Hey Corey, I usually don't comment on vids, but I wanted to let you know that due in part to your inspiration I've just gotten hired as an arborist trainee with a solid tree company and can't wait for the HR paperwork to get sorted and the work to begin. I'm switching careers from wildlife biology/parks service work and haven't felt this excited to start a job in some time. It might not be your intention when you make these videos, but thanks for the part you played in my own life, Human!
Don't let em make you wait forever, took a 1 week course in climbing, tree felling,trimming, removal, started my own business immediatly. Been climbing 30 yrs now. Go for it. Went from working on Mercedes Benz, to arborist/ lumberjack.
@@treeguyable No kidding you went from Mercedes Benz to tree work. I'm in the same boat right now, recently applied to a large tree company after six years with Mercedes. Small world.
Your truly unbiased and blatantly honest saw reviews are awesome. Too many guys are brand loyal (some paid to be some just stubborn) and it's hard to get a straight up review. I see you tested an old echo 300t, and this both stock and opened up. And you tested a 540t husky. I'll agree that the 300t is a choked up turd. Dead reliable, and will run for decades, but that's where their endearing qualities end. My buddy has an echo 330t that I've ran both stock and muffler modded and I must say it impressed me, knowing what it is. I'd love to see you review the echo 355t. It's supposedly quite a bit hotter than the 330t, and they are a damn good price point saw. Forums seem to say they run right with a 200t/201t once the muffler is opened up on them, but they actually seem to run admirably stock supposedly. I'd love your input.
Just thought I'd add a helpful tip for your dewalt tools. They make an adapter to used the new 20v lithium batteries on the old 18v tools. I have 2 of the adapters, they work great.
Nice job. It is a great little saw. I did mine the same way. Most of the vids you see on here they use a dremel, but I just used a step-bit just like you did here.
Hey Corey I know you don't know me but wanted to tell you I have watched probably every tree cutting video you've ever posted LOL . I am a general contractor and a mechanical engineer. I took a couple trees down recently but the tree I took down today I was able to fall in a position to drop it on a beer can. Only education I truly have in tree cutting is small experience and then watching your videos. I have learned a great deal from you and wanted to say thank you. Have a couple other big trees that are going to come down on my property in the next week or two and I'm going to try to record a video of falling them. Just want to say thanks for what you do.
amazing how drilling a hole in a muffler opens up a 2 strokes powerband. LOL sweet! my 026 has a muffler mod, 026 pro carb and filter conversion, full skip oregon round chisel 3/8 chain on a 20” bar and it rips thru wood like butter.
@@mikeqendro9601 that's awesome, I just retired the xl 12, and the super ez. Wonderful saws that my grandfather gave me. Drained all fluids and put them away! Glad to see other people have used some homies
You have the best taste in music of any of my often watched channels. It's like Steve"s small engine saloon but Human's chainsaw concert hall. I for one, would actually like to hear you speak of your music of choice, you voider of warranties!
lol, I fix them myself anyway, warranty or no! =) I don't hate on any music, but my choice is usually based on what emotions I'm feeling at that moment.
remove red limiter caps and trim the stops off edge of limit caps so they can be turned and reinstall caps. looks stock but can be tuned and secures L/H from turning easily.
You will probably need something to deflect exhaust gases away from the side cover, I would expect the side cover to get melted pretty quick otherwise. I opened up the deflector a bit on one of mine and it started melting the side cover, so changed it back. Great saws though.
Also, you don't need to disassemble it nearly that much to access the muffler. Just remove the bar and the plastic that covers it, then the two screws under there that hold the plastic muffler cover, pop it off and you're there.
Don't know where you got that tank housing from, but I would have sold it to you for 132.99 plus shipping. That is my suggested retail for the part from Stihl.
hey man I really appreciate your videos, you have taught me a lot and kept me safe as I got into tree climbing so thank you! my question is, I started my little side tree removal business with an ms 261 with a 20" bar then I got a used 180 for cheap (future ground guy limbing saw) to use climbing until I proved to myself I had earned the 201t. so now I have all three and the biggest removal I have done is a couple 36" trees. I want your opinion as to what saw you would get as your big saw if you were only going to get one more saw, what size would you get. I live in Virginia, and I have come a cross a couple potential jobs in the future with huge trunks but honestly I don't think it would be that often that I would be using a big saw.
Sux it has some scoring i pulled the limiters the day i bought mine and fattened it up ...no mods yet .. I was greasing the air filter as i noticed fines after first use.... I made a gasket to go around the carb plate out of foam and its made a huge difference... plus the debri shield for palms.....you may have been pulling fines on that first ten tanks and thats why its got some scoring.....guess i need to check mine... what loctite was that just normal or high temp? thanks for the videos Cory ...I enjoy watching them .
I fatten all my echo saws up soon as i buy them....Rich as i can get away with tuned in wood for break in....so far so good.... keep us posted again thanks for the Videos....
What chain did you start running on this saw? I find the factory spec chain to be too aggressive. Very interested to know what chain you swapped to, and where you got your chains from. Thanks!
