How is the Lavos timeline Serge's fault? Theory!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.พ. 2019
- My first theory video! And this hopefully answers the question of, how did Serge cause the original Lavos destorys the world timeline.
All images used are from Chrono Cross, Chrono Trigger, or from the awesome site chronocompendium.com which has full timelines, pictures, and info. The character of Sailor Phantom is made by me. :D - เกม
Sounds to me like it's all Luca fault. What is she doing giving Kid who was a kid at the time a time egg.
Making bad decisions is what she was doing. That or she didn't intend for her to have the Time Egg, but had no choice? That's a whole 'nother load of questions.
But yeah, VERY bad decision on her part.
Wait..... you're right.
Cross was great, but it was an indirect sequel. We still have unanswered questions such as the Fall of Guardia, Dalton's rise in Porre, the Fate of the other powers like Medina and Chorus, the merged timeliness and fates of the original team, is Guile Magus with amnesia, and what is Lavos and where does he come from. Thus, you're absolutely right; a third game is necessary to wrap up the story and tie up loose plot points.
The biggest mystery concerning the Chrono games is why didn't Square Soft ever make a sequel
True but I always felt like they were scared to mess with perfection especially CT my God what a game I'm 40 and still playing it since all the way back when it came out
@@MrFaceNumeroUno Yes. Sequel or not CC is worse.
@@PAINNN666 Hahah yup it's my #1 fave game of all time and my #2 is FFT. In both cases i don't consider the other games from their respective series as true sequels. Although FFTA 1&2 were both waaaay better than CC imo. CC is ok-ish but didn't ever really capture me in any way. CT is the G.O.A.T imo. Been playing it since it came out. I still always have a save going. I'm currently on idk my 100th playthrough lol bout to go fight Magus for the "first" time lol
Good to see Chrono Cross is still liked and discussed even till now.
Indeed. Yep! I got another Chrono Cross video about Kid, and I'm working on on another.
2021 and hope is all we got. Hope they make a gacha mobile open world like genshin so it can fund itself
Remade on switch
I think it's simpler. When Serge is saved, it creates two worlds that share only one past. there's only one Crono (and the party) traveling on time from 1000 BC, so he can only go to one future (the one where Serge dies). So Serge's timeline has Crono in prehistory, antiquity, the middle ages and 1000 BC, but no Crono in the Day of Lavos or 2300 BC.
Wow, that is simple. Too simple for complicated time travel. MY mind is already trying to over-complicate it. XD
That's exactly what I've always thought
@@leroiducouscous0 That is why I I over-complicated it. Because the split happens at 1010 AD and not 1000 AD. But then the split also causes FATE to give people different paths, or not influence them at all. SO it could still work.
I think BEFORE Serge came in contact with the Frozen Flame, FATE could control/influence his life. But after, which caused the split, it could not.
Dalton used the Epoch when they captured Crono and Co. in Zeal.
They were just illusion made by Fate, not the real Crono, Marle and Lucca. They just say things to confuse Serge in Lynx body. It's all made by Balthasar's, it is his fault if Lynx attack the orphanage, with Fate he created puppets for the sole purpose of saving Schala. But i think no one is died because in the flashback you can't find Lucca in the house on fire, maybe she found a way to escape.
Yes except the "ghosts" are seen at Opassa beach at the end of the game too. And FATE was created to keep the saved timeline safe.
But yes, it seems likely that GATE would do that only to confuse him, maybe in hopes that he would give up and continue protecting the flame.
@@SailorPhantom I also like the theory Miguel = Crono. Fate drove him crazy and imprisoned in that time loop, there are 3 clues: red hair, light attacks and while he dies you see behind him the ghost of Crono holding his arm as if wounded. Anyway the real bastard is Balthasar .. lol he basically ruins everyone's life to save Schala.
@@hikkikomori1182 I actually LOVE that theory too!! I also like to think that Leena's mom is Marle. We never see her, just the grandma. So why not?? And Yes, Balthasar is the true antagonist. Not villain, but antagonist. All to save Schala. There HAD to be another way!!
