I see Casein in the title, I click. I've never used Casein, but have heard about it, mainly from James Gurney, but I still thought it was super cool to see someone trying them out. Your experience makes me feel like trying them someday. Your painting was absolutely beautiful. Really like it. Thanks for the video. ☺
Thank you! This was super helpful and inspiring. Acquired some of these paints recently and am going to keep on with them after seeing what you’ve done here.
Another great painting, Shana. I was excited when I saw it on Instagram. I've seen Casein paint on the website of one of my favorite art stores and I looked while I was watching your video and saw that it was indeed the same brand you're using in this video. So they indeed be the only brand that makes these. You're the first person I think I've ever seen try these and at some point, I want to try them too now.
You should definitely try them, they are quite an interesting medium!! Yeah, everytime I have searched Casein, this seems to be the only brand that comes up. So I think they may be the only ones. Richeson tends to be a good brand though.
I love Casein. when used thin it works just fine on paper. use it as a base in my sketchbook a lot. another nice thing I have found with it is you can glaze over the top with watercolors and Gouauch. I kinda get the feeling that Watercolor on Casein could have its permanence greatly increased. I t does soak in. and doesn't seem to be as powdery as it is on its own
Thank you! I will definitely be doing that in the future. I want to get some more colors to try, but I will definitely be using these more and will post about then when I do.
I love this one so much! I actually love the casein. The consistency does remind me a lot of gouache because they seem really milky and translucent in some areas 😊👍
Hello, Shana. Thanks for the video on casein. One thing I'm not sure about this paint is that if it could actually cause any sort of harm to our health. I say this because, as I remember, on the package they claim it could be toxic or something. I'm a impressionist painter and I usually paint thick strokes in order to get textures and everything. I was trying to find a proper substitute for oil, since I have some alergies and things like that. I don't like acrylic paint very much and gouache doesn't help with the thick thing. Casein I find to be the closest to oil in terms of textures and how they handle, despite being just as opaque as gouache, yet it still has some smell, you know.
Hey there! Thank you for watching! As far as toxicity goes, when looking at mine, the only warnings I see are on the paints that contain Cadmium. So, I think, like with other paints, it's more about the pigments you are using than the fact that it is Casein. When I google Casein, it says it is a water-soluble, non-toxic paint. So, I think if you avoid things like cadmium and cobalt when you are buying colors, you should be okay. If you do use those colors, just follow proper procedure while using or handling them. But that is the case with every kind of paint. I agree that they can be a good substitute for oils because you don't need to use any solvents with them. I read somewhere when I first bought these that Casein should be used on a solid, non-flexible substrate to prevent cracking, so that is something to keep in mind. Of course, don't just take my word for any of the information I have shared here. Feel free to do your own research and make the decision that is best for you and your working practices!
@@CautionArtistatPlay many thanks for the explanation. So, as I understand, the problem isn't about breathing the paint but rather while handling it, with skin contact and so forth. Here I paint casein over canvas and I usually prepare it first with layers of acrylic gesso in order to flatten surface the most I can. So far just one single painting has crackled, but I'm not sure if it was the paint's fault, I think it was rather the gesso that I may have diluted too much or something like that. Now I was looking if I could mix the paint with some other substance of sorts to make it less opaque somehow, like we do with oils and such. Have you tried experimenting the paint alongside some mix like that?
Hmm.. I haven't seen any information about the absorption on the skin, and there are no warnings for that on the labels on mine. I will have to look into that! Thanks for the heads up! I haven't tried experimenting with them as far as adding any mediums or anything like that. So far, I have just used them as is. Though, I think I read somewhere that they can be used with acrylics, because I was looking to see if I could substitute the white for a white acrylic since I wasn't a fan of the white Casein. I haven't tried it yet. But if it can be used with acrylics, there's a possibility that you may be able to use a transparent acrylic medium to make them less opaque. Again, I haven't tried it, but it may be worth exploring!
@@CautionArtistatPlay I'll have a look into the mix with acrylics. Thanks for the replies. Hope to see more content of casein from you in the future! Kind regards from Brazil!
