"I didn't realize fallen fans actually fall and hit their heads." She does not fuck around when it comes to Ethan man, she goes full fucking savage. I love it so much.
@@kittencuddler1072 Hila is honestly just so dope. She's a great example of the fact that coming into your own style and confidence and finding your voice can happen at any age or time in your life. & on top of everything she's accomplishing all this growth in front of an audience of tens of thousands. I'll say it again, she's SO dope.
Ethan is 100% guilty for being totally vulnerable & open about his medical anxiety and using comedy to get through something that genuinely worried him. Shame on him!
@@theotsouvallaris6038 The person in this video is essentially saying these things about Ethan. He obviously isn't straight-up saying that Ethan is a bad person for being open and vulnerable and helping people, but instead what the dude is doing is implying that the "harm" Ethan has done has somehow negated any good he has done. The person is basically saying; "Ethan does a lot of good for his fans and has been very open about his fear of having lupus. But that makes him a bad person because he isnt sure if he has it yet."
~*~ as a disabled woman~*~ I actually found Ethan's dogged pursuit of the truth with regards to his symptoms very important for the audience. No, he didn't end up having lupus, but he listened to his body, reached out, got help, and tried to figure out what was wrong with him. We should all of the mindset that going to the doctor is not a bad thing, and it's always better to listen to your body and try to understand it then just being miserable and getting sicker. An important lesson that was lost in the shuffle a bit! Edited to add: It is much better to be cautious, go to the doctor, and find out that nothing is wrong with you than to not go to the doctor and realize later down the line that something was wrong with you and you missed your window or best chance to treat it.
@@syrupthemcheeks335Jake buddy, these throw away accounts aren't doing anything. You want to be so mad but Ethan hasn't done anything wrong. So its just really ironic to publicly critique someone when you yourself are guilty of what you're claiming Ethan is guilty of.😂
It took my mom over 16 doctors appointments, doing her own research, and demanding they test her for lupus to finally get diagnosed with lupus. It took years. Ethan doing his own research and experiencing medical anxiety is all so valid.
Exactly! This happened to me with multiple diagnosis and multiple doctors asked me if I feel like being a bit of a hypochondriac. All that only to find out I have a heart condition, tumors in my chest, sleep apnea and adhd. If I didn’t do my own research, listening to my body and trying to understand what is wrong so I can explain to health providers better - I would not have any clarity about my health and wouldn’t be able to solve the issues. It’s so sick that people try to clown on those trying to find medical clarification and trying to educate themselves
That's what I kept thinking about during Dr Doolittle's video. Every person I know with an auto immune disorder had several doctors misdiagnose then for years before they came to something that made sense. He even admits that's often how it works but somehow Ethan looking things up is bad?
No literally I’ve been going through same shit the last few years and doing my own research and advocating for myself is the only thing that progressed me to get treatment
Also the fact he’s minimizing things like eczema and hypochondria. Like wow it’s only “eczema”, when eczema can be severe and cause self image issues and discomfort. The ppl who go through steroid withdrawal is so brutal. And jake is gonna act like Ethan’s faking when there were so many podcast where no offense to Ethan but he physically looked very unwell with the rashes and patches and trying new ointments and all of that.
Jake basically saying Ethan couldn’t have Lupus because he doesn’t fit the most common demographics and then later saying that he himself is living proof that you can still have something despite not fitting the typical demographics (positive ANA titer for Lymes) is insane.
so ethan’s crime here is: worrying and speculating on his health, using the internet to try to understand his symptoms, and sharing his worries with those around him?
As a medical resident, shame on Ethan for being anxious about his own health and for not knowing the ins and outs of autoimmune disorders and their corresponding labs 😞
as a chronic illness girly, the lupus saga brought me so many giggles. I HATE that he's a self-declared spokesman for all chronic illness folks. Good for you for running a charity babes, you don't speak for me. I'm a carer in addition to managing my own illness so I don't have the time or resources to do such a thing. I thought that was something you do because you care about people and not wield it as some sort of credential? It's giving white knight.
THIS. like omg haven’t i suffered enough? there are millions of ppl w chronic illnesses, how could you speak on the behalf of everyone? we need representation, not just a singular representative who thinks they know all.
And it’s relatable. Having to go through all these referrals and specialists, and waiting for appointment openings and labs while you know something is wrong is so frustrating and anxiety inducing, so hearing a person with a big platform not only talk about it, but also joke about it is fun bc it’s relatable and helps us not take it all so seriously. And it’s validating to see another person go through it and making light of it.
You're 100% on point, and tbh I think that if he actually cared about this topic he wouldn't be so ready to throw around his "connections", his charity that he's been alleged to be scalping money from, or his own autoimmune disease. This whole video felt like a temper tantrum because the crew and, by extension Ethan, didn't notice him and make him the main character in all of their lives. It was petty, mean spirited, bad faith, and at times absolutely idiotic. All the hallmarks of a spiteful and hateful attack out of some twisted idea of revenge.
Thank you for putting that term back in my vocabulary, fellow chronic illness girlie!! I was trying to find the right word for it and it's absolutely giving white knight! Hard agree, I got diagnosed with MS almost three years ago now and chronic illness attacks everyone in a different way. For someone to say to one of the creators that got me through my diagnosis that he's "profiting" off of chronic illness is so far fetched, even my swiss cheese ass brain knows that 🧀 🧠 😭
He was obviously butt-hurt about not being able to get in with the crew and this eventually festered into a resentment that bubbled over the edge when Ethan started talking about stuff that hits very close to home for him. Hope he gets some help cause that is some seriously unhealthy mindset to be living in. I have several autoimmune diseases/conditions and it took me years to get one of them diagnosed. I hope Ethan gets his answer soon and finds a treatment that works for his current symptoms and to prevent any other ones developing.
spot on. He just thought fuck it, ill join the ethan klein hate train. This is OBVIOUS by the fact that Ethan klein self diagnosing is OFFENSIVE AND EVIL AND CANCEL. But then he LITERALLY DOES THE SAME THING. He says that Ethan does not have Lupus, he just has eczema. Like, he did not care about the offensiveness, he just saw a chance to get money and failed hard, and shown himself to be a hypocrite LOL
@@bas_ee ya and now he's arguing with people in the comments of this video on throwaways trying to get them to feel bad for him "being bullied" Either that or there are people way too invested in fighting his case over several hours of commenting 🙈
Im better. I just randomly got type 1 diabetes and I got diagnosed in 5 min in The ER. Diabetes is an autoimmune disease. Sorry but sucks to suck. 5 min diagnoses time boiii
The whole “this disease primarily affects women/men” to dismiss a possible diagnosis is so harmful, especially for autoimmune diseases. I have spondyloarthritis which primarily affects men, but I’ve found a whole community of women with this disease that doctors have written off for YEARS simply because they weren’t men. This type of thinking is exactly why some autoimmune diseases take so long to get diagnosed.
