Try using different mat to do product.acrylic productsfor box.pvc pipefor frame.price is ok.maybe go with old wood dont buy new.go with older look pn finishef producr.your work is excellant. El tejano
@@jesseramos1561 Thank you for watching! There's def a lot of different ways to cut on cost and still achieve an awesome product. Thank you for the comment!
Great video. I too make cornhole boards. Cost was one thing I had to look at because I was breaking even on them. Lots of people were buying them which inspired me to raise my prices. I think I was at $150 a set. I bumped it up to $200 and the orders got less. But at least I was making some money. I finally went to $245 a set. $250 seems to be that magic number that turns people off. I think your good on the price. I did however figure out a way to make my boards stand out from others by making them nesting. If you're interested, I can show you what I've done. I've always wondered what other woodworkers were using and charging.
@@kcluu9390 People really do either just don't care or forget that people have feelings. It's okay to think as such, but to go and post that was downright rude. Don't go on about how you just tell it like it is...that's just another way of saying I'm an asshole.
Uriel Valdez I agree with that! I think developing a skill at a young age is a lot more valuable than working somewhere else! Thanks for watching Uriel!
I build mine with 2x3 edges and legs (2×3×8 are only $2 each). Makes them way stronger and cheaper to build. I've stood on mine and I weigh around 250# and they hold up just fine. The bags dont seem to bounce quite as much either. I can build a set for $50-60 and put a full top custom cover vinyl skin for an additional $45-55. Since they are custom tops of anything the customer wants you could probably ask for $250-300 with bags included. I've seen some sell for even more.
Great comment and I'll def need to explore your option that sounds awesome! Good job getting 250-300 those are some very healthy margins right there! I've always wanted to try and do a vinyl cover!
I’ve been slowly getting more and more into woodworking. Been buying more tools, experimenting with new materials and techniques. I have been thinking about starting to make boards, but wasn’t sure how much money could be made off of them. Thanks for the vid 👍🏻
No problem! I’d strongly suggest getting into them, super easy to build and great margins! Also opens the door for other woodworking builds that challenge the mind a little more. Good luck with your small business!
Hey Zac, miss your videos man. That seems like a lot of money for the boards, but I’m not looking to buy one. What really matters is whether or not you can sell them, and you are. That’s an excellent business to get into and I’m glad it’s paying off for you. If this reaches a younger audience and inspires them to do the same thing, I really applaud you. We need more people in this craft! And hey...stop being a stranger, I miss your videos!
Thanks for the compliment Rob, I've really missed making videos recently! I'm hoping this inspires some younger people to give woodworking a try, it'll teach you a really helpful skill and build up some awesome business relationships. Definitely a better option than working at a minimum wage job (not that there is anything wrong with that either)!
Melrose Design Company what I notice about woodworking is my confidence to solve real world problems. Finding solutions and not giving up when I hit s problem. These are skills every kid should have going into the real world, and if they can make some money along the way...even better!
Using the Kreg jig can make the amount of labor seem minuscule if you have space to store flat stock. You can cut and drill everything when bored and nothing to do. When you get an order, you start assembling and finishing. I like your method using the kreg. I've always done the screwing from the top and cover with wood filler. Your method I can set aside a small amount of space with everything flat and have everything for 10 boards ready to go when an order comes through.
Yes that is exactly right! Usually when I have time I will cut and use the kreg jig to do some holes then pre assemble prior to an order even coming in. Thanks for watching!
One way to save a little time is to setup a router jig template that quickly places the large hole in the correct spot and use a template bit, it creates an amazingly clean edge no sanding required.
Dennis Pope crazy thing about that is I actually upgraded to getting that exact jog. Best $40 I’ve spent, plus my arm and wrists are saved now! Thanks for watching!
I just started making mine and did a price breakdown. Withought my time its $130 to make a set and polyethylene them. Thats 3/4" birch, Stainless fasteners, and double bracing. Built to ACL specs, cant get a set sold for $200. I enjoy making them, and have jigs setup for everything. Kreg, hole cut, red zone, etc. Id say your price is on point.
I have been making boards since 2004 and now I sell them for $300 a set with bags. I’m in VB as well. Have to agree that the Kreg jig is a game changer!
Interesting to get a peek behind the curtain. One of the biggest things is that you have demand of people buying them, so you can experiment with price differences as you go. I hear some people talking about some of my pricing being wrong or whatever, but you have to have demand or you can't charge anything. ;)
You're right about that! The demand in each area will be a bit different so you should charge accordingly. I've noticed you're either charging too much (and don't get any work) or you're charging too little and making nothing. All about that fine line that takes a little to get an understanding of. I don't think anyone ever really perfects gauging what your work is worth.
Craig Wilkinson I’ve actually thought about doing that but never actually did it. That’ll for sure strengthen them up, probably doesn’t add a lot of weight either!
This is awesome. I just got into making resin epoxy boards . But I enjoy it so much I want to do more with woodworking . Glad your video was recommended. Subbed
Thank you for watching and leaving such an awesome comment! Woodworking is a very fun and profitable business to be in for sure! Good luck your epoxy boards!
I had no idea that boards could sell for that much in Virginia Beach. I live here and had been thinking about making them to keep the shop running in the slow times. cool to see someone in the area making decent money off them
I’ve been making cornhole sets for a few years. Very basic. I sell them to an art shop that does projects with customers and my cornhole boards are a good seller. If you’re wanting to start selling these please take my advice and invest in the kreg pocket hole machine. It’s 429$ but it cut my pocket hole portion down from 18 minutes per set to 3 minutes per set. 1 10 set order paid for the tool and my arms have thanked me ever since. You don’t have to have it but when minutes are dollars it by far saves the most time of any other stage of cornhole board assembly. The next would the hole, I bought the 6” hole saw and a strong corded drill. That 200$ investment also makes the hole stage 3 times faster and gives a super clean hole.
Great looking boards! Love how the decals give it that custom finish! Thanks for taking the time to go into the costs for us. I just finished my first set of cornhole boards and made the mistake of telling the guy, before I even started, that I'd do them for $150 (luckily he's a friend). I went a little overboard, making hinged doors underneath for bag storage, 'friction blocks' that lock the 2 boards together when folded like a briefcase, rope handles, even a 27' long piece of thin rope which connects to the boards with a counter-sunk, quick release keychain, for easy placement of the boards for play. Final cost of all of my materials (right down to each screw) was just under $129. Sure didn't leave much for all my labor, including pre-drilling all my screw holes (100 in all!) and plugging them with wooden plugs I made with a plug-cutting bit! Oh well, live and learn! My next set will be less elaborate, and cost a bit more too!
@@Airbrush208 Yep that's exactly right! It's like counting money out there and I'm sure she appreciates the gifts that come from your woodworking business
Great overview Zac! I really liked the breakdown of it as a side hustle. Planning to build myself some and you are always the first person I think of when I think of cornhole boards😀👍
Been building them 7 years now. I router all edges top and bottom, design and make matching embroidered bags, use no decals, only stain, and same price...I think I gotta up my prices. Neighbor sells premade Chinese boards he puts a decal on, no clear coat, sells for $220 all day long. I'm doing something wrong but I'm nonstop busy all summer.