You're welcome! Thank you for commenting! This conversation makes me want to get my paints out and explore! I will definitely have to do a video with them again soon. Best of luck in your casein adventures! ❤️
Bloody hell, I LOVE the way you layer, blend & glaze. It's a fabulous look. Especially the depth. Casein can be futsy if you're a slow painter like I am because of the drying time. I use the casein emulsion to smooth it a bit, plus water. Also, I'm in HOT, DRY Los Angeles. So glad I found you.
So when the paint dries on the pallette, is it like acrylic where it hardens and you can't re wet it? So is that board like a hard watercolour board or more like canvas used for acrylics and oils? What are the brushes you are using please? Fantastic painting. I actually love the colour of the background. It still makes a very good contrast. But then I'm a big fan of blue black anyway. You have tempted me to try out a few tubes of it to see how I go. I've only used watercolours and guache before so it will be interesting to see the difference. Thanks for sharing and for the information and a really great video. xxxx
Hi Liz, Thanks for the comment! When the paint dries on the palette it is like acrylic where you can't re-wet it and it's a little less pliable than acrylics so doesn't "peel" off the palette as easily as acrylics. It looks similar to a dried up gouache only without the re-wetting properties. The surface of the panel (Encausticbord) I am using is on the smoother side with just a subtle, natural looking texture. So it's more similar to a watercolor panel than it is a canvas panel. The brushes I am using are just some inexpensive synthetic hair brushes I bought from Amazon, I think they are called by Artify. I don't tend to spend a lot on brushes and rarely remember what brand I am using at any given time lol.. The most similar in a brand name would be Simply Simmons brushes. I hope that helps! Thanks for watching! 😊
Hey there! You may want to look into Acryliks by Natural Earth Paint. They are a natural plant based alternative to acrylics. They are supposed to be an eco-friendly and healthier alternative. Here is a video I did about them! You can also find links to more information about them in the description of that video! th-cam.com/video/hGpCQVQwkeg/w-d-xo.html
The Richeson Shiva Caseins have a small amount of added pine oil in their recipe. This is what's causes the smell. (See e.g. books on casein by Quiller - they were really helpful to an amateur painter at least :) ).
I would like to paint an underwater scene on a wooden big board - 2m x 80cm x 2.7cm - and then cover it with some protective transparent as that board it's going to be used as a working table for model building and mantainance - I make rc wooden aircrafts, use glues and handle engines engines that might wste oil or fuel -. I fancy painting a scene that don't cover completely the wood lines and possibly have some phosphorescent colors emerging in the dark. I'd like brilliant colors but I can accept a little dull colors for avoiding reflections when I work on the table - there must be brilliance when I turn the lights off and then the phosporescent colors emerge. I need to preserve the wood and avoid it rises or curve. Do you think this medium is preferrable to acrylics? I've seen it can be self produced making casein with milk and adding pigments: if you add white pigments and then colored pigments you obtain a solid color, if you just add colored pigments you get semitransparent colors.
Honestly, I would do something like enamel or acrylic. Casein tends to be opaque, but with acrylics or enamels, you can get a lot of subtle transparencies and bright bold colors. They are also durable. You may also want to look into coating it with resin for extra protection.
I see Casein in the title, I click. I've never used Casein, but have heard about it, mainly from James Gurney, but I still thought it was super cool to see someone trying them out. Your experience makes me feel like trying them someday. Your painting was absolutely beautiful. Really like it. Thanks for the video. ☺
You should definitely try them!! They are a lot of fun. Sometimes it's just neat to play with different kinds of paint.
This is the best take on trying out Casein I have seen! Thank you!!
Thank you! 💖
Thank you! This was super helpful and inspiring. Acquired some of these paints recently and am going to keep on with them after seeing what you’ve done here.
I'm so glad you found my video to be helpful! I hope you have lots of fun with these paints! Thanks for watching!
Another great painting, Shana. I was excited when I saw it on Instagram. I've seen Casein paint on the website of one of my favorite art stores and I looked while I was watching your video and saw that it was indeed the same brand you're using in this video. So they indeed be the only brand that makes these. You're the first person I think I've ever seen try these and at some point, I want to try them too now.
You should definitely try them, they are quite an interesting medium!! Yeah, everytime I have searched Casein, this seems to be the only brand that comes up. So I think they may be the only ones. Richeson tends to be a good brand though.