Omg this! Unrelated to what im about to say, but Ive had Crohns Disease and Autoimmune Hepatitis since i was 4 (22 now). But anyways I recently went to my regular doctor (not GI) and told him I was having some heart palpitations so we did an EKG. It came back abnormal and he literally walked in and said "If you werent female I would send you to a cardiologist" he called it "Female heart syndrome"......like bro what the fuck ? 😂 now he got me all worried so I'm going to a cardiologist anyways for a real opinion lmao literally what is the difference between a male and female heart ?! Dumbest shit Ive heard from a DOCTOR🤦♀️
honestly feel like there are so many conditions that “”primarily affect”” men when in reality doctors just won’t take women seriously. my sister and i are both autistic, but only i have a diagnosis, even though we have almost the same symptoms and the same genetic link to it, it’s ridiculous.
exactly especially when we've literally seen how this plays out with things like breast cancer. Thankfully we're moving in the right direction but it used to be talked about as something for women to worry about exclusively, when men very much can and do get it, but can sometimes ignore warning signs or just not know them due to being conditioned to think "ah that's not for me to worry about."
My aunt died after battling MS, hers was not diagnosed for years because they called her a hypochondriac, by the time they diagnosed her it was so severe she ended up losing her sight, her ability to walk, and eventually she was in a vegetative state. If only they had taken her seriously and didn’t tell her she was a hypochondriac
I’m so sorry to hear this :( people like this guy calling others who have genuine anxieties about their health are hurting others in the long run. Women exponentially more so because we deal with medical professionals denying us genuine healthcare in the gist that we are over reacting or are hypochondriacs or that there is nothing wrong. We women still experience this to this day, your aunt is a testament to that awful fact. This guy became obsessed over Ethan and the crew and decided to use the most harmful way to get back at them but this way of thinking can hurt others in the process. Funnily enough, this dude is actually the hypocrite he accuses Ethan of being.
H3 pulling up dm’s of Jake harassing the crew and being extremely persistent about Ethan hiring him is so EMBARRASSING. Jake didn’t think this through, did he not assume they would mention how hard he rode for the podcast before dropping such an outrageous hate video? Terrible fucking take, Dr Doolittle
@@darkwebgirlso if you call someone crazy for sharing THEIR own medical experience on THEIR platform, when they respond they’re harassing you? what’s the weather in delulu world like today baby?
“He’s self diagnosing” ok but why are we shaming healthcare anxiety. As someone who has suffered through health anxiety it’s frustrating when someone invalidates your feelings and says oh you’re fine. Anxiety is real no matter what it’s about. Ethan has every right to feel the way he feels.
^this! I feel like they didn’t discuss, but being a “hypochondriac” without an obvious gain is just… anxiety. Which is also valid. I describe myself as a hypochondriac but it’s an offset of my extreme obsessive anxiety disorder 🙄 and it’s not something I choose either. I worry about things sincerely and authentically, but usually it’s not as bad in the end. It is not something I enjoy. It sucks for me too.
@@OpalLeighRight! My abusive ex accused me of not having PMDD when he was in the room when I was diagnosed. Talk about gaslighting. If it was a misdiagnosis even I would have been unaffected by medication or become manic, which didn't happen. I'm a hypochondriac apparently but he avoids doctors like that will make it go away which is being paralyzed by health anxiety. He's a hater ass bitch in not a good way, a jealous malicious way. And I tried very excruciatingly to help him realize he has OCD, not try to make him feel crazy and tear him down like that
Ethan, I spent 16 years waiting for an accurate diagnosis. Those few months of your raw reaction to lab results and the insight look into what it’s like to WAIT, feel so confused and unsure, having doctors throw you around with no real answers- SO REAL. I had a million “normal” or “on the cusp” lab results before my condition was finally uncovered and diagnosed by a world renowned rheumatologist. There’s a reason why chronic illness often goes undiagnosed for YEARS. And to see a comedian process that experience of uncertainty and be able to add funny commentary, felt so healing and relatable. As someone with chronic illness and autoimmune issues, I literally could not finish the segment because of how angry Dr Dolittle made me. Honestly it just triggered me how he managed to so severely stigmatize chronic illness further under the false pretense that he is an advocate for chronic health. He clearly isn’t.
I’m so sorry for all you went through! And that’s what got me too - that Jake is someone who knows how hard it is to get a diagnosis and he’s mocking and belittling Ethan on his process to figure out if it really is a condition that he has. What the actual hell
I'm currently trying to find an answer to my symptoms and lab results, i've been going to a rhumatologist for 3-4 years now still with no diagnosis, i have chronic fatigue, i used to get butterfly rashes (luckily it happens way less often now), and other issues. I'm still lost and looking for answers, my mom has been misdiagnosed a few times, I think she has lupus, but for sure my sister has been diagnosed and my uncle. hoping I can get answers someday!
I am so sorry that you've had to go through that! Thank you for speaking out, it really adds perspective to how messed up/mean spirited Jake's video truly is
Jake is giving major obsessed stalker vibes and it's scary. Obsessions can often become hateful too so it's not that surprising he turned on you guys 🫠
Ya, those DMs should be a lesson on how weird you look if you act familiar with people you watch on TH-cam whom at this level might as well be considered famous.
frrr, i watched his video where he collabed with drew gooden bc i love drew and the vibes felt off. like drew wasn’t as close as friends with jake as jake made it out to be, it was awkward. like jake was an obsessed fan
I can't wrap my head around the fact that Jake said his own father didn't believe he had lyme disease and has a lot of trauma surrounding that and then does this.
Yeah, Jake has been slipping from ironically mean and hateful to actually just mean and hateful. I used to watch most of his videos, but lately I find myself not liking how mean he is to people who don't deserve it, or even mean to people who do deserve it, but in a way that causes innocent people to catch strays. Like he'll diss someone's appearance repeatedly in a way that shames anyone who looks similar, without ever qualifying it like Ethan always does when he says things like "we love our short kings". No love from Jake these days. Basically, Jake went from sweet and fun to hateful over the course of his main channel's popularity, and it sucks. I hope if by some weird chance Jake reads this, he takes it as constructive. He is creative enough to make good content, and caring enough to be more compassionate with his language and criticism. I'd love to see him make a turn around back to being driven by a good cause and fun, creative content.
In all seriousness when we age, if our childhood traumas are not addressed, it’s not super uncommon for people to fall into the cycles that they were victim to as children themselves.
"Just be sick and fuck off." Made me laugh so hard. This dude is WILD. The audacity to act like you know Ethan's health issues more than Ethan and his doctors. Also Jake definitely comes off as obsessive towards the whole crew. Very weird.
@@squirrelgod598 Calling a person a "dum beach lou ser" over and over and over, telling them to "go be sick alone", to "talk to rocks", that their career is over... H3H3 fans love that vitriol so much they actually pretend it's normal to rationalize it
@@squirrelgod598 I haven't made a single suggestion to what Ethan has or likely has, all I can do is quote his words about what his doctors said and their provisional diagnoses, like "eczema", which people pretend came from Jake when it was actualy Jake saying what multiple of Ethan's doctors had said
@@syrupthemcheeks335 damn are you Ethan’s doctors? Do you know his health? Got all his check up notes? Ethan mentioned stool sables, have those results came back with eczema results yet, doctor sir?
@@inmyworldkindagirleven if he wasn’t dyslexic, people don’t always have access to adequate education and speak however they speak. i absolutely hate people being picky about grammar when everyone didn’t grow up with the same learning resources. it’s scummy to assume and if you understand them, just act normal and be kind.