Glad to see this one, as I think I'm going to get that saw soon, and will do the same things to it (will remember to make the hole a bit lower though ;) Have heard good things about these saws..and it seems like the longer guys use them, although as you said that's probably getting decent chains and them setup right.
I have that saw & really like it ... break it in easy first.I'm old (retired) so I doubt I will mod this saw (gets used less than I would like.But I taped an inch & a half piece of foam pipe wrap on the back of the handle & now my hand doesn't slide away from the trigger ... kept buggin the crap outta me ... the only good tree is a stump
You can get a 18 to 20 volt adapter for the dewalt. I have one for the 1/2 impact. But the 20 volt line up.... it's nice...... The 1/4 impact is actually my favorite and easy to underestimate.
Hey Cory I know you are busy and may not get back to me but I was wondering where you ended up leaving your carb set on the little guy, I just bought one and pulled the limiters but I haven't found any solid numbers to compare to on carb settings. I understand there is a ton of factors that go in to tuning just looking to compare some numbers thanks bud
I’m not gonna even pretend to know what a modification does for the saw. Maybe some nice human will explain it to me. It is such a cute little saw with good cutting power! Note: my hubby took down three trees today, I had on my list to take down. Well long story short, it didn’t go well and he landed two of them on my young pine trees in the memorial grove garden. So I gave some banged up baby pines... kinda bummed. But he was only trying to help me. 👍🏼❤️
Sorry for your pines =( Opening up the muffler reduces back pressure and allows more air to pulled into the cylinder, along with more fuel, means more power =)
Jesus IsGod By modifying the muffler, he’s allowing more air to pass through the engine (at the cost of increased sound) and thereby increasing the amount of power the saw can output. From the factory most saws these days are weaker than they should be as air can’t escape the restrictive mufflers fast enough, but companies want their saws under certain decibel ratings if possible. It’s a trade off. Just remember what you need for any fire; fuel and air. The more air you can push through the more fuel you can push through, which is why on vehicles you have things like turbo’s and super chargers. (Boost via increased air pressure) There are other modifications that can be done on these saws, like a timing advance (getting your spark at the opportune time) and aftermarket bore kits etc, but that’s all a topic for another video. Hope this helps
@@seth364 how does the mod compare to adjusting the high screw on the carb? I just got a couple old chainsaws and want to adjust them to their peak performance, and maybe do a similar muffler mod, but probably not
So a bigger muffler opening equals more power, without opening up the exhaust port at all or also increasing the intake port diameter? I've heard some people say that 2 stroke engines make more power with a more restrictive exhaust but I dont know how true that is. Might do this to my echo string trimmer lol.
Is this the saw that you lost? If not how's it holding up? I have a 303t and I can't afford another top handle saw. I do have some drill bits though. And that saw could use some more power.
That's one thing about that saw is the muffler is on side, and when you cut a trees level with the ground. The saw is chocking, because of the muffler is.
Nice work. I love how meticulous you are about everything. They make battery conversions to switch over to lithium batteries to save you some money. The new stuff is a lot lighter though.
Hi Cory I saw this video along time ago and I was wondering 1) Do you still use this saw? 2) What length bar is on it and the chain .375lp 50ga. ? I am just doing tree work part time and need a top handle saw. I would love a 200t but I can't afford it so I bought the Chinese clone. Put a new top end on it a Stihl handle and carb. and it still won't run. It acts like it running out of gas. I also have a 192t that I bought off of e-bay that saw will not stay running or idle. I have worked on many saws and the top handle saws are a bitch!! I would like your input I will probably not be making money on most of the work I do. Between buying those 2 saws I could have bought a new 201t!!!!
@@jeremywhitt3108 drilling a hole in the muffler lets more air flow through the saw and prevents it from over heating on long hot jobs ivce done it to evreyone of my 3 saws
Sooo.... I'm ordering one of these. I can see the muffler mod is pretty simple. And I can see I should seal the filter better as soon as I pull it out of the box. Not sure what you were doing with the carb, but I'll watch it again and see... I noticed the stock chain on my CS-620PW is crap too. What would you recommend for the CS-2511T?
This is an older video so not sure if you'll see this. Just wondering what you think of your 2511t after the muffler mod. Really considering buying one but August's video is what got me interested and I know his is nodded to the max. Feel like stock form is half power of what he has at best.
I love mine, even just some simple diy mods really made the saw open up. Don't see me using it much lately as I haven't really been doing much pruning at all.
Just wondering if this little saw is not for once in a while DIY 'ers than the Pro's like your self using it for the daily user??????? Well you will find out before we do as it is yours, hope your mods work great and it runs like a charm.... good luck with it!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dude, mad respect for how clean you keep your shop!! Also, I know squat about small engines. What’s with the mods? What is the science behind it and how does it work?
Could you point me in the right direction I'm looking into purchasing a new chain saw, the stihl Ms 391 or the Husqvarna 460 both with a 20" bar and they both are 64.1 cc. I'm having a new fireplace insert installed and will be cutting wood for next winter.