I love Casein. when used thin it works just fine on paper. use it as a base in my sketchbook a lot. another nice thing I have found with it is you can glaze over the top with watercolors and Gouauch. I kinda get the feeling that Watercolor on Casein could have its permanence greatly increased. I t does soak in. and doesn't seem to be as powdery as it is on its own
Oh cool, thanks for the tips! I will have to try some of them!!
Wow!! You did an excellent job !! I just ordered some Casein paint to try out. This video was inspiring!!
Thank you! I'm glad I could inspire you!
it came out great! please keep making more videos about casein unfortunately there are not many tutorials about casein on youtube
Thank you! I will definitely be doing that in the future. I want to get some more colors to try, but I will definitely be using these more and will post about then when I do.
Love your work.
I am new with watercolors, I want to paint with this paint.
Love the colors!
Thank you! These were a lot of fun to paint with!
I love this one so much! I actually love the casein. The consistency does remind me a lot of gouache because they seem really milky and translucent in some areas 😊👍
Thank you Amy!! I agree, very similar to gouache! I love these paints so far and can't wait to get more of them!
Great video!! Thank you!!
Thank you for watching!
Thanks for sharing your point of view.
Thank you for watching!
Thank you! So difficult to find here in the UK, but the equivalent would be acrylla-gouache I believe.
Yes, definitely a similar finish to Acryla Gouache!
Hello, Shana. Thanks for the video on casein. One thing I'm not sure about this paint is that if it could actually cause any sort of harm to our health. I say this because, as I remember, on the package they claim it could be toxic or something.
I'm a impressionist painter and I usually paint thick strokes in order to get textures and everything. I was trying to find a proper substitute for oil, since I have some alergies and things like that. I don't like acrylic paint very much and gouache doesn't help with the thick thing. Casein I find to be the closest to oil in terms of textures and how they handle, despite being just as opaque as gouache, yet it still has some smell, you know.
Hey there! Thank you for watching! As far as toxicity goes, when looking at mine, the only warnings I see are on the paints that contain Cadmium. So, I think, like with other paints, it's more about the pigments you are using than the fact that it is Casein. When I google Casein, it says it is a water-soluble, non-toxic paint. So, I think if you avoid things like cadmium and cobalt when you are buying colors, you should be okay. If you do use those colors, just follow proper procedure while using or handling them. But that is the case with every kind of paint.
I agree that they can be a good substitute for oils because you don't need to use any solvents with them. I read somewhere when I first bought these that Casein should be used on a solid, non-flexible substrate to prevent cracking, so that is something to keep in mind. Of course, don't just take my word for any of the information I have shared here. Feel free to do your own research and make the decision that is best for you and your working practices!
@@CautionArtistatPlay many thanks for the explanation. So, as I understand, the problem isn't about breathing the paint but rather while handling it, with skin contact and so forth.
Here I paint casein over canvas and I usually prepare it first with layers of acrylic gesso in order to flatten surface the most I can. So far just one single painting has crackled, but I'm not sure if it was the paint's fault, I think it was rather the gesso that I may have diluted too much or something like that.
Now I was looking if I could mix the paint with some other substance of sorts to make it less opaque somehow, like we do with oils and such. Have you tried experimenting the paint alongside some mix like that?
Hmm.. I haven't seen any information about the absorption on the skin, and there are no warnings for that on the labels on mine. I will have to look into that! Thanks for the heads up!
I haven't tried experimenting with them as far as adding any mediums or anything like that. So far, I have just used them as is. Though, I think I read somewhere that they can be used with acrylics, because I was looking to see if I could substitute the white for a white acrylic since I wasn't a fan of the white Casein. I haven't tried it yet. But if it can be used with acrylics, there's a possibility that you may be able to use a transparent acrylic medium to make them less opaque. Again, I haven't tried it, but it may be worth exploring!
@@CautionArtistatPlay I'll have a look into the mix with acrylics. Thanks for the replies. Hope to see more content of casein from you in the future!
Kind regards from Brazil!
You're welcome! Thank you for commenting! This conversation makes me want to get my paints out and explore! I will definitely have to do a video with them again soon. Best of luck in your casein adventures! ❤️
Would love to see a Gouache vs Casein comparisin once you get the hang of these paints.
That's a fun idea! I was also thinking that I might do a comparison between them and acryl-gouache at some point too!