@@murderotica_I suppose there’s a chance he had a script bc Dan has one for excel for super chats considering TH-cam doesn’t log them after they’re timed out 😅. So hopefully he had a script, bc if he didn’t, that’s genuinely stalker behavior 💀
As someone with a chronic health condition, seeing Ethan go through his struggles to find a diagnosis has actually been really great for me. I still struggle with symptoms and doctors shrugging their shoulders and saying “we need to run more tests” it sometimes gets too much. But seeing Ethan deal with his issues with lots of humour makes me feel better, and in a way, seen & understood. Fuck Jake’s video, fuck that he’s gatekeeping chronic health conditions and how someone ‘should’ deal with it. My sick body loves the H3 podcast.
I am in the same position right now, and my mom has lupus. At this point I don't really care what it is I just want to know so I can feel better. I can't manage to laugh at my own situation, but when Ethan got his positive ANA days after I got mine fuck did I laugh to tears. I hope you find answers soon, and I'm glad we both have this outlet! Peace & Luvv
yeah, i had a crazy journey of a lot of pain and lab work to finally pin down to chron disease, it's a very scary process! every disease comes to head and i legit tought i would die, but now im sympton free and responding amazinly to the treatment!!
@@arthurmmrthis!! I think the version of jake that went through that painful journey at 12 has changed into an angry clout chaser😞also i am so glad you figured it out!!!! So so happy for you! I’m still on my journey, and my neighbor had krohns too so of course it was the first thing i thought i had loll, but nope, it wasn’t that, and it wasn’t sjogrens or whatever, so now they think it’s a blood disorder or autoimmune🙄 lol again, so happy for you (and Jake i guess) for knowing what you’ve got and getting treated🥰🥰
This is the comment I came to make. I have been in literal HELL for the past year with symptoms that doctors can't explain that don't respond to treatment (and this is the second time I've had such a flare up, both lasting over a year with no help). I never found the "bit" offensive, in fact it was fully relatable - having no choice but to Google or ask ChatGPT because doctors aren't listening or making progress. My best friend also has chronic illness and we cope by joking about it all the time. Sometimes its all you can do to stop going insane.
True queen. Not to mention her composure as this idiot drags Ethan through the mud. They have children and one more on the way. They don't need some desperate fan to make a video targeting Ethan for being open with everyone. I love Ethan. I love hila. I love every H3 crew member. I think they handled it the best they could. I'm glad I downloaded Jake's video now that it's gone.
This unhinged weirdo spent 4 months piecing together Ethan's medical history, did hours of Lupus googling, compiled dozens of video clips, sent ETHAN'S LABS to some random doctor of his choosing to gatekeep his results and then took it upon himself to diagnose Ethan. All that effort and he still misinterpreted every piece of information that he gathered 🤯This level of incompetency is utterly humiliating.
Apparently Jake claims to have trauma from people in his life denying his illness too... because his own diagnosis of chronic lyme is nebulous at best. He is an onion of hypocrisy, and every layer stinks.
Reminder that "medical professional" does NOT equate to "doctor.". Anyone who works in the medical field can be considered a medical professional. And I think it's telling that Jake specifically said medical professional and not doctor.
@@setofreakinkaiba8553 One of the supposed lupus symptoms actually being eczema removes a way to reason to the explanation being lupus, which lowers the probability of it being lupus
This is such a small gripe, but as someone who has also been made fun of for the way I talk, it was really disappointing to see Jake keep going back to Ethan’s “mispronunciations” as a way to prove he is stupid/a liar/uneducated. Olivia was right, it’s such a mean point, and although I don’t know if it will affect Ethan in this way, overall that exact talking point makes people self-conscious to literally speak, which is how most people communicate. It’s so crummy.
this for sure cause like ethan is the mf you know that will not say something correct. that and he literally has tics from his anxiety causing him to even stutter that time. looking to ethan for coherent speech is basically ableist if we're going down that route and jake only seems to care about his agenda, not people w actual problems
@@nedvicky20It's so sad when disabled people are ableist. Society is not going to like you because you agree with them and get in your box! We need to stand together!
Me too I was like nah it is lowkey my autistic playground 🛝 lol so seeing the 50 was like damn that’s cool not just me but there’s a good bunch of us lol
Right. I’m t1d with a few other things, and my coworkers think I’m morbid for saying I’ll probably die by 80 and might have a few missing toes. Sometimes ya gotta joke through the pain
Just my opinion but based on the fact he had contacted multiple crew members prior and was supposedly a fan, Jake’s video was just a way to spite Ethan. He wanted to be involved in the H3 cinematic universe, but since he didn’t make it as a crew member or friend of the show he chose the dark side.
Dr. Doolittle is sitting there medically gaslighting Ethan for an hour about a possibility of autoimmune diseases… which are already overlooked by many doctors. So.. jake, in the process of “advocating” for autoimmune diseases you have successfully managed to promote ignoring symptoms that are already overlooked.. gold star buddy ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
@@ElChuntyCabramaking an hour long vid trying to convince an stranger on the internet that they are invalid about being anxious about symptoms and blood work … trying to make Ethan feel like his reality is something else saying it’s ezcema , trying to convince us that he was trying to get donations because he has lupus … that’s gaslighting babes
When people discredit someone for not being able to pronounce something or saying something grammatically incorrect, it just shows their moral superiority. Because the most important thing in communication is that the message gets across. It doesn't have to be perfectly recited, just simply expressed.
Out of all the problematic things Ethan has said Jake decided to make and essay on his medical anxiety basically xD something a lot of people suffer from 😂
It honestly kills me because Jake has a chronic illness. Like he must relate to the experience so so many people with chronic illness go through of seeing specialist after specialist and each visit amounting to breadcrumbs and no definitive answer. Heck, I have a shit ton of autoimmune symptoms and have simply given up and accepted that I am going to suffer from bouts of unexplained hives and edema, pain, frequent infections, etc. because I don’t have the patience or money to continue to seek a diagnosis. The process is scary and frustrating and Ethan was just sharing it with his audience.
@@jilllime3824 this!! especially since his Jake's illness is very rare, hard to diagnose, and he has talked about dealing with people accusing him of faking his illness/symptoms. i truly don't understand his thought process behind this video
@@jilllime3824he actually got his diagnoses pretty young in chronic illness terms (like 18-21 I think, just around when he became an adult) so I think he’s actually very privileged in that regard, more than he even really understands 😅
I’ve worked with people with this kind of health anxiety before and it can be all consuming. Talking it out with other people and finding ways to brighten your perspective is a big part of working through your fears
Exactly jakes way of even saying or is he just a hypochondriac. Anyone with hypochondria knows it’s brutal and can be debilitating. Or him saying “just eczema” when so many ppl suffer from severe eczema and self image issues. The way he is saying ethan is using lupus for sympathy when he’s fine but then saying every other issue is not as bad as lupus is so ironic.
100%. It was sooooo obtuse of Dr. Doolittle to not see Ethan's actions as those of a person suffering from, and trying effectively to deal with, health anxiety.
jake’s lack of empathy for medical anxiety in this video is really weird. i’ve been to the doctors and freaked out over much less even when they told me everything was fine. as much as i trust doctors, my anxiety will have me convinced that im gonna die 😭 he acts like he’s never met someone who’s scrolled webMD and are convinced that they have a brain tumor because of a headache. that’s a huge part of anxiety, it’s not always rational and people with anxiety often catastrophize things even when everyone is telling them they’re fine. for someone who tries to be very sensitive to people with autoimmune diseases, i would think that he would be more understanding of mental health conditions like anxiety?