Really good to know! I think I could up my price a tad but I think the market would get a lot smaller. Chinese boards suck haha yours are probably way better
Also router all edges after a few times of bags being ripped open from hitting corners. I sell $225-300 depending what is added. Probably made about 200 sets so far with orders coming in weekly
You're not doing something wrong people don't appreciate good craftsmanship they'd rather buy that crap pre-made stuff than something has been made with some skill
Thanks Adam I'm glad you appreciated that! You may not start off making what an Uber driver makes but the long term skills you pick up will last a lifetime and will be way more profitable.
🙌🙌💰💵💵 Get it, Zac! Love this video - 4 hours sounds pretty quick for these, but after seeing the simple painting/finishing process and outsourcing the decals it makes perfect sense!
Thanks you two! The 4 hours is probably cooking it when it comes to building more than 2 sets. I've noticed that it takes about the same amount of time to build one set compared to two. I probably should include labor costs for sourcing materials like the ply and hardware but did not include it here since its probably unique to each persons case. Thanks for watching! We should colab in the future, it could turn out pretty neat.
Hey Zac, great videos and love your presentation style. Maybe somebody asked you already but do you also provide the actual bags for the cornhole game? This is something I hope my son will be doing when he gets to high school and develops some entrepreneurial skills!
Sorry I missed your comment! I do not provide the bags. These are for the boards only, I usually direct people to amazon or a few local spots for bags here! Hopefully you and your son get some good business! Good luck
We actually have a Cricut. Only thing is the decal could only be a solid color and the size is limited to 1'x1'. I usually go with bigger decals if I can. Great suggestion and thanks for watching! I'm going to check your channel out right now
Never made these before, but considering making a set just so I have something fun to do when people invite me to boring parties. The corn home boards at the sporting goods stores say “regulation size” and have some kinda regulation or association or something stamp on them. You may want to look into that, as if you make them regulation size and stamp them, it’s something you can add to your marketing for them.
Great call Jeremy! I've seen that stamp at Dicks sporting goods. I think its through the cornhole association or something like that. That is another great point about as far as marketing and making the sale. I currently don't market that.
Nice work, I use 3/4 plywood for the tops, and 5/4 deckboards ripped in half for the frames and legs. (Pocket holes too) Usually around 6 bucks ea for 5/4 boards and only need 2 per set of boards. I did that to save weight and $$
Outstanding video. I live in southern WV, but VB is my home away from home, navy fighter pilots in the family!! Love that jet noise. Just started tinkering with woodwork myself.
We actually live close to oceana, all the jets come by our house on final. It's pretty cool hearing that roaring engine. Glad you enjoyed the video and good luck woodworking! It's really an awesome line of work/ hobby!
I should have clarified that. My price only reflects the board set. I'll always tell my customer that bags are not included in the price. I usually refer them to amazon for bags that are reasonably priced. Thanks for watching!
Regarding the price you charge. Some customers buy products and services at the lowest price possible and some pay more. I believe there is alway a market for quality and quality costs more in labor and material. People who say you charge too much may want to buy the lower quality product. Simple supply and demand. Good video!
I agree 100%,, I actually started out making lower end boards with 2x4's and half inch ply unfinished. Obviously I got less for those. Upgraded a few parts with nicer wood and made it as custom as possible which in turn made the build more fun and more profitable. Thanks for watching and leaving a great comment!
I too make cornhole boards, but in Iowa. I've gone paint/decals to stain. You should check out moose boards or moss boards and see what they put out using stain. Excellent video btw.
Funny you say that I follow them on Instagram and they make great looking boards. I gave the gel stain a try once, a lot harder than they make it look lol. Thanks for watching!
I sell our boards between $250-350 per set depending on design needed and if we do full vinyl wrap or stained set with a decal. Our boards also come with the bags and a built in score board. We feature a recessed frame and rounded corners. All edges are rounded with a 1/8 round over bit. Our full vinyl wraps also are on PVC sheet goods. I found Radiata pine .75” plywood for $35 a sheet. What I like about that product is the thickness of the top veneer.
Thanks for that info that is a really nice board! I do really want to research ply wood, currently I get ply wood at a hardware store but the quality sometimes just isn’t there. I’ll check into that brand you referenced! If you have a website I’d love to see your work! Thanks for watching
www.homedepot.com/p/Cabinet-Grade-Plywood-Panel-Common-23-32-in-x-4-ft-x-8-ft-Actual-0-688-in-x-48-in-x-96-in-1077486/302610611 The top layer of veneer is at least 3/32
Ah! I'm watching from the Netherlands but I used to live in VA Beach, how nice to hear the 757 casually mentioned. I learned about cornholing there and I am considering starting to sell them here in NL, though I haven't a clue if there's a market. I'm a decent woodworker already but mostly make furniture. This would be a nice side-hussle so I can spend more money on wood and tools :) Thanks for this video
Awesome to hear Nathalie! If you build furniture on the side, cornholes will be a walk in the park for you! You should make a test set and see how it does out there you never know what people might like! Thank you for watching and leaving me a comment!
@@ZacJones I will definitely make a test set for myself as I don't have CP Shuckers here for my cornholing fix. I am pretty sure it will go down great here! Thanks for the inspo.
If you aren't sure about how they'd be received over there, make 2-4 sets and host a "charity tournament" where people pay a small fee to play, while all the money goes to the charity. BUT, you have a kiosk where you sell your products. You could also rent a space at a local brewery, restaurant, bar, fair, bizarre, or other function to show people the game. Cheap exposure for your new hobby as well as you furniture.
Shannon P wow that was very well thought out. I know that was meant for Nathalie but I may take some of that advice for myself 😂 thanks for watching and leaving a great comment
@@shannonp4037 Wow Shannon, that's a wonderful idea!! We have similar 'Kubben' (another yard game, from Scandinavia) events here, which is very popular. People will get together in parks for tournaments. I will definitely consider setting something up for a cornhole charity event! Thanks so much for your kindness.
Great video. One question though. Why brush on the Polycrylic as opposed to a small HVLP spray gun? I got three for $10 each at a Harbor Freight Parking Lot Sale awhile back and have gotten to using noting else with water based Poly and lacquers. No brush strokes and nice even coats.
Funny you said that Rick I have since bought a Fuji HVLP spray gun and I can never go back to brushes again! the finish looks so much better than it did with a brush! My intent with this video was to show how anyone can get in on building boards for a small side business and I know some people may not have a compressor or HVLP gun. Wanted to show a bare minimal way to assemble and finish these boards. Thank you for your comment!
Might I suggest using 1/2" Baltic birch as the top. It will cut down on the weight but the ends look a whole better than regular sanded plywood . Great video and information
people in this area ( indiana ) will never pay that price i have even made some with glow in the dark paint and other features. such as handles and score keeping. and at 175$ a set i get told my price is too high. i am making peanuts at that price. so good on you for being able to make and sell them at that price.
