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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ก.ค. 2024
- Here's how to use microtonal scales to make your computer music wavy and wonderful. This xenharmonic tutorial should work in any DAW because I'm demonstrating the plugin method here.
Microtonal music is a deep topic, and this video is just a starting point. If you know of alternative approaches then please share them in the comments to help out others!
Note: while this video shows the Zyn-Fusion synth, these days I would recommend Surge XT as a free software synth with amazing microtonal support. If you're looking for a powerful synth for ANY tuning, start with Surge XT!
The big list of microtonal software synth plugins:
en.xen.wiki/w/List_of_Microto...
Create tuning files using the Scale Workshop web app:
sevish.com/scaleworkshop
Optionally, use Scala instead of Scale Workshop:
www.huygens-fokker.org/scala/
Software shown in this video includes: Bitwig Studio, Zyn-Fusion, EP-MK1
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0:00 Intro
0:30 What software
2:00 Tuning up
2:35 5edo
4:37 Messing around with 19edo
14:40 19edo semaphore[9]
18:19 A golden ratio inspired tuning
27:00 Some chords of 22edo
32:07 How a song like Gleam looks on piano roll - เพลง
"So, this is aimed at computer musicians, but other musicians might also find something interesting here."
>footage of doge
*YES, I'M INTERESTED*
"How big was a fifth again?"
- The Microtonal Motto
Sevish gets 420 baked in his door to abolish 12 EDO (microtonal tutorial)
hahahqhqhhhgahah
You have such a pleasant voice :o
Using Microtones in Electronic Music (microtonal tutorial) but every time Comic Sans is on the screen it gets faster
can u do that please
@@6o6o6 why
@@ploopybear Memes
0:35 Instructions unclear, now my squeaky door makes microtones.
I know you're making a joke but a squeaky door would be squeaking in microtones.
@@barrondaly5803 that's not true! I tune all my doors to 880 hz
@@magnustp1429 pfffft, how unoriginal. I, myself, tune all of my doors to 20hz for that phat bass
@@OrangeC7 what a great idea! Wouldn't you have to have big hinges though?
@@magnustp1429 I install about 2 meter long hinges to get it there, yeah, but it's sooooo worth it
Sevish, I love your music and I admire your willingness to help other musicians who are interested in microtonal music. You are a great inspiration to me, and you are helping to open a whole new musical universe in my life. Thank you very much!
Thanks for that positivity. I would love for more musicians to try alternative tunings to create their own sound. So many talented kids these days with creative ideas, and I'd love to hear their take on microtonality
22:31 I now know how Tommy Flanagan felt when Coltrane asked him to play on Giant Steps
You are the man. Just this week I thought to myself, "I really wanna make crazy shit like Sevish, I wish he had a tutorial." Now I'm obligated to try!
4:56 I was so about to get disappointed lmao. Jokes aside thanks for the tutorial man. I am not a composer/music producer but wanted to play around with microtonal stuff for a while. This is really helpful.
It might be a nod to Adam Neely, too, who's mentioned him before.
Same, my heart nearly dropped lol
I use Reaper, and the piano roll is so much better for this... First thing is that you can remove the keyboard layout and have the midi note values on the left... But even better is that you can change it to whatever you want to write, so you can easily have a reference for the intervals... Also, you can even assign colors to them and save the layout... The only con is that it can take a good while to setup the piano roll, but definitely worth it as you can start building a library of this stuff... To be honest I would change to Reaper for this stuff if it wasn't my main DAW already!
Hey, if you would like, I'm making a huge collection of note name files for Reaper up to 31EDO to eliminate the process of making it. I hope to make a video about it soon, so watch out on it!
Waaaait, can you set the piano roll up in reaper to whatever crazy tuning you want and then compose directly to the roll without an instrument by just clicking note values onto the roll?
"REAPER has a totally configurable piano roll"
:O
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This is the first professional DAW, that I buyed. This week. So YEEESSSSS! This was the best decision that I made. I didn't know that, so it is a BIG LUCK!
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I'm soo blissful now! =D
Hey, if it makes you feel better, I'm making a huge collection of note name files for Reaper up to 31EDO. I hope to upload a video this month about it!