Like if you think something is wrong with you, you need to research everything medically related to you BUT don't research online, don't speculate anything, don't joke about anything to lighten the mood, don't have hope, and just wait until you 10000% know what you have before you say anything!
Exactly!!! I have a ton of health anxiety and would consider myself a hypochondriac, and I’ve definitely catastrophized even if everyone told me I was fine. I didn’t feel fine and that was that.
This is relatively gross but I got a case of toenail fungus that I never got around to treating & my toenails started to fall off. This happened on like a Friday night so I freaked the absolute fuck out till my appointment on Tuesday about it & they were like no you’re fine just take these pills. BUT the whole time I was so concerned and stressed about the whole situation while the whole time I was fine. Looking back it seems so silly but at the time I was spiraling. So yes I agree. And also Ethan is just joking but alas everything has to be taken absolutely so seriously now that jokes aren’t jokes. And to finish, a lot of people calm their anxiety by comedic relief, myself included. It’s not that deep. Not deep enough to start drama at least
Exactly. And it's not even like Ethan had an overly crazy amount of anxiety either! He was having actual symptoms, and actual test results that could potentially be indicative of something serious. Getting those kinds of things diagnosed (or being able to conclusively determine that there ISNT any sort of serious diagnosis) takes time. It's normal to feel concerned about that, and to worry about what it could be. I really think he had a pretty healthy/normal amount of anxiety given the circumstances. It's not like he was freaking out and terrified... The whole lupus thing was literally just "it COULD possibly be that, I had a test result that indicated it could be possible, and I do have similar symptoms". And then it became a huge joke/meme. It was never this actual huge serious emotional "OMFG GUYS I THINK I HAVE LUPUS 😭😭 IM SO SCARED!!!!!" it was just fkn "it could MAYBE be that but I don't know" and not even being emotional at the possibility..... And then playing along with the jokes when people started making them.
I have extremely bad medical anxiety. Jake's video enraged me. Ethan made it clear every time that it was something that was in progress not a lupus diagnosis. It was good for him to openly talk abt it honestly for people like me who have a hard time even getting myself to the doctor. I also have a chronic illness just incase Jake sees this and wants to yell at me lol
As someone battling lupus for 10+ years I appreciated the awareness Ethan brought to the disease! I appreciated his transparency in the way he talked about his testing process and the conversations about what lupus can look like. I also got a kick out of the lupus jokes. This disease is awful and very personal for me and at no point was I ever offended by the lupus conversations on the show❤
As someone who also has a chronic illness calling someone a hypochondriac for thinking they have something that perhaps they don’t have is unbelievably insulting. So many of these illnesses take years to diagnose and when I would come across something that sounded like my symptoms I’d feel relief and hope that I might finally get treatment. In no way is it an insult to those with the disease to think you have one. Who made this guy the president of the chronic illness club and why didn’t I get to vote?
I saw that video at the same time as i noticed from his gf’s channel that he has a Trisha kitchen crying shower curtain from years ago and i just got the ick from the combo lol and i unsubbed from both of them, they’re obsessive fr! Obviously Trisha is funny and the lupus jokes are funny i just think they take it so far
AMAZING work Doolittle, talks about the hardships he had being misdiagnosed and people not sure what he has, but angry that Ethan wants a diagnosis and is worried about bad diseases. Genius gate keeping. And setting back your own platform of helping people with diseases.
😭 RIGHT? if yourself or anyone in your family has experienced health issues i feel like it usually makes people encourage spreading awareness, not shaming people for thinking about their health - lots of people wish they had paid attention when symptoms of an underlying condition were mild or confusing!
as someone with severe health ocd, the dolittle video made me so fucking pissed. way to make everyone with health anxiety feel even crazier than people already make them feel, which will in turn make the obsessions worse. awesome.
You're so valid, its very understandable to be worried or obesessive over ones health and it does absolutely not mean youre seeking attention or whatever this guy thinks.
Im so sorry. OCD is such a fucking debilitating illness. Mine isn’t with health issues but numbers/ counting etc but the intrusive thoughts often leave me worrying about health. If I don’t do one of my rituals, my intrusive thoughts make me think people I love will get sick or hurt 😞
Marc Elliot - “have a good night” Sebastian - “i just want to be left alone” Oli - “it’s just a lunch box” Pearl - *sigh* xQc - 🪱 Jake Doolittle- I will do anything to make this stop. Why do people just keep serving Ethan slam dunks on a silver platter. 😩 Does EVERYONE have a humiliation fetish or something
I have a severe chronic illness and your jokes about figuring out what’s wrong with you make me laugh so freaking hard. I swear I would be heartbroken if we all stop making lupus jokes anytime Ethan has an ailment. No one here thinks lupus isn’t serious…it’s just a joke.
Jake is treating Ethan the exact same way the medical community treats us when we come down with chronic illness Edit: ugh I have ME/CFS and my heart just broke when Ethan said “it can’t be normal to be this fatigued”. It’s not 😢
WAS WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO SAY THIS 😭 i have family members who’ve dealt with chronic illness and it’s absolute hell to deal with doctors who don’t care or write them off as a hypochondriac for wanting to figure out what’s wrong - “you’re crazy, this is probably nothing, you’re overreacting, you don’t have ALL the symptoms”, it’s textbook
this is so true which is crazy it’s like he’s gate keeping being chronically ill. i guess i could understand how, if you had a chronic illness, you could get annoyed by hypochondriacs like repeatedly spreading fear for (probably not) having the disease that you have. but to make this video is actually insane i can’t believe he didn’t think from any other perspective before posting that vid
Ikr. You're doing all this for attention! 🤪 You're just a hypochondriac! It's just (insert generic harmless health issue here, to dismiss your concerns)!
Honestly! Like this isn’t a Dream MC cheating scandal, man violated healthcare security/ safety protocols and payed a doctor off just for a lame hit piece
Not a doctor, a medical professional. Which somehow makes that even worse because who knows what level of knowledge they even have. Anyone who works in the medical field can be considered a medical professional.
@@TheSaiyanPrincess89 true, thank you. I remembered I volunteered with the kids there at the hospital before, I could be called a medical professorial there too when I don’t have medical qualifications yk compared to what the actual nurses and doctors there have, when I was just a babysitter in there
As someone with lupus and who is also a medical student, sometimes the way Ethan would talk about it vaguely annoyed me because he clearly didn’t know much about it. BECAUSE OF COURSE HE DOESNT! Rheumatological illnesses are INSANELY complicated! It’s the reason we send people to the rheumatologist! I thought about it for maybe half a second, thought man I wish I could explain it to him, and that was IT. Because I’m not a complete psychopath.
exactly . ethan doesn’t know much ab it and is genuinely worried ab what is causing his very real problems. and now doolittle is able to tell him he doesnt have something ?? why is that up to him to decide when literal doctors miss that shit
Preach. I'm an HR student who also has a bachelor in law. When I hear people having rather ignorant takes about my specialties, either I gently correct them and move on with my life. It's not that complicated. Life is too short to be angry at such trivial things.
Sending someone else’s medical info (whether they’ve put it out publicly online or not) to a random doctor to evaluate and give you an opinion when you have no relationship with the person just to prove a point is so so weird and creepy. I’ve never heard of this guy before todays ep but wow does he come across as bitter that someone who has money might also have a health issue and they might be able to treat it better or easier because they aren’t struggling for money.
