Never ceases to amaze me how a somewhat young man can have such information and is willing to share with whom ever. Yet not really ask for anything in return. We could all take a lesson. Thank you Clay.
I really appreciate this guy. He's got a kind face and a warm personality. Doesn't bullshit you with a bunch of "round the bush" talk, and really seems to take pride in what he does. Not often I see someone with the same passion I have for DIY
I also use a hack saw just to cut the nock depth and instead of grinding, I use a nail 1/8" heated til red and then burn the wood gradually shaping the groove what gives more strength by fire hardening the nock. After this, I put some epoxi glue around with a cloth line wraped to avoid the split
Just finished my first attempt using cane shafts. Most of what you did I learned the hard way but after the 3rd or 4th arrow making mistakes they turned out great. I even use the same idea as you marking the nock with red nail polish on the cock feather side since I use all natural turkey fletchings. You are my go to guy for making trad arrows and selfbows! Keep the videos coming.
Thank you for all the information sir clay.. we have a farm that is so big and im harvesting my own arrow shafts there like bamboo or wood branch. Im writing down all of your tips and apply your methods on every arrows i made.
The back yard bowyer uses the carbide blades for nocks too. 3River's used to sell a tool for self nock's too. There was one tool that you cut the slot opposite where you wanted the nock then you glued in a piece of hard wood,......then you cut the nock in,... the hard wood prevents it from splitting.
I know my brother is going to be making Shafts at some point and fletch them himself with either the Fethers of a Turkey or a Pheasant if not using some of the stiffer small nylon marking flag material for the feathers to try and replicate these old Rubber fletching on a few of the old Aluminum shafts he uses for his recurve bows. He wants these for his all fiberglass 60 pound draw English Longbow I got him off Amazon, he has as of this post now 6 arrows of cedar wood with field tips on them made for up to 70 pound bows.
I was taught to superglue a piece of bamboo skewer into the hollow of the shaft before sawing the nock for additional support. Maybe this adds too much mass for your foc?
Do you ever make arrows from natural wood shoots other than cane? I don’t know the type of plants in Idaho but I would assume you would have access to dogwood or viburnum
Hello Sir, I'm trying to look for the sinue thread but I don't know if I'm sleeping it right. If you can Please provide a link to where I can buy some I would really appreciate it. Thanks :)
Very nice. I'm tryin' like hell to catch up. Finally found a decent maple and a decent oak board to start making a couple of self-bows (and as a woodworker by trade, when I say "decent", I mean "freakin' good"). Got the vise last saturday, and gonna start roughing them out this weekend. Thank you SO much for the great videos. I once criticized you for asking for money on patreon, but now I get it...... So, this coming week I will be becoming a whitetail. You rock, man.
the nail polish to seal, and orient the cock feather is a good idea. i have sinew, and silk thread to use for bandaging the nocks, and tying fletching. made the mistake of bandaging the point too then realized it made pulling from my target a bitch. i'm upgrading to a foam target, hopefully that won't let it get stuck. i think my current target has carpet batting for the stuffing. it grabs shafts, and won't let go. have a whole sheaf of boo i been wanting to craft, but the nock was a curiosity. you been reading my mind. glad i don't need to cut horn inserts.
I'm in the process of moving from longbow to primitive so I'm going to build some self nock POC arrows. I shoot plastic nock wood arrows from my longbow. What happens after you've shot the self nocks for a while? Do the slots need built back up like you show'd with nail polish?
Home made arrows are dangerous to the shooter. Commercial arrows are cheap. A half dozen arrows will last for years. Build bows, not arrows. Get arrows with spines that are heavier than your bow.
@@micahwest5347 Of course you won't if you're lost in the woods. In a survival situation you are more likely to die of thirst than you are of hunger. In a normal situation you can buy arrows. If they aren't strong enough, home-made arrows can break and do permanent damage to your bow hand. Do you hunt now? Successfully?
@@tangobayus I’ve had commercial arrows break on me. I’d much prefer pulling bamboo slivers out of my forearm than have to deal with carbon fiber. If you aren’t comfortable or skilled enough to make your own arrows please find something safer to do. I am thankful to Clay for sharing his knowledge.
Never ceases to amaze me how a somewhat young man can have such information and is willing to share with whom ever. Yet not really ask for anything in return. We could all take a lesson. Thank you Clay.
Thanks Ed. There is an opportunity to contribute though if someone wants. I’m uploading exclusive bow building content to patreon.com/clayhayes
I really appreciate this guy. He's got a kind face and a warm personality. Doesn't bullshit you with a bunch of "round the bush" talk, and really seems to take pride in what he does.
Not often I see someone with the same passion I have for DIY
Thanks
That tip about the nail polish is genius!
thanks
I also use a hack saw just to cut the nock depth and instead of grinding, I use a nail 1/8" heated til red and then burn the wood gradually shaping the groove what gives more strength by fire hardening the nock. After this, I put some epoxi glue around with a cloth line wraped to avoid the split
Just finished my first attempt using cane shafts. Most of what you did I learned the hard way but after the 3rd or 4th arrow making mistakes they turned out great. I even use the same idea as you marking the nock with red nail polish on the cock feather side since I use all natural turkey fletchings. You are my go to guy for making trad arrows and selfbows! Keep the videos coming.