@@nicolaipulley4398 help me :(. I'm too dumb to write microtonal chords on mixcraft pro 9 :(
@@microtonalmilio5233 Is there anything in specific you want to write in (regular temperament, EDO, EDT, etc)? Cause depending on the tuning, you'll need to write them in different ways
It's definitely nice to have the 420 Hz 'baked' into it xD Thank you for this tutorial! You got me very interested in microtonality.
And 69 (A5) is baked in as the base midi note ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
I’ve been wanting to get into making some microtonal music, thinking that the theory behind must be this crazy hard mountain I’d have to climb. What a relief it is to see that you spend a lot of time just screwing around with stuff until it sounds good.
I sang a song as a kid one time and I really enjoyed it but could never play it on piano or my bass. I realized it was microtonal a long time ago but forgot how it goes, now I'll be able to make em gucci.
the qualty of this tutorial will definitely grant you significant popularity. typically when a youtuber makes such a good video ive noticed they become pretty popular pretty quickly.
The algorithm blessed him
That ending... never thought Sevish would do fanservice.
Nice! More tutorials on things like this are needed. BTW, Bitwig does support some degree of more than 12 note scales, but only when it's an equal temperament. Things like 17 EDO, the Bohlen-Pierce scale, and even 31 EDO can all be done on Bitwig because it supports octave stretching and compressing. You can even modulate between different equal temperaments with the percentage knob. What can't be done on Bitwig is a non-equal scale with more than 12 notes. Bitwig also doesn't allow you to customize the piano roll.
In my opinion, Reaper is probably the best DAW for plugin heavy microtonal music, but I think Bitwig is the better microtonal DAW for generative and "hands off" music, as well as loop-heavy stuff.
Could anyone tell me how to do this using the Bitwig micropitch module?
What is the relationship between the octave stretching/compressing figure and knowing how many EDO I now have?
Could you give me examples of how to work out and use 17edo, 19edo and 31edo, using the way they'd be expressed in Bitwig? I can't find an explanation of that anywhere.
Thank you!
It's so cool to see you on Linux. Thank you for this!
Linux represent. More and more folks are using it these days!
@@Sevish By the way, what DE is it and what distro do you use?
@@rustedanvil6918 KDE / KDE Neon - it's my perfect setup right about now
@@Sevish Congratulations on the setup, it's nice to see people finding a home on open *nix systems to be honest. How well does Bitwig on Linux compare to "more mainstream DAWs/environments" (not a musician/producer, I probably have no idea what I'm talking about), think FL Studio/Ableton? I've been thinking in getting into music production lately, heard FL plays nicely with Wine but I would much rather get something native instead
@@purplishdreamish I'm finding that Bitwig does everything I want. Coming from Ableton, Bitwig feels a lot more stable (had constant crashing on Ableton for y.e.a.r.s) and has a better workflow for LFO modulation. Otherwise they are really similar. Of course Bitwig has some downsides too but no show stoppers
Sevish, now you became a real INTERNET STAR!
I can't explain how much I LOVE YOUR STUFF!
Bet Andrew Huang doesn't have subtle quickfire 'A = 432' and '420/69' jokes in his educational videos
I bet andrew would make tasty microtones though.
A = 432 isn't really a joke, it used to be standard for some time actually, the whole "curing qualities" attributed to it are actually the joke
"its basically got 420hz BAKED right into it"
thanks for this video! we are doing an examination paper at university about microtonal application in film music and this video helps alot
Good luck on your examination paper. Glad this video could help. :)
32:06 is 'gleam' isn't it? I absolutely love all the music you produce. You seem to make microtonal music feel so much more 'natural' than any other microtonal artist I've heard and I think it's a crime how underappreciated your music is btw.
That's right it's Gleam. Thanks for the kind words :)
That was fantastic! Thank you for taking the time to teach this stuff!
omg this video is gold
thanks Sevish for all your work
Amazing video! Thanks for sharing your knowledge mate
Thank you!! Please Continue with this series
Nice tutorial. Thanks!
awesome stuff man! thanks!
Great Video, such proffesionality!
Instant sub. Love it. I also love Bitwig and microtonal sounds so i’m looking forward to your videos. For me, with microtonalism, i got into it through being obsessed with gamelan music in the 90s. So rather than building complex chords/polyphonic clusters, I tend to use patterns, ostinatos or arpeggios, individual notes. Which may outline a chord surely. But when you don’t hear all the notes at the same time they come across as less dissonant (at least to my ears).
