This is just absolutely gougeous. Thank you. I am a zen-student in Zen River temple in The Netherlands, having just discovered this. The infusion of Zen vocabulary with psychological, therapeutic perspective is just so welcome. I will devour everything from now on 🙂
The sugar analogy is interesting. But how does tasting sugar constitute "knowing" it in a way that learning about its chemical constituents or its effects on health is not? It's obvious to me that ALL THESE are instrumental in getting to know sugar, what it is, its nature and so forth - and there are other ways as well. But it's not so obvious how "tasting" it is necessarily primary. For example, if I had more than 5 senses, I would experience sugar differently. How are we to know that our 5 senses are adequate to the task of "knowing"? I'm not at all sure that "tasting" is reliable where knowing is concerned, although it happens to be one way of how human beings can relate to that which is called sugar. Then again, the Zen master here may agree: we can never really "know" sugar, let alone anything else; we begin with "I don't know" and live within that space.
This is just absolutely gougeous. Thank you. I am a zen-student in Zen River temple in The Netherlands, having just discovered this. The infusion of Zen vocabulary with psychological, therapeutic perspective is just so welcome. I will devour everything from now on 🙂
Loving not knowing, glowing and flowing… singing my song! Thanks 👍☺️👨🎨🎨🎼🎉🥰🙏☝️💫
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@dr.kenmiller4227 this comment made my night. it's radical to find joy in unknowing but sometimes it seems possible...
Lovely lovely discourses! Deep gratitude to Zen Master
Wonderful. A nice talk. Thank you for this gem.
Awesome poem!
We dont know until we experience it
The sugar analogy is interesting. But how does tasting sugar constitute "knowing" it in a way that learning about its chemical constituents or its effects on health is not? It's obvious to me that ALL THESE are instrumental in getting to know sugar, what it is, its nature and so forth - and there are other ways as well. But it's not so obvious how "tasting" it is necessarily primary. For example, if I had more than 5 senses, I would experience sugar differently. How are we to know that our 5 senses are adequate to the task of "knowing"? I'm not at all sure that "tasting" is reliable where knowing is concerned, although it happens to be one way of how human beings can relate to that which is called sugar. Then again, the Zen master here may agree: we can never really "know" sugar, let alone anything else; we begin with "I don't know" and live within that space.
"we can never really "know" sugar, let alone anything else; we begin with 'I don't know'"
To the first beings even ROCK tasted sweet. (why else does lichen spread all over it?)