Hi and Thanks for this vidéo I have a question What do you put on the air filter enter him and the carburator? I suppose something to have better tightness. I have a 2511 and the air filter isn't very adjust with the carb hole Can you said me What dough you use? Thanks a lot A french fan 😉
Have you ever had a tree flagpole ie fall off the stump only to remain in a vertical position I did a few years back and had no choice but to basically walk it down in 5ft sections it took 3 hrs with a ms029 with 24" bar and a spitting mual to get it down
I've heard removing the CAT from the muffler helps open echos up really well. I have the 590 and 2511t, but scared to drill out the CAT in fear of fucking it. You think a simple hole is even worth it if the CAT is still in there?
Sucks about the air filter. I tell you whats BS to. In 2017 I bought a brand new Husqvarna 390XP. Ran a couple tanks through it, had the saw on the bench cleaning it up. Pulled filter and noticed a trace amount of dust in the throat of the carb. I was like WTF???!!!! Well Husky decided to have a plastic filter mount against a plastic filter base, no rubber or anything to create an air tight seal. So my fix is I keep a film of grease between the two. No other issues with dirt getting in but to think Husky did that on a $1,200 saw chaps my ass and what if I wouldnt have noticed it until 10 tanks in?? Could have scratches on my piston and cylinder. I have since then did a muffler mod and piston and cylinder looked perfect so I caught it in time but still. I love Husky but they dropped the ball there.
At 3.29 you did something with the screws. I'm not clear what you did or why you did it so I can't really do that until I've some idea what's goin on. Can someone help me? 3/8 of a turn? Clockwise or anti? 3/8 on both of them? Do you have to adjust the settings on high and low on the easy one to access outside?
we got a clone of that saw for about a year now great little saw, starts easy and it's a real workhorse we hardly even use "normal" chainsaws now, you know, the ones with the rear handle except for the larger stuff it's really fun too. it's light, easy to manipulate and very safe to handle in my oppinion, that makes my wonder, why aren't these more common? I'm really thinking of getting me a second one just for shits and giggles, maybe mod one of them a little
have you considered a Lithium-ion saw for use up in the tree so you don't have to keep pull-starting up there? Not sure if the weight would be one-hand manageable though.
@@Human1337 I've got the Kobalt 80v trimmer and it certainly competes with the gas consumer grade tools. The chainsaw is my next tool In the family to get. Can't do any fun muffler mods on electric though.
Big fan love the videos, i got me a 2511 also and live in stl so was wondering if you would be able to help me out muffler modding mine and tuning it would definitely pay!
I think so. Mine ran poorly out of the box. Very cold blooded. It needed full choke for like 5 minutes and it would still die as soon as you touched the gas. Yes, the low speed was full rich against the limiter. Also, the powerband was very narrow. Throttle response also sucked. Quick throttle changes produced a bog. Way, way too lean. I ran it for 3 min. Then pulled the limiters, muffler screen and opened up the muffler maybe 20% more. Idk if this saw has a cat. If so, it's still in there. After opening the mixture screws almost a full turn each, it's a new saw. Immediate power off idle. I'm blown away. It cuts like a 40cc. Also, run a air cooled 2 cycle oil at 30:1. Not 50:1.
It does require some back pressure but it will still have plenty of back pressure with that hole in it and will be able to generate more power with the higher flow exhaust and the carburetor tune to increase the fuel consumption. Overall this mod increases power, reduces fuel efficiency and increases exhaust emissions. The EPA has pretty strict standards that must be met for small engines so manufacturers engineer their saws and other products to meet emissions standards instead of for maximum performance. This is a pretty easy work around to help get the most power out of your equipment. Porting the exhaust along with this mod will really take a saws performance to a whole new level.
The Internets I don’t think 2 stroke engine require any back pressure actually the reason a engine requires back pressure is to keep from scorching a valve/ valve seat. So I’m almost sure you don’t need any back pressure on this engine. Little further info, if your running a hot engine trying to get a lot of power out of it you try to cut down on back pressure therefore leading to fire blowing by the valves at that point what do you do? Because all dragsters blow fire out the exhaust right? This must mean almost or zero back pressure right? You have to run a stainless steel valve or a inconel type that will resist the heat better.
You're comparing apples and oranges here. I'm not a small engine mechanic but from everything I've read and personal experience an exhaust port and muffler mod will increase power and decrease back pressure. That decrease in back pressure is then compensated for by increasing the fuel in the carburetor. If someone else can do a better job explaining this please feel free. Like I said, small engines aren't my day job.
@@theinternets7516 Shouldn't make a difference. Backpressure can be helpful but only when the pressure wave coming back is timed correctly, if it's constant pressure it's killing power
Rogers’ Lawn Care small two strokes like this don't need any backpressure, but larger two strokes with tuned pipes or expansion chambers need to have carefully calculated sizes to properly achieve the sonic supercharging they get when they are "on the pipe". Basically you want to control the exhaust gas density and by extension the temperature with back pressure to correctly calculate the speed of the sonic wave, and derived from that you calculate the sizes of the expansion chamber. Too small of an outlet will be way too hot and you will melt pistons, but too big and the exhaust gases will cool too fast to be able to get the sound wave back to the exhaust port in time to cram the air fuel charge back into the combustion chamber.
