Luminance vs Lightfast [BEST Colored Pencils]
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ก.ค. 2024
- I have been so excited to do this colored pencil battle-Caran d’Ache Luminance vs Derwent Lightfast! These are quite possibly two of the best colored pencils in the world. They are artist grade pencils with some of the highest lightfast ratings. Both Caran d’Ache and Derwent thoroughly test their pencils according to the highest lightfast standards-ASTM 6901 & Blue Wool. (Luminance uses only the 6901 standard, and Derwent uses both standards.)
So let’s test them using our popular Coloring Bliss “Colored Pencil Battle” head-to-head worksheet! Which brand do you think will win? Comment below. Both Steve and I were honestly surprised by the results.
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CHAPTER MARKERS
00:00:00 - Welcome & Introduction
00:02:10 - How to Use the Battle Worksheet
00:03:48 - Step 1: 10-Color Swatches
00:04:23 - Step 2: White Swatch
00:04:47 - Step 3: Black Swatch
00:05:36 - Step 4: Visible on Black
00:06:04 - Step 5: Layering
00:07:58 - Step 6: Crumbs
00:08:40 - Step 7: Pigment Transfer
00:09:43 - Step 8: Watersolubility
00:10:03 - Step 9: Blending
00:10:58 - Scoring the Battle
00:37:53 - Battle Results & Final Thoughts
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I have both of these sets. I bought smaller sets, combined them and filled in with open stock where I saw gaps in the color range. They work beautifully together and you can find online color-ordered sheets of both collections combined. I find the Lightfast has a great range of landscape colors where Luminance has a great range of portrait colors. Harry at The Art Gear Guide has a great article comparing the color ranges side-by-side. Your comparison along with Harry’s provide very comprehensive information for these sets. Thanks for putting this video together!
Luminance vs Holbein would be an amazing battle!
I’m not surprised that luminance won, but I was surprised at how close it was! This was exactly what I wanted to see, a really good look at the Derwent lightfast. Thanks! So now I’m curious how it compares to prismacolor…. ;-) Thanks for the giveaway opportunity!
I’ve always been a Prismacolor girl. I recently got the Derwent lightfast and couldn’t believe how creamy they were! I love them and I was not expecting to.
I did the test myself and got different results probably because I used a lighter hand and different paper. None of my Lightfast left crumbs and layered many times on my smooth paper. Every single one of my Luminance pencils left crumbs. Luminance did not layer well on my Smooth Bristol paper. Even my Prismacolor did better on Smooth Bristol and got very few crumbs. I love using my smooth paper so I wont be using Luminance on it.
When pencils are this expensive for me the lightfastness is the reason to buy them, so I would have been very interested in knowing which set had the most highest rated pencils and how many there were of any other level rating too.
When comparing the color ranges I wish there could be a swatch sheet with all the colors on 1 page.
I would also like knowing which colors were not in both sets. If you were buying open stock which ones to buy so you had all the colors without duplicates.
For future comparisons I would be interested in both these sets vs polychromos.
Thank you for doing such an in depth comparison. Your videos always contain such wonderful and insightful information.
I’m surprised at the results, now Amazon needs to drop the price of the Lightfast so I can afford them.
I love watching you do the comparison videos. I have learned so much!
Yes! I’m now skilled at blending thanks to Jennifer’s video on blending thirds!! Such an AWESOME teacher and an ARSENAL of training tools and videos she gives us!!
Thank you for all the hard work you put in to your videos... I always check your reviews before I purchase my coloring and drawing supplies !
Never knew the trick of turning your pencil for holding a point! Love when I learn something new…….and why I subscribe to this channel! Thx!🥰
Your videos are always interesting and informative. Thank you for all the hard work you and Steve do.
These are both such impressive pencil sets. You two are amazing for offering this opportunity to your viewers💙💜💚💛
Omgosh I've wanted the luminance pencils for soon long! Can never justify spending that kind of money though! Great battle!
I like these battle videos best. I wish there was an unlimited supply of art supplies to test and an unlimited budget! I love the detail you go into for the testing.
I love how your husband gets involved and shows lots of interest. So sweet ❤
Seeing the Lightfast swatches was super interesting and quite surprising. I loooove those dark greens and blues and I never noticed that the range is lacking bright and pastel colors. I just picked the most unique looking colors to add to my Luminance (as you said many artists do).
