Guide: CD-Based Systems on Retro Handhelds (ArkOS, 351ELEC, EmuELEC)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 มิ.ย. 2024
- Today we're going to discuss systems like PlayStation 1, Dreamcast, Sega CD, and TurboGrafx-CD (PC Engine CD). Let's organize your files and learn how to switch discs in multi-disc games, too.
Full written guide: retrogamecorps.com/2021/04/22...
Retro handheld Buyer's Guide: retrogamecorps.com/shop/
Timestamps:
00:00 introduction
01:22 common file types
03:14 loading ROMs onto your device
04:42 swapping discs
07:00 organizing the system menu
09:28 ArkOS instructions
11:05 conclusion
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What did we do to deserve this? Why are you being so nice to us?
This is literally perfect timing because i just finished the first disk of ff9 and i need to know how to switch to the next disk.
You just load the next disc and load your save right? I thought it was super easy now.
Post vid edit: Huh, I see. I thought we didnt need to do it this way anymore.
@@Nick_Lamb When names of file with savestates and memory cards are tied to the name of a disk image, you'll have to rename those files if you don't use playlists. So, it's better to use m3u for all multi-disk games.
@@Sergey_Latyshev
Thank you, im gonna have to try it. Ive been just loading all my discs and its pretty ugly.
LOL, Ahpay Escahpay, I see what you did there. Thanks for the guide!
Actually that's how you would read it in normal languages.
@@LockeLeon wtf is a "normal" language? The two most widely spoken languages in the world are English and Mandarin Chinese and neither would pronounce ape escape in that way.
I wonder why he did that
@@RobbyWheelerGuitar A normal language is the one that has consistent phonemic representations
@@RobbyWheelerGuitar You must have fun at parties
Subfolders are definitely the best way for multi disc games. Just add a period to the start of the subfolder name and that hides it in the menu. Only the m3u in the main folder shows in the menu, as a single entry. Then edit the m3u files to include the new subfolder in the path, and be cautious to use the proper forward/backward slash depending on target operating system. Even then, that's easy, and this way you don't need to hide all the other single disc game's cue files.
I'm still waiting for mine to arrive! Thank you for putting out these guides, I'll be turning back to you once I get this awesome lil device!
Massively appreciate all these tutorials, they are so incredibly helpful - thank you!
Hey man! thanks for the video. I really like your stuff: I just received a few days back my RG351V, and have used your guides to install 351elec, scrape videos and box art with my computer using Skraper. and now have multi-cd PS1 games working really nicely on my device. And all thanks to you!
Every time I need an answer to a question, you have the perfect video for it. You're a champion, sir. A towering example to others.
thanks for the very helpful videos! I spent half my day setting this up nice and clean with the help of your videos. I installed the new battery as well that you mentioned and It does last a bit longer as well. This device is really cool and I like all the customization it has. thanks again!
From France, thank you so much I'm in trouble since one week with my PS1 roms and you fixed all my problems with one video. Thanks again !
This channel helped me with so many things around emulation/modding/ consoles... Its almost dusgusting how often im looking for answers here :D Great job man
Fantastic Ross, you did it! Thanks for making this handy clean up guide.
Multi-disc games used to always bug me in SimpleMenu and EmuELEC. This really is just a great solution. Thanks for sharing!!
Another fantastic video! This also works for swapping out multiple floppy disk games like on the Commodore 64! Perfect!
Oh, you beautiful person! My smokey RG315V just arrived this week, so this is great timing! :D
Your vids are such a gift! Thank you
Thank you for the ArkOS explanation at the end. Worked a charm and my OCD can rest easy with those cleaaannnn game lists! :)
This video is EXACTLY what I needed. Perfectly timed video too lol. Thanks guy!
Personally, I find it easier to just manually hide the excess cue files for multidisk games via the select menu on the device itself. There is a toggle called "hidden" in the metadata section in that menu. It's a lot faster if you have like 50 psx games (only a handful are multidisk) and don't want to make m3u files for each single disk game. Then you just keep cue and m3u files enabled in the menu.
Thanks for this video!!! A RG351V battery mod video would be so much appreciated!!
