Hi there, been following to channels for some time now. And I am looking for some help from you if you can. I have a waterbox marine x 90.3. I am looking at upgrading my lights I have order 30” Ai blades 1 grow and 1 glow. Was thing of adding a 3rd would you go with another grow or glow? Looking to run a reef tank, lps and possibly some sticks sps. Look forward to hearing from you. Thanks
On my new tank, I'm thinking of going all blades. But curious to know how white you can make them? I love white light in the middle/peak of the day, I would probably have 3 blades, 2 of the outside ones being the blue spectrum but the middle one being mainly white spectrum, is this doable? Or do you think its hard to acheive real white light/halide looking light?
Love the tank question, I have a 29-gallon long going with LPS mainly planning on upgrading my lights. If I would go with the blades, how many should I buy one of the 30 or two?
That's a great question. I think it would, but I just move these around on the reef tank and it's no biggie. On my Lagoon they are fixed and it is definitely not ideal, but not a deal breaker either for me.
What did you end up putting around the top of your aquarium to make it black? I might have missed that in another video. I know you were discussing it a couple weeks ago.
@@TreasureCorals Thanks! I have xr15s I’m using and I just bought the shades from you. If that doesn’t work, I may switch to lower mounting AI blades like you did. I love your videos! Really helping me set up my tank.
Would you elaborate on the decision to have multiple Blade *Grow* lights and not using a "Glow" instead of one to broaden the spectrum? I have the Grow and will add another Blade, but am leaning toward the Glow for the 2nd.
Great question. Two reasons: if you are mixing 3 lights, then glow is a viable option, but if 2 - you might get the banding where the front would be different than the back. Second - I personally not a huge fan of purple and deep purple and prefer my tanks more crisper blue, I find that I can get a more aesthetically pleasing look with the grows, they are super flexible.
I think mine is only targeting grows. On my new tank I am setting up 4 grows and 2 glows, so currently working on a revised schedule to handle that. Will be publishing that soon.
Yeah i misunderstood your setup 😂 got my blades today, but for no I just did the built in program for glow and grow, but your schedule looks so much better :)
I’m having the same issue as Frankie Mason. I can download the app, but Mobius doesn’t see it as a useable preset. The preset is grayed out, and will not install. Have you found a workaround for this? Thanks!
I think I have a solution, when you download - sometimes the file extension is not preserved, please make sure that it is still there. When that part is done - it was fixed. Happy to try and help you if you need further assistance.
Hey mate it clearly works for you but daum you go from 110 % to 20% so sharply do u find the corals are affected by sharper chamges BETTER or WORSE. Have you tried smother curves on the Light schedule vs the sharp design schedule?
Anton, great question - I actually think it won't shock them, back in the day people used T5 light where you turn it on sharply on the tank with 600 PAR all at once, and corals / fish were fine. I think both approaches work well.
I wonder if I cranked the royal and blue all they way down and cranked up the white to the max for 4 to 6 hours a day if it would be ok for the lps corals and ran the blue & royal 100% for the first 6 hours of the day
That’s a white tail bristletooth tang, correct? Is it darker than most? I ask because even in your daylight settings the redish color that is typically in the body of the tang seems so muted.
Do you have a problem with your flame nipping/eating your corals? I love flames and regale but am being told to suck it up and out genicanthus in instead for my RSR 525. I have torches, hammers, favias, brain, zoas and anemones
I have a 48in AI Grow for my tank. I tried downloading the link so I could put into my lights, but there was nothing on the download. Has anyone downloaded the lights to try? Is there something wrong that I’m doing to download it incorrectly?
Hi. New Sub. Great channel. I'm thinking about these lights for my 75 gallon. Thinking about 1 glow, 1grow, and one freshwater (to make the pink and blue corals look better at midday. Cheers, Chris
Welcome and thanks for the sub. That's actually a cool combo - I am so curious to try the freshwater on the saltwater tank and I think it would make for a great look. Definitely an interesting combo, I would just be concerned with the mixing if you look at the tank from the side.