Speaking of, a video on the most unique colors from each brand would be interesting for those of us that can't justify buying the full set of each brand.
Because the lightfasts are meant for layering, so you don't need pastel colours :)
The most unique colors is a great idea!!!
@@demi3115 Didn't see this comment earlier but this argument is not well thought out. What colored pencils aren't intended to be layered? And if pastel colors are unnecessary because they can be achieved by layering, then why does the set even include more than a cyan, magenta, yellow, white and black pencil?
@@demi3115 the Holbeins have pastels and aren’t those meant to be layered? I don’t own them but that’s what I heard multiple TH-camrs say (about the layering).
Thank you Jennifer and Steve for all the work you both do to bring out these type of content! As someone who lives in a country where a single Luminance cost $6-7 and Lightfast even more so, owning either of them is honestly just a dream for me, getting to see how different the two brands compared with each other is extremely useful in getting a good judgment between those two beautiful brands. Thank you!💗
Where do you live? I have both sets but I still love my Prismacolor pencils and use them the most. These pencils are nice, but prisma’s are all you really need in my opinion.
I love how you make everything so easy to understand keep the great work up
Omg I’ve been wanting luminance for a month! I’d like to see luminance with prismacolors or polychromos
Thx for your vote for Prismacolors also! I recently received as a belated Birthday present and am having a blast applying them to my coloring pages. Finding they even work on the infamous Amazon printed books 😉
I see my luminance and lighfast pencils as complimentary sets. They work really well together and have different colour palettes
Agreed. I combined both sets into a large set. Lightfast are more muted tones and Luminance vibrant tones. I also don't notice a difference in barrel size when using them. They are different, but I expect that with different brands.
Totally this! I use mine for completely different types of art subject but they also work fabulously in companion with each other.
I would say, like many people, that the sets complement each other. Derwent Lightfasts have a better pallette for natura journaling, landscapes, wildlife, scientific illustration; also a greater ability to keep a point, which is useful in such drawings. They definitely lack good blues for flowers. Luminances have better blues, but worse greens. They also have lots of portrait colours. As far as quality is concerned both have their issues. Caran d'Ache Luminance have from time to time a pencil that is practically useless due to being really scratchy. LIghtfasts don't have such obvious issues, but their pastels are very waxy. So it's really good to have both sets.
Very interesting information. You do such outstanding job of explaining color pencil brand differences. Thank you for the videos.
Great job with the comparison I enjoyed and some good information! Thanks
Such amazing colors and superb battle! Thank you for the giveaway! 😍
Thank you!!! As always, great lesson& amazing information. One consideration might be the type of work you produce. One line seems more towards nature/landscape while the other “felt” more portrait. Either way-an awesome tool to add to your arsenal.
A fantastic video and comparison - thank you.
For sharpening the Luminance, I have a Jarlink electric sharpener. The opening states it is only for pencils 6-8mm, but my Luminance pencils fit just fine and sharpen with no problems for over a year now.
Thank you Jennifer and Steve for being this picky. 😁 I've learned a lot. 🙏
Thank you for doing this!!
Wow I'm suprised by difference between the luminance and lighfast. Thank you - your information is best for me. :)
I know I am watching this after it's main stream but I wanted to say something about the easy on the hands thing. As someone who loves to color but also suffers from carpal tunnel, those little extra things like having to twist a pencil more or applying a harder pressure to get the same effect can be more strenuous on the hands. I would imagine this could speak towards anyone with hand or wrist issues. Overall I was surprised by this battle. It was very close indeed.
First , thank for making he video, I know I'm a little late for comment. Luninance pencils are more opaque and that's the reason I went with Lightfast few months ago, no regrets at all, meaning I can build more layers with Derwent pencils to mix colors also a core a little bigger core. No doubt both pencils are phenomenal, high end both. My humble opinion Lightfast is the choice to make, the difference in price between them and the pros you brought to light, does not justify spending money on the Caran D'Ache if you getting Lightfast on a tin like I did, again my very own opinion. I'm not bashing Luminance at all, have their 40 set plus I don't like to see color crumbs on my paper.
You always make informative videos, thank you for your work, I've watching your channel for a bit, keep it guys! (including your husband 😀).
I really appreciate this video. I've been saving up for a really nice set of colored pencils, and I've been torn between these 2 sets for quite some time. I'm going with the Luminance... Thank you!!!