Russ's editing style switches everytime i breath but its always high quality
Still learning and experimenting 😎
Just what I needed, right when I needed it. Thanks!
Great video! The .m3u file for single disc games is really helpful. Thanks!
There's a much easier way to deal with the extra cue files. For a multi-disc game, rename the cue file extensions to cd1, cd2, cd3, etc. Then just use those same extensions in the m3u file.
If true this should be top comment
@@guillaumefahrni8960 I've been using these instructions from the RetroPie wiki: retropie.org.uk/docs/Playstation-1/
from someone who's excited for my RG351V but wasn't excited about creating an m3u for every single game in my fairly large ps1 library: THANK YOU for pointing out this method!
Man this is for me :)
Having a couple issues with psx and no clue what I’m doing.
Thanks!
What a video. This was extremely informative and saved me a lot of time
Good start to my morning
This was super helpful, thank you.
Cheers for this Russ, will defo help me tidy my sd card up
Can't get over how beautiful that screen is. I wish the landscape models used that screen.
Or even better, they release a GBA SP version. That would've been the perfect retro handheld. :)
An rk3326 or more powerful handheld in the SP form factor is my dream handheld right now, too!
extremely helpful, thanks!
Do the .m3u files work for RetroArch on Vita? There's no Select menu to remove file extensions, and nothing new shows unless you manually scan the directory (although scanning didn't seem to make a difference, I still only have two entries, one for the .bin and one for the .cue)
Nice video and again very informative and exciting :) Thank you 👋👍
What a huge help! Thank you so much!
love your video, very helpful!
I love how simple yet in-depth your vids are. All my PlayStation games are .pbp files so I didn't have to worry about most of this haha. Good to know how to change a disk when I finally need to, though!
True, I never get to play a game long enough to swap discs!
@@RetroGameCorps Sameeee I'm so bad about finishing games 😅
Well this has made my life a lot easier. Big thanks 👍
Great tutorial!
Rip, I found this just a tad too late. I spent several weeks setting up a Retroid Pocket 2 for my brother using the pegasus Front-end. And considering that a lot of the games I had the most trouble with making look nice in the menu were PS1 & Dreamcast games... I wish I found this sooner.
Oh well, next time my brother visits I can have this stuff set-up for him in advance and just upgrade it on the spot. Thanks for the tutorial! This is definitely going to help out my Rg351p a lot :)
You're a good brother
Very helpful thank you!! (My new favorite channel)
love this video man , its always a pain to change disk if you dont know how to and some of my favourite games are double discs.
Cool tip I've found - open retroarch in tools, and remap the hotkey from select to R3. No more accidental resets
And dude - you can hit select > edit metadata > to hide or rename multiple CUE files
For me, .chd is the weapon of choice for all disc-based systems if the core supports it.
Every time you show something new for the rg handhelds i want one more
When using ArkOS for PSX, you can subfolder your games to organize the files if you wish. The tools menu as a "create m3u files" for the PSX console, it will create a single file that links your subfolders to the game. Then you can "hide all buy m3u" files in the PSX directory to have a perfectly clean and organized game list :)
Still working on that for dreamcast.
thank you man !
I like your videos. It is notable that you put a lot of effort into it. I will continue to follow them with interest.
But if I may ask: What would you expect to be on the next higher version of an anbernic handheld, and what would you think we would really get? How do you think it will evolve?
Excellent! Was just trying to figure out the best way to do this! Since we are on the Playstation, can we talk about switching controller types? Having a heck of a time since switching to 351elec. Would like to see how to setup a standard digital controller, dual shock, and even negecon simulation through the analong stick for Ridge Racer if its possible.... Thank you!
Thanks for the info! The .m3u's really cleaned up my Playstation library. Before I was hiding disk 2 and swapping disks through retroacrch, and now I do not need multiple files labeled with (disk 1) and (disk 2) in my main library. Great optimization!
You are my hero.
I can really enjoy my RG351 with your tips and tricks.
Alone iam not competent enoght =D.
Thanks for your help!
Glad to hear it!
Thank you!
I've converted all my CD image files to .chd. It saves so much space, especially on handhelds.