I genuinely can’t believe a doctor agreed to do this. If they did, I’m sure they didn’t know it was going to be part of a TH-cam video. That is so unethical I don’t even know where to begin.
@@holly.earendil5187Right!! I’m still so baffled that he’d not only do that but then go on to say he’s done this in a public TH-cam video where he’s trying to come across as morally superior.
I don't go here but telling a father of a young family with a baby on the way to not worry about indicators of cancer and autoimmune disorders is just cruel
Right! As someone with chronic illness I can not believe the way he tried to gatekeep the way Ethan expressed his experience on the road to get an accurate diagnosis (which is already an extremely hard gate to cross dude).
“He’s almost excited to receive a diagnosis.” No shit, when you’ve tried for a year to find out what is ailing you, a diagnosis is everything! Not knowing exactly what’s wrong with you prohibits treatment for the illness and it’s anxiety inducing to not know. Who wouldn’t be happy?
Exactly. When I got diagnosed with an auto-immune disease, was I excited? Of course not. But was I thrilled that maybe now I could treat my disease with medications and stop the massive hair loss? For sure! Was so happy to hear my hair may actually recover! Tried different medications, finally found one that worked, and while my hair isn't where it was before, atleast chunks aren't missing and I'm no longer in pain.
THAT WAS MY EXACT THOUGHT. I had an insurance company once deny me a colonoscopy because “that’s only for old people”. It such a harmful take to say that. Like people get misdiagnosed all the time because of that claim.
If you told a doctor you thought you had a thing, and they said "you don't have any of the symptoms", and then you said "but I still think I have it", and they replied "It's very rare in your age/gender/location", did they Doctor just say something irrelevant?
Honestly the 'Lupus arc' has been one of my favorites. It was actually really calming and relatable. It can be super scary to have a problem and not know what it is, and spiral from it. Seeing Ethan add humor to it made it such a gem. I can't believe that guy spent countless hours writing, filming, and editing this video. He could've done this video ironically, and it could've been amazing. But seriously attacking you for freaking out over your health IS insane.
I remember when ethan would always complain about not being able to lose weight. It was clearly effecting his metal health. He looks so amazing. Healthy and happy. He deserves it.
@@pinguufuuuuthat's what u think stalking is? U very obviously don't have a career because what ur describing is called "networking." Like when mailmen deliver ur mail or doctors call u on ur phone, do you squeal "STALKING" too? Edit: my god your comment history lol
Poor Zach, Chantal, and especially Bambi. Hope the doggie heals physically, and you all heal mentally from this incident. May the rest of your healing journeys be peaceful.
I have some significant medical issues (PCOS, Endometriosis, Hidradenitis Supperativa, and kidney stones) and my medical anxiety from the trauma of trying to receive help for those issues affects me deeply. Ethan advocating for his own health with a sense of humor has always been inspiring and empowering to me. I have been told that I cannot feel pain on my ovaries, since they don’t have any nerve endings while I had a ruptured cyst bleeding into my abdominal cavity (which hurt like hell). I’ve been told that if I had a kidney stone I wouldn’t be able to sit across from the doctor and tell him about it (I fucking did and ended up having to deliver my oldest child early because of it). I’ve been told excessive pain and bleeding after my C-section was totally normal and then needed multiple surgeries to remove scar tissue from endo later that week or I would have bled to death. I’ve been blamed for not appearing to be in enough pain so that the doctors could accurately diagnose me when I described WITH MY WORDS exactly how much pain I’m in, and I’ve been told that I was being hysterical when I screamed and cried in pain because I had lost all hope. There are so many stories like mine in these comments and so many of us have found some solace in Ethan’s medical journey. I hope he never stops advocating for himself and gets all of the answers he needs to achieve his best quality of life, something that is extremely difficult to do with the state of our medical industrial complex. I am currently 7 months pregnant with my second baby and every day I practice in front of a mirror, “I would like to request a different nurse/doctor,” and “I would like to speak to a patient advocate right now.”
Power to you ❤️ I've been needing to watch the whole segment about Jake's video in small doses cuz it's pissing me off so much. Really infuriating how he claims to have some sort of chronic illness himself, yet is so quick to be so dismissive of someone else who is struggling with unknown health issues. He's saying the exact type of shit that people with chronic illnesses often hear. "Oh you're just being a hypochondriac, it's nothing, it's probably just this really stupidly obvious common thing that doesn't actually explain your symptoms, calm down and shut up, you're being dramatic"
@@meowJACK That is exactly how I felt about it! Like how can you go through the process of being diagnosed and display so little empathy?! When Ethan said something along the lines of, “I don’t know what’s wrong, but it just can’t be normal to feel like this every day,” my heart broke because I have been there so often! Hearing that nothing is wrong with me and wondering if this is just what normal life feels like is enough to cause anyone to feel hopeless and alone, which is why this stuff needs to be talked about and taken seriously.
As someone with chronic illnesses, one of the universal experiences is spending months or years trying to figure out what is going on with yourself. I actually found a strange comfort in watching Ethan go through a similar thing even though he has far more resources and great medical care. The truth is that human bodies are weird and confusing and a lot of things are hard to diagnose, during that process you simply have to talk it out or it will eat you alive. Not knowing is so much scarier than figuring out possibilities and realizing you can learn to live with or treat them all; that's all i saw with Ethan's lupus saga, trying to find answers and find peace with potentials All this being said, i really do hope Ethan figures out what is causing these issues, nobody deserves to be dismissed even if their symptoms seem to be insignificant to an outside observer
Not to be that person lol, but as someone with a chronic illness/auto immune disease the Lupus discourse was my ABSOLUTE FAVOURITE content from last year. It was so hilarious and dangled the line beautifully. If you cannot find humour in terrible things life would not be worth living. Being able to relate to the content while also being able to laugh about it at the same time was glorious.
I always wondered why jake’s collabs (like kurtis conner, drew gooden, danny gonzalez) were all on his channel without making a video for the other person’s channel lol. there’s no way of knowing of course tho. after this whole thing cane out, adam mcintyre said their collab was mutual & he really liked jake so he was rly surprised about this whole thing. but then again it seemed like adam agreed quickly so there was no hounding needed 😂
My mom got diagnosed with Hashimoto's, an autoimmune disorder. I watched her fight and claw and question doctors for YEARS before she finally got a diagnosis. She was so scared and frustrated that she did a lot of research on her own. I think it gave her some power back and also helped her advocate for herself. Ethan - you were doing what normal people do. Questioning symptoms. Doing your own research. And above all else, sharing your journey with others. Obviously no one who has followed your journey thinks anything of all of this. I actually started watching Jake in 2023 because the algorithm was pushing him so hard (I follow Drew Gooden, Kurtis, Danny, Jarvis and the like, so I'm sure that's why). But a lot of times I felt like his arguments werent funny, original, or creative. That was when he was critiquing genuine idiots I didn't know. You have every right to feel hurt and defend yourself. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Exactly, my cousin spent years with symptoms of fatigue that all the doctors said was fibromyalgia but she knew it wasn't that, she did research for herself and finally found a doctor who listened to her. She has multiple schlorosis, imagine if she were to wait for a diagnosis and accept it without going deeper into her exams.