I’ve heard similar accounts in other areas. When I first started out I sold them for $150 and i received feed back that that price was too low so I upped my price as I built my portfolio up and found a good price for this area in Virginia! Good luck, hopefully you can get that price up more, they’re a pain in the butt to build
@@ZacJones sounds like you are in a great area for it. keep it up man. i am currently experimenting with different projects to see what is more profitable.
Thank you this was good information, I'm looking into starting to build and sell boards. One question, my big box store 4x8 sheets of ply wood are not exactly 4x8. are your boards exactly 24x4? does this mean I need one 4x8 sheet to make two boards? thanks
I make cajon drums. I use Baltic birch because it’s the best wood for sound quality on drums which translates into costly. Factor in hardware and knowhow then your looking at minimum $125 for the bigger drum. Now walk into any music store and you’ll find they sale for less all the time and being a small independent drum maker I can’t compete with the big name drum makers. I love making drums and I love drumming so it’s a difficult choice I’m faced with. Cornhole boards seem the logical switch for me so I’ll give it a try. All my tools are Harbor Freight and I don’t use a table saw at all. My cuts are occasionally straying but that’s why God made sandpaper 😳. Everything I know about woodwork came from many hours of TH-cam videos and books. I’ve found that wasting a $37 piece of wood is a great deterrent to being lazy and sloppy so scrap wood has become a no no to me. Also, you teach good habits so thank you for that.
How do you market yourself? I made a similar set about 10 years ago with custom graphics and I’d like to parlay my skills into a business. I’m already a freelance artist/designer but business has been tough since Covid.
How do u get 2 sets of boards out of 1 sheet of plywood and still end up with the boards being 2x4? You lose 1/16 with every saw cut right? Measurements dont add up, or am I missing something?
Dennis Pope ya all these prices are based off HD or Lowe’s suppliers. I could looks for cheaper Ply at lumber yards like you were saying. Thanks for watching!
Melrose Design Company I’ll second what he said. I buy most my pine based stuff for small projects at big box stores, but for larger stuff or hardwood, I go to a local lumber yard. In example, Lowe’s by my house has red oak for double the price of the lumber yard. The lumber yards hard maple is almost the same price as Lowe’s select pine. That’s a HUGE difference.
@@JeremyB8419 Great call on that! If i do a hardwood project I'm 100% going to a lumber yard to get the best pricing. For small projects like this I go to my hardware store right around the corner and pick up exactly what I need, Thanks for the comment!
Agreed. At a lumber supply, you will get better materials for what you are paying in pine. You can then market it as a much higher end product, which it is. Plus you save on the ply.
Mr Zac how are you! I m watching all of your video. Perfect product and superb craftsmanship. But since it takes so much time to produce by hand, why not consider using a CO2 laser machine cutter to improve efficiency
@@Rufio6814 ,It's probably because I have been a carpenter and cabinet maker for 29 years. Little things like that bother me. It's a lot like when people stain Pine or Basswood with Cherry stain and call it Cherry. It's either being ignorant or dishonest. Either way I don't like it. Btw, I don't think this fellow is either ignorant or dishonest, I think he is a newer woodworker that put his trust in a big box store. No harm, no foul. Btw, he could really cut down on his cost and up his quality by sourcing the lumber and plywood through a hardwood dealer and those carriage bolts, nuts and washer should also be sourced through a fastener supplier. He should have less than $3.00 total for the bolts.
My stores all say select pine and they contain knots. The section of Premium pine is knot free.... :shrug: I guess the lumber companies that source the wood are fucking stupid?
Like the video very informative just few days ago my son and I made one for the first time doing came out good would like to make some more maybe sell too thanks
How do you like that pine? I use the same stuff but only for legs. A lot of the stuff they have at HD is warped and pricey now. But do u use anything else now?
Hey i cut my hole 🕳 a little too big. I didn’t have a 6” hole saw at the time and didn’t want to spend the money so I used what I had which was a jig saw. Any tips on how to patch the edges to make the hole smaller? I was thinking some time of screen and wood filler, then I could re-cut to the correct size
Informative video but I am confused by your math. You say at 7:18 that you sell these for $225 which comes out to $450. ?? So, do you sell a set for $225 or is a set $450 and a single board is $225?
Matthew Reitz I usually get all of my orders from Instagram. I tag as much local hashtags as I can think of and that usually drums up some business. Also once you get your portfolio going then people start referring their friends. I typically stray away from etsy and shipping because I don’t trust my board getting there in good shape
Zac Jones I was thinking about making some unique ones for Etsy but once you factor in shipping, forget about it. You’re lucky to have such a market local.
Looks like we are neighbors. I'm here in Portsmouth. I just bought a 8 x 12 shed from Old Hickory buildings and I'm making it a wood shop. I am a welder/fitter by trade, so I hope I can use much of my skills to build some corn hole boards. Thanks for sharing. subbed you. I have a channel, if you are interested in Metal detedting. LOL. take care.
are you using a hardwood plywood like birch or maple? wondering why not the $30 sheets of pine ply instead? since you use select pine for the boards anyway just curious
SkinnySkinch I use the 3/4” ply wood usually maple or oak veneer. In my area it costs about $52 for a sheet of ply wood. I try and get the best quality I can find
I used a router for the sides. If you don't have a router the pine is actually soft enough for you to round over using an orbital sander, just takes more time and wont be as round.
Now that lumber prices are higher, much higher (3/4" plywood in NY is between $50 - $75 for a 4 x 8 sheet) do you raise your price to cover the cost increase? I'm hoping to get $200 for a set but that honestly doesn't give me much profit.
Yes I always increase my prices if materials increase. I communicate to the customer during the initial solicitation that lumber prices have driven up my prices. If the customer is a fan of your work 9/10 they will pay for it. The woodworker should NEVER absorb the cost of raising materials prices to get a job. That hurts your business and if the customer is unwilling to pay an extra $25-$40 to cover material costs you probably shouldn't be working with them. Thanks for watching!
Why can't you get (4) 2'x4' boards out of a standard sized sheet of plywood? Your cost analysis of one sheet of plywood (looks like birch) at $52 assumes it is good for one corn hole board. I would use poplar for the sides which is inexpensive and is available without knots. Stained and polar will not appear green. Good job! The video appears a bit too dark, at least on my end. Can you do sports teams without having to get a license from them?
Thanks for watching! I could upgrade and do poplar on the sides which I have in the past, a lot stronger than pine that's for sure! The video is really dark, when I was filming I mistakenly underexposed all the shots while shooting LOG and it was very difficult in post brining the highlights up so it turned out dark unfortunately
$10 per decal for a custom decal seems pretty cheap! Is it a sign store that you got the decals from? I'm in NH and am curious what kind of places I should be looking into for that kind of pricing!
That sounds like an excellent future video idea! I get a majority of my orders through referrals and Instagram. I do a lot of boards for businesses in the Virginia Beach area. A lot of the business owners are friends with one another and generally refer me to other business/ people.
