He didn't "threaten civil war", just that expropriation will lead to violent reactions. Well, the threat of expropriation will also lead to economic decline. That's also a fact pointed out and no threat.
Really in the past everyone respected each other but now no respect destroying the things that will further this country this is all what's going on or maybe your just blind to see what is going on around you
NO. The FF Plus did not threaten civil war, he was simply making a statement that should the land be taking without proper process, this action would lead to civil war.
Groenewald didn't threaten 'civil war', he just predicted this, when people will be arbitrarily deprived of their property, which is actually a common law crime, the EFF frequently threatens. The ANC/SACP threatened the same in the past. Which is one of the many reasons, they were treated as criminals by the government. So please stop twisting the facts.
Oh my fat little friend in red, when judgment day comes you'll be the first to cower in the corner in fear of the wrath set upon you by the people you so underestimate. You just keep on pushing us.
@@sandilesick A threat is when someone says "I will harm you". Saying "there will be retaliation if you harm me or steal from me" is not a threat, its a warning.
These nitwits will always jump on any chance to interrupt you with a stupid comeback. They will boo like children in parliament, but don't have something constructive to say. They only want this, want that, but never move a finger to deserve it. They get masses behind them to put fear in others to get their way. When they get rich they retire and leave their supporters in the dark.
Yes south African media can be very biased at times . Remember the attempted insurection that failed in July 2021. When people were defending their homes and businesses from the looters the media called it "the phoenix massacre" how can 1% of the population massacre against 90%. It's just too Dom to comprehend
Kgohlelelo Themba bra, I'm white okay, not racists, have black friends, etc... can we not as a nation just get along for the countries sake so we don't damage both of our futures and country... instead of resulting to violence as an answer.
The Freedom front should take over government i think. Mr FW De Klerk caused this uprise of the black nation and South Aftica is in total loss nowadays, and so the Freedom Front should fix this unresolved issue and bring back a normal life to South Aftica. Enough is enough.
Remember most of the technology you use today came form us whites not you without us you all would still have been living in the bush fighting over one another for land we brought civilized towns and cities and work places for everyone blacks, coloureds, foreigners and whites
You are not reversing the land act. You want to take africa back to what you are feeling comfortable with. Dark africa which you were before Jan Van Riebeeck tried to uplift you. He made a huge mistake and today we are reaping the benefits. If he followed the path the US and Aus took we would have piece and prosperity and not sir with the burden of trying to save a continent who does not have the need to live in the first world. Thats off-course not including the leaders who love to dress up and live the first world life style.
so what about the farms they plan on taking that have been in family generations since the 1800's? my higher grade maths wont fail me on this i can guarantee that 1949 came after 1800
Let me put it to you frankly - ifyou don't take the land by force your are not living in a dream. If you don't want civil war then don't do do hahahahahahah
"It's not difficult in South Africa for the ordinary person to see the link between capitalism and racist exploitation, and when one sees the link one immediately thinks in terms of a socialist alternative." - Joe Slovo
A population in the minority thinks it will survive a civil War. The problem is we never showed them the passion of the black child. Black South Africans United 🔥
The wealth is in the hands of corrupt government officials and the Guptas in Dubai. With all the stolen money the could have bought out all the commercial farmland available twice.
They have the land because they have the skills to create prosperity. Those without land does not and will never have the ability. They are consumers who have no long term planning ability. Short term satisfaction is the aim and that does not allow you to create a farm that can produce. Thats how SA became a shithole within 25 years of inheriting world class institutions like eskom. The destruction surprises even the most critical observers.
South Africans are very lucky to have a calm, cool headed and humble Zuma as the current leader. If it wasnt for him, SA would have already been in war. JZ is like a stable and solid punching bag in the middle, for the far left and far right to vent their anger and hatred. If he goes down before elections, we might have a serious power disaster. Both from in and outside the ANC.
I think you are indeed. I read about a contract the Guptas signed with a UK PR firm in the European Press. They set up fake Twitter, Facebook and TH-cam accounts that shill for Zuma and help spread racial discourse in SA online. The Saudis did the same thing back in 2001 with AOL Chat rooms online right after 9/11/2001. They had a PR problem... What makes me so suspicious of you is that your English grammar and spelling is impeccable. We all know how awful SA schools have become.