I know this comment is old but just want to say congratulations on your mother for finding that strength to fight for herself, I have a very similar condition to what she has autoimmune wise, and I KNEW something was wrong with me, when I was taken to hospital due to feinting the doctors accused me of being on drugs! Id never taken them in my life! When I said I wasn't on drugs he rolled his eyes! I had to hound them over and over again for them to do the correct tests on me.. finally got diagnosed. Crazy what people have to put up with just to get the right treatment, it really is like a fight.
I have a couple of points: Jacob knows what a joke is; he's being deliberately obtuse so that he can make Ethan look bad. It's like someone joking about running over their own grandmother for a Klondike Bar and being like "Oh really? You'd kill your own loved ones for a a trivial treat?!" Same goes for taking health-related Superchats and claiming that people are donating out of sympathy. You donate to get your superchat read by the streamer, which he knows as someone who livestreams on TH-cam fairly often. It's clear to me that these people wanted to be a part of the conversation and offer their own knowledge and experiences. Finally, this came out in December, and he teased it beforehand as this major expose. What other devastating expose came out last month? Hbomberguy's video about plagiarism. He saw the success of that and tried to replicate it in some way. Allegedly-for-entertainment-purposes-only-in-Minecraft.
"It's all funny unless it's something I care about" vibes. Burr called em out ages ago, there's plenty like it. Suddenly everything's serious and not funny or a joking matter.
he was def trying to go for a hbomberguy style expose. especially trying to find people who were effected by the things ethan was saying but the spreadsheet filled with every single donation was the biggest giveaway lmaooo
thank god bambi is okay 🥺 so sorry that happened zach. broke my heart a little bit when he said “bambi cant tell us when he’s in pain” hope he recovers quickly
What Jake did makes me so mad. He knows first hand how terrible it feels to have someone dismiss your symptoms or call you a hypochondriac and he does it to someone else. Hard to feel bad for him when he cries over hate comments saying his illness is fake
I 100% believe the reason his video was so mean and bad faith was because he was so butthurt about none of the crew noticing him and giving him attention or a job lmao.
and i saw a comment from a pathologist that said chronic lyme is not a real condition and typically is actually other autoimmune problems or conditions like chronic fatigue or fibromyalgia - i couldn’t understand how someone could make a video so hateful and mean until i realized i think he’s projecting?
I thought I was crazy, but I could tell back when that collab was released (I was a Jake fan) AB was visibly uncomfortable, and the video felt weird to watch. Now I have an explanation as to why, AB WAS uncomfortable and hating it.
@@enexius67I feel like a lot of his collabs feel so forced and awkward, like he’s done some with Drew Gooden and Danny Gonzalez and they always feel so off idk
This guy is one of those people who makes trauma and illness a competitive sport. He has to be the sickest one. He thinks he has the monopoly on tuff times.
If I didn’t go to the doctor after self-diagnosing my symptoms, they never would have found my unruptured brain aneurysm. It's almost like... people know when something's wrong with their bodies... and they can look up those things that feel wrong
100%. The web can spread misinformation but it can also empower people to get something checked out. This is especially important for ailments that could be caught earlier on and for groups of people who are often ignored or underdiagnosed (women, people of color, etc.)
@207humanity yeah! It started with a really horrible headache in the middle of the night. Within a minute turned into the worst pain of my life but I didn't go to the hospital because it went away for the most part after like half an hour. I was looking it up that night and everything said aneurysm and I was also noticing some weird visual things in my left eye. I went to the doctor and told her about all of that and she said, "you're probably fine but we can get some scans to be safe". Two months later I was getting surgery at Johns Hopkins. It turned out the headache was most likely a "warning leak" so I'm very glad that my PCP took me seriously and sent me off for scans! A lot of people would have been brushed off so I got very lucky
I truly think he knew what he was doing this whole time making this video. He clearly has been wanting your attention for years and this is probably his plan to finally get on the H3 podcast in a weird and twisted way.
Moral of the story: if Jake actually gave a shit about the Lupus bit, why was he reaching out to the crew and begging for a spot on the show and attending the live show all after the bit had already begun?
I have chronic illness (an autoimmune disorder), and I wasn’t offended by the Lupus bit at all. I believe at one point Ethan was genuinely concerned he had Lupus. I had the same concerns for myself when seeking a diagnosis. But when it turned into a tongue-in-cheek joke about being a hypochondriac, I thought it was totally lighthearted and funny. We also don’t know yet that Ethan is okay. Maybe not Lupus, but getting a diagnosis can take time.
Jake is a classic example of a doctoro-file. As the daughter of 2 doctors I’ve met these obsessed types. It’s especially common with those who have been chronically ill and look up to doctors as their superheroes. It’s CRINGE af
I’ve never heard of that. Every chronically ill or disabled person I know, myself included, hate doctors. Interesting that some people go the opposite direction with it.
Oh yeah, I’ve chatted with a guy who repeatedly tried to diagnose me with different mental disorders every time I said something he didn’t like. Being chronically ill myself, I’ve learned to stay the fuck out of people’s medical business, but not everyone catches on to that lesson unfortunately.
@@taurusandlibra2638 I also have a chronic illness and I'm part of many chronic pain communities and dude, people HATE doctors like, they really see them as petulent unsympathetic children, sometimes even to a fault
My mom passed away from complications of lupus. It took years and years to get diagnosed. And she never once complained even with the tremendous pain. What finally did it was the butterfly rash on her face. I think she would be happy that people were even talking about lupus. I used to have to explain what it was to everyone I met. I miss her everyday. And I’ve wanted to comment this when Ethan first started talking about what he was going through…
At the beginning of Ethan's Lupus saga, I started to get similar inflammatory and symptoms with really high blood values for inflammatory markers (CRP, ESR). Its weird because we got the same tests around the same time, and honestly watching Ethan joke about it gave me so much relief. Throughout this process, about everyone in my life told me not to worry about it and started throwing out diagnoses like strained muscles, gluten intolerance, or gastrointestinal inflammation caused by poor diet. For context, I am also studying medicine so this is particularly irritating to me. People like Dr. Doolittle mad me think I was crazy for being worried, which is so destructive and self-absorbed-- something they teach us not to do to patients. Without a single risk factor, I was eventually diagnosed with a golf ball-sized blood clot in my femoral vein, also referred to as DVT (and later post-thrombotic syndrome which is chronic). This is extremely rare, (24 y/o F) so much so that my doctors had no studies to reference to treat women in my age group and relied on treatment recommendations for older or elderly populations. Nothing about Ethan's journey is offensive, if anything I find his transparency refreshing because it is normal to worry and try to find an explaination (its human nature!). He understands he is not a doctor, FFS he did a Lupus poll! Don't gatekeep chronic illness, its harmful and really stupid, with P+L :)
It took me a year to finally get my diagnosis for Endometriosis, after two ER visits and a misdiagnosis. Endo is a horrible disorder I’ll have for the rest of my life and is basically untreatable, it has changed my life. Ethan’s medical journey is funny and made my journey easier. That’s all, just funny and relatable for me. ✌🏻&❤
The amount of times doctors told me, or alluded, it was all in my head before actually getting my Endo diagnosis/surgery was the most brutal part of the "journey" for me. Another reason why I related to Ethan's anger and frustration with Jake's video. Not having answers doesn't mean that nothing is happening and it is such a stressful part of any medical issue. All the peace and love to anyone struggling, diagnosis or not ✌❤
@paddycakes. Not having answers is soooooooo frustrating, I wanted to vent and talk about it but it’s so hard, you start to feel like you’re crazy, like what you’re feeling isn’t real or it’s just anxiety. It’s really gross that Jake completely misses how that is a huge part of figuring out what is going on, the medical “journey” is so exhausting and scary.