Thank you for watching! and I usually put a minimum of three coats on. Honestly the more the better. I recommend adding a coat each season to keep the decals in great shape
When I first heard the term "corn hole" , Well in this day and time. I was somewhat taken aback. When I first heard the term was in about 1949 and it referred to a total different thing, which wasn't used in mixed company. I just have to get up to the modern language use of phrases. I'm not trying to cause any type of problem, I just had not heard that phrase in quite a while. (I only put this out so you and others may get a little history of the term. I apologize, and don't mean to be ugly to anyone. I was just surprised.
T.M. H. It does sound like a very strange word. I used to call it bean bags. Down south here everyone knows it as corn hole because the bags are filled with dried corn and you toss it into the hole. I can imagine what the term was back in 1949 though 😂 thanks for the comment I wouldn’t have known
If you are going to make more than just a few of these, find a different supplier than the big box stores. You will get a better price, certainly on the 1x4, at a lumber yard. Also buy your hardware in bulk and save a lot.
Brian Munroe ive looked into that as well! Probably a higher quality ply wood too! Bulk hardware is super cheap and I’ve actually since bought a huge pack of like 100 carriage bolts and accessories to bring that cost down!
You can get a machine to make the decals yourself for a couple hundred dollars instead of having to spend $10 each time. If you make $181 in profit, you just need to do that twice, then invest it into a decal cutter and then your profit margin increases by $10. You can use it for years across lots of different types of projects.
What about shipping costs? Please help me understand that aspect of it! If your business blows up and say I want one in MI, then what? Would love to hear your thoughts. Thanks
Hey Will, havent figured the logistics of shipping just yet. Currently there is a lot of business for them where I live in Virginia Beach so I haven't really thought about extending any further. I have gotten info on shipping costs and they vary substantially. There are programs out there where you can pay a monthly fee and ship pretty cheaply, the boxes do cost some good money. For now me and my business will stick with local, too much risk in shipping right now.
Hey Zac, how’s it going? I’ve recently gotten into carpentry and cornhole boards are pretty popular in my area. I just finished my 1st of boards as a Christmas gift. I’ve had people request some but don’t know what to charge. Most of the wraps/decals are from eBay/Etsy. Thank you!
Abel that is great to here people are wanting your cornhole boards! So I started off selling my cornhole boards for $150 a set. They started flying out the door and I couldn't keep up so I took my price up to $225 a set, I found that price to be fairly competitive. Some people who DM me say they actually charge more in their area. Do a few boards and build a portfolio up. Once you have that you can easily raise your price. Be aware though I shot this video prior to the pandemic so lumber prices have inflated a bit so be sure to check that out. Good luck and let me know how it goes for you!
@@ZacJones thank you! Yeah I’ve taken account about the rise in pricing. I just posted a video of my boards on my channel but TH-cam screws up the picture quality lol. It’s also on my tiktok if you want to take a better look. Thanks for the advice!
They are a game that is played in the US, sometimes called bean bags. You get 1 point for getting the bag on the board and 3 points if you get it in the hole. First to 21 wins. Thanks for watching and sorry for the lack of explanation on what they are.
Greetings from Southwestern VA! I find that the $225 price point is a little tough to hit here even in the college town of Virginia Tech. you said four hours to make two sets of boards? Does that include painting time and so forth? You've gotten very efficient at them!
AC Nailed It yes it does! I only do a quick stripe around them which takes no time at all (doesn’t include dry time) love the Blacksburg are! Especially in the fall!
What do you guys think? Do I charge too much or not enough.
Try using different mat to do product.acrylic productsfor box.pvc pipefor frame.price is ok.maybe go with old wood dont buy new.go with older look pn finishef producr.your work is excellant. El tejano
@@jesseramos1561 Thank you for watching! There's def a lot of different ways to cut on cost and still achieve an awesome product. Thank you for the comment!
I wanna do this as a side gig
@@dilyjr You totally should! great source of income and pretty cheap way to get into woodworking
Great video. I too make cornhole boards. Cost was one thing I had to look at because I was breaking even on them. Lots of people were buying them which inspired me to raise my prices. I think I was at $150 a set. I bumped it up to $200 and the orders got less. But at least I was making some money. I finally went to $245 a set. $250 seems to be that magic number that turns people off. I think your good on the price. I did however figure out a way to make my boards stand out from others by making them nesting. If you're interested, I can show you what I've done. I've always wondered what other woodworkers were using and charging.
6:20 is the price breakdown and profits
You're welcome 🙃
Y2020ou2020Tu2020be i love when people do this for us watchers
Thank you. No one cares about everything else he has to say.
@@kcluu9390 People really do either just don't care or forget that people have feelings. It's okay to think as such, but to go and post that was downright rude. Don't go on about how you just tell it like it is...that's just another way of saying I'm an asshole.
not all heroes wear capes...
Im always supportive of DIY and small businesses, glad to hear you shout out to the youngsters.
Uriel Valdez I agree with that! I think developing a skill at a young age is a lot more valuable than working somewhere else! Thanks for watching Uriel!
Just started making corn holes, made my first 2 sets and I’ll be selling them for 100 each pair
I build mine with 2x3 edges and legs (2×3×8 are only $2 each). Makes them way stronger and cheaper to build. I've stood on mine and I weigh around 250# and they hold up just fine. The bags dont seem to bounce quite as much either. I can build a set for $50-60 and put a full top custom cover vinyl skin for an additional $45-55. Since they are custom tops of anything the customer wants you could probably ask for $250-300 with bags included. I've seen some sell for even more.
Great comment and I'll def need to explore your option that sounds awesome! Good job getting 250-300 those are some very healthy margins right there! I've always wanted to try and do a vinyl cover!
I’ve been slowly getting more and more into woodworking. Been buying more tools, experimenting with new materials and techniques. I have been thinking about starting to make boards, but wasn’t sure how much money could be made off of them. Thanks for the vid 👍🏻
No problem! I’d strongly suggest getting into them, super easy to build and great margins! Also opens the door for other woodworking builds that challenge the mind a little more. Good luck with your small business!
Hey Zac, miss your videos man. That seems like a lot of money for the boards, but I’m not looking to buy one. What really matters is whether or not you can sell them, and you are.
That’s an excellent business to get into and I’m glad it’s paying off for you. If this reaches a younger audience and inspires them to do the same thing, I really applaud you. We need more people in this craft!
And hey...stop being a stranger, I miss your videos!
Thanks for the compliment Rob, I've really missed making videos recently! I'm hoping this inspires some younger people to give woodworking a try, it'll teach you a really helpful skill and build up some awesome business relationships. Definitely a better option than working at a minimum wage job (not that there is anything wrong with that either)!
Melrose Design Company what I notice about woodworking is my confidence to solve real world problems. Finding solutions and not giving up when I hit s problem. These are skills every kid should have going into the real world, and if they can make some money along the way...even better!
@@MakeThings YES!!! Perfectly said right there!
Using the Kreg jig can make the amount of labor seem minuscule if you have space to store flat stock. You can cut and drill everything when bored and nothing to do. When you get an order, you start assembling and finishing. I like your method using the kreg. I've always done the screwing from the top and cover with wood filler. Your method I can set aside a small amount of space with everything flat and have everything for 10 boards ready to go when an order comes through.