Thanks
That carbide blade was an awesome idea, should be making my own pretty soon
Thank you for all the information sir clay.. we have a farm that is so big and im harvesting my own arrow shafts there like bamboo or wood branch. Im writing down all of your tips and apply your methods on every arrows i made.
The back yard bowyer uses the carbide blades for nocks too.
3River's used to sell a tool for self nock's too.
There was one tool that you cut the slot opposite where you wanted the nock then you glued in a piece of hard wood,......then you cut the nock in,... the hard wood prevents it from splitting.
A good source for round blade is a tile coping saw replacement blade they can be found at any hardware store.
Very good 👍
I use carbide tile saw too .
Works very well
Yes it does!
Nice show as always...thanks Clay Hayes...always to learn something :)
Thanks
the great thing is that my mothertongue/language is not english but to get what u say is understandable
great info
Amazing Video thx Clay
Great! Thank you.
Nice.. !
Where do you source your cane shafts? Looking forward to part 2
Thanks for the video...
I’ll have them for sale on my site soon.
Great info.... Thanks. Nail polish is lacquer not acrylic.
I know my brother is going to be making Shafts at some point and fletch them himself with either the Fethers of a Turkey or a Pheasant if not using some of the stiffer small nylon marking flag material for the feathers to try and replicate these old Rubber fletching on a few of the old Aluminum shafts he uses for his recurve bows. He wants these for his all fiberglass 60 pound draw English Longbow I got him off Amazon, he has as of this post now 6 arrows of cedar wood with field tips on them made for up to 70 pound bows.
I need to figure out a way to make arrow shafts with all my recycled beer cans ; )
Let me know when you get that figured out!!
Heat and pressure buddy, heat and pressure.
melt em n make sum aro heds!
You could try casting shafts, possibly in sand or plaster.
I was taught to superglue a piece of bamboo skewer into the hollow of the shaft before sawing the nock for additional support. Maybe this adds too much mass for your foc?
you could certainly do that. a short piece wouldn't affect FOC too much. I seal mine off with a little dab of glue and file dust.
Is there any difference or reason not to put the nock against the node instead of of between them?
I am going to try this.What string do I use serving string?what glue for the points?
Always wanted to glue a piece of buffalo horn in an arrow, then turn 90* and make a knock.
Horn nocks are fairly common.
Yup, I didn't mean I invented it, just always wanted to try it.
I want that hat!
It’s made by Cascade mountain tech.
Do you ever make arrows from natural wood shoots other than cane? I don’t know the type of plants in Idaho but I would assume you would have access to dogwood or viburnum
I have in the past. I’ll do a video on shoot shafts some day.
is all this info available in the book?
Why do you cut the nocks so deep Clay?
So they stay secure on the string while hunting.
Hello Sir, I'm trying to look for the sinue thread but I don't know if I'm sleeping it right. If you can Please provide a link to where I can buy some I would really appreciate it. Thanks :)
3Riversarchery sells sinew. It real sinew doesn’t come in thread or string form.
@@clayhayeshunter ,got it . Thank You :)
Very nice. I'm tryin' like hell to catch up. Finally found a decent maple and a decent oak board to start making a couple of self-bows (and as a woodworker by trade, when I say "decent", I mean "freakin' good"). Got the vise last saturday, and gonna start roughing them out this weekend. Thank you SO much for the great videos. I once criticized you for asking for money on patreon, but now I get it...... So, this coming week I will be becoming a whitetail. You rock, man.
That’s awesome, thanks. I think you’ll dig the stuff I’m posting there.
the nail polish to seal, and orient the cock feather is a good idea. i have sinew, and silk thread to use for bandaging the nocks, and tying fletching. made the mistake of bandaging the point too then realized it made pulling from my target a bitch. i'm upgrading to a foam target, hopefully that won't let it get stuck. i think my current target has carpet batting for the stuffing. it grabs shafts, and won't let go. have a whole sheaf of boo i been wanting to craft, but the nock was a curiosity. you been reading my mind. glad i don't need to cut horn inserts.
Yea, inserts are mainly aesthetic in my opinion.
Where can I buy that yellow vise?
It’s a little Stanley ball vice.
Have you ever made flu flu arrows by any chance
sure, just fletch with full feathers. I use them for squirrels.
I'm in the process of moving from longbow to primitive so I'm going to build some self nock POC arrows. I shoot plastic nock wood arrows from my longbow. What happens after you've shot the self nocks for a while? Do the slots need built back up like you show'd with nail polish?
I guess it depends on the shaft material. POC is a little soft so it might.
Urkc
Home made arrows are dangerous to the shooter. Commercial arrows are cheap. A half dozen arrows will last for years. Build bows, not arrows. Get arrows with spines that are heavier than your bow.
That makes absolutely no sense.
Where do I find commercial arrows in a survival situation?
@@micahwest5347 Of course you won't if you're lost in the woods. In a survival situation you are more likely to die of thirst than you are of hunger. In a normal situation you can buy arrows. If they aren't strong enough, home-made arrows can break and do permanent damage to your bow hand. Do you hunt now? Successfully?
@@tangobayus I’ve had commercial arrows break on me. I’d much prefer pulling bamboo slivers out of my forearm than have to deal with carbon fiber.
If you aren’t comfortable or skilled enough to make your own arrows please find something safer to do. I am thankful to Clay for sharing his knowledge.
@@micahwest5347 Are you sure the commercial arrows you have been using are strong enough for the bows you are using?