Amazing quality video, super helpful!! Thank you so much for taking the time to make this.
this was such an enjoyment to watch and listen!
Hey, Sevish, thanks very much
This was extremely helpful
I think 17edo is also a perfect next step from 12edo just because diatonic scales works perfectly there the dorian scale would be 1,4,5,8,11,14,15,(1) there
I'll be watching this later, thanks for all you do!
oh yes
a fellow microtonal kde user
massive respect
Thank you so much for this masterclass! I really appreciate you taking your time to share your knowledge. I enjoyed it a lot.🙏🏻
This is really cool man, thanks!!!
Thank you so much for this tutorial!
Oh my god! Thank you so much! I've been interested in trying some microtonal composition for a while.
I was wondering! Thank you
I’ve anticipated this tutorial since I started listening to your music 🎶 Thank you for sharing this ❤️
Great tutorial. Thanks!
this video is so helpful you have no idea! ive always wanted to do stuff in 5-limit tuning, and i'm a big fan of your stuff, so thanks a ton!
I love this! Fantastic insight into your process.
Not only you're a great musician but also great at explaining. Thank you!
I use Musescore to experiment with Continuous tuning, where there are no defined notes and only ratios between frequencies. Musescore allows you to detune every individual note played differently, whether to 19TET or a perfectly intonated fifth. I find it fun to take some harmonics and ratios and see what they could sound like in chords.
Where are these options in Musescore? I can't find them anywhere
Wojciech Dramiński You have to place the note first. Then you select it and press F8 to open the Inspector window (on Windows at least). At the bottom there’s a value labeled “Tuning,” set to 0.00 by default and you can tune up or down in cents.
It’s admittedly not the best way to experiment with micro tuning, since you have to do it to every note you place.
Wojciech Dramiński In the inspector I believe
this is HUGE man. thank you for taking a lead roll in the micro-tonal revolution!
Sevish, you are a god not only for putting in the effort to make this video, but also your music is phenomenal
Genuinely mind bending stuff!
Thank you for the informative video! Really useful and helpful to people just getting into microtonal electronic music.
Fallen in love. Amazing tutorial. In particular, the last part about 22edo and the chords of gleam. Thanks Sevish
Thanks putting this up and also making the scale workshop. Using it to make interesting Kalimba tunings. Diving by ratios and then using modes to bring the amount of notes down is so much fun.
"it doesn't sound that great"
W H A T ! ?
"it doesn't sound great"
>sounds better than anything I've made combined
Thanks for showing that. I've been appreciating your music for a while and was curious about your techniques and process. I haven't gotten bored with 12TET yet for my own but definitely enjoy hearing music based on other tuning systems and am glad to have some tips on how to achieve it.
I don't even know if I will try any of these things but i do know that I loved this video and you should be making more of them! Great job
First ever type of tut on yt? Good stuff
John New Brendan Byrnes has one too but it’s not nearly as synth intensive
You're awesome. Thanks!
Mate I've been admiring what you do for years and wondered how you did it just as long. Thank you very very much for putting this up!!
I just recently started toying with arabic quater tone scales and dipped my toe into 17tet. Your tracks have been a major inspiration for going off the reservation and see if there's stuff worth listening too out there. It's difficult to overstate your influence in this regard. Please keep doing this, it's difficult to find useful info on composing in xenharmonic territory, let alone producing danceable tunes.
I wonder if Vocaloid supports microtuning. It probably doesn’t but it would be lit
Your dog is cute! Also yeah what you’re doing, man, keep it up. I love hearing this stuff and I only discovered the concept yesterday!
youre the man sevish
Man I remember hearing futureman from bela fleck and the flecktones was making an instrument based on the golden ratio and I had no clue what that could possibly mean. Now years later I have an answer! Thank you sir!
This might be a rare example of something that’s actually easier in modular synthesis. As there no such thing as pitch in modular- it’s just control voltage- you simply need a quantiser module with a raft of microtonal scale options. An obvious example is the Quantermain app within Ornament and Crime, but there are others…
awesome thanks for the tutorial!