Yes that is exactly right! Usually when I have time I will cut and use the kreg jig to do some holes then pre assemble prior to an order even coming in. Thanks for watching!
One way to save a little time is to setup a router jig template that quickly places the large hole in the correct spot and use a template bit, it creates an amazingly clean edge no sanding required.
Dennis Pope crazy thing about that is I actually upgraded to getting that exact jog. Best $40 I’ve spent, plus my arm and wrists are saved now! Thanks for watching!
HE IS NOT A WOODWORKER SO JIG IS OUT OF THE QUESTION
Yes! Im building one currently bc hole saw catches and yanks my wrists lol
I just started making mine and did a price breakdown. Withought my time its $130 to make a set and polyethylene them. Thats 3/4" birch, Stainless fasteners, and double bracing. Built to ACL specs, cant get a set sold for $200. I enjoy making them, and have jigs setup for everything. Kreg, hole cut, red zone, etc.
Id say your price is on point.
I have been making boards since 2004 and now I sell them for $300 a set with bags. I’m in VB as well. Have to agree that the Kreg jig is a game changer!
Interesting to get a peek behind the curtain. One of the biggest things is that you have demand of people buying them, so you can experiment with price differences as you go. I hear some people talking about some of my pricing being wrong or whatever, but you have to have demand or you can't charge anything. ;)
You're right about that! The demand in each area will be a bit different so you should charge accordingly. I've noticed you're either charging too much (and don't get any work) or you're charging too little and making nothing. All about that fine line that takes a little to get an understanding of. I don't think anyone ever really perfects gauging what your work is worth.
I found that adding a 1x4 cross member between the legs makes the entire board much more stable when in use
Craig Wilkinson I’ve actually thought about doing that but never actually did it. That’ll for sure strengthen them up, probably doesn’t add a lot of weight either!
This is awesome. I just got into making resin epoxy boards . But I enjoy it so much I want to do more with woodworking . Glad your video was recommended. Subbed
Thank you for watching and leaving such an awesome comment! Woodworking is a very fun and profitable business to be in for sure! Good luck your epoxy boards!
I had no idea that boards could sell for that much in Virginia Beach. I live here and had been thinking about making them to keep the shop running in the slow times. cool to see someone in the area making decent money off them
Great video and thanks for taking the time to share!
Good luck and hope you keep selling many more projects!
Joshua Meldru thanks for watching! The cornhole business is booming as of recent, it always is around football season and Christmas.
I’ve been making cornhole sets for a few years. Very basic. I sell them to an art shop that does projects with customers and my cornhole boards are a good seller. If you’re wanting to start selling these please take my advice and invest in the kreg pocket hole machine. It’s 429$ but it cut my pocket hole portion down from 18 minutes per set to 3 minutes per set. 1 10 set order paid for the tool and my arms have thanked me ever since. You don’t have to have it but when minutes are dollars it by far saves the most time of any other stage of cornhole board assembly. The next would the hole, I bought the 6” hole saw and a strong corded drill. That 200$ investment also makes the hole stage 3 times faster and gives a super clean hole.
Great looking boards! Love how the decals give it that custom finish! Thanks for taking the time to go into the costs for us.
I just finished my first set of cornhole boards and made the mistake of telling the guy, before I even started, that I'd do them for $150 (luckily he's a friend). I went a little overboard, making hinged doors underneath for bag storage, 'friction blocks' that lock the 2 boards together when folded like a briefcase, rope handles, even a 27' long piece of thin rope which connects to the boards with a counter-sunk, quick release keychain, for easy placement of the boards for play. Final cost of all of my materials (right down to each screw) was just under $129. Sure didn't leave much for all my labor, including pre-drilling all my screw holes (100 in all!) and plugging them with wooden plugs I made with a plug-cutting bit! Oh well, live and learn! My next set will be less elaborate, and cost a bit more too!
The most important thing is that your wife knows where you are. In the garage making corn hole boards.
That’s exactly right, sometimes she will make a surprise visit and help me assemble the boards! Thanks for watching!
That's Me ,wife says, "your out there all day,how you do that?,Well it's because every set I finish $100 goes in my wallet sweet heart..lol..
@@Airbrush208 Yep that's exactly right! It's like counting money out there and I'm sure she appreciates the gifts that come from your woodworking business
I think "avisitorhere" might be Zac's wife! lol ;-)
Great overview Zac! I really liked the breakdown of it as a side hustle. Planning to build myself some and you are always the first person I think of when I think of cornhole boards😀👍
Been building them 7 years now. I router all edges top and bottom, design and make matching embroidered bags, use no decals, only stain, and same price...I think I gotta up my prices. Neighbor sells premade Chinese boards he puts a decal on, no clear coat, sells for $220 all day long. I'm doing something wrong but I'm nonstop busy all summer.
Really good to know! I think I could up my price a tad but I think the market would get a lot smaller. Chinese boards suck haha yours are probably way better
Also router all edges after a few times of bags being ripped open from hitting corners. I sell $225-300 depending what is added. Probably made about 200 sets so far with orders coming in weekly
You're not doing something wrong people don't appreciate good craftsmanship they'd rather buy that crap pre-made stuff than something has been made with some skill
I have been building in Washington State for about 2 years. I sell for $300 including lights and bags (that costs me about $40) Nice work!
Thank you! And awesome work on charging $300, I like how yours is one stop shop for bags and boards.
That last bit about picking woodworking over Uber, because you develope a trade and a relationship within your community... A+ advise
Thanks Adam I'm glad you appreciated that! You may not start off making what an Uber driver makes but the long term skills you pick up will last a lifetime and will be way more profitable.
Smart Bro! Shout out from San Diego, these are awesome
🙌🙌💰💵💵 Get it, Zac! Love this video - 4 hours sounds pretty quick for these, but after seeing the simple painting/finishing process and outsourcing the decals it makes perfect sense!
Thanks you two! The 4 hours is probably cooking it when it comes to building more than 2 sets. I've noticed that it takes about the same amount of time to build one set compared to two. I probably should include labor costs for sourcing materials like the ply and hardware but did not include it here since its probably unique to each persons case. Thanks for watching! We should colab in the future, it could turn out pretty neat.
I’m from VA Beach also. Glad to see someone local on here. Nice job.
Carey Salander I always thought it was cool seeing people from Virginia Beach on here too. Thanks for watching!
Hey Zac, great videos and love your presentation style. Maybe somebody asked you already but do you also provide the actual bags for the cornhole game? This is something I hope my son will be doing when he gets to high school and develops some entrepreneurial skills!
Sorry I missed your comment! I do not provide the bags. These are for the boards only, I usually direct people to amazon or a few local spots for bags here! Hopefully you and your son get some good business! Good luck
Get a cricut or silhouette decal cutter, and make yourself more money doing the decals yourself. Those things seem pretty popular.
We actually have a Cricut. Only thing is the decal could only be a solid color and the size is limited to 1'x1'. I usually go with bigger decals if I can. Great suggestion and thanks for watching! I'm going to check your channel out right now
What an interesting video. I started watching skydive videos, and found myself here. Glad i did. Nice job.