Hey Russ, could you do a guide on how to convert PS1 roms that are in .bin and .cue and also .chd files to the very useful .pdp? .chd doesn't play nice with some PS1 emulators and plus, pdp is slightly compressed, making them take less room overall on the micro SD. I want to convert all my roms to pdp. Can you help me out? Thanks.
Thanks a lot for this video! I'm just getting into dreamcast emulation. It's interesting that chd files are slower in general on dreamcast. I want to get as much performance as I can for these games, so I'll switch to bin/raw/gdi. So my question is, for multi-disc dreamcast games how do you make the list tidy in emulation station? m3us don't work w/ dreamcast as far as I can tell. Or I guess another question would be, does it matter? Will multi-disc dreamcast games ever run smoothly anyway?
This was very helpful for organizing my PS1 games, especially with the multi-disc stuff. Now for some reason, even though everything is scraped, the games have stopped displaying the artwork and videos. Any ideas?
Great video as always. Where did you get those cool snes buttons?
"SakuraRetroModding" on etsy most likely. He makes button, screen bezel and sticker mods for this model and others.
There is another (non-existent) CD-based system, which is worth a tutrorial video as well: SNES-MSU
Thank you for this first step! I'm having some issues with Sega CD games, they are very sluggy for some reason. Keep bringing the CD games on.
Really? I've been testing Lunar and Shining Force and they worked fine. Which games do you have anyway?
@@sertiana2512 FMV games
@@johnlduncan I see. I guess fmv games work quite differently 😅 My few sega cd games are non fmv.
@@sertiana2512 it's not all games, thankfully Lunar runs
I'm running arkos on the 351v and under the main options menu, there are options PS1 - Generate m3u files and PS1 - Show only m3u files. Running these scripts does all the work for you. Make sure you don't already have any m3u files in your folder because they will cause problems with the tool. The tool only works with .cue and .chd files. After creating the files, you can scrape the media and you're done. While this tool saved me a lot of time, it is only for ps1 games (probably because dreamcast doesn't have many multi-disc games).
For anyone wondering, if you wanna keep your save files and save states, your .srm and .state files must have the same name as the .m3u file. Also you can create an m3u file with iso files, I don't know if m3u files can contain img files, but you can create cue files for the img files, and then put those cue files inside the m3u.
inside the M3u files, can i add .ISO files beside .cue files ?
@@Neosauying I don't know, never tried it
.m3u file can contain anything, but the emulator core must have support for that. You can even put full file names with the path to them or use relative path. I suppose it would be useless for handheld, but on my computer I prefer to create .m3u files for games I'm playing currently and to keep them on a different drive, so I wouldn't have to deal with dozen of files and folders when I choose a game in RetroArch.
@@Sergey_Latyshev thanks man :D
bro thanks
😃
Real lovely guides, thanks dude! If you're doing this on your mac do you/anyone in comment have an idea how it's done?
Two comments, firstly you can also hide the bin and cue files by moving them to a directory prefixed with a period, this makes it hidden, no need to mess with extension file types then. And secondly I believe bin and cue files are better than chd, due to the fact that emulsion station automatically will disk switch for you if the file is in bin and cue format (if named correctly), this will not happen with chd, at least that is what I have read.
Edit- you might also want to mention you can use winscp with 351ELEC too, saves wear and tear on the micro SD slot
Disc switching is the sole work of m3u file itself. It still works if each game is named correctly.
Yea it looks complicated but need some time to get nice look tnks you’re great 👍.
Personally, I find it easier to just manually hide the excess cue files for multidisk games via the select menu on the device itself. There is a toggle called "hidden" in the metadata section in that menu. It's a lot faster if you have like 50 psx games (only a handful are multidisk) and don't want to make m3u files for each single disk game. Then you just keep cue and m3u files enabled in the menu. You only need m3u files for the multidisk games.
Please make a Tutorial for CHD files. So it is easier to tell newbees how it works on discord =P
Good job!
just download the program called CHDMAN, extract is somewhere on your PC, put your bin and cue file into that folder and doubleclick on "Cue or GDI to CHD.bat" wait for a while and you will have your chd.. super easy
@@tawawani I know how to use it ;D
Read my post again.