@@TreasureCorals Yes, I'll have to see but this tank isn't really visible from the side. I may purchase a glow and a grow first and see how well the grow can make pink and blue corals look. In your tank It looked like it can produce fairly white light. Cheers, Chris
Assuming a creative mounting solution could enable this, 2 lights could be placed next to eachother and then at slightly offset angles such that the 95%+ of the main surface area they cover completely overlap. I’m thinking 2 lights towards the front of the tank aimed slightly backwards. Then as budget allows or initially if you have the cash, 2 lights could be added in a similar manner closer to the back of the tank. It’s interesting the LED count you get per set of 2 9-inch pucks if you do a freshwater and a glow vs. 2 grows (see below): 2 Grows: 24 Royal Blue 12 Blue 12 Cool White 1 Freshwater + 1 Glow: 3 405nm 3 415nm 6 430nm 12 Royal Blue 2 Blue 16 Cool White 4 Warm White 2 Red In comparison to the 2 grows, you lose 12 Royal Blues and 10 Blues, but you gain 4 Cool Whites, 4 Warm Whites, 2 Reds and then 12 in the 405-430nm range. Seems like a lot more flexibility with the Freshwater/Glow option.
@@timjohnson3913 I'm currently using one grow(back of tank), one Fresh Water ( center) and one glow (up front). I'm growing primarily SPS including Acros. Everything seems to be growing nicely but I am experiencing some uglys. The tank was started as an instareef using substrate and rubble from a 19 year old reef with a deep sand bed ( that was a thing 20 years ago)😁. It was started in April of 23 so uglys are not unexpected. Cheers, Chris
How are the blades going you still pleased has the lack of uv made any difference to coral colours due to running Grows only ? think passively cooled bars are the way forward are your schedules available for My Ai app as although there the same company my Ai is just so much better than mobius
Umm so when I try to download your settings it won’t show up on my AI app… idk what is going on but the signature downloads from the AI website gets downloaded
I have had my AI blades scene late Feb. build is going slow, tank just went through a 2 month cycle fired both lights up I think I have the dreaded one side is brighter than the other. anyway what setting did you land on? BTW LOVE both tanks so clean my GOD. if I hade to pick on it would be the LPS tank. that nepth. front and center is amazing! if I lived in Canada I would grab a frag from you for sure.
just got my blade grow on my waterbox 20 (45x45x45). am running this schedule at 50% intensity as it is quite bright for a nano tank, is that ok for softies or should i have it cranked up more?
Yes, both are good options in my opinion. Although I would always try to have 2 instead of 1 just to get more of that enveloping light. Grow all the way
@@84latinray Gotcha, all the latest schedules are only for Mobius as this is the new app for both AI and EcoTech products, all of your AI products should work fine there as well
I have a an LPS dominant tank that is 48x24x24 and am looking at getting two blades but can’t decide if I want to get two grows or a grow and a glow. What do you recommend?
Adding a Glow to the LPS tank would make it glow (no pun intended) lol The Violet LEDs fluoresce things that Royal and blue can’t. You wouldn’t need them for PAR but just straight fluorescence!
Good point, Ryan, however I played around and was not able to see TOO much of a difference in fluorescence. The royal blue in grow seem to get a very similar effect.
The whiter look is always more satisfying for me too. I hate tanks that just have that washed out deep blue look. White spectrum is much getter for growth as well.
hey mate if i hit the link for the lagoon settings it takes me to 2 options open with samsung fitness or open with my AI app .both options do nothing . any other way of obtaining the schedule . thxz
@@reef_water_drop interesting. I thought Hydras were supported, see if there's an option to update "legacy" devices and perhaps see what AI says about it officially.
@@TreasureCorals Thank you for introducing me to the mobius app, I like it way more than my ai! However the file would still not upload to the app. It will let me up load the presets that I created but not the ones I downloaded just wanted to let you know incase there was something wrong with the file.
@@FrankieMason-k6q hi Frankie, can you describe the process of inputting the file into the Mobius app? Perhaps there's a step there that we can improve upon, feel free to email me at contact@treasurecorals.com and I'll do my best to help you out
I am not a lighting expert (only play one on TV), but I would think that their white channel should include some red and green spectrum, just not explicit. I wonder if that is actually the case though - if anyone could chime in, that would be great.
Hi all, not sure if anyone can help, but I'm trying to download the Schedule listed in the video description so I can run on my blade. Seems to download to my mobile (IOS) as a .mob file. Anyone have any ideas how I convert so I can open in the AI or Mobius app? Thanks in advance.