Don't get new batteries, take em to interstate battery or something like that and they'll either replace the cells or you can buy new refurbished ones for cheap from them
worn bar heel , chain too long... you want 6 drive links hanging off of heel of bar, worn drive sprocket, damaged drive links, damaged bar rail, pitch of drive sprocket, chain and bar don't all match, cutting brush without knowing what you are doing, pinched bar, unclean bar groove, bar and chain not the same gauge or worn out clutch drum could all cause chain to come off of bar.
Human If it shares the same crankshaft size as a cs-355t try an Oregon 544679X for a 9 tooth rim or an Oregon 544675X for an 8 tooth spur. If its different crankshaft size then these are a no go.
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Hey Corey, I usually don't comment on vids, but I wanted to let you know that due in part to your inspiration I've just gotten hired as an arborist trainee with a solid tree company and can't wait for the HR paperwork to get sorted and the work to begin. I'm switching careers from wildlife biology/parks service work and haven't felt this excited to start a job in some time. It might not be your intention when you make these videos, but thanks for the part you played in my own life, Human!
Don't let em make you wait forever, took a 1 week course in climbing, tree felling,trimming, removal, started my own business immediatly. Been climbing 30 yrs now. Go for it. Went from working on Mercedes Benz, to arborist/ lumberjack.
@@treeguyable No kidding you went from Mercedes Benz to tree work. I'm in the same boat right now, recently applied to a large tree company after six years with Mercedes. Small world.
Run before it is to late. Tree work is no place for a respectable person lol. Who you with? Residential or line clearance?
I like to see a man respect ( clean ) tools as munch as I do. Proper maintenance is priceless.
I like the way, that the cordless is not used to torque down the screws. Nothing beats the feel in the hand of an expert. Have a good one!
He reminds me of me.
take care of your tools
and they'll take care of you!
I love how insanely clean and organized your garage is! Love the videos, keep them coming :).
My garage looks like Scotty Kilmer's dangit
Cory the Destroyer of Factory Mufflers. 🛠🕳👷🏼♂️
No, just "modified". Wink-wink.
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Every climber seems to be loving their Echos!
moaski love my 355t
Your truly unbiased and blatantly honest saw reviews are awesome. Too many guys are brand loyal (some paid to be some just stubborn) and it's hard to get a straight up review.
I see you tested an old echo 300t, and this both stock and opened up. And you tested a 540t husky. I'll agree that the 300t is a choked up turd. Dead reliable, and will run for decades, but that's where their endearing qualities end. My buddy has an echo 330t that I've ran both stock and muffler modded and I must say it impressed me, knowing what it is.
I'd love to see you review the echo 355t. It's supposedly quite a bit hotter than the 330t, and they are a damn good price point saw. Forums seem to say they run right with a 200t/201t once the muffler is opened up on them, but they actually seem to run admirably stock supposedly. I'd love your input.
Love the way he starts the saw pulls it so fast i thought it was gonna brake
Dude, I've seen allot of people modify and up grade stuff but you just took it to another level. Props bro, keep up the good work and stay safe!
Just thought I'd add a helpful tip for your dewalt tools. They make an adapter to used the new 20v lithium batteries on the old 18v tools. I have 2 of the adapters, they work great.
Please post link to the adapter
www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200661497_200661497?cm_mmc=Google-pla&Google_PLA&Power%20Tools%20%3E%20Power%20Tool%20Batteries%20%2B%20Chargers&DEWALT&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI-MK90Yqu3QIVCMZkCh2MpQe9EAQYBCABEgK68fD_BwE
Could also buy Nimh batteries for a fraction of the cost of those 20v. I bought 4 and a charger for my DeWalt set for 100$.
@@deafcommplays7676 And have a half dead drill every time you reach for it. Nimh and nicad batteries are garbage compared to lithium.
@@lunchboxproductions1183, I think you forget that Nimh batteries dont have memory like Nicad
It's a beast for such a tiny saw!!
Nice job. It is a great little saw. I did mine the same way. Most of the vids you see on here they use a dremel, but I just used a step-bit just like you did here.
Hey Corey I know you don't know me but wanted to tell you I have watched probably every tree cutting video you've ever posted LOL . I am a general contractor and a mechanical engineer. I took a couple trees down recently but the tree I took down today I was able to fall in a position to drop it on a beer can. Only education I truly have in tree cutting is small experience and then watching your videos. I have learned a great deal from you and wanted to say thank you. Have a couple other big trees that are going to come down on my property in the next week or two and I'm going to try to record a video of falling them. Just want to say thanks for what you do.
Make sure and let me know how to see your videos! Enjoy the felling =)
amazing how drilling a hole in a muffler opens up a 2 strokes powerband. LOL sweet! my 026 has a muffler mod, 026 pro carb and filter conversion, full skip oregon round chisel 3/8 chain on a 20”
bar and it rips thru wood like butter.