This is great. Question though.. Does this need to be done every time I launch a multi disc game? Also, what about 3-4 disc games? Do I load just the first and last discs?
Hi! I've been following all your guides! You are the reason why I bought my 351V! What if i have an image disc instead of cue and bin files?
Hi, thanks for watching! IMG files should work fine, just make your m3u file based on those and bam, good to go.
Ape Eskape was one of my fav childhood games and that's exactly how I read it first time I played it cause I didn't speak English XDD
That classic oppeh escoppeh
Where in the world do you learn all this? Great video.
Thanks for the video! There is unfortunately a problem with m3u and RetroAchievements. Unfortunately, none are found when the game is started via the m3u. Therefore, unfortunately, I do not use them.
Crap....is this still true?
The intro song for this video sounds like an 8-bit version of To the Dregs by Wavves lol
Thank you for this. So far have not played far enough into a CD based multi disc game to need it but I learned how to make m3u lists from this and am now prepared to do so. Having not owned a PS growing up as soon as I get the time I will be sure to use this for the RPGs I never played.
Edit: coming back to this comment a couple of months later. So far I have not played a multi-disc game but it never registered to me how weird that is (?). So to continue with an m3u file I need to put disc 1 back even if I want to continue play on disc 2?
Heck yes! Snatcher time
I'm on Arkos and for PSX i have bin and cue files. I'm just keeping the cue file of the first disk as you can change to the other bin disk files in retroarch.
Nice tips. Personally, I find it easier to just manually hide the excess cue files for multidisk games via the select menu on the device itself. There is a toggle called "hidden" in the metadata section in that menu. It's a lot faster if you have like 50 psx games (only a handful are multidisk) and don't want to make m3u files for each single disk game. Then you just keep cue and m3u files enabled in the menu.
True, but any time you make a significant firmware or settings change you’ll have to re-hide them. Still a nice solution that doesn’t require making more files!
@@RetroGameCorps Yeah, a little more work up front saves time down the line.
First of all I would suggest converting all those track.bin files into one single new bin file with CDmage and overwrite the old cue file, that will leave you with only one cue & bin file, instead of having 15 single bin files for one single game.
To make multiple m3u files, put your files into folders and run a batch with:
for /R "%~dp0" %%I in (*.cue) do for %%J in ("%%~dpI.") do echo %%~nxI>>"%%~dpI%%~nxJ.m3u"
This saves you a lot of manual work and time.
True I also have a powershell script that will do all CHD files in a folder and make m3us while only preserving the filename and (country) in the final name.... I believe it can be modified to target any file extension in a folder easily though.
@@cleverestx Yes, you add whichever extension you want to have in a m3u playlist, very practical for handhelds with RetroArch as it supports playlists, makes the gamelist look much cleaner, especially for computer based systems.
Just edit in (*.cue, *.d64, *.dsk, *.atr), add whatever you need and as many as you want.
Thanks for the video! Super helpful, as always! I was finally able to get all my PlayStation games sorted out thanks to you! I have a question. I was taking the files from my Dreamcast game folders and putting them into the main folder and ran into a problem (maybe?). There's more than one game that has a file called 'track.1'. not sure what to do about that besides just keep my games separated into folders for the time being. Any help would be much appreciated.
Hi, you can change the file name from "track 1" to something that you can associate with the game ("sonic track 1"), and then just be sure to open the .gdi file with a text editor and change the names in there too. This functions a lot like the bin/cue structure on the PS1.
That did it! Thanks again bro..
Ahh great timing on this vid, I just upgraded to a bigger SD card and was struggling to get multi-disc PS1 & Dreamcast games going! Russ, I know this tutorial is PS1-focused, but do you know if the same can be applied for Dreamcast cue files? I'm not too clear on the distinction between cue/gdi files yet...
Cue and gdi are essentially the same thing so yes it should work
@@bson5192 hmmm it hasn't been working for me tho, for either cue or gdi. Upon further research in the EmuELEC wiki, it seems like EmuELEC might not be set up to recognize m3u files for Dreamcast?