It was Schala, her power surge, combined with Lavos power caused the raging storm, where she was sending her clone, timeline, she heard Serge’s cries and wanted to save him, wazuki was lead to the frozen flame, so was Miguel, fate went out for a small time but wasted no time to correct the defect, the Prometheus circuit, postulated by designating serge as the arbiter. Why did serge have to die? Because of Fate. Same as Crono, and Schala. Triggers of time. Three fates, three triggers, three eggs. Makes sense why Schala would want to save serge now
Oh yeah I understand Schala saving Serge, I was just pointing out that he got "lucky" in that respect that he was to become a Trigger out of all the other crying children of the world. Realistically... which is the wrong way to look at this. XD
@@SailorPhantom omg an author responded 🤩 I really enjoyed the video. I’m just super obsessed with Chrono lore I’m watching other peoples theories! Thanks for making these
@@garrys248 Same! So I love seeing other's comments, perspectives, and thoughts. :D And responding to them. I'm glad you enjoyed it! I am working on another theory video, I'm just stuck in actually making it. XD
Great video! I always felt that Serge was unfairly blamed by the Chrono Trigger cast too. I think they just wanted to have that moment of Chrono talking, and being edgy to the player, subverting their likely expectations of what he might say.
Thanks! :) Yeah, blaming Serge was definitely a stretch.
I mean, at best, he caused all reality to collapse in the ending. What a crisis.
I just realized the clown girl is Kid but with dragon essence
Lol I like how you animated that little "Ha!" in.
Thank you. ^_^
I know I'm 3 years late but hey thank you for this video anything involving Chrono especially Trigger is my catnip
It's never too late to comment! :D Same, which is why I made this. I'm working on another theory that's taking forever to do.
@@SailorPhantom any hints? Lol. Like ProJared said in his CT review, "Like a clock without hands, Chrono Trigger is timeless."
Couldn't have said it better myself and even though im not ashamed to say I'm 40 & I've been playing CT almost always have an active save going and never took more than a year away from having last played it since it came out and when I heard him say that it was so beautiful and hit me like a ton of bricks that I got misty eyed.
@@SailorPhantom and you've got a new subscriber 😁 well 3 new if you count my 2 birds Randolph and Lily, they like to watch things with me lol
@@MrFaceNumeroUno Sure, here's a hint, it's a surprisingly popular theory about Janus/Magus and Serge
@@MrFaceNumeroUno Aw thank you! ^_^ Hopefully I may continue to entertain! :D
I always thought that when the world was originally condemned in 2300AD & saved by Crono & co, it was ASSUMED that the NEW future would be a better one. The events of 2400AD surely proved that wrong & ended up not only condemning one timeline, but all time itself. Those converging (or CROSSing) in 1020AD. But why 1020AD?
Chronopolis' attempts to rescue Schala from Lavos ended up starting a war between Chronopolis & Dinopolis (from a future where Lavos never arrived), both hurled thru time. Chronopolis won, but left the FATE computer in a particular state. One of the Gurus tried to fix it from his current temporal residence of 1000s AD.
Serge is attacked by the Panther, sail into a temporal storm, finds Chronopolis & unwittingly comes into contact with something that permanently locks FATE out (somehow). Serge escapes (somehow). Desperate, FATE tries to gain access by using DNA close to Serge, & possesses his father (somehow), but it wasn't close enough. He morphs into Lynx as a result (somehow), & sets after Serge. FATE is satisfied with just drowning Serge.
FATE was programed to prevent Lavos from ever coming back, & Serge, having come into contact with the Frozen Flame, now has the ability to make that happen, even accidentally.
This is when Schala steps in. Reaching across time (still connected to a piece of Lavos) & pulls Serge from a timeline where this never took place, hoping that Serge is enough to help her human reincarnated self set things right.
Harle is Kid's HOME World self, altered by the Dragon Gods much like FATE altered Serge's father into Lynx. Harle's job? Defeating FATE & helping Dinopolis finally win the war.