That was a great and awesome video too thank you so much I needed that, and it was fun to watch too , thank you for sharing it.😘
It was fun to see this battle between these two pencils. Both are extremely nice. I wouldn't ever be able to afford either one of them. But I really like the colors of the Luminance. I am super excited for the chance to win. Thank you for the chance!
I am so excited to see this and the giveaway is on my 50th birthday! Thanks for all your hard work!
Thanks for the comparison. I think the Luminance had more vibrant colors. That's what i gravitate toward. They are both , as you said, "diamonds". Lovely lovely pencils. oh, and Thank you for the opportunity to win the Luminance pencils!!
wow that was kool and good to know I have lumanance on my wish list to get one day , thanks so much for sharing this with us
That was a very interesting and informative test thanks
Thank you for all your hard work carrying out the pencil battle. I would also like to thank you for the giveaway, so very kind of you. As for the battle, I have been looking at both sets of pencils and was unsure which set to get. Thanks for all the information. Regards Helen
Very interesting. Thank you for this! i have all the Luminance, but yet have to try the Derwents. My Lightfast & Chromaflows should be arriving soon and can't wait to play around with them and try what you've shown us today. Thanks for the great vids and also for doing the giveaways. Awesome as always.
I have Chromaflow (24 set) and 5 open stock Lightfast only for a week. Firstly I noticed same names of pencils, than I compared them. I suggest you - try it 🙂
Wow! Would love to win these. They look gorgeous. Thank you for sharing with us.🥰🥰🥰
I’m totally not surprised lol. I can’t wait to try those Luminance pencils!
Thank you for doing this unbiased comparison. I do love caran d'ashe products. Im not surprised by the results, but the derwent packaging is very nice!
Love the derwent brand but luminance looks great to work with. Thanks for all the testing you do, you're my go to for all that info. Thanks for your channel!!!
I believe the paper being used and the lightness of hand plays a huge role in the outcome. I used both of my sets on Smooth Bristol and got different results. I bought Luminance based on this review and since I invested and tried them, I am not impressed. I like using smooth Bristol and even Prismacolor left fewer crumbs, layered better and did not cake up on it. My Lightfast left no crumbs at all and layered more times. It never did start caking and leaving clumps. Some pigments like the Oranges and Blues are also more pigmented and can get a darker value.
Great video! Both sets are gorgeous and fantastic to use. I just saw that the 100 Lightfast are now available in a tin (or will be soon). :)
Oh how I wish I had an art studio!! I would be happy to just start with those beautiful pencils!! 🙏🏻🙏🏻 🤞🏼🤞🏼fingers crossed for that BIG WIN!! 😍🥰🌹
I have both sets & love them both. I use the two sets together in pictures. I enjoyed this testing youtube video & the various aspects of the pencils.
Look at those beautiful colors, now I have to have both!😄😍😄
Love watching and learning
Hi Jennifer and Steve. Thanks for the great head to head. Which of the two brands is as creamy buttery as Prismacolor Premier? I have always wondered.
As a colorist with arthritis, easy on the hand is really important to me. So glad to hear that Luminance is better for that. I have 12 of each and much prefer the Luminance. I’d love the full set. I’ve entered the giveaway and am keeping my fingers crossed 🤞🏻 when not coloring.
Thanks for the video. I always learn something that I didn’t know before. You are a good 👍 teacher.👍👍💕
Steve and. Jennifer, Thank you for this great video. I LOVED the NitPicky comparison! As to further comparisons, I would really like to see Luminance up against the Faber Castell Polychromos. Polys are also very highly lightfast and have a great selection of colors and are great artist grade. pencils. In my area the Polys are less expensive than the Luminance and it would be. great to see if the Luminance are worth the extra $$. Also, it would be great to know how many pencils are the Excellent Lightfast grade in both sets as opposed. to lesser grades of lightfast. Thanks again! and Congratulations! on having the full set of the two very best color pencils in the world!!! Two last quick questions: Do you plan to put these two sets together to make one massive set in color order? If so, would you do a tritones set of Color Wheel all swatch pages containing both?
Lightfast are transparent and make better details. Luminance are more creamy and opaque. Lightfast have some great clean colors but I definitely prefer Luminance for the kind of painterly work I do.
Keep up the awesome videos 🥰
Very interesting video. I learn so much from your videos. Thank you.
I have some lightfast but no luminance so this was very interesting, thank you
Great information!
I would love to try these pencils I have never tried them before.