You should try to make yourself a parachute out of wood.. Balsa, maybe? :D
Never made these before, but considering making a set just so I have something fun to do when people invite me to boring parties. The corn home boards at the sporting goods stores say “regulation size” and have some kinda regulation or association or something stamp on them. You may want to look into that, as if you make them regulation size and stamp them, it’s something you can add to your marketing for them.
Great call Jeremy! I've seen that stamp at Dicks sporting goods. I think its through the cornhole association or something like that. That is another great point about as far as marketing and making the sale. I currently don't market that.
Don't forget to add the price of pocket hole screws and masking tape. Interesting to see how much wood prices have gone up in 3 years.
Nice work, I use 3/4 plywood for the tops, and 5/4 deckboards ripped in half for the frames and legs. (Pocket holes too) Usually around 6 bucks ea for 5/4 boards and only need 2 per set of boards. I did that to save weight and $$
That sounds awesome! I’ll have to loook into that deck board.
Outstanding video. I live in southern WV, but VB is my home away from home, navy fighter pilots in the family!! Love that jet noise. Just started tinkering with woodwork myself.
We actually live close to oceana, all the jets come by our house on final. It's pretty cool hearing that roaring engine. Glad you enjoyed the video and good luck woodworking! It's really an awesome line of work/ hobby!
Great insight into making the boards, The question I have is do you make your own bags or do you buy them online?
I should have clarified that. My price only reflects the board set. I'll always tell my customer that bags are not included in the price. I usually refer them to amazon for bags that are reasonably priced. Thanks for watching!
Regarding the price you charge. Some customers buy products and services at the lowest price possible and some pay more. I believe there is alway a market for quality and quality costs more in labor and material. People who say you charge too much may want to buy the lower quality product. Simple supply and demand. Good video!
I agree 100%,, I actually started out making lower end boards with 2x4's and half inch ply unfinished. Obviously I got less for those. Upgraded a few parts with nicer wood and made it as custom as possible which in turn made the build more fun and more profitable. Thanks for watching and leaving a great comment!
I too make cornhole boards, but in Iowa. I've gone paint/decals to stain. You should check out moose boards or moss boards and see what they put out using stain. Excellent video btw.
Funny you say that I follow them on Instagram and they make great looking boards. I gave the gel stain a try once, a lot harder than they make it look lol. Thanks for watching!
I sell our boards between $250-350 per set depending on design needed and if we do full vinyl wrap or stained set with a decal.
Our boards also come with the bags and a built in score board.
We feature a recessed frame and rounded corners. All edges are rounded with a 1/8 round over bit.
Our full vinyl wraps also are on PVC sheet goods.
I found Radiata pine .75” plywood for $35 a sheet. What I like about that product is the thickness of the top veneer.
Thanks for that info that is a really nice board! I do really want to research ply wood, currently I get ply wood at a hardware store but the quality sometimes just isn’t there. I’ll check into that brand you referenced! If you have a website I’d love to see your work! Thanks for watching
Www.kernelscornhole.com
I found the radiatta pine at home depot. Not every store carries it but it was a good find.
www.homedepot.com/p/Cabinet-Grade-Plywood-Panel-Common-23-32-in-x-4-ft-x-8-ft-Actual-0-688-in-x-48-in-x-96-in-1077486/302610611
The top layer of veneer is at least 3/32
I have the Kreg Foreman and that works even better.
Awesome video! Good to see you posting again.
Thanks man! Can't wait to see your next video either!
Ah! I'm watching from the Netherlands but I used to live in VA Beach, how nice to hear the 757 casually mentioned. I learned about cornholing there and I am considering starting to sell them here in NL, though I haven't a clue if there's a market. I'm a decent woodworker already but mostly make furniture. This would be a nice side-hussle so I can spend more money on wood and tools :) Thanks for this video
Awesome to hear Nathalie! If you build furniture on the side, cornholes will be a walk in the park for you! You should make a test set and see how it does out there you never know what people might like! Thank you for watching and leaving me a comment!
@@ZacJones I will definitely make a test set for myself as I don't have CP Shuckers here for my cornholing fix. I am pretty sure it will go down great here! Thanks for the inspo.
If you aren't sure about how they'd be received over there, make 2-4 sets and host a "charity tournament" where people pay a small fee to play, while all the money goes to the charity. BUT, you have a kiosk where you sell your products. You could also rent a space at a local brewery, restaurant, bar, fair, bizarre, or other function to show people the game. Cheap exposure for your new hobby as well as you furniture.
Shannon P wow that was very well thought out. I know that was meant for Nathalie but I may take some of that advice for myself 😂 thanks for watching and leaving a great comment
@@shannonp4037 Wow Shannon, that's a wonderful idea!! We have similar 'Kubben' (another yard game, from Scandinavia) events here, which is very popular. People will get together in parks for tournaments. I will definitely consider setting something up for a cornhole charity event! Thanks so much for your kindness.
Great video. One question though. Why brush on the Polycrylic as opposed to a small HVLP spray gun? I got three for $10 each at a Harbor Freight Parking Lot Sale awhile back and have gotten to using noting else with water based Poly and lacquers. No brush strokes and nice even coats.
Funny you said that Rick I have since bought a Fuji HVLP spray gun and I can never go back to brushes again! the finish looks so much better than it did with a brush! My intent with this video was to show how anyone can get in on building boards for a small side business and I know some people may not have a compressor or HVLP gun. Wanted to show a bare minimal way to assemble and finish these boards. Thank you for your comment!
How well does the HF unit spray latex paint? I paint most of my boards with 3 coats. Takes longer to paint/poly than to build.
Might I suggest using 1/2" Baltic birch as the top. It will cut down on the weight but the ends look a whole better than regular sanded plywood
. Great video and information
Good call Troy! I think I might have to give it a try! Thank you for watching!
I also drill 3/4 " holes in one side and make handles out of rope to carry... much better than hand thru hole method of transporting....
ROCKY WILEY that’s a good call, I really want to cut out a hand hole and route it over, I think that would look cool too!
This is great. Keep on cornholing in the free world
Thank you! You all have an awesome channel by the way!
people in this area ( indiana ) will never pay that price i have even made some with glow in the dark paint and other features. such as handles and score keeping. and at 175$ a set i get told my price is too high. i am making peanuts at that price. so good on you for being able to make and sell them at that price.
I’ve heard similar accounts in other areas. When I first started out I sold them for $150 and i received feed back that that price was too low so I upped my price as I built my portfolio up and found a good price for this area in Virginia! Good luck, hopefully you can get that price up more, they’re a pain in the butt to build
@@ZacJones sounds like you are in a great area for it. keep it up man. i am currently experimenting with different projects to see what is more profitable.
Thank you this was good information, I'm looking into starting to build and sell boards. One question, my big box store 4x8 sheets of ply wood are not exactly 4x8. are your boards exactly 24x4? does this mean I need one 4x8 sheet to make two boards? thanks
Would love to know the answer to this
Great video man! I recently got into flipping iPhones on eBay and stuff and it’s great money I make $800+ a week!
I just took a look that's awesome and super profitable! Thanks for watching and dropping a comment
Nice job! What do you charge now in 2023 and what’s your cost?