All head canon aside, that's how I always saw this. Well, in a super simplified way. 😁
100% yes and love this.
the problem with it is that FATE is locked out of the flame in both worlds, which is why we have Lynx looking for Serge at the beginning of the game... and not only that, it dies. Lavos should have happened in both timelines by those standards.
@@danielberryjr007 Which is why it's "Serge's fault" yet again. XD
Great job Sailor Phantom!!
Very interesting and very confusing timeline
Yes it is.
Lynx led the porre army when they invaded kingdom of Guardia then it goes to cross when lynx orders the porre army occupation of termina wazuki tried to drown his own son as he turned to lynx thats how serge became Ghost boy to karsh wazuki was successful at drowning surge as a child making him Ghost boy
I always felt the blaming of Serge was about the Time Devourer still existing and Serge's existence somehow being connected. Possibly because he made contact with the Frozen Flame in the reality where he lives. None of which is really Serge's fault. Events were driven more by Balthezar and project Kid. Only he really knew the importance of keeping Serge alive and how it could affect the defeat of the Time Devourer.
When you boil it down (so much boiling!), Serge existing is the only way to save reality and destroy the Time Devourer once and for all, freeing Schala and letting reality continue. The game is super vague about what happens after this destined battle, but we are led to believe reality survived.
But who really knows? I just can't ever forgive Square for killing Chrono, Marle, and Lucca. The story didn't HAVE to go that way just to keep them out of the events of CC. Having El Nido exist in a pocket of reality (which oddly enough, Poore soldiers can enter) is enough. Dalton should have been defeated, Guardia should be standing, and the conflict with Poore should be the reason Poore is out in El Nido trying to expand. Ugh!! Just makes me so angry! But that's because I loves the games and the characters so much.
CC story just contradicts with CT story. Whole plot is pontless. Unless Dalton theory is true. It's only reason Serge to be alived.
Maybe because the intervention of Belthazar with the counter-time experiment +Serge touching the Frozen Flame +Time Devourer still existing in Darkness Beyond Time.
So Belthazar wanted to destroy Time Devourer because it was a risk for all the multiverse, so not destroying it would be the same as allowing Lavos and the Day of Lavos existing.
My Theory is similar to yours: Belthazar used Kid to revive Serge to create the new dimension, and this created an oportunity of Time Devourer interfere with this Dimension and bring Lavos Back(that would be some kind of Trap for it), and then Belthazar somehow predicted , kind of, how this story would go and use Serge to Create the Chrono Cross and destroy Time Devourer.
That's why LINX called him as Chrono Trigger(Time Trigger).
I truly believe that Miguel, father of Lena, is Crono, therefore he didn't die.
We do encounter trigger ghosts right before meeting him.
He is ginger with light magic and hell of a fighter!
i love that chrono cross is still alive
it will never die! MWHAHAHA! Seriously though, it is alive and well. ^_^
In all honesty wouldn't it be FATE's fault since it was the one allowed Lavos to keep it's future and fight against the Chrono group's efforts to change time and it fought against Serge's efforts to save Schala by creating the five dragon gods
Yes. But the game and it's characters seem to blame Serge, so this video is my attempt to explain that. Otherwise, yes, totally FATE's fault!
Though I'm pretty sure FATE was fighting to change the future BACK to it's saved timeline. But It's been a while and I need to double check.
It's an interesting theory
Spin off topics: a fangame's worth of story material ^.^
Ayla and Draggy going back to 650000000 BC
Mystic Mountain/Gaia's Navel
Porre receiving help from outside of time
also connections to Janus/Magus/Magil/Guile/Grobyc lol (confusing ik but this IS the Chronoverse after-all.)
-what if Magus was the help Porre got, but using his darker misanthropic side put into a robot like Belthazar and Prometheus, instead it was the "enigma" Guile was looking for, which he lost his memories of when he was separated, thus Grobyc is all of Magus' darker power weaponized in the Porre army's Black Wind unit, which bears his signature again... maybe a stretch but feels like something that got cut with the magus story from CC.
What happened on the Zenan Mainland with Radius, Garai, and Zappa (possibly what led to Glenn being named after Frog, also possibly tied to the above event.)