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Nice! 3:54 What does the white grease on the air filter do? Keep it from melting to the carb?
@@MegaLostOne Ahhhh, makes sense! I know zero about chainsaws, thank you for helping me understand! 👍
Nice, will have to try the oring trick
I got the 271 and it rips!! Definitely love how light they are
Yeah I bought a 271T to replace my now retied Homelite xl.
@@mikeqendro9601 hahaha that's funny, same here
I was raised on Homelite. Still have my dad's 1970 C72 beast and we got the XL about ten years later.
@@mikeqendro9601 that's awesome, I just retired the xl 12, and the super ez. Wonderful saws that my grandfather gave me. Drained all fluids and put them away! Glad to see other people have used some homies
You have the best taste in music of any of my often watched channels. It's like Steve"s small engine saloon but Human's chainsaw concert hall. I for one, would actually like to hear you speak of your music of choice, you voider of warranties!
lol, I fix them myself anyway, warranty or no! =) I don't hate on any music, but my choice is usually based on what emotions I'm feeling at that moment.
remove red limiter caps and trim the stops off edge of limit caps so they can be turned and reinstall caps. looks stock but can be tuned and secures L/H from turning easily.
You will probably need something to deflect exhaust gases away from the side cover, I would expect the side cover to get melted pretty quick otherwise. I opened up the deflector a bit on one of mine and it started melting the side cover, so changed it back. Great saws though.
Also, you don't need to disassemble it nearly that much to access the muffler.
Just remove the bar and the plastic that covers it,
then the two screws under there that hold the plastic muffler cover, pop it off and you're there.
waiting on a $200 fuel tank for our 201T, should have it back going in the next few days. The Echo sounds badass now!
Don't know where you got that tank housing from, but I would have sold it to you for 132.99 plus shipping. That is my suggested retail for the part from Stihl.
I would love to have a workshop like yours 👌👌 I only have a little shed 😧
hey man I really appreciate your videos, you have taught me a lot and kept me safe as I got into tree climbing so thank you! my question is, I started my little side tree removal business with an ms 261 with a 20" bar then I got a used 180 for cheap (future ground guy limbing saw) to use climbing until I proved to myself I had earned the 201t. so now I have all three and the biggest removal I have done is a couple 36" trees. I want your opinion as to what saw you would get as your big saw if you were only going to get one more saw, what size would you get. I live in Virginia, and I have come a cross a couple potential jobs in the future with huge trunks but honestly I don't think it would be that often that I would be using a big saw.
My favorite is my 461, the 661 is so heavy that I rarely ever use it anymore.
Thank you always look at your videos. And now I just went and pick one up for myself
Sux it has some scoring i pulled the limiters the day i bought mine and fattened it up ...no mods yet .. I was greasing the air filter as i noticed fines after first use.... I made a gasket to go around the carb plate out of foam and its made a huge difference... plus the debri shield for palms.....you may have been pulling fines on that first ten tanks and thats why its got some scoring.....guess i need to check mine... what loctite was that just normal or high temp? thanks for the videos Cory ...I enjoy watching them .
I fatten all my echo saws up soon as i buy them....Rich as i can get away with tuned in wood for break in....so far so good.... keep us posted again thanks for the Videos....
Hight temp. Thanks for the tips, going to make a gasket as well.
Thanks for the cool videos
Thanks Cory, not you got me wanting one of these 2511Ts even though I don't need one. LMAO
Matt K same😂😂😂😂
I bought one after using one. At first I laughed at the sight of the little thing. Then I used it and my mind was quickly changed.
Can you do more of this type of video? I would like to know more about your maintenance practices.
It's about damn time.
What chain did you start running on this saw? I find the factory spec chain to be too aggressive. Very interested to know what chain you swapped to, and where you got your chains from.
Thanks!
I do HVAC , switched over to Milwaukee cordless I love them !
Hey Corey! Do you still have this saw? How did you end up feeling about it after some time with it?
Glad to see this one, as I think I'm going to get that saw soon, and will do the same things to it (will remember to make the hole a bit lower though ;) Have heard good things about these saws..and it seems like the longer guys use them, although as you said that's probably getting decent chains and them setup right.
I have that saw & really like it ... break it in easy first.I'm old (retired) so I doubt I will mod this saw (gets used less than I would like.But I taped an inch & a half piece of foam pipe wrap on the back of the handle & now my hand doesn't slide away from the trigger ... kept buggin the crap outta me ... the only good tree is a stump
Super entretien 👍👍👍et en plus ECHO c'est très bon .
Bonjour, savez-vous à quoi sert le trou qu'il a fait ? C'est dans le silencieux ? Merci !