@@fabiofabiobio having the same issue. 351elec doesn’t recognize m3u so not sure how it works for dreamcast
Are there downsides to php files other than their rarity? Also is there a way to just convert to php to simplify or is that also not a thing? Please pardon my total ignorance. Just a thought! Thanks Russ!
I absolutely loved this dude, but as I’m only listening to it, it does start to make my brain hurt😖😝 I’ll have to sit down with my PC and RG351P and go through it step-by-step😂😃
Eh can this trick be use for game in Famicom Disk System, MSX and Sharp x68000 which some of game require multiple Floppy Disk ?
What handheld would you recommend for best performance of disk based systems?
Do you have a video for CD-Based Systems on GarlicOS?
fucking legend man, content like this is so underrated
Hi Russ. I’m running your first Linux build for the RG552 (Batocera I think) I tried to “clean up” my PSX section by unselecting .bin files from the View Customization option and then the whole PSX section disappeared. Any advice on how to bring it back? At the Home Screen when I press select and look at available systems it is still checked. But no PSX section. Thanks for your help!
PBP! I love and prefer them for ps1. Usually have to use a converter to turn iso and bin files to pbp as ones I find often fail on my 351m
PBP doesn't support a lot of games with multiple tracks per disc. And like Russ said, converting pbp means you will miss the cue file, which is more or less needed to run each disc properly.
Hey Russ, great stuff as per usual!
So I’m running the latest version of arkOS on the rg351p- do you know if it is possible to load in/access music CDs(or music playlists?) for psx games like vib-Ribbon or the kaleidoscope visualizer? I’ve tried tinkering around in retroarch but can’t seem to gain any traction.
Thanks in advance for any thoughts or constructive comments!
That would be great for Monster Rancher too, in theory. You had to insert music CDs to summon different monsters, which would be a great aspect of the game to be able to emulate!
I love you
Great video as always! :) Quick question: the same principle applies to ccd/img files, as opposed to cue/bin files? I assume so, but I have to try it, specially with the m3u files :)
Where did you buy the SFC buttons?
I just noticed that I don't have pbp files for my multidisc games... I hope is easy to make them or to find another way to digitally eject/put new discs. I think most games ask to save before asking to change disks, so maybe I can save, exit the game and reload from a different disc? does that work? thank you for the video!!
Thanks for the Guide! I am new to these units and i actually bought an RG353M and it seems theres not a lot of info out there on your channel yet. at least as far as i have found anyways. a lot of the stuff from these RG351 units seem to apply about the same. my sd card came loaded with games, a lot of different file types of some of the games, vs just the cue and bin files from games ive located. Im on ArkOS 2.0, and have the option to use it to make the m3u files, but it doesnt make files for these other file types (iso, img, ccd, pbp, etc..) do i need to go into the config file and add them back to the list from (10:30)? some of the games dont have cue files, so it wont create the m3u file. any help would be appreciated!
**I found the webpage on the written guide to generate the cue files from the bin files.
If you only wish to use M3U files for multi-discs games, make use of subfolders, like having a "multidisc" subfolder, and put all your multi discs games in there, and have the contents of m3u files reflect the path to the discs, eg:
multidiscs/FF7 Disc1.chd
multidiscs/FF7 Disc2.chd
multidiscs/FF7 Disc3.chd
Put the m3u's in main psx folder, then hide the "multidiscs" subfolder from Emustation by editing its metadata.
Alot of My ps1 games are .ISO files or .IMG files. How do you deal with those? So I need to convert them to .bin and .cue files somehow? Sorry for the newbie question 😅
What about ps1 games like Final fantasy Anthology and Final Fantasy Chronicles that have two different games on two different discs? Should I still make an .m3u file or is it safe to leave those as separate .cue's
Is this the same process for Dreamcast? As 351elec doesnt seem to display m3u for dreamcast?
Funny thing, most of the PsX games on my SD card are not beind read by 351Elec while they were ok on the stock firmware. Probably because I don't have cue files, but srm ones...
Man.. Please Tell me what THEME you used.. I Bored with Nes Box Theme
Awesome 👍 any chance you can do cd32…