Serge cannot be named Chrono or Crono in game because they are two different aspects of the same essence, Serge being the reincarnate form of Crono who is the Chrono Trigger, guided by Schala/Kid to both reset and loop the timelines. thus why the timeline of crono was changed, because he stayed dead in the altered Keystone Timeline.
I would so read a fan fic of this. Or play the spin off game. :D The Magus is IS Grobyc a bit of a stretch, but it COULD work. If done right.
@@SailorPhantom Magus would either be Guile (Radical Dreamers) or missing in action, Grobyc would be an aspect of him; a byproduct, again similar to balthazar putting his consciousness into Prometheus/Robo. It's a separate entity, but same essence, i guess sorta like the whole serge is janus or crono (insert coin flip) concept minus the whole reincarnation theory.
an alt could be that Magus/Janus was turned into Grobyc(augmentation) , and Alfadore into Alf/Guile, but Grobyc would be way stronger if this was the case, unless his power went to the distortion which caused the alt keystone timeline. X.X sorry just seeing this and having coffee... lol
either way, I'm working on a fan-fic game so I will likely include it. ;)
@@parabolicroadhouseinc.542 NEAT!!
@@parabolicroadhouseinc.542 So much potential!! Huh, I forgot that there was a Chrono reincarnation thing. Oddly enough, I am working on a 'Is Serge, Janus' theory. Magus/Janus COULD still be Grobyoc if the amnesia was still a thing. Not realizing the true depth of his power or it's confined due to the programing maybe?
There's just so much possibilities for all this!!!
Are you saying that el nido or rather chrono cross universe itself is the result if chrono trigger events failed to defeat lavos?
If the Chrono team failed, "But the future refused to change" as it says in game. The Chrono Cross universe exists because they succeeded and allowed Balthazar into a good future where he makes Chronopolis. What I am saying, is how Serge COULD have affected events of the world causing the team to lose in an alternate timeline/universe... But I see how you'd get that as this is all very complicated and I even needed a bit to think this through properly.
interesting!
Basically the way I see it is timelines in CT and CS work a lot like 5D Chess with Multiverse Time Travel. What happens when a piece travels back into the past? An entirely new timeline in a different dimension splits off on it's own row, but if you look at that row? Nothing is before it. That entire parallel universe's history is a carbon copy of the original time line, but the parallel universe itself doesn't have a true history of it's own to "travel back to."
Assuming they're the same or similar enough? Basically Crono from 1,000 AD can only ever save Another World. Home World doesn't exist until Serge gets time egged and by the time that happens, Porre probably has either conquered or in the process of conquering Guardia--Crono and Co. don't have the liberty of going out to try and save the world twice.
Yes, this sounds pretty solid. :D Goodness I enjoy time travel discussion! There's so many ways to look at it!
Wouldn't the sun stone quest in chrono trigger debunk this theory? You place the moon stone in 65.000.000 b.c to pick it back up in 2300 A. D, if history practically stands still you could pick it up no problem, but when you get there it is gone because someone found it in 1000 A. D. Same for Fionas quest, you leave robo in 600 A. D to meet him again in 1000 A. D and he explaines that he learned a lot in the 400 years.
@@brotbrotsen1100 Not quite because 5D Chess time travel is very counter-intuitive.
If the act of placing the Sun Stone in the distant past did create a separate dimension, it's not that nothing could then act upon it after that fact. It's that if you tried to go back in time to nuke the Sun Shrine to make it so the Sun Stone never existed to be picked up by Crono in the first place? That this act wouldn't annul the prior separate dimension. What would happen is just that now you'd have three dimensions: 1 in which no Sun Stone was ever placed in the distant past and thus no one acted upon it; 2 in which the Sun Stone was placed in the distant past and the Mayor of Porre came and took it; 3 in which no Sun Stone exists anymore as it was destroyed.