Thanks for sharing your AI Blade schedule!!
My pleasure
Thank you for the template. We are loving the wind down evening look.
Thank you, I'm glad you like it
Copperbands looking great. Glad the powder blue has left him alone now. Your corals colours are excellent 👌
Thanks Bobby, I think I can do better. I need to do better. I will do better.
I wish you would do an update on this!
I will be posting one soon
interesting!! love the contrast of the lights. Powder blue tang looks great! glad he's better!
man this tank is what inspires me to keep going. incredible job
Really? means a lot.
Thanks for these videos. I’m following in your footsteps so this is awesome!
Glad you like them! Appreciate it and good luck on your journey!
Both tanks look very stunning 😍🙌🏼👏🏻
Thank you! :D
ultra clear water, amazing!!
Hi there, been following to channels for some time now. And I am looking for some help from you if you can. I have a waterbox marine x 90.3. I am looking at upgrading my lights I have order 30” Ai blades 1 grow and 1 glow. Was thing of adding a 3rd would you go with another grow or glow? Looking to run a reef tank, lps and possibly some sticks sps. Look forward to hearing from you. Thanks
for sure get another grow. 2:1 is a good ratio
Thanks very much, have a good evening!
thanks for the video, very informative. What is you par?
I get about 200 in my lagoon and 300 in my reef.
Looks very good 👏🏻
Nice colors
I have 2 Grow and 1 Glow. Can I run this schedule on the glow and just match all the %'s to the UV and Violet? How do you think it would effect par?
I have a current usa on noth 40. And 20. With one should I get to add. Grow and glory my corsls.
Thank you
On my new tank, I'm thinking of going all blades. But curious to know how white you can make them? I love white light in the middle/peak of the day, I would probably have 3 blades, 2 of the outside ones being the blue spectrum but the middle one being mainly white spectrum, is this doable? Or do you think its hard to acheive real white light/halide looking light?
Thanks for being so detailed. What’s that green leather on the front of your lagoon? Stunning!
It is Mr Fuzzy nepthea, I've just fragged it :)
Where do I download the schedule? Help pls
treasurecorals.com/pages/lighting
Love the tank question, I have a 29-gallon long going with LPS mainly planning on upgrading my lights. If I would go with the blades, how many should I buy one of the 30 or two?
I would get 30 for sure, I think that it will give you more flexibility and coverage. Get both grows.
I would love a blade grow with a warm white chip and one violet chip in each lens
Nice
How high are the blades? Is there a video in which I can see how they are mounted?
Yes, just shot a posted a video for you :)
where can I see your old 52HD schedule? Thanks!
You can get it from AI Signature Website
The Light schedule looks amazing. I’m wondering if you know how to get into my ai app and not mobis ? Thanks
Thanks, there is no easy way of doing it as far as I know. Why not give Mobius a try?
Plan on setting up a IM 20 g peninsula soon do you recommend the Ai Grow?
Yes, love the lights and have them on both of my tanks now.
How do you get the file on the mobius app it literally won’t let me click on the file to select it for my template someone please help
You will want to save it in your "Files" in iCloud and then you can open it from the Mobius app when you "Import" the schedule.
Where is the file to download?
Does having blades make accessing the tank more awkward as they are do close to the water ,do you have to remove the lights to do any work in tank
That's a great question. I think it would, but I just move these around on the reef tank and it's no biggie. On my Lagoon they are fixed and it is definitely not ideal, but not a deal breaker either for me.
What did you end up putting around the top of your aquarium to make it black? I might have missed that in another video. I know you were discussing it a couple weeks ago.
I used that same black film that people use on the back of the aquariums. Does the job quite well.
@@TreasureCorals Thanks! I have xr15s I’m using and I just bought the shades from you. If that doesn’t work, I may switch to lower mounting AI blades like you did. I love your videos! Really helping me set up my tank.
@@Leoti42 thank you, and really appreciate you getting the shades!
Would you elaborate on the decision to have multiple Blade *Grow* lights and not using a "Glow" instead of one to broaden the spectrum? I have the Grow and will add another Blade, but am leaning toward the Glow for the 2nd.
Great question. Two reasons: if you are mixing 3 lights, then glow is a viable option, but if 2 - you might get the banding where the front would be different than the back. Second - I personally not a huge fan of purple and deep purple and prefer my tanks more crisper blue, I find that I can get a more aesthetically pleasing look with the grows, they are super flexible.