What an amazing wonderful giveaway. You 2 are also amazing. Loved watching the nitpicky comparison. I would love to see a comparison of the luminance against the polychromos. Thanks again for the chance to enter your giveaway.
I have always wondered how the luminance would feel like. Thank you for the chance to win these beautiful pencils. You and Steve are awesome. I love your videos and you are so thorough that I really trust your judgment. Thank you so much.
Excited to see this and thanks so much for the new score card page. Love your videos. but I admit I'm a lurker, not a commenter, for the most part. Thanks for the giveaway!! So exciting!
Can I just say... I love pencils that aren't coated, where you can see the grain of the wood? And the Luminance are just so pretty, the way they print all the information on them. It's pretty clear they're both REALLY high quality sets of artist pencils which is probably why they're SO close in quality! Speaking of which... have you tried Cezanne pencils, or Hippie Crafter's? Hippie Crafter has a set of oil based that seems ridiculously cheap- 72 pencils for a whole 25$
First, love the color of your hair. Found the comparison very educational. It seems to be preference, and price. If you don’t have a comparison like you did, you wouldn’t know. Enjoyed watching, your voice is very comfortable. Thank you. 🐾🌻🐾
Thank you. I've been trying to figure out which set to get. I think it's going to be Luminance.
Thank you for this video. 🥰 A vs Prismacolors would be interesting!
Thanks for the video! Both beautiful pencils 😍 Thanks for the give-away, I am sure somebody is going to be extremely happy with the luminance pencils! Good luck everybody🍀
Thanks again!!!
Great comparison
The Luminance are just such beautiful pencils 💜 but I feel that the Derwent are beautiful as well.
I thought that Caran d’Ache would be miles above anything else so was surprised to see the Lightfast set was so close. I’ve always been someone who just sees a set of pencils, a quick check on feedback and then buy (sets nowhere near this quality & price), then they’d arrive, I’d try them out and be quite disappointed. Watching you has made me realise there is so much more to colouring pencils. Like everybody else, would be amazing to win. Really appreciate your channel and the chance to win amazing pencils that would never be able to afford otherwise. Good luck to everyone 💕
Beautiful
Nice video. I really like what you said about you wouldn't be disappointed with either one. It's all so subjective when it comes to using them. I'm a Derwent girlio all the way! I use the Procolour, Lightfast, and Coloursoft all together along with my Prismas and a few Holbein. Many people would faint if they saw my storage system. lol
very good work lucky lady! I’m trying to decide and this has helped. What’s interesting is my few open stock luminance has metallic writing I had to write on the pencil what it was because I could not read it! Happy the big box isn’t metallic!
OMG...my favorite 2 brand of Color Pencils That I dreamed of
Great review!!!!👍👍👍
Very interesting! I do have more Derwent art supplies than Caran D'Ache supplies! I do like the softer Prismacolor pencils but that might be because of my college drawing experience.
I love my Neocolor II sticks the watersolublity is just so wonderful, I have several brands of Pastel pencils and the Derwent's are consistently good! Well I wish everyone the best of luck winning the giveaway I do hope more for myself, but that is just me being a bit on the selfish side. Sorry! Wonderful video and good job by you both!
I always love these but can never afford the price tag but they are my absolute favourites
I bought both sets from Cultpens in the UK and they were shipped to the US within a week. Watch for sales there.
I bought 2 sets of these consisting of some lose colors to decide which one I like most. I wish I hadn't for I have fallen in love with the colors of both sets. They are soooo freaking beautiful..!!I have the Polychromos and maybe their lightfast qualities of these are the best ( as they claim 80% have a LF1 bleu wool standard) but their colors feel a bit garish to me and some of their colors are a bit reluctant to be laid down on paper.
But yeah if you want the best color pencils in the world you should have both sets. They one I have are both so stunning 😍! Maybe the Luminence is just a bit easier to put down?
Jennifer, great video! I was wondering though……between the 76 and 100 set, what pencils are missing to make a difference between investing in one or the other. Is the additional cost for the 100 set worth the estimated $75 more for the 24 pencils? What is your thoughts……or anyone else? Thanks!