😅😂 First time she's used them and she's sure got more of a hang of them than I do & I've had them a couple of months. It's wonderful.
Lol thank you!!
Bloody hell, I LOVE the way you layer, blend & glaze. It's a fabulous look. Especially the depth. Casein can be futsy if you're a slow painter like I am because of the drying time. I use the casein emulsion to smooth it a bit, plus water. Also, I'm in HOT, DRY Los Angeles. So glad I found you.
Thank you so much! Glad you found me too! I just finally got more casein paint, so I will need to do another soon!
So when the paint dries on the pallette, is it like acrylic where it hardens and you can't re wet it?
So is that board like a hard watercolour board or more like canvas used for acrylics and oils?
What are the brushes you are using please?
Fantastic painting. I actually love the colour of the background. It still makes a very good contrast. But then I'm a big fan of blue black anyway. You have tempted me to try out a few tubes of it to see how I go. I've only used watercolours and guache before so it will be interesting to see the difference. Thanks for sharing and for the information and a really great video. xxxx
Hi Liz,
Thanks for the comment!
When the paint dries on the palette it is like acrylic where you can't re-wet it and it's a little less pliable than acrylics so doesn't "peel" off the palette as easily as acrylics. It looks similar to a dried up gouache only without the re-wetting properties.
The surface of the panel (Encausticbord) I am using is on the smoother side with just a subtle, natural looking texture. So it's more similar to a watercolor panel than it is a canvas panel.
The brushes I am using are just some inexpensive synthetic hair brushes I bought from Amazon, I think they are called by Artify. I don't tend to spend a lot on brushes and rarely remember what brand I am using at any given time lol.. The most similar in a brand name would be Simply Simmons brushes.
I hope that helps! Thanks for watching! 😊
@@CautionArtistatPlay Thanks for your detailed reply. Much appreciated. You are a very talented artist and no mistake. Loved the painting.
Thank you so much!
I am looking for a type of paint which is odorless and the most environmentaly friendly. I react to most acrylic paints.
Any suggestions?
Hey there! You may want to look into Acryliks by Natural Earth Paint. They are a natural plant based alternative to acrylics. They are supposed to be an eco-friendly and healthier alternative. Here is a video I did about them! You can also find links to more information about them in the description of that video! th-cam.com/video/hGpCQVQwkeg/w-d-xo.html
@@CautionArtistatPlay thanks so.much I will check into it..
@gicir19 You're welcome!
So right, smells like cola, not unpleasant
Yeah, it's a very interesting smell!
Drying a shade lighter is not a con, if you are using it as on underpainting for oil. You want to have the underpainting a shade lighter, anyway.
Hmm, yeah, I hadn't thought of that. I guess it all just comes down to how you plan to use them.
They smell like milk that's a bit off, because the medium it's milk curd.
Yeah, it's funny though because to me it smells like flat diet cola 😂, I kind of like the smell though lol.
The Richeson Shiva Caseins have a small amount of added pine oil in their recipe. This is what's causes the smell. (See e.g. books on casein by Quiller - they were really helpful to an amateur painter at least :) ).
Thank you for the info!
I would like to paint an underwater scene on a wooden big board - 2m x 80cm x 2.7cm - and then cover it with some protective transparent as that board it's going to be used as a working table for model building and mantainance - I make rc wooden aircrafts, use glues and handle engines engines that might wste oil or fuel -. I fancy painting a scene that don't cover completely the wood lines and possibly have some phosphorescent colors emerging in the dark. I'd like brilliant colors but I can accept a little dull colors for avoiding reflections when I work on the table - there must be brilliance when I turn the lights off and then the phosporescent colors emerge. I need to preserve the wood and avoid it rises or curve.
Do you think this medium is preferrable to acrylics? I've seen it can be self produced making casein with milk and adding pigments: if you add white pigments and then colored pigments you obtain a solid color, if you just add colored pigments you get semitransparent colors.
Honestly, I would do something like enamel or acrylic. Casein tends to be opaque, but with acrylics or enamels, you can get a lot of subtle transparencies and bright bold colors. They are also durable. You may also want to look into coating it with resin for extra protection.
@@CautionArtistatPlay thank you very much for answering me. I'll have a look
You are very welcome!