Will your file work for me that have 2 grow and 1 glow?
I think mine is only targeting grows. On my new tank I am setting up 4 grows and 2 glows, so currently working on a revised schedule to handle that. Will be publishing that soon.
Yeah i misunderstood your setup 😂 got my blades today, but for no I just did the built in program for glow and grow, but your schedule looks so much better :)
@@ftwjl666 thank you!
It won’t let me use the download file in the mobius app. Why would that be? Thanks.
Can you please try again? I've verified with a few people and it is working for them.
@@TreasureCorals it worked in the mobius app? I tried on two different browsers. It’ll let me download but won’t let me upload into mobius.
@@thcdurk6311 You will want to load them to your "Files" on your Mac and it will then show up on your iPhone
@@TreasureCorals yeah shows in my files but not highlighted like other downloaded files off of ai website.
How have you found the powder blue and purple get along?
No problem there at all, they get along just fine
Have you noticed water temp increases with the blades mounted directly above the water? If so, by roughly how much?
I did not, in neither of the tanks.
It looks beautiful tank.Are you going to Niagara in April?🤣👍
Yes, we'll do another selfie! :D
@@TreasureCorals 🤣👍
Thank you for the Template !!!
My pleasure!
I’m having the same issue as Frankie Mason. I can download the app, but Mobius doesn’t see it as a useable preset. The preset is grayed out, and will not install. Have you found a workaround for this? Thanks!
I think I have a solution, when you download - sometimes the file extension is not preserved, please make sure that it is still there. When that part is done - it was fixed. Happy to try and help you if you need further assistance.
Do you recommend the grow or glow for supplementing xr15 g6 blues?
I'd go for grows :) I currently have glows supplementing XR30 G5s in my farm, but I'd go for Grows there as well :)
Hey mate it clearly works for you but daum you go from 110 % to 20% so sharply do u find the corals are affected by sharper chamges BETTER or WORSE.
Have you tried smother curves on the Light schedule vs the sharp design schedule?
Anton, great question - I actually think it won't shock them, back in the day people used T5 light where you turn it on sharply on the tank with 600 PAR all at once, and corals / fish were fine. I think both approaches work well.
For a 20-gallon water box what size do I need 12”or21” and how many smart blades led thank you
what are the dimensions of your particular Waterbox? I'd always recommend two lights just to get that very even T5-like spread.
17.7” L*17.7”w*15.7H plans mix reef
@@7583daniel I'd get two of the 12'' (you don't want to go larger than the tank itself).
I wonder if I cranked the royal and blue all they way down and cranked up the white to the max for 4 to 6 hours a day if it would be ok for the lps corals and ran the blue & royal 100% for the first 6 hours of the day
I think so
That’s a white tail bristletooth tang, correct? Is it darker than most? I ask because even in your daylight settings the redish color that is typically in the body of the tang seems so muted.
Yes, that's the one. Not sure if he always was like that or has he gone darker with time. I would love to figure out how to make him redder, any tips?
How are you finding the black strip on the top of the tank ? It seems to have done the job 😊
I love it Mick. Definitely stays there for now :)
@@TreasureCoralswhat tank is that ?
Any algae issues with the whites up that high?
No, none
Does it give you shimmer? I need to get rid of shimmer from my redsea rl90. Maybe get some blades
Almost no shimmer, nothing noticeable but would depend on water agitation and the number of blades
Im having issues downloading the template it wont upload to ai iphone 14
what App are you using to import it into?
Do you have a problem with your flame nipping/eating your corals? I love flames and regale but am being told to suck it up and out genicanthus in instead for my RSR 525. I have torches, hammers, favias, brain, zoas and anemones
I honestly have not seen him nip, my Marvin the Martian looks phenomenal
What microphone do you use? Tank is looking great!
I use Rode GO II wireless, seems to be alight.
I have a 48in AI Grow for my tank. I tried downloading the link so I could put into my lights, but there was nothing on the download. Has anyone downloaded the lights to try? Is there something wrong that I’m doing to download it incorrectly?
Have you been helped?