@@HLC32 bonjour je pense pour decalaminer le pot d'échappement j'ai déjà entendu dire cela. Salutations
@@passionnature5690 merci ! :)
@@passionnature5690
je pense pas
plutôt pour donner plus de puissance à cette mignonne à mon avis
😉
Bjr tu as peut-être raison 🤔
Old man my ass more like tuff man especially after the fall what doesn't kill you makes you stronger brother
What chain did you switch to from the factory? Woodland or loggerchain? Maybe a Stihl? I think the factory Echo chain is an Oregon 91pxl or vxl...
You can get a 18 to 20 volt adapter for the dewalt. I have one for the 1/2 impact. But the 20 volt line up.... it's nice...... The 1/4 impact is actually my favorite and easy to underestimate.
Holy moly , check out the battery on that Dewalt .. yep time for new one bud
Great vid Cory
Could just rebuild the battery.
what adjustment did you make to the carb.... I just bought the chain saw, love it!
did u drll threw 2 layers of muffler or just the first one
Corey, the zen master of the Uni bit! I think its time for me to mod the muffs on my CS271T and 370.
Hey Cory I know you are busy and may not get back to me but I was wondering where you ended up leaving your carb set on the little guy, I just bought one and pulled the limiters but I haven't found any solid numbers to compare to on carb settings. I understand there is a ton of factors that go in to tuning just looking to compare some numbers thanks bud
I’m not gonna even pretend to know what a modification does for the saw. Maybe some nice human will explain it to me. It is such a cute little saw with good cutting power!
Note: my hubby took down three trees today, I had on my list to take down. Well long story short, it didn’t go well and he landed two of them on my young pine trees in the memorial grove garden. So I gave some banged up baby pines... kinda bummed. But he was only trying to help me. 👍🏼❤️
Sorry for your pines =( Opening up the muffler reduces back pressure and allows more air to pulled into the cylinder, along with more fuel, means more power =)
Jesus IsGod By modifying the muffler, he’s allowing more air to pass through the engine (at the cost of increased sound) and thereby increasing the amount of power the saw can output. From the factory most saws these days are weaker than they should be as air can’t escape the restrictive mufflers fast enough, but companies want their saws under certain decibel ratings if possible. It’s a trade off.
Just remember what you need for any fire; fuel and air. The more air you can push through the more fuel you can push through, which is why on vehicles you have things like turbo’s and super chargers. (Boost via increased air pressure)
There are other modifications that can be done on these saws, like a timing advance (getting your spark at the opportune time) and aftermarket bore kits etc, but that’s all a topic for another video.
Hope this helps
seth364 with more power you need better exhaust flow 😳
Thanks, Paul. I did not realize God had an opinion on Echo saws.
@@seth364 how does the mod compare to adjusting the high screw on the carb? I just got a couple old chainsaws and want to adjust them to their peak performance, and maybe do a similar muffler mod, but probably not
RIP to your CS-2511T... 😪. What chain did you end up liking when you swapped them out?
Did you ever mess with the timing? What did you end up doing about a bar and chain? I hear a lot about some guys going to a .043 set up.
So a bigger muffler opening equals more power, without opening up the exhaust port at all or also increasing the intake port diameter? I've heard some people say that 2 stroke engines make more power with a more restrictive exhaust but I dont know how true that is. Might do this to my echo string trimmer lol.
Is this the saw that you lost? If not how's it holding up?
I have a 303t and I can't afford another top handle saw. I do have some drill bits though. And that saw could use some more power.
That's one thing about that saw is the muffler is on side, and when you cut a trees level with the ground. The saw is chocking, because of the muffler is.
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Nice work. I love how meticulous you are about everything. They make battery conversions to switch over to lithium batteries to save you some money. The new stuff is a lot lighter though.
Hi Cory I saw this video along time ago and I was wondering 1) Do you still use this saw? 2) What length bar is on it and the chain .375lp 50ga. ? I am just doing tree work part time and need a top handle saw. I would love a 200t but I can't afford it so I bought the Chinese clone. Put a new top end on it a Stihl handle and carb. and it still won't run. It acts like it running out of gas. I also have a 192t that I bought off of e-bay that saw will not stay running or idle. I have worked on many saws and the top handle saws are a bitch!! I would like your input I will probably not be making money on most of the work I do. Between buying those 2 saws I could have bought a new 201t!!!!
I take it that drilling a hole increases performance by reducing the pressure?
Personally I would never do this to a saw or any small engine. The back pressure created by the muffler is easily to the life of the saw.
@@jeremywhitt3108 drilling a hole in the muffler lets more air flow through the saw and prevents it from over heating on long hot jobs ivce done it to evreyone of my 3 saws
Did you just drive a screw against the end of the arm adjustment and it popped them limiters right out?
Im 42 and my good climbing days are behind me.For some reason I get tired easier now.
Hey human, did the muffler mod make a big difference? Im thinking i may have to do the same to mine... Amazing little saw they are👍
yep
@@Human1337 for the muffler mod you just have to drill a hole that's it?
Take your tool batteries to Batteries plus Bulbs. They rebuild them better than new. You can also buy new cells in bulk and rebuild them yourself.