To put it another way;
Yes, Lavos landed on the planet. Yes Lavos eventually rose and destroyed the planet. And yet in an entirely separate dimension Lavos never landed on the planet, the subsequent ice age caused by Lavos' landing never happened, the Reptites won, the Reptites in this dimension turned into the Dragonians and erected a structure called Dinopolis--AKA Terra Tower. The only way any of this makes sense is if separate, independent, dimensions exist.
I thought the Dead Sea was the jumbled mess resultant from the Time Crash that sent Chronopolis and Dinopolis back in time with the collision of many timelines.
It is.
But Serge also had an affect on what outcome came to the Sea of Eden. Since it was called the same thing until Serge visited it as a child when he was poisoned.
That make sense?
@@SailorPhantom I think that might've gone over my head while I was playing the game.
You have no idea. So much goes over your head the first or even several playthoughs. It's a bit complicated.
Honestly, the whole frozen Dead Sea doesn't really make any sense with the story, but it is a cool set piece so I can see why they decided to keep it in. The idea behind it is that Serge living causes Lavos to not be killed in 1999 AD, and so the post-lavos ruined 2400 AD gets mixed with post-Trigger saved 2400 AD where Chronopolis was originally built.
Which you would think that sounds good, but....
The very fact that Chronopolis now exists prior to 2300 AD, means Belthasar can't build it in 2300 AD. Nor will the original test that caused the Time Crash be ran again in the El Nido timelines. So if the paradox idea that the Dead Sea presents were true, Chronopolis and by extension El Nido could never exist. The timeline Chronopolis came from has to be completely separated from the timelines of Home World and Another World. The rest of the game also seems to follow this logic, as it explains why El Nido doesn't exist in Chrono Trigger, and it would also explain how Another World Kid using the Time Egg could create the Home World timeline by saving Serge.
TL;DR The Time Crash caused an entirely new timeline to be created. So what happens to Chronopolis after Chrono Cross shouldn't affect how it appears in Chrono Cross. So the whole Dead Sea thing makes no sense.
@@EpicFailureFive I think the video creator is on the right idea here. El Nido was meant to remain isolated and not directly affect the timeline. Any interaction with the outside world jeopardizes Chronopolis' creation and their goal of maintaining the "True Timeline" which we can see from the events of the Porre Military showing up in HOME. If Chronopolis is never built then the people of El Nido cannot exist but they do in HOME. According to Chrono Trigger logic this El Nido should cease to exist at any point that Chronopolis is not constructed but it doesn't. The best explanation I can come up with for why this happens is due to Enlightened Technology. It's the only reason why Crono himself doesn't get caught up in the Paradox. If Marle doesn't exist then Crono couldn't possibly go back in time to save her thus she wouldn't have affected the timeline in the first place which makes me think the Pendant is the only reason why Crono's group is immune to the paradoxical nature of their quest. This may also explain why the Arcadian Dragoons get locked in time in the Dead Sea if their protection from the Paradox is removed and they find themselves as ghosts trying to reconcile. The Time Crash I think is initiated by the Time Devourer in an attempt to absorb all of time and space. Due to all the paradoxical natures of each timeline the crash results in absolute chaos and destruction. Only the harmonic tones of the Reptite's elements can reconcile the timelines and restore order to the universes and as a bonus erase the paradoxical being that is the Time Devourer.
At least that's how I see it.
Lavos came from space how it could be his fault?
I like to think my theory explains that. Serge is not blamed for Lavos's fall, but it's success in destroying most of the world and humanity... according to the characters in the game.
Oh yes the group from trigger said that in chronopolis but it was quite confusing to imagine it, i mean serge was only a simple person living in a village he had no idea that lavos existed
@@Uryen_Hirasakai Exactly why I made this theory in attempt to explain HOW in the world it COULD be his fault. 'Cause honestly, its a bit crazy to assume it is. But that's the game for you.
@@SailorPhantom Yes it was very confusing i wished the trigger dream team would have made chross
@@Uryen_Hirasakai Oh if only! What a GAME we would have had. But it's only a dream.
@0:33 and if you've played Chrono Cross..it still won't make much sense.
The clues are hinted throughout the game. Serge had to die to become the entity.
No, the entity is the planet itself.
