hearing your take.
I started my mental health advocacy for being dissatisfied with feeling so alone, unheard and no one being in the same boat with my depression, because of a 'good vibes only' society on social media. So I post the positive and negative aspects, information on autism, depression, loneliness, and mental health struggle so another who may see it may feel a little less alone.
I've met a few people who I've helped with the open honesty of my work and who they themselves are doing similar.
But the veiled threats are getting me down and anxious.
Do you have an idea of why someone might be targeting you over your art?
I'm not 100% sure but I think you're saying that your employer isn't happy with the art you've created, is that right?
Can it be linked back to them or does it mention their company? Is it will known that you work for them, perhaps?
Sorry for all the questions, I'm not a lawyer but have a little legal knowledge - I guess that'd depend on the country you are working in too 😁
Only share if you're comfortable. If not, you might want to think about publishing future work under a pseudonym & via a VPN if it's going to become too troublesome to continue as-is. You'd have to leave the work you've done to-date, perhaps explore a different style or medium until there's enough for you to gradually return to your original style.
Again I'm being _very_ cautious here because I don't know your situation.
Hi@@Blue_Sonnet I would appreciate any insight you may have. To answer your questions, the main things my manager says 'to be careful with' is me mentioning I'm going through a difficult time, or may mention 'work' in the abstract. My accounts definitely can't be linked back to them, even less so now. I've blocked every work colleague on them, it isn't well known if I work with them and my account is minuscule.
The only time if I have an arch nemesis who wants to ruin me who may be willing to do as much digging as physically possible to link me which even I don't think they'd be able without cross referencing different unconnected social media accounts, stalking each of them for a while only to then take a gamble and see if it pays off.
May have to use a pseudonym, but perhaps it's me, but I personally think this should be illegal. Almost like if my workplace tried to coerce me to vote a particular way in a general election, but even in this case it's impossible for them to verify even if they had tried. I mean, I had someone try to silence my art before, we're now friends, we've made up and they apologised, I was just saying my struggles, difficulties, my feelings, my lived experience. No particular mentions. I'm not gonna lie, spent 30 mins now looking at my workplace instagram account and blocking every name I recognise. Will have to do the same for my second account later today. It's definitely stressing me out, even my therapist has said "you know yourself very well and creating art and sharing it is key to your own mental and physical wellbeing".
Sorry for the late reply, hard to find this particular reply on my mobile. Had to use my laptop.
@@beautyinnormalcy It's fine, I'm on my phone now so apologies for any autocorrect errors 😊
If you're worried then definitely use a pseudonym - it's something that artists do often and the anonymity that comes with it can be really freeing solve you don't need to worry about any fallout or complications.
With your work, I guess it would depend on how strong the worker protection laws are in your country/area. If you can, I'd recommend joining a union (I joined one during a work dispute and they couldn't help with anything that started before my membership, so it's best to get there early).
It might also help to move departments or employers to have a fresh start - it's hard to tell whether they're is any ill intent or if they're just legitimately worried about you and just worded it poorly.
You might feel more reassured if there's a clear line between your work and your art - in an ideal world you should be able to say and do what you like as long as it doesn't bring your employer into disrepute, but life isn't like that.
If you want to stay with your employer, then a pseudonym and using a VPN when posting/uploading, making sure photos are in a different area to where to work and/or in difficult to identify locations will mean they won't have any way to link it back to their business. If there's someone you can trust in the HR department, you can maybe ask for advice on where they would draw the line on out-of-work activities that could impact their business.
I'm not working with the full picture here (it's not really possible to over the internet!) but it sounds like you'd benefit from having your art be a safe space to express yourself, separate to your everyday life - if so then starting afresh with a pseudonym, VPN and making sure your art isn't traceable to a single location would do you a lot of good. I'd also go over this with your therapist, since an outside point of view from someone who knows what you're going through will really help.
