SAR Red Devil and Class 25 Condenser 1986.

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  • @drawingboard82
    @drawingboard82 7 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    tremendous. I love the way on the condenser it doesn't "chuff". You can clearly hear the steam turbine driven draft fan in the smoke box whistling like a giant turbo.

    • @samanli-tw3id
      @samanli-tw3id 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      drawingboard82 It does chuff but it's muffled.

    • @Jo52Da
      @Jo52Da 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@samanli-tw3id Chuffing but not up the chimney but back to the condenser.

    • @Jo52Da
      @Jo52Da 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think the turbine sound comes from the five turbine fans on the condenser.

    • @miriamlana833
      @miriamlana833 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Howling like a jet airplane instead of chuffing like a steam train.😃

    • @tomankt
      @tomankt ปีที่แล้ว

      @@miriamlana833 Like a diesel locomotive... Especially when starting a train

  • @Adventurescot
    @Adventurescot 12 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Great stuff, thanks for posting. I know both these locos extremely well having been a fireman in Kimberley for years. i was the very last fireman to work the Condenser in 1992. She has never worked since, very sad.
    Thanks again

  • @UFEZELA
    @UFEZELA 7 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Magnificent footage of two outstanding and unique locos - let's face it - South Africa led the railway world with it's huge variety of classes and at the time our railways were also the arteries that kept our financial lifelines at a peak. Wish it were possible to return to those great days...

    • @Isochest
      @Isochest 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      South Africa is a land of plenty for all. Without discrimination. Mining interests have sought to tribally or racially divide people but all South Africans are entitled to their land and its resources.

  • @normansilver905
    @normansilver905 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The Condenser concept truly worked well. I often wonder why the US railroads never gave it a try in the arid US regions. I still marvel at just how well the SAR steam fleet performed and was maintained. Thank you for this sharing this video. Love the content and how it was filmed.

    • @Jo52Da
      @Jo52Da 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It did work well but I think the maintenance on these locos were quite high especially on the smoke box fan.

    • @phantomsoldier497
      @phantomsoldier497 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jo52Da maintenance is actually lower on this trains because condensing water removes the corrosion and scaling problems but it's not worth the cost of the system.
      Steam trains were very cheap to run thanks to low price of coal.
      If you have to pay high upfront costs, diesel is much better

    • @WAL_DC-6B
      @WAL_DC-6B 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Perhaps the nearest thing the U.S. railroads used to a "condenser locomotive" was the Pennsylvania Railroad's, single S2 steam turbine, locomotive #6200.

  • @SantaFe5811
    @SantaFe5811 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Terrific video all around. Though, the scene at 2:25 is absolutely remarkable

  • @Huttworker
    @Huttworker 11 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    So, thats a 25C in action, I'm impressed. Quiet and no fuss when going about its business. The condenser seem to loom larger and would swallow the locomotive.

  • @foreversteam
    @foreversteam 12 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I love this video! I think it is an outstanding piece of footage - Your hands were pretty steady.
    I prefer my steam videos with minimal editing anyway - there is a sense of realism having footage that has not been done up with floating menus etc.as it sometimes can distract from the content.

  • @XMarkxyz
    @XMarkxyz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It is truly a shame that no condensing engine hs been mantained in working order, at least one would deserve a good restoration for how rare they are

  • @samanli-tw3id
    @samanli-tw3id 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    2:13 Think you see a steam locomotive , but hear a jet aircraft!

  • @devotions9192
    @devotions9192 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautiful!
    Brings back memories of "Mindae Louis..."

  • @struck2soon
    @struck2soon 12 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great soundtrack from the car, sounds like you were pacing a Boeing 747!

  • @lancewalton4807
    @lancewalton4807 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    JUST LOVE THAT STEAM.

  • @Sowerbylads
    @Sowerbylads 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Superb video, thanks for sharing. Brings back happy memories of the 1991 steam festival. 3511 was probably the most unusual loco anywhere in the world.......

    • @brucewilliams8714
      @brucewilliams8714 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I, too, have happy memories of the 1991 festival. Sitting on the platform edge at Modder River watching the evening parade of steam. Then, in the following days, chasing them up and down. Ah, great days.

  • @mwrify
    @mwrify ปีที่แล้ว

    love this, always been in awe of these condenser loco's, sounds like a jet plane when running at speed. Its a shame that they converted most of them to a conventional locomotive.