It is fascinating indeed how Me Van der Dude, regularly and consistently defends the corrupt and indefensible. I have in the past accused him of being on Bell Pottinger's payroll. He regularly defends: Hlaudi, Zuma, Ngubane, Molefe and even Ntlemeza. To give you some more insight into his character, here is a recent Me Van der Dude comment directed at Mmusi Maimane around the Zambia issue: "The same South African Government you are DEFECATING on every single day must now run to your rescue? I wish the goverment responds in the same words u use against them "FUTSEK MAIMANE"!!!!!!!"
Dr LoL, I think you are correct. Dude is a Bell Pottiinger shill, along with Hanz Franz. These two constantly fan the flames of racial disharmony with polemics all the time. No intelligent person with common sense would so fervently defend a criminal like Zuma, unless they were being paid to do it. The only thing Zuma runs to is breakfast, lunch and dinner!
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He didn't "threaten civil war", just that expropriation will lead to violent reactions. Well, the threat of expropriation will also lead to economic decline. That's also a fact pointed out and no threat.
You gonna say that because you are white, listen hear we are not our forefathers nizonya straight
Really in the past everyone respected each other but now no respect destroying the things that will further this country this is all what's going on or maybe your just blind to see what is going on around you
Why didnt we grab the land in the passed.we had to buy it not grab it.
Save the Boers!
Send them back to Europe
@@ad72644 But they don´t tell us that all the people come from Africa? Why so xenophobic?
In 2024 and South Africa is still dealing with Apartheid 🤔🤔
NO. The FF Plus did not threaten civil war, he was simply making a statement that should the land be taking without proper process, this action would lead to civil war.
Nigel Soden He should learn to communicate.
Perhabs, certain people should learn to interpret what someone says.
Josphat Njenga he did comunicate,but its hard for idiots with low iq to understand.Parlement is full of low iq idiots.
We are wondering with my friend where you are from bro? Nigel Soden
Josphat Njenga you idiot
Groenewald didn't threaten 'civil war', he just predicted this, when people will be arbitrarily deprived of their property, which is actually a common law crime, the EFF frequently threatens. The ANC/SACP threatened the same in the past. Which is one of the many reasons, they were treated as criminals by the government. So please stop twisting the facts.
Go VF+!!!
South Africa should never be still dealing with this problem today Play stupid games gain stupid prizes
Oh my fat little friend in red, when judgment day comes you'll be the first to cower in the corner in fear of the wrath set upon you by the people you so underestimate. You just keep on pushing us.
Well this is a threat... Mkay
@@sandilesick A threat is when someone says "I will harm you". Saying "there will be retaliation if you harm me or steal from me" is not a threat, its a warning.
😂😂😂 ay dom
So you stole the land but dont want it stilen back you cant make this ish up @@francois853
sabc propaganda again
Shows how thick the EFF is! They don't even understand english
Well.
Looks like we shall see a spectacle this fall.
I hope they're stocking up on food, water, first-aid, fuel and ammunition.
based ff+
These nitwits will always jump on any chance to interrupt you with a stupid comeback. They will boo like children in parliament, but don't have something constructive to say. They only want this, want that, but never move a finger to deserve it. They get masses behind them to put fear in others to get their way. When they get rich they retire and leave their supporters in the dark.
Thank you state owned media for unjust reporting. Not even remotely close to threatening, he wasn't even alluding to that.
Yes south African media can be very biased at times . Remember the attempted insurection that failed in July 2021. When people were defending their homes and businesses from the looters the media called it "the phoenix massacre" how can 1% of the population massacre against 90%. It's just too Dom to comprehend
We are not scared of them ,we are well prepared to fight for our land
They can jump to the nearest hel
lodge your claim, it's for free.
Kgohlelelo Themba bra, I'm white okay, not racists, have black friends, etc... can we not as a nation just get along for the countries sake so we don't damage both of our futures and country... instead of resulting to violence as an answer.
The Freedom front should take over government i think. Mr FW De Klerk caused this uprise of the black nation and South Aftica is in total loss nowadays, and so the Freedom Front should fix this unresolved issue and bring back a normal life to South Aftica.
Enough is enough.
Bluff with hot air.
HONORABUL MEMBUH
Lol wheres the threat? 😂😂😂😂😂 The media is so biased
Groenewald iyabheda
Why are people denying the civil war claim, that was quite literally what he said
Please watch this Julius and Shivambu
Reoccupation of people who never even lived there.