I make cajon drums. I use Baltic birch because it’s the best wood for sound quality on drums which translates into costly. Factor in hardware and knowhow then your looking at minimum $125 for the bigger drum. Now walk into any music store and you’ll find they sale for less all the time and being a small independent drum maker I can’t compete with the big name drum makers. I love making drums and I love drumming so it’s a difficult choice I’m faced with. Cornhole boards seem the logical switch for me so I’ll give it a try. All my tools are Harbor Freight and I don’t use a table saw at all. My cuts are occasionally straying but that’s why God made sandpaper 😳. Everything I know about woodwork came from many hours of TH-cam videos and books. I’ve found that wasting a $37 piece of wood is a great deterrent to being lazy and sloppy so scrap wood has become a no no to me. Also, you teach good habits so thank you for that.
How do you market yourself? I made a similar set about 10 years ago with custom graphics and I’d like to parlay my skills into a business. I’m already a freelance artist/designer but business has been tough since Covid.
You forgot the price of the pocket screws glue which I didn’t see you use. And I believe they’re worth more.
How do u get 2 sets of boards out of 1 sheet of plywood and still end up with the boards being 2x4? You lose 1/16 with every saw cut right? Measurements dont add up, or am I missing something?
Seems like your pricing is based on the big box stores HD or Lowe’s. One suggestion is to look at a building supply house or lumber yard near you.
Dennis Pope ya all these prices are based off HD or Lowe’s suppliers. I could looks for cheaper Ply at lumber yards like you were saying. Thanks for watching!
Melrose Design Company I’ll second what he said. I buy most my pine based stuff for small projects at big box stores, but for larger stuff or hardwood, I go to a local lumber yard. In example, Lowe’s by my house has red oak for double the price of the lumber yard. The lumber yards hard maple is almost the same price as Lowe’s select pine. That’s a HUGE difference.
@@JeremyB8419 Great call on that! If i do a hardwood project I'm 100% going to a lumber yard to get the best pricing. For small projects like this I go to my hardware store right around the corner and pick up exactly what I need, Thanks for the comment!
Agreed. At a lumber supply, you will get better materials for what you are paying in pine. You can then market it as a much higher end product, which it is. Plus you save on the ply.
Good idea.
Mr Zac how are you! I m watching all of your video. Perfect product and superb craftsmanship. But since it takes so much time to produce by hand, why not consider using a CO2 laser machine cutter to improve efficiency
The only comment that I have is that you are not using "Select Pine". Select Pine is clear(free of knots). You are actually using #2 Spruce.
Glad I wasn't the only one this bothered.
I actually did not know that! I can never trust the tag at the hardware store I guess. Thanks for clarifying that!
@@Rufio6814 ,It's probably because I have been a carpenter and cabinet maker for 29 years. Little things like that bother me. It's a lot like when people stain Pine or Basswood with Cherry stain and call it Cherry. It's either being ignorant or dishonest. Either way I don't like it. Btw, I don't think this fellow is either ignorant or dishonest, I think he is a newer woodworker that put his trust in a big box store. No harm, no foul. Btw, he could really cut down on his cost and up his quality by sourcing the lumber and plywood through a hardwood dealer and those carriage bolts, nuts and washer should also be sourced through a fastener supplier. He should have less than $3.00 total for the bolts.
My stores all say select pine and they contain knots. The section of Premium pine is knot free.... :shrug: I guess the lumber companies that source the wood are fucking stupid?
Lol saw this after my post
3:30 “I’m gonna brush this stuff off..” and proceeds to do what every woowdworker on Earth does and use his hand! LOL I love this video.
It is very DIY, and anyone can do it... even if you don't have a bruch lol thanks for watching!
it builds character ;)
We are lucky to get $100 a set here. Glad to see you can make some money with them though!
Where is that at? I've seen boards go for that here. They are usually 2x4 and 1/2" ply with no finish. You could totally make money on that as well.
Excellent small low overhead business. KISS
Like the video very informative just few days ago my son and I made one for the first time doing came out good would like to make some more maybe sell too thanks
Awesome to hear! Love hearing that! That'll be a great bonding experience and who knows maybe a full time business opportunity!
How do you like that pine? I use the same stuff but only for legs. A lot of the stuff they have at HD is warped and pricey now. But do u use anything else now?
Hey i cut my hole 🕳 a little too big. I didn’t have a 6” hole saw at the time and didn’t want to spend the money so I used what I had which was a jig saw. Any tips on how to patch the edges to make the hole smaller? I was thinking some time of screen and wood filler, then I could re-cut to the correct size
Informative video but I am confused by your math. You say at 7:18 that you sell these for $225 which comes out to $450. ?? So, do you sell a set for $225 or is a set $450 and a single board is $225?
How do you typically get your orders? Do you have an Etsy store? Or a website?
Matthew Reitz I usually get all of my orders from Instagram. I tag as much local hashtags as I can think of and that usually drums up some business. Also once you get your portfolio going then people start referring their friends. I typically stray away from etsy and shipping because I don’t trust my board getting there in good shape
Zac Jones I was thinking about making some unique ones for Etsy but once you factor in shipping, forget about it. You’re lucky to have such a market local.
Looks like we are neighbors. I'm here in Portsmouth. I just bought a 8 x 12 shed from Old Hickory buildings and I'm making it a wood shop. I am a welder/fitter by trade, so I hope I can use much of my skills to build some corn hole boards. Thanks for sharing. subbed you. I have a channel, if you are interested in Metal detedting. LOL. take care.
I subbed you as well! Thanks for the comment and good luck with your woodworking! It's always nice to meet local woodworkers!
Great video, cool to see you back with a nice video😁. We don’t use them here in the Netherlands so can’t help you!
Thanks you two! Y'all should start the trend over there! It's actually a really fun time surprisingly lol
Thanks for watching!
Zac great video. Thank you for sharing
Anytime Carl, glad you enjoyed it and hopefully you got something out of it!
are you using a hardwood plywood like birch or maple? wondering why not the $30 sheets of pine ply instead? since you use select pine for the boards anyway just curious
SkinnySkinch I use the 3/4” ply wood usually maple or oak veneer. In my area it costs about $52 for a sheet of ply wood. I try and get the best quality I can find
How did you round the corners? That's a nice touch.
I used a router for the sides. If you don't have a router the pine is actually soft enough for you to round over using an orbital sander, just takes more time and wont be as round.
Now that lumber prices are higher, much higher (3/4" plywood in NY is between $50 - $75 for a 4 x 8 sheet) do you raise your price to cover the cost increase? I'm hoping to get $200 for a set but that honestly doesn't give me much profit.
Yes I always increase my prices if materials increase. I communicate to the customer during the initial solicitation that lumber prices have driven up my prices. If the customer is a fan of your work 9/10 they will pay for it. The woodworker should NEVER absorb the cost of raising materials prices to get a job. That hurts your business and if the customer is unwilling to pay an extra $25-$40 to cover material costs you probably shouldn't be working with them. Thanks for watching!
“This video will not be on how to make the boards”.. proceeds to show how to make the boards...