Sooo.... I'm ordering one of these. I can see the muffler mod is pretty simple. And I can see I should seal the filter better as soon as I pull it out of the box. Not sure what you were doing with the carb, but I'll watch it again and see... I noticed the stock chain on my CS-620PW is crap too. What would you recommend for the CS-2511T?
Okay, I'm assuming you're getting more revs, less pull, and less torque?
This is an older video so not sure if you'll see this. Just wondering what you think of your 2511t after the muffler mod. Really considering buying one but August's video is what got me interested and I know his is nodded to the max. Feel like stock form is half power of what he has at best.
I love mine, even just some simple diy mods really made the saw open up. Don't see me using it much lately as I haven't really been doing much pruning at all.
Thanks for the response bud
Just wondering if this little saw is not for once in a while DIY 'ers than the Pro's like your self using it for the daily user??????? Well you will find out before we do as it is yours, hope your mods work great and it runs like a charm.... good luck with it!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dude, mad respect for how clean you keep your shop!! Also, I know squat about small engines. What’s with the mods? What is the science behind it and how does it work?
Getting more air/fuel into the chamber by getting more exhaust out per revolution
Could you point me in the right direction I'm looking into purchasing a new chain saw, the stihl Ms 391 or the Husqvarna 460 both with a 20" bar and they both are 64.1 cc. I'm having a new fireplace insert installed and will be cutting wood for next winter.
Both are great saws
Love watching you do this shit man! Keep it up!
That little saw rips now..
Hi and Thanks for this vidéo
I have a question
What do you put on the air filter enter him and the carburator?
I suppose something to have better tightness.
I have a 2511 and the air filter isn't very adjust with the carb hole
Can you said me What dough you use?
Thanks a lot
A french fan 😉
Just some lithium grease to seal any air leaks
bonjour tu es français ?
Have you ever had a tree flagpole ie fall off the stump only to remain in a vertical position I did a few years back and had no choice but to basically walk it down in 5ft sections it took 3 hrs with a ms029 with 24" bar and a spitting mual to get it down
Why did you take that red piece out and what is the benefit of doing so? I think it’s the carb restrictor
I've heard removing the CAT from the muffler helps open echos up really well. I have the 590 and 2511t, but scared to drill out the CAT in fear of fucking it. You think a simple hole is even worth it if the CAT is still in there?
got the 590 and 2511t as well. Excellent combo for everything i do on my 5 acres...
that echo is screaming now nice
Sucks about the air filter. I tell you whats BS to. In 2017 I bought a brand new Husqvarna 390XP. Ran a couple tanks through it, had the saw on the bench cleaning it up. Pulled filter and noticed a trace amount of dust in the throat of the carb. I was like WTF???!!!! Well Husky decided to have a plastic filter mount against a plastic filter base, no rubber or anything to create an air tight seal. So my fix is I keep a film of grease between the two. No other issues with dirt getting in but to think Husky did that on a $1,200 saw chaps my ass and what if I wouldnt have noticed it until 10 tanks in?? Could have scratches on my piston and cylinder. I have since then did a muffler mod and piston and cylinder looked perfect so I caught it in time but still. I love Husky but they dropped the ball there.
Oh sorry I didn't watch all the way before I commented above. I see you did the grease deal to on the filter.
At 3.29 you did something with the screws. I'm not clear what you did or why you did it so I can't really do that until I've some idea what's goin on. Can someone help me? 3/8 of a turn? Clockwise or anti? 3/8 on both of them? Do you have to adjust the settings on high and low on the easy one to access outside?
What chain did u run on it to make it better before the mods?
we got a clone of that saw for about a year now
great little saw, starts easy and it's a real workhorse
we hardly even use "normal" chainsaws now, you know, the ones with the rear handle except for the larger stuff
it's really fun too.
it's light, easy to manipulate and very safe to handle in my oppinion, that makes my wonder, why aren't these more common?
I'm really thinking of getting me a second one just for shits and giggles, maybe mod one of them a little
What chain did you end up using?
Why take the muffler off at all? Can't you just drill it in a vice still on the saw or something?
bc you could get metal shavings in the cylinder , not good.
@@John_D2
Thank you
More videos!!! Seen a video on Reddit of the electric power sheers and thought of u lol
was it crazy russian hacker?
Nice you are hearing Chevelle :)
This old Echo saw still hanging in there?
I'd love to see him try the cheapest Harbor Freight chainsaw.
have you considered a Lithium-ion saw for use up in the tree so you don't have to keep pull-starting up there? Not sure if the weight would be one-hand manageable though.
Been thinking about getting one, still not sold on them yet though.
@@Human1337 I've got the Kobalt 80v trimmer and it certainly competes with the gas consumer grade tools. The chainsaw is my next tool In the family to get. Can't do any fun muffler mods on electric though.
Sounds top fuel
where did you get that nice blower for the air compressor?
Any significant performance gain after doing the muffler mod?
Quite a bit actually
Been watching ur vids for a while, has anyone ever asked you about getting a PO box for fanmail
This saw got vtec?
You guys and your advanced timing😂
Have you ever experimented with alternative fuels ?