Wishing you the best. I got my endo excision lap a few weeks ago and things have been so much better. Hoping you find a treatment that eases your pain somewhat sometime soon ❤ also f endo
My mom got injured at work due to negligence from her employer. They wouldn’t pay her medical bills so she took them to court. Doolittle’s argument reminds me of her employers defense lawyer. They basically gaslit her, picked apart every diagnosis and test, and then made shit up and said she was self diagnosing even though at the same time dismissing the results from when she saw doctors. She won the lawsuit but this kind of attempt to publicly gaslight someone about their own medical issues leaves a really bad taste in my mouth. You know your own body. Don’t let people like Doolittle try to trick you into thinking otherwise.
my family had something similar happen, but combined with private detectives who stalked my whole family for 8 months and doctored footage so it looked like we were lying. the effort people will go through to diminish those who struggle with disability or health anxiety is insane
Thank you SO MUCH for shouting out and linking my video and saying such nice things about my work love you guys!!
It was a great vid:) loved the attention to everyone on the crew, gives new appreciation☺️☺️
I just watched your video today! Made me resubscribe to H3 haha
that was a great video!
Oh hey! I just watched that yours yesterday! I loved it!
I just watched your video! I love the clips you chose to represent everything you talked about ! Very well edited!
I was one of the 3 people whose medical bills Ethan paid ❤️ I’m eternally grateful. FAMILY
Hope you're doing and feeling better!! Family
I hope you are doing better queen 🫶
@@saschas081 thank you! It was nothing serious just a ridiculous unexpected bill my psychiatrist gave me. Was literally overdrafted $200
Nothing serious physically*
And going through medication withdrawal because I didn’t want to be in debt to my psychiatrist any more
“Not understanding humor, is that a condition” from Hila was too funny. Hila pulling through with so many quips on this episode
"I didn't realize fallen fans actually fall and hit their heads." She does not fuck around when it comes to Ethan man, she goes full fucking savage. I love it so much.
"Don't talk to me" like I love how she went from so shy to a full savage filled with comedic gold, I love it
@@kittencuddler1072 Hila is honestly just so dope. She's a great example of the fact that coming into your own style and confidence and finding your voice can happen at any age or time in your life. & on top of everything she's accomplishing all this growth in front of an audience of tens of thousands. I'll say it again, she's SO dope.
@@mekaylaroblesdo you have the timestamp for this by any chance?
@@domino6239 2:02:50
It really makes you wonder if Ethan really has Tourette's or even a wife and kids. I'm rethinking everything at this point.
Bet he's lying about his hairline too
He is lying about everything. He doesn't even have a podcast!
He will soon make a program how to overcome Tourette’s syndrome.. oh wait
Dun dun dunnnn
IF that’s even his real name 🙄
i’ve been a nurse for almost 20 years and his medical comments are ridiculous! i left a comment on his video and he blocked me LOL 😂
no way!! this guy is such a loser fr 😭
What did you say ??? That got you blocked
That's insane lol 😭
Dan...blocked me
@@chillarypuff oh the heck is Dan?
Hila saying “DONT TALK TO ME” is a moment for the fucking ages, I love it 😂
This was my fav moment
I loved how fast it was too 😂😂
too fucking funny LMAO need that as a soundbite asap
Timestamp
@@kez7225around 2:09:02
Ethan did everything right and they indicted him.
This deserves way more thumbs up:)
😂😂😂😂
SCREAMING
This is so funny LMAO
Top sound bite for me lol. I wish they played "let's indict the mf" more lol
Ethan is 100% guilty for being totally vulnerable & open about his medical anxiety and using comedy to get through something that genuinely worried him. Shame on him!
not to mention encouraging people to check in on their health regularly, such an irresponsible use of his platform!
And the procceeds to send some fans who asked for money to help there health issues just flexing that hes rich on us🖕🏾
Context plz
@theotsouvallaris6038 bro the context is that you've watched the podcast for the last year lol
@@theotsouvallaris6038 The person in this video is essentially saying these things about Ethan. He obviously isn't straight-up saying that Ethan is a bad person for being open and vulnerable and helping people, but instead what the dude is doing is implying that the "harm" Ethan has done has somehow negated any good he has done. The person is basically saying;
"Ethan does a lot of good for his fans and has been very open about his fear of having lupus. But that makes him a bad person because he isnt sure if he has it yet."
~*~ as a disabled woman~*~ I actually found Ethan's dogged pursuit of the truth with regards to his symptoms very important for the audience. No, he didn't end up having lupus, but he listened to his body, reached out, got help, and tried to figure out what was wrong with him. We should all of the mindset that going to the doctor is not a bad thing, and it's always better to listen to your body and try to understand it then just being miserable and getting sicker. An important lesson that was lost in the shuffle a bit!
Edited to add: It is much better to be cautious, go to the doctor, and find out that nothing is wrong with you than to not go to the doctor and realize later down the line that something was wrong with you and you missed your window or best chance to treat it.
and what was Ethan's body saying to him beyond the face rash that spoke for itself, and lab work that spoke for itself? He was tired?
@@syrupthemcheeks335chronic fatigue hits a lot harder than just being tired. Takes a huge mental toll too
@@syrupthemcheeks335thanks for the input doctor
@@syrupthemcheeks335 Dude Jake, please go to therapy you are under every comment thread.
@@syrupthemcheeks335Jake buddy, these throw away accounts aren't doing anything. You want to be so mad but Ethan hasn't done anything wrong. So its just really ironic to publicly critique someone when you yourself are guilty of what you're claiming Ethan is guilty of.😂
We need someone to make an expose about Ethan flushing the paper towels
THIS
This would actually be really funny
This is the true crime he’s committed
TALK ABOUT THE ALLEGATIONS! 😤
Need this as a crew skit so badly
It took my mom over 16 doctors appointments, doing her own research, and demanding they test her for lupus to finally get diagnosed with lupus. It took years. Ethan doing his own research and experiencing medical anxiety is all so valid.
Exactly! This happened to me with multiple diagnosis and multiple doctors asked me if I feel like being a bit of a hypochondriac. All that only to find out I have a heart condition, tumors in my chest, sleep apnea and adhd. If I didn’t do my own research, listening to my body and trying to understand what is wrong so I can explain to health providers better - I would not have any clarity about my health and wouldn’t be able to solve the issues. It’s so sick that people try to clown on those trying to find medical clarification and trying to educate themselves
That's what I kept thinking about during Dr Doolittle's video. Every person I know with an auto immune disorder had several doctors misdiagnose then for years before they came to something that made sense. He even admits that's often how it works but somehow Ethan looking things up is bad?
No literally I’ve been going through same shit the last few years and doing my own research and advocating for myself is the only thing that progressed me to get treatment
"he's self diagnosing!"
*Proceeds to diagnose Ethan with eczema even though he's not a doctor*
How many doctors told Ethan he most likely had eczema before Jake said that's what they told him?
@@syrupthemcheeks335 how would I know? I'm not his doctor. You missed the point.
Also the fact he’s minimizing things like eczema and hypochondria. Like wow it’s only “eczema”, when eczema can be severe and cause self image issues and discomfort. The ppl who go through steroid withdrawal is so brutal. And jake is gonna act like Ethan’s faking when there were so many podcast where no offense to Ethan but he physically looked very unwell with the rashes and patches and trying new ointments and all of that.