If Chronopolis never existed in nome world... how was el nido created, since it was created by FATE?
This is a fun one... El Nido exists, because Chronopolis fell during the time crash, which was before the dimensional split(Home world vs Another World created) so it was simply the World with El Nido and Chronoplis. The split however, caused it to distort and become the mess it is in Home World. So instead of the Sea of Eden, it became the Dead Sea. Thus it doesn't exist in the future yet manages to exist in the past and present so that El Nido may continue to exist.
Beyond that is more time theory stuff and paradoxes of it existing and the whole game just doesn't have the best rules of time travel. Because yes, it technically SHOULDN'T exist, yet it does. The above helps allow it to exist, since without it, Serge would never have been healed from the panther poison, and El Nido would never have been created either. It is a major paradox that I'm still trying to make sense of.
... I wrote 'exist' so many times it looks wrong. XD
I hope that helps, if not, who knows, maybe I'll figure something out a make a new video on that.
@@SailorPhantom you explain very well! (: I would love a series of videos exploring some of these major enigmas... not everyone has the guts to that xDDD
@@yurimoura6453 It'll take more research, which I've already started a while back I suppose, but maybe I will tackle it, at least a little. But first, I GOT to finish my other two Chrono videos!
Serge is Janus theory plz
Guile is janus/magus. Guile is named after and looks VERY similar to beguile, a main character from radical dreamers the first sequel to chrono trigger, which chrono cross is based of off and expanded upon. Beguile in radical dreamers is straight up said to be magus.
I'll see what I can come up with.
remember kids he magical he split him self into two serge an Guile Guile no memories serge new body
Interesting enough it was Kid who saved Home world Serge from Lynx while Another world Serge was drowned by Lynx, Yet you never see Home world Kid because she does not exisit due to the fact that Kid was never born she was created by Balthasar as a clone of Schala dubbed Project Kid, also it was Balthasar who gave Kid the time egg amulet not Lucca
Wasn't Lucca who gave Kid the time egg and the Schala's Amulet?
@@brunocardoso1512 no it was baalthasar that gave kid the time egg schalas amulet however was a gift from Lucca being that she still had it after the events of chrono trigger
So it's a back and forth tale where one path leads to the demise of the other?
More or less.
I assumed that there was only one kid because of Time Traveler's Immunity or something..... given who she is and what not.
That's actually what I discuss in my next theory, how there is only one kid and why.
@@SailorPhantom lol nice.
I think it's a hole in the storytelling. Murder implies some sort of connection, causality. The murderer has to do something, directly or indirectly to cause the death of the victim. I simply can't see that with Serge. That, or they were trying to be edgy and make the player feel like a sinner. But I never felt satisfied with any answer given in that regard, and the fishermen theory is no better than any other. I mean, why contacting the outside world would be the reason, if another world, where Serge is dead, also made contact with Porre?
I completely agree, no reason or explanation will justify calling Serge a murderer, even my theory. But I needed something, for that nonsense.
Fucking brilliant!
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No it's porre army's fault they invaded other side of zenon bridge eliminating Guardia which I hated but lynx led them a wazuki tried to drown surge it worked that's y he called Ghost boy by Karsh fate tryed to ask Lucca for help from chronoopolis but lynx caught on burning down Lucca's orphanage we were able to save kidd ashtears though thank God for that epoch saved every timeline from lavos so he shouldn't even b in Chrono cross how can something that destroys worlds b done it with just the song of life one hit kill and still b frightening I stopped it wasn't scared
Don’t get me wrong. Cross is a good game but man if they went with the simple traditional turn based combat like in the original.. I bet it would have done way better.
Yes. I agree wholeheartedly. They wanted to to something different. Not just another Chrono game, otherwise they'd have kept the same combat. Oh well.
Yes, that game so convoluted that it makes you question your own existence. Serge had to take the frozen flame to be reborn rapidly into his original form. Don't ask me where he kept his old clothes the whole time.
Truly!
His clothes I chalk up to game convenience. In a story sense... he's had an extra pair taken with him and set aside for that very moment.