Brian bonus content!
Nice video and good looking GSP!
Thanks Ben and judging by your profile pic looks like you have a good looking GSP as well! Best dogs in my opinion
seems about right, anywhere from 200-250 in michigan.
What about the bean bags? What if a customer needs those as well. Would you make them?
Why can't you get (4) 2'x4' boards out of a standard sized sheet of plywood? Your cost analysis of one sheet of plywood (looks like birch) at $52 assumes it is good for one corn hole board. I would use poplar for the sides which is inexpensive and is available without knots. Stained and polar will not appear green. Good job! The video appears a bit too dark, at least on my end. Can you do sports teams without having to get a license from them?
Thanks for watching! I could upgrade and do poplar on the sides which I have in the past, a lot stronger than pine that's for sure! The video is really dark, when I was filming I mistakenly underexposed all the shots while shooting LOG and it was very difficult in post brining the highlights up so it turned out dark unfortunately
$10 per decal for a custom decal seems pretty cheap! Is it a sign store that you got the decals from? I'm in NH and am curious what kind of places I should be looking into for that kind of pricing!
what about the bean bags? are they included in your set? sold separately???
What is a cornhole board and what is it used for.
excellent video! Thanks for posting. Quick questions - where do you get the decals? Thanks in advance!
Thanks for watching! I get my decals from a local graphics store here in Virginia Beach called A&E Graphics.
The part I was curious about is your marketing, or customer acquisition method.
That sounds like an excellent future video idea! I get a majority of my orders through referrals and Instagram. I do a lot of boards for businesses in the Virginia Beach area. A lot of the business owners are friends with one another and generally refer me to other business/ people.
Zac Jones what about shipping costs? If an order comes in from MI, then what? Any advice?
What about the bags? Are they included in the price? Do you make the bags or purchase online?
How many coats of poly acrylic do you put? I put three. I like the way you do the sides with pine rather than 2X4’s. Thanks
Thank you for watching! and I usually put a minimum of three coats on. Honestly the more the better. I recommend adding a coat each season to keep the decals in great shape
How do you round the entire corners off like you did?
I price my work for the location I am in. They go for $250 or less in small rural Oklahoma.
What type of 3/4” plywood do you prefer?
When I first heard the term "corn hole" , Well in this day and time. I was somewhat taken aback. When I first heard the term was in about 1949 and it referred to a total different thing, which wasn't used in mixed company.
I just have to get up to the modern language use of phrases. I'm not trying to cause any type of problem, I just had not heard that phrase in quite a while. (I only put this out so you and others may get a little history of the term. I apologize, and don't mean to be ugly to anyone. I was just surprised.
T.M. H. It does sound like a very strange word. I used to call it bean bags. Down south here everyone knows it as corn hole because the bags are filled with dried corn and you toss it into the hole. I can imagine what the term was back in 1949 though 😂 thanks for the comment I wouldn’t have known
@@ZacJones yeah it just like fudge packer!
If you are going to make more than just a few of these, find a different supplier than the big box stores. You will get a better price, certainly on the 1x4, at a lumber yard. Also buy your hardware in bulk and save a lot.
Brian Munroe ive looked into that as well! Probably a higher quality ply wood too! Bulk hardware is super cheap and I’ve actually since bought a huge pack of like 100 carriage bolts and accessories to bring that cost down!
so my ? Is what about the bean bags there’s got to be a cost for those you didn’t mention those?
Do you use Blonde Wood or Birch for the tops ?
What’s the best way to round the edges?
You can get a machine to make the decals yourself for a couple hundred dollars instead of having to spend $10 each time. If you make $181 in profit, you just need to do that twice, then invest it into a decal cutter and then your profit margin increases by $10. You can use it for years across lots of different types of projects.
chaseoes Thats a good call actually! Does it print color as well and what is the size limit?
Do you use the blue kote kreg screws? For outdoor use?
Great video I just started my own biusness with woodworking and this helped a lot for the pricing!
Congrats man! That's awesome taking that step! I feel like the hardest part about woodworking as a profession is pricing competitively. Best of luck!
So what is a cornhole board and what would you use it for.
havin' a good ol' time at the bbq!
@@silvermediastudio So what are you grilling .
@@vroom843 shrimp, elk steaks, and fall squash. bring cold beer!
Are you missing the price for bean bags? Or are the clients purchasing those themselves?
I don’t include the price for bags, I tell the customer up front that the bags are separate. Thanks for watching!
Wondering how you got 4 pieces out of a sheet of plywood that are 24x48 knowing saw blade kerf will undersize it. 🤔
I should have called it 23 15/16" x 47 15/16" haha. Cornhole isn't an exact science! Thanks for watching Dan!
did you spend $52 per 2x4 sheet? if so you should be able to get an 8 footer for that same price and make 4 tops..
I spent $52 for a sheet of ply wood. I had the store rip them down to 2’x4’
Thank for the insight. 👍
Thank you for watching! I really appreciate it
How many sheet of plywood did you use for your miter saw station
What about shipping costs? Please help me understand that aspect of it! If your business blows up and say I want one in MI, then what? Would love to hear your thoughts. Thanks
Hey Will, havent figured the logistics of shipping just yet. Currently there is a lot of business for them where I live in Virginia Beach so I haven't really thought about extending any further. I have gotten info on shipping costs and they vary substantially. There are programs out there where you can pay a monthly fee and ship pretty cheaply, the boxes do cost some good money. For now me and my business will stick with local, too much risk in shipping right now.
Hey Zac, how’s it going? I’ve recently gotten into carpentry and cornhole boards are pretty popular in my area. I just finished my 1st of boards as a Christmas gift. I’ve had people request some but don’t know what to charge. Most of the wraps/decals are from eBay/Etsy. Thank you!
Abel that is great to here people are wanting your cornhole boards! So I started off selling my cornhole boards for $150 a set. They started flying out the door and I couldn't keep up so I took my price up to $225 a set, I found that price to be fairly competitive. Some people who DM me say they actually charge more in their area. Do a few boards and build a portfolio up. Once you have that you can easily raise your price. Be aware though I shot this video prior to the pandemic so lumber prices have inflated a bit so be sure to check that out. Good luck and let me know how it goes for you!
@@ZacJones thank you! Yeah I’ve taken account about the rise in pricing. I just posted a video of my boards on my channel but TH-cam screws up the picture quality lol. It’s also on my tiktok if you want to take a better look. Thanks for the advice!
What are they? I know they are cornhole boards, what are they for?
They are a game that is played in the US, sometimes called bean bags. You get 1 point for getting the bag on the board and 3 points if you get it in the hole. First to 21 wins. Thanks for watching and sorry for the lack of explanation on what they are.
Greetings from Southwestern VA! I find that the $225 price point is a little tough to hit here even in the college town of Virginia Tech. you said four hours to make two sets of boards? Does that include painting time and so forth? You've gotten very efficient at them!
AC Nailed It yes it does! I only do a quick stripe around them which takes no time at all (doesn’t include dry time) love the Blacksburg are! Especially in the fall!
A real Cornholer !!! 😁🖒💪