@@faeirybaby The answer is two of them, and you would know because it was said in the video... What point did I miss???
@@ezzy4678 Can you show timestamp or quote when Jake said Ethan was faking his rashes?
Jake basically saying Ethan couldn’t have Lupus because he doesn’t fit the most common demographics and then later saying that he himself is living proof that you can still have something despite not fitting the typical demographics (positive ANA titer for Lymes) is insane.
No and the fact that nick cannon has lupus and is very open about it too… like it’s not impossible to have lupus and be a man sir.
@@carolinapillow3310not Nick Cannon having 500 kids knowing full well he has lupus when it’s genetic 💀💀
@@squirrelbugg99hes raising awareness
You dont understand. Jake is d i f f e r e n t
@@squirrelbugg99one can have both lupus and brain damage lol
so ethan’s crime here is: worrying and speculating on his health, using the internet to try to understand his symptoms, and sharing his worries with those around him?
phewee call the police!!!
don't forget, he also can't pronounce medical terms.
Straight to jail
Sounds like me on a monday
@@stratosphere94right!!!!
ethan misremembering jake’s organization “never stop” as “keep going” is so funny and peak ethan
Hila responding "DON'T TALK TO ME" is the highlight of the ep 2:09:05
agree
Yes!
She was so funny this episode
don’t talk to me 😐👉
BETTER FEAR HILA!
As a medical resident, shame on Ethan for being anxious about his own health and for not knowing the ins and outs of autoimmune disorders and their corresponding labs 😞
For real… the fact that he wants to stay healthy to be in his kids life… pathetic
Right? Married to a chief res who said the same thing.
it went unnoticed, but zack playing the “dee dee-“ sound bite while they were talking about gypsy rose was pure genius
what what min???
@@majoromanfAround 1:15:15
@@majoromanfit was in the beginning i believe
1:15:37
pls explain
as a chronic illness girly, the lupus saga brought me so many giggles. I HATE that he's a self-declared spokesman for all chronic illness folks. Good for you for running a charity babes, you don't speak for me. I'm a carer in addition to managing my own illness so I don't have the time or resources to do such a thing. I thought that was something you do because you care about people and not wield it as some sort of credential? It's giving white knight.
THIS. like omg haven’t i suffered enough? there are millions of ppl w chronic illnesses, how could you speak on the behalf of everyone? we need representation, not just a singular representative who thinks they know all.
And it’s relatable. Having to go through all these referrals and specialists, and waiting for appointment openings and labs while you know something is wrong is so frustrating and anxiety inducing, so hearing a person with a big platform not only talk about it, but also joke about it is fun bc it’s relatable and helps us not take it all so seriously. And it’s validating to see another person go through it and making light of it.
You're 100% on point, and tbh I think that if he actually cared about this topic he wouldn't be so ready to throw around his "connections", his charity that he's been alleged to be scalping money from, or his own autoimmune disease. This whole video felt like a temper tantrum because the crew and, by extension Ethan, didn't notice him and make him the main character in all of their lives. It was petty, mean spirited, bad faith, and at times absolutely idiotic. All the hallmarks of a spiteful and hateful attack out of some twisted idea of revenge.
Thank you for putting that term back in my vocabulary, fellow chronic illness girlie!! I was trying to find the right word for it and it's absolutely giving white knight! Hard agree, I got diagnosed with MS almost three years ago now and chronic illness attacks everyone in a different way. For someone to say to one of the creators that got me through my diagnosis that he's "profiting" off of chronic illness is so far fetched, even my swiss cheese ass brain knows that 🧀 🧠 😭
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It's genuinely great to see how Hila came from a shy person to an actual savage.
Literally the DONT TALK TO ME WAS MY FAV PART
Motherhood and getting older makes your tolerance to BS much lower because you’ve so much else going on 😂😂
Most of her comments this episode are iconic! I laughed more than once. Queen Hila 👑
Hila jaut used to be a shy savage lmao
I still think she is shy
He was obviously butt-hurt about not being able to get in with the crew and this eventually festered into a resentment that bubbled over the edge when Ethan started talking about stuff that hits very close to home for him. Hope he gets some help cause that is some seriously unhealthy mindset to be living in.
I have several autoimmune diseases/conditions and it took me years to get one of them diagnosed. I hope Ethan gets his answer soon and finds a treatment that works for his current symptoms and to prevent any other ones developing.
spot on. He just thought fuck it, ill join the ethan klein hate train. This is OBVIOUS by the fact that Ethan klein self diagnosing is OFFENSIVE AND EVIL AND CANCEL. But then he LITERALLY DOES THE SAME THING. He says that Ethan does not have Lupus, he just has eczema. Like, he did not care about the offensiveness, he just saw a chance to get money and failed hard, and shown himself to be a hypocrite LOL
@@bas_ee ya and now he's arguing with people in the comments of this video on throwaways trying to get them to feel bad for him "being bullied"
Either that or there are people way too invested in fighting his case over several hours of commenting 🙈
Im better. I just randomly got type 1 diabetes and I got diagnosed in 5 min in The ER. Diabetes is an autoimmune disease.
Sorry but sucks to suck. 5 min diagnoses time boiii
hila saying "dont talk to me" was SO FUNNY lmfao
One of the best parts of this episode 😂
2:09:03
Hahaha seriously I pissed myself
The whole “this disease primarily affects women/men” to dismiss a possible diagnosis is so harmful, especially for autoimmune diseases. I have spondyloarthritis which primarily affects men, but I’ve found a whole community of women with this disease that doctors have written off for YEARS simply because they weren’t men. This type of thinking is exactly why some autoimmune diseases take so long to get diagnosed.
Omg this! Unrelated to what im about to say, but Ive had Crohns Disease and Autoimmune Hepatitis since i was 4 (22 now). But anyways I recently went to my regular doctor (not GI) and told him I was having some heart palpitations so we did an EKG. It came back abnormal and he literally walked in and said "If you werent female I would send you to a cardiologist" he called it "Female heart syndrome"......like bro what the fuck ? 😂 now he got me all worried so I'm going to a cardiologist anyways for a real opinion lmao literally what is the difference between a male and female heart ?! Dumbest shit Ive heard from a DOCTOR🤦♀️
honestly feel like there are so many conditions that “”primarily affect”” men when in reality doctors just won’t take women seriously. my sister and i are both autistic, but only i have a diagnosis, even though we have almost the same symptoms and the same genetic link to it, it’s ridiculous.
@@ash4513sounds like you’re farming sympathy for donations
Couldn’t agree more!!!
exactly especially when we've literally seen how this plays out with things like breast cancer. Thankfully we're moving in the right direction but it used to be talked about as something for women to worry about exclusively, when men very much can and do get it, but can sometimes ignore warning signs or just not know them due to being conditioned to think "ah that's not for me to worry about."
Lupus for the girls, Fistfest for the boys
This is absolute gold
Fist Me with Lupus is gonna be my next metal album
The girls get the ANA titer, the boys get it looser.
@@officialgoogleyoutubeAnna Tighter 😆
Oh my god hahaha
My aunt died after battling MS, hers was not diagnosed for years because they called her a hypochondriac, by the time they diagnosed her it was so severe she ended up losing her sight, her ability to walk, and eventually