I haven't tried the luminance as yet as coming from a not U.S country, I would have to pay not only an arm and a leg but Im pretty sure a couple of toes for good measure lol and I have done my own mini head to head but with the Derwent Lightfast ( 12 set) and the Lyra Rembrandt Polycolor (24) and they are a close dupe for the Derwent lightfast they are very close and in some areas look almost as if its the same pencil, if you can do a video on comp pencils for the high end brands, as there are a lot of Artist like myself that are on a budget but want quality . Great vid btw very informative as per usual
Epic review and super helpful as I'm preparing to transition to lightfast pencils now! To add my nitpicky-ness, the Derwent wooden box joint is a finger joint, not dovetail (referring to your unboxing video). 😮😅
Your price difference is the wood box. This was a great review. I like when apples are compared to apples. My eyes could see why a professional artist might own both sets. It seems like Derwent colors are more earthy for landscapes for example wher CD appear more vibrant.BTW I'm just a hobbyist so my description might be off.
Has anyone done a 1:1 comparison of the full sets? I would love to know how they each fill the other’s “gaps” vs which ones color match. Another good video would be a similar color comparison if I was interested in adding some of either to my Polychromos set, rather than splurging for the whole set.
I love getting full sets of things because it is over all more cost effective but this would be invaluable information for those of us who have to slowly build our collections.
Great comparison.
Is it possible to test how they do for details like straight lines .. do they keep a fine line after drawing lines several time ? Thank you :)
I really love Luminance, especially for skin tones. I feel they are easier to use than Lightfast for portrait work, especially when I first started, but now I can use both properly but I "get there" faster with Luminance. I have to do a reverse rule of thirds whenever I use ANY oil dominant pencil like Lightfast (and even Poly Chromos) to get the best gradient transition. Meaning I start with the darkest tone first, then go mid-tone then go light and at the seams of the tonal transition I "scuff together" to blur the layer. Lightfast are more dominate oil so I do not find that they "blend" as well as Luminance but that might just be the way I do it. I noticed you did not use a OMS test. I love using OMS with Luminance. It works with Lightfast, but for me not quite as well as Luminance. Both are wonderful, but I love my Luminance best, but maybe it is just because they are one of the first pencil sets I bought and I got spoiled with them. As a rule I use them together, much like I use my Poly Chromos and Prisma together. I lay down my oil dominate pencils first and then I top layer with my waxier pencils. BTW the crumbs never bother me. I just sweep them away with a make up brush.
What is a OMS test.? 🤪
I second that question. What is OMS?
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The super dark lightfasts are great if you like shading botanicals. I picked them up open stock.
Great job❤️
I loveeeeeee DERWENT, I use my polychromos quite often but my Derwent are my favourite !
Subscribed your channel months ago and enjoyed your video very much! It would be interesting to see you compare Luminance to Holbein.
My personal idea on scoring the light fastness of a pencil should not be between if it had 1 high standard test or two but more importantly, how many of each individual colour score better, is more light fast and has a higher rating. Yes I'd be very interested in that result between these 2 brands. This was an excellent informative video. I especially liked seeing the colour swatches of each as which cemented my preference, of Luminance, as I prefer a more vibrant colour range. Thank you for such an in-depth comparison and the chance to win a FULL set of Luminance 💜🌹💜🌹
PS. I love....LOVE your hair colour💜💜💜
I would like to see the light fastness ratings of both.
They are both excellnt.
May I ask, does anyone know if the luminance or lightfast hold a sharper point for longer? And your experience which is better layering? And which you prefer? So sorry for the questions but would love someone’s opinion!!
I have both sets, interested in this video ! 🤔
Great content as usual. I was actually not surprised by the results. As you stated, both are good sets of which I hope to have completely some day. I currently have a few more of the Luminance than the Lightfast. Also in the intro, Rose looked as though she was recovering from a hangover after a long night of partying. She is so adorable.
I might be a little bit biased towards the Luminance pencils (the bestestest pensils in the world for me), but I actually don't like wooden boxes. Most of the time I am not keeping my pencils in their boxes, but when I do, I prefer sturdy cardboard over anything else. I simply don't have enough space to store something as big and heavy as the Derwent box. And if you'd just throw away the packaging, I feel like the cardboard is more easy on the environment. It would be great if you could choose if you want the wooden box or not and that would possibly mean the full set of Derwents would be a bit cheaper as well.
I think they also do them in a tin here in the UK
Could you compare oil pencils with oil pencils ? Because of the final texture.. oil is different of wax.. could you compare lightfast with Holbein ? Thanks !
Caran D'Ache on the black alcohol marker looks great. Would love to try doing a piece with them on a black paper! Thank you for the generous giveaway