Bantu imperialism.
White propaganda
Remember most of the technology you use today came form us whites not you without us you all would still have been living in the bush fighting over one another for land we brought civilized towns and cities and work places for everyone blacks, coloureds, foreigners and whites
"KISS" THE BOERS!!! "KISS" THE BOERS!!!
we as blacks we are just reversing 1949 group areas act thats it
You cannot even reverse a car without bumping it😂
You are not reversing the land act. You want to take africa back to what you are feeling comfortable with. Dark africa which you were before Jan Van Riebeeck tried to uplift you. He made a huge mistake and today we are reaping the benefits. If he followed the path the US and Aus took we would have piece and prosperity and not sir with the burden of trying to save a continent who does not have the need to live in the first world. Thats off-course not including the leaders who love to dress up and live the first world life style.
so what about the farms they plan on taking that have been in family generations since the 1800's? my higher grade maths wont fail me on this i can guarantee that 1949 came after 1800
Do you know you're history leroy
Red glown go get a history lesson at school the 2nd Boer war and you will 👀 the Boers was the winners of that war not great Britain
Let me put it to you frankly - ifyou don't take the land by force your are not living in a dream. If you don't want civil war then don't do do hahahahahahah
"It's not difficult in South Africa for the ordinary person to see the link between capitalism and racist exploitation, and when one sees the link one immediately thinks in terms of a socialist alternative." - Joe Slovo
Socialism has only ever achieved poverty and death
A population in the minority thinks it will survive a civil War. The problem is we never showed them the passion of the black child. Black South Africans United 🔥
Another dutch gangster in suits.
The fraudsters and thieves in red will soon wear orange
They're thinking their the lords' of the worlds. Do injustices then threaten what always keep them awake all night long.
👊👍
😃 I love how how hes not hiding what he is
Not a scaredy cat like you?
Mr Slaan terug 😂😂😂😂😂😂 I don't know who injured FF+members for them to think about revenge they have all the land and wealth..
The wealth is in the hands of corrupt government officials and the Guptas in Dubai. With all the stolen money the could have bought out all the commercial farmland available twice.
They have the land because they have the skills to create prosperity. Those without land does not and will never have the ability. They are consumers who have no long term planning ability. Short term satisfaction is the aim and that does not allow you to create a farm that can produce. Thats how SA became a shithole within 25 years of inheriting world class institutions like eskom. The destruction surprises even the most critical observers.
@@carels5158 nope they have the land cos they stole it
South Africans are very lucky to have a calm, cool headed and humble Zuma as the current leader. If it wasnt for him, SA would have already been in war. JZ is like a stable and solid punching bag in the middle, for the far left and far right to vent their anger and hatred. If he goes down before elections, we might have a serious power disaster. Both from in and outside the ANC.
Van der Dude - how much are the Guptas paying your English public relations firm to shill for that criminal Zuma?
You tell me, since u came up with the idea.
I think you are indeed. I read about a contract the Guptas signed with a UK PR firm in the European Press. They set up fake Twitter, Facebook and TH-cam accounts that shill for Zuma and help spread racial discourse in SA online.
The Saudis did the same thing back in 2001 with AOL Chat rooms online right after 9/11/2001. They had a PR problem...
What makes me so suspicious of you is that your English grammar and spelling is impeccable. We all know how awful SA schools have become.
It is fascinating indeed how Me Van der Dude, regularly and consistently defends the corrupt and indefensible. I have in the past accused him of being on Bell Pottinger's payroll. He regularly defends: Hlaudi, Zuma, Ngubane, Molefe and even Ntlemeza. To give you some more insight into his character, here is a recent Me Van der Dude comment directed at Mmusi Maimane around the Zambia issue: "The same South African Government you are DEFECATING on every single day must now run to your rescue? I wish the goverment responds in the same words u use against them "FUTSEK MAIMANE"!!!!!!!"
Dr LoL, I think you are correct. Dude is a Bell Pottiinger shill, along with Hanz Franz. These two constantly fan the flames of racial disharmony with polemics all the time.
No intelligent person with common sense would so fervently defend a criminal like Zuma, unless they were being paid to do it.
The only thing Zuma runs to is breakfast, lunch and dinner!
To avoid racial tensions I think the government must pay a fair amount of money
U are a snall boy
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