  • @trevormaxwell8134
    @trevormaxwell8134 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very nice and impressive 😅😊

  • @G0IMB
    @G0IMB 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Efficient steam traction at its best. What Western Europe missed out on!

    • @omepeet2006
      @omepeet2006 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep, they tried to be "modern".

    • @samanli-tw3id
      @samanli-tw3id 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      G0IMB Western Europe tried all-steam turbine locomotives but they didn't prove efficient.

  • @Isochest
    @Isochest 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lovely Express steam action.

  • @44ssspoptop
    @44ssspoptop 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love steam trains

  • @stephensmith799
    @stephensmith799 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating locomotives!

  • @volodymyrrhapon5666
    @volodymyrrhapon5666 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This steam is very interesting.
    Without ,,puf puf" .

  • @Gostek676
    @Gostek676 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Piekna Historia! Pozdrawiam

  • @oliverblatchford2780
    @oliverblatchford2780 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant, thanks!

  • @stoffelsmith2921
    @stoffelsmith2921 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Het as kind baie op hulle gery tussen watervalboven en watervalonder was my lift om te gaan swem het by die waterval

  • @vasilekasapul
    @vasilekasapul 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome footage!BIG LIKE!

  • @sydneymartin6941
    @sydneymartin6941 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn Maar die lokomotief kan hardloop So mooi Enige motor sal sy wiele moet optel om by te bly Baie mooi

  • @1430-s2v
    @1430-s2v 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    where are the days wow

  • @dfwjac
    @dfwjac 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sounds like a tea kettle at the beginning!

  • @hosdo
    @hosdo 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    FFS it sounds like an electric! Awesome footage!

    • @samanli-tw3id
      @samanli-tw3id 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lorenzo Pantani More like a jet aeroplane.

  • @Intekom12438
    @Intekom12438 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, wow, wow !!!

  • @trajan231
    @trajan231 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    was this before or after the 1986 Cape Venturer steam excursion? I remember hearing that was why the Red Devil was painted blue.

  • @janmalan8204
    @janmalan8204 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    n wonderlike stoomreus mors geen stoom nie word na agter geneem verkoel die stoom sit om in water en word weer gebruik seker een van mees gevorderste stoom reus wat daar was pragtig manne ek verlang weer terug na my jare as jong man

    • @omepeet2006
      @omepeet2006 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And you know what Jan, the Germans used the same kind if condensers (on 2-10-0 goods engines) in the early 1940s, for the same reason: extended range. Can't help wondering what Red Devil would have been like with a condensing tender...

  • @sirgresley6007
    @sirgresley6007 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    how many coaches was the class 25 pulling

  • @IoanBojan
    @IoanBojan 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Which presure is in its boiler?

    • @Tyconniendu59
      @Tyconniendu59 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      15,5 bar for a Class 25 and Red Devil too

  • @Nathan93Baker
    @Nathan93Baker 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Never knew we had turbine locos. Were all class 25 'condensers'?

    • @Jo52Da
      @Jo52Da 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not turbine locos but the smoke box had a turbine fan and the condenser 5 steam driven turbine fans for cooling the steam exiting the pistons. Otherwise normal steam locos.
      Not all 25's were condensers, we had 25NC's (non condensers) and later on the Condensers were changed to non condensers recognisable by the round top of the water tank. The were called "Worshonde" because of the round tops of the tank.

    • @brucewilliams8714
      @brucewilliams8714 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jo52Da I saw many of them but didn't know their 'sausage dog' nickname! Very apt.

  • @Tyconniendu59
    @Tyconniendu59 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video !
    Was "red devil" already de-modernized at this time ?

  • @jacobditmars8414
    @jacobditmars8414 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Personally, I wonder what all it would have changed if one of the 25s got modernized like 3450. Probably would have eliminated their problem of damaging their fans with particles of unbernt fuel, but what else?

  • @stoffelsmith2921
    @stoffelsmith2921 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bly maar mooi wens hulle kan trug kom

  • @АлександрЛапченко-н4е
    @АлександрЛапченко-н4е 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Steam roller

  • @thejdmguru621
    @thejdmguru621 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sounds like a diesel 🤣

  • @halumi2002
    @halumi2002 ปีที่แล้ว

    日本と全然違う。