You don't know what you are talking about, the frozen flame healed serge after he was attacked by the phantom demon, what made Serge reborn was the Dragon tear
@@Uryen_Hirasakai Panther demon and yes it was the dragon tear, not the frozen flame. I was just to tired and lazy to think much into it at the time. XP
@@SailorPhantom No problem my friend)
@@Uryen_Hirasakai excuse me for playing chrono cross on and off, blind. I forgot about the dragon's tear. I came to spoil myself since I stopped playing, and don't have the game anymore. Please don't kill me :(
They took one thousand ad from me I hate that
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Questions?????
It's not Serge's fault. It's the Chrono trigger team's fault for ruining the actual timeline. It was Serge's power who fixed the trigger team's blunder. Also it was Serge who saved Schala. While the Trigger game just ended without fixing something except for reviving Chrono near the end which isn't actually necessary to finish the game.
So depending on perspective, Serge FIXED the timeline in Cross to Lavos's 'rein', changed it back to it's saved one by the Trigger gang, AND saved Schala. Yes, I am good with this.
How did the Chrono gang mess things up?
@@seangray6131 Their time travel made lots of paradoxes in one which leads to the merging of lavos and Schala. Crono and his gang did not accomplish anything, they just delayed the inevitable doom. Yes they did save Crono from dying by exchanging his real body with a fake doll for unwittingly attacking lavos on the spot and got himself disintegrated. The prophet of time did his best to find a way to save Schala but was unsuccessful. Until Serge came along. And was chosen as the arbiter by accident, in short locking the super computer FATE from using the frozen flame. Since FATE wanted the controls back, it decided to make create a situation where Serge will be attacked by a lynx. This is where Cross differs from Trigger. Butterfly effect if I would explain it. At this point in time near opassa beach, is where Serge both lived and died. He was living in the original world but in another world he is dead. This is where the story takes place and continues. The game has many different routes that leads you on how you want to shape the game's story. It has multiple endings and branching storylines in which the choices you make will affect how the NPCs will interact. I won't spoil much but I would highly suggest that you give Chrono Cross a try. THIS GAME IS A LIFE CHANGING GAME, I ASSURE YOU.
@@PanginoongCockroach Oh I have played the game I still prefer Trigger over Cross Cross's story is way convoluted but it was enjoyable if you could peice the story together without it giving you a head ache one thing that about Cross's storyline that didn't make any sense was that apparently Lavos was warned about his defeat before hand and sent a piece or a aspect of himself back into the past to stop them this piece apparently became FATE which was the true villian in Cross
@@seangray6131 it's not complicated. Give the time to study Cross. It will become your bible. Cross shows you the consequences of your actions. Trigger is just about being a goody two shoes.
Balthazar literally destroyed everything by doing his experiments with time, he was in the timeline that was saved from lavos..........his thoughts must've been: "peace? Prosperity? Nah! We can't have that!!
XD Right! That and. "Who care about the world being saved, I need to save my princess for her gloomy brother!"
@@SailorPhantom crazy part is, as grief struck as Janus (Magus) was he eventually came to terms with not being able to save his sister and set his sights on destroying Lavos so it couldn't ruin the world anymore. Balthazar going crazy in the ruined future makes sense but the saved timeline he has no excuse for what he did and should be punished severely for his actions.
@@shadowgl9 YES! I honestly wished that he got SOME kind of punishment for what he did!
Personally I blame the development team for making a fucked up convoluted timeline....but at the same time I cannot help but smile to see them making actual time travel with consequences work so well many games would go "Lol time travel is cool and nothing possibly could go wrong!" and Chrono Trigger/Cross is like "Ok want to fuck with the natural flow of time? Lets see you go up shit creek without a paddle and see how that works for ya". Still this game a fucking mess trying to figure things out...I always assumed after the Time Devourer gets bodied everything no longer mattered as time itself was fixed and that every timeline was able to resolute itself and flow in their own rivers rather than intertwine with one another.
If you haven't played chrono cross good job keep it up God cross sucks.
Game is complete trash!