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Dewalt makes an adaptor to fit the new batteries to the older tools!
Big fan love the videos, i got me a 2511 also and live in stl so was wondering if you would be able to help me out muffler modding mine and tuning it would definitely pay!
I know everyone loves this saw but what am I missing? Is this saw that much better than say the Echo 355t?
I think so. Mine ran poorly out of the box. Very cold blooded. It needed full choke for like 5 minutes and it would still die as soon as you touched the gas. Yes, the low speed was full rich against the limiter. Also, the powerband was very narrow. Throttle response also sucked. Quick throttle changes produced a bog. Way, way too lean. I ran it for 3 min. Then pulled the limiters, muffler screen and opened up the muffler maybe 20% more. Idk if this saw has a cat. If so, it's still in there. After opening the mixture screws almost a full turn each, it's a new saw. Immediate power off idle. I'm blown away. It cuts like a 40cc. Also, run a air cooled 2 cycle oil at 30:1. Not 50:1.
What does advancing the timing do?
How often do you break them chainsaws down and clean them, every time you use them or every few times?
No set schedule, but my personals are broken down every couple uses or so.
What causes the scratches on the Piston? Mine had one tank of gas and there is scratches
So do you run your own tree business? Or work for another business?
Work for another company.
Wait... what? Why did he drill a hole? Doesn't the motor require a bit of resistance in the exhaust?
It does require some back pressure but it will still have plenty of back pressure with that hole in it and will be able to generate more power with the higher flow exhaust and the carburetor tune to increase the fuel consumption. Overall this mod increases power, reduces fuel efficiency and increases exhaust emissions. The EPA has pretty strict standards that must be met for small engines so manufacturers engineer their saws and other products to meet emissions standards instead of for maximum performance. This is a pretty easy work around to help get the most power out of your equipment. Porting the exhaust along with this mod will really take a saws performance to a whole new level.
The Internets I don’t think 2 stroke engine require any back pressure actually the reason a engine requires back pressure is to keep from scorching a valve/ valve seat. So I’m almost sure you don’t need any back pressure on this engine. Little further info, if your running a hot engine trying to get a lot of power out of it you try to cut down on back pressure therefore leading to fire blowing by the valves at that point what do you do? Because all dragsters blow fire out the exhaust right? This must mean almost or zero back pressure right? You have to run a stainless steel valve or a inconel type that will resist the heat better.
You're comparing apples and oranges here. I'm not a small engine mechanic but from everything I've read and personal experience an exhaust port and muffler mod will increase power and decrease back pressure. That decrease in back pressure is then compensated for by increasing the fuel in the carburetor. If someone else can do a better job explaining this please feel free. Like I said, small engines aren't my day job.
@@theinternets7516 Shouldn't make a difference. Backpressure can be helpful but only when the pressure wave coming back is timed correctly, if it's constant pressure it's killing power
Rogers’ Lawn Care small two strokes like this don't need any backpressure, but larger two strokes with tuned pipes or expansion chambers need to have carefully calculated sizes to properly achieve the sonic supercharging they get when they are "on the pipe". Basically you want to control the exhaust gas density and by extension the temperature with back pressure to correctly calculate the speed of the sonic wave, and derived from that you calculate the sizes of the expansion chamber. Too small of an outlet will be way too hot and you will melt pistons, but too big and the exhaust gases will cool too fast to be able to get the sound wave back to the exhaust port in time to cram the air fuel charge back into the combustion chamber.
Don't get new batteries, take em to interstate battery or something like that and they'll either replace the cells or you can buy new refurbished ones for cheap from them
Great video. What was it you did to the carb?
He turned up the high idle on it a 1/3rd turn. Thing sounds awesome now.
What Greg said, have to increase fuel as well or it'll lean seize.
He pulled the EPA locks..or covers, then adjusted the fuel mixture.
Well it's been 9 months do you still like this saw?
absolutely
@@Human1337 I've been thinking a out one. I've got the 355t which I love
Damn I was too slow lol, it’s why I keep the 09t around for lighter work
Hey Human what causes a brand new saw to immediately and constantly throw the chain? It was installed correctly.
Chain way too loose
Check chain tension.
worn bar heel , chain too long... you want 6 drive links hanging off of heel of bar, worn drive sprocket, damaged drive links, damaged bar rail, pitch of drive sprocket, chain and bar don't all match, cutting brush without knowing what you are doing, pinched bar, unclean bar groove, bar and chain not the same gauge or worn out clutch drum could all cause chain to come off of bar.
What chain did you use?
Hey corey, what chain did you decide on for the echo.
Running the stihl 3/8" picco now, bought a 1/4" bar and chain for it, need a drive sprocket now though.
Thanks, that seems to be the popular choice
Thanks
Human If it shares the same crankshaft size as a cs-355t try an Oregon 544679X for a 9 tooth rim or an Oregon 544675X for an 8 tooth spur. If its different crankshaft size then these are a no go.
Baileys has the sproket
good show!!
With a hole in the muffler it sounds more like a dirt bike lol nice