Freedom !!!! For everybody
Maybe the company that employs the driver should look at the risk of its drivers going through red lights rather than threatening legal action for pointing out that its drivers go through red lights and put other road users at risk. There are so many vehicles with cameras these days, you would think that someone in a sign-written van would have more sense.
Quite amusing that a solicitor threatens a barrister with a code of conduct report and then gets one right back.
They messed around and now they will find out... lol
Bullies don’t learn, even when they get qualified. Keep up the good work.
Excellent advice as always. Thankyou. Isn't it disappointing that ignorant law breakers cannot accept liability and guilt as in the case of the van driver and company and then a law firm is prepared to threaten litigation? I am interested to see where this one goes.
My experience is that many people feel threatened by a letter from a solicitor and some members of the legal community are only too willing to take advantage of this.
An example...Somebody local to me (a tenant) cut their side of a boundary hedge that belonged to a wealthy neighbour (the roots of the hedge were on the neighbour's land, thus making it their hedge) which they are allowed to do BUT they have to offer the cuttings back to the neighbour (you don't have to deliver them, just offer them for collection).
The upshot was a letter from a solicitor threatening legal action if they did this again - the landlord was so worried they forbad the next tenant cut the hedge, even though it obstructed the driveway.
Had this been me I would have adopted one of the following courses of action...
1) A short 'up yours' response to the solicitor.
2) A 'You know I can do this, how about we see how much money you can screw out of the
old bat so we can go for a good meal?🤣🤣
Some people haaave clearly never heard of the 'Streisand Effect'............
You'll make a pretty penny selling popcorn for this one!!🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🤣🤣🤣
You can tell this guy is a lawyer , takes 300 words to explain something that can be said in 6 words 💯👍
The saying "when in a hole, stop digging" comes to mind. 🤦
Being respectful to your wishes I will not quote the company name many of us saw on the van. The first threat of legal action was counter-productive and this one has dug a deeper hole. Every day someone is caught on camera for bad driving, a singularly forgettable thing. That is what should have happened, they maybe get a fine and a few points on their licence and we all carry on. Drawing attention to themselves by initiating these complaints is generating negative publicity, of course I can only speculate why they apparently have a solicitor on "speed dial".
You are always educational. Thankyou.
😂😂😂 imagine trying to bully a barrister & ending up for a formal grievance against your firm through your regulatory body. What a spectacular own goal 😂😂😂
Don't always agree but. You always give me a balanced view, long may it continue bro,
Don’t agree with his UK law understanding?
They must be not that smart going up against you Daniel. And that's as nice as I can put it 😆👍
@Mark-yk1ny ...Fair point. I'm merely observer, but my money's on the host, not simply the clue is potentially in the moniker Black Belt Barrister. Observationally, that's at-least two risks it would be prudent to avoid.
Good! I’m glad you are reporting it. Nothing this group has done from day one is legal, ethical, or logical. Leng’s hubris is absolutely pathological.
don't abuse your position , treat people fairly and with respect. Best advice for us all 🎉
There's a LOT of pisspoor solicitors out there at the moment
Yeah watch out people
Like the ones who buy unrecoverable council tax debts and then use threats to try to bully apparent debtors into paying them to the solicitors.
A friend showed me one his wife had received, I immediately asked him if the debt was more than 6 years previous, which it was.
It's about time 'Art of Law' got more subscribers. He has a good channel over there.
Shining the light, INTERNALLY, on veiled threats by colleagues (Solicitors or Barristers) is the correct way of dealing with this abhorent, unethical and unprofessional behaviour. This is even more egregious (A word the author of your letter also used) when it is a threat not directly from them but on behalf of a client, even more concerning if the client does not know of this.
We need ANti-SLAPP legislation here in Australia as well. As well as tort reform on a fair amount of concerning matters (defo espec) - though I digress.
Keep up the good work, it can only make society and the profession better. (Sidenote: if a barrister doesn't use caveats are they really a barrister? ;) )
I wonder if this is an example of a pattern of behaviour from this solicitor. I doubt very much that it is a one-off.