Hi. New Sub. Great channel. I'm thinking about these lights for my 75 gallon. Thinking about 1 glow, 1grow, and one freshwater (to make the pink and blue corals look better at midday.
Cheers,
Chris
Welcome and thanks for the sub. That's actually a cool combo - I am so curious to try the freshwater on the saltwater tank and I think it would make for a great look. Definitely an interesting combo, I would just be concerned with the mixing if you look at the tank from the side.
@@TreasureCorals Yes, I'll have to see but this tank isn't really visible from the side. I may purchase a glow and a grow first and see how well the grow can make pink and blue corals look. In your tank It looked like it can produce fairly white light.
Cheers,
Chris
@@Cgraseck sounds good, let me know how that goes, curious.
Assuming a creative mounting solution could enable this, 2 lights could be placed next to eachother and then at slightly offset angles such that the 95%+ of the main surface area they cover completely overlap. I’m thinking 2 lights towards the front of the tank aimed slightly backwards. Then as budget allows or initially if you have the cash, 2 lights could be added in a similar manner closer to the back of the tank. It’s interesting the LED count you get per set of 2 9-inch pucks if you do a freshwater and a glow vs. 2 grows (see below):
2 Grows:
24 Royal Blue
12 Blue
12 Cool White
1 Freshwater + 1 Glow:
3 405nm
3 415nm
6 430nm
12 Royal Blue
2 Blue
16 Cool White
4 Warm White
2 Red
In comparison to the 2 grows, you lose 12 Royal Blues and 10 Blues, but you gain 4 Cool Whites, 4 Warm Whites, 2 Reds and then 12 in the 405-430nm range. Seems like a lot more flexibility with the Freshwater/Glow option.
@@timjohnson3913 I'm currently using one grow(back of tank), one Fresh Water ( center) and one glow (up front). I'm growing primarily SPS including Acros. Everything seems to be growing nicely but I am experiencing some uglys. The tank was started as an instareef using substrate and rubble from a 19 year old reef with a deep sand bed ( that was a thing 20 years ago)😁. It was started in April of 23 so uglys are not unexpected.
Cheers,
Chris
How are the blades going you still pleased has the lack of uv made any difference to coral colours due to running Grows only ? think passively cooled bars are the way forward are your schedules available for My Ai app as although there the same company my Ai is just so much better than mobius
Yes, I've been running them on both aquariums and so far everything looks phenomenal. I am not sure how important that low UV really is
Umm so when I try to download your settings it won’t show up on my AI app… idk what is going on but the signature downloads from the AI website gets downloaded
You will want to use Mobius app instead. That's where all AI products are moving.
Could not download your setting
what was the error/issue that you encountered?
@@TreasureCorals why I press download it downloads but all I get is a photo of a plain paper and I can’t transfer it to myai app
@@Davidsworldz these will only work with Mobius app (and you can move your AI lights there) - this is the future for these lights anyways
I installed the. Ai. Blade yor my blade. How do I save it.
Have you been helped?
I have had my AI blades scene late Feb. build is going slow, tank just went through a 2 month cycle fired both lights up I think I have the dreaded one side is brighter than the other.
anyway what setting did you land on?
BTW LOVE both tanks so clean my GOD. if I hade to pick on it would be the LPS tank. that nepth. front and center is amazing! if I lived in Canada I would grab a frag from you for sure.
I will be doing a video on this soon, stay tuned.
Оба хороши! Какие размеры банок?
Спасибо, все можно посмотреть на AquaticLog.com по ссылке, там вся информация по обоим аквариумам.
do you think one blade can run a 120 liter aquarium with easy corals in it?
yes, it is a beast. but unless yours is very narrow it might be not optimal as it will be a point light source in one dimension
just got my blade grow on my waterbox 20 (45x45x45). am running this schedule at 50% intensity as it is quite bright for a nano tank, is that ok for softies or should i have it cranked up more?
I would not increase it for now, you can observe your coral for the next couple of weeks to see if you need to adjust
@@TreasureCorals thanks. Happy with the 50% to be fair!!! Thankyou love the schedule!
1 Blade Grow for 60x30x36 (cm) and 2 Blade Grow for 90x45x45 would work? LPS only as beginner tank.
Yes, both are good options in my opinion. Although I would always try to have 2 instead of 1 just to get more of that enveloping light. Grow all the way
It won’t let me download your schedule
what type of an error are you getting?