Just starting out with exploring this microtonal thing in more detail and finding it fascinating. There’s something pleasant about the way that notes can produce a sort of dissonance depending on context. A few years back I used several instances of Reaper’s stock sampler to replicate the harmonic series and didn’t start messing with it again until recently. Now realizing that there are tons of possibilities for tunings.
Also I like the sound of that name “Sevish.”
This is amazing! I have wanted to experiment with microtonal tunings for quite some time now but it gets kinda overwhelming trying to grasp it all!
Great tutorial! No bullshit, and very enlightening
Great intro, thanks!
Thanks so much for this tute - sper helpful!
@Sevish thanks so much for explaining the .kbm file part. I was always wondering why multiple instances of ZynAddSubFX with the same .scl file sounded out-of-tune sometimes, and how it knew/decided what frequency to start the scale from. Also thanks so much for building ScaleWorkshop and letting it be freely available to everyone. So awesome.
SEVISH YOU ARE THE MAN! finally a proper microtonal tutorial on youtube. great webapp btw, much easier to use than scala for me since i dont need any of the advanced functionality of scala
Hey Sevish, I’ve enjoyed your work for a while now and have been interested in microtonal music for years no but was never sure how to compose with it. Thank you so much for this video it helped more than you could know!
Glad to hear it :)
This is awesome. I love you.
Love your music dude ✌🏻✌🏻👍🏻
I personally use hardware microtonal synthesizers. I sample the melodies and play them back to overdub. For those interested, the korg monologue is microtonal and Aphex twin even put some of his own scales in there. It's a no brainer starting point for a mono synth in my opinion.
What about the minilogue? I know you can tune it up and down, but can you get it out of 12edo?
Bro I love you. Thank you a lot
Thanks so much for this video, I just got reaper and was struggling to figure out how to do the things you explained
This is great, Sean! I hope there will be more about your composition process... :)
thanks for this
your dog is very pretty =)
i appreciate that you don't skip the fumbling and bumbling around! it makes your tutorial very beginner friendly, and you just sound like a cool, non judgemental music educator, emphasizing on the fun you're having as opposed to your skills, and it's lovely
OMG i was hoping you would make a tutorial!
Amazing!
Very cool Sevish. Been listening to your stuff for a couple of years, you're almost a magician when it comes to this stuff. Been thinking of trying stuff like this out in Reason, but haven't gotten around to it yet. My idea is that if you take, say, 5 or 6 instances of whatever synth Reason ships with and use each synth to just play one note to build a chord (7th or 9th or something similar), then set the portamento settings differently on each synth and let the notes slide up or down criss crossed into another chord. Also at the same time you could pan the notes out to the sides while they slide to make the effect even more interesting. That'd probably create some nice textures.
420 hertz. Base midi note 69.
Well played, Sevish
Nice played*
Really enjoyed this. Very interesting stuff. I like how some of the chords sound like they are going it of tune. Maybe its beat frequencies or something, they just sound like they have more movement than traditional 12 tone chords.
Nicely done indeed. Although in your particular case I would not look at microtonality apart from astonishing beats
Thank you for the video!)
Thank you!!
22:34 I'm now thinking "Cyriak".
I wish more people were doing just intonation like Robert Rich and Jon Cater. Hansford Rowe has Steel Blue on Band Camp.
I agree because I wish more people were using alternative tunings in general!
I need a 41 semitones in an octave music, i didn't found any in TH-cam, i extremely love your art, thank you!
Thank you
Found you through your music in Spotify after searching google for mandelbulbs (Google's algorithm knew how to send me to you). Great stuff!!!
I was pleasantly unsurprised to find out you program and use Linux, you had to be techy to enable DAWs to do this and a bit of a numbers need to go into microtonal and freaky time signatures music
Your dog looks exactly like mine also great vid
I would actually be super interested in a video on how you go about using microtones in your compositions. Like, a discussion on moving up and down a harmonic series (traditonal harmony) vs using the overtones of a sound to define a scale and modulating with those shared overtones (ala Collier).
Good video
Very good. For what it's worth, I found the Golden Ratio stuff intriguing.
There are various different approaches to utilising the golden ratio. The "circle of phis" tuning shown in this video is just one possibility.