@@TreasureCorals it doesn’t pop up i can download your other one on the AI site but not the blade one
@@84latinray are you using AI app or Mobius?
@@TreasureCorals ai app
@@84latinray Gotcha, all the latest schedules are only for Mobius as this is the new app for both AI and EcoTech products, all of your AI products should work fine there as well
Great video and lovely setup 👍...🤔BUT After downloading light schedule.. it won't open up 🤷 anyone else have this problem??
are you using Mobius or AI app?
@TreasureCorals Hi thank you for the reply I was using the Ai app
@@petewilkins9134 Try Mobius, all of the AI equipment is moving to it anyways. Should work well for you and is great.
@TreasureCorals ok, I will give it a try. And thank you again for all your very helpful information. 🇬🇧✌️
I have a an LPS dominant tank that is 48x24x24 and am looking at getting two blades but can’t decide if I want to get two grows or a grow and a glow. What do you recommend?
Two grows for sure
Adding a Glow to the LPS tank would make it glow (no pun intended) lol
The Violet LEDs fluoresce things that Royal and blue can’t. You wouldn’t need them for PAR but just straight fluorescence!
Good point, Ryan, however I played around and was not able to see TOO much of a difference in fluorescence. The royal blue in grow seem to get a very similar effect.
How do I get your schedule onto my light I download the file but idk how to get in on it?
"Files" in iCloud
The whiter look is always more satisfying for me too. I hate tanks that just have that washed out deep blue look. White spectrum is much getter for growth as well.
Agree, I love to see the real colors of corals as well
hey mate if i hit the link for the lagoon settings it takes me to 2 options open with samsung fitness or open with my AI app .both options do nothing . any other way of obtaining the schedule . thxz
Hi, you will need to install Mobius app to import those settings
Hi, I tried downloading your schedules but for whatever reason when I go to Mobius I cannot upload them. Do I have to do it through the ai app.
Have you been helped?
Are the files only for Mobius? Anything for MyAI?
They are for Mobius, I find that I no longer need to use MyAI (which is a great app)
How you can and AI hydra to mobius ?
They are now fully recognized by Mobius, you can add them the same way as EcoTech light
@@TreasureCorals Hi I’ve got a Hydra26hd and cannot see it in mobius when adding new device .
@@reef_water_drop interesting. I thought Hydras were supported, see if there's an option to update "legacy" devices and perhaps see what AI says about it officially.
@@TreasureCorals ok thanks
I downloaded your preset and it wont give me the option to upload it to the my ai app, I'm on iPhone any suggestions?
hi Frankie, I use Mobius app, is that something that you could install?
@@TreasureCorals Thank you for introducing me to the mobius app, I like it way more than my ai! However the file would still not upload to the app. It will let me up load the presets that I created but not the ones I downloaded just wanted to let you know incase there was something wrong with the file.
@@FrankieMason-k6q hi Frankie, can you describe the process of inputting the file into the Mobius app? Perhaps there's a step there that we can improve upon, feel free to email me at contact@treasurecorals.com and I'll do my best to help you out
20 inches deep. Both tanks.
Why not full spectrum? I need led bars in full spectrum .. so stupid
I am not a lighting expert (only play one on TV), but I would think that their white channel should include some red and green spectrum, just not explicit. I wonder if that is actually the case though - if anyone could chime in, that would be great.
Can you just do a video of just your phone, just show at what times you are doing what settings? That would be amazing.
Specially on the ai grow?
The file for the download schedule doesn’t work I’ve tried on my phone and computer
Did the file work for you ?
Hi all, not sure if anyone can help, but I'm trying to download the Schedule listed in the video description so I can run on my blade. Seems to download to my mobile (IOS) as a .mob file. Anyone have any ideas how I convert so I can open in the AI or Mobius app? Thanks in advance.
Have you been helped, Peter?
I'm using. Second program. On mobius
Sweet!
My app doesn't look like yours.🤔🤔
Hmm, how so?
I like the non flying satellite look over the aquarium. Tanks with visible fixtures above, don't look pleasing to me.
Yes, very unique, I do like it as well
Is it me, all these videos of blades, the light looks dull .
Hard to say, sometimes camera is not doing it justice. I'd say that they are quite bright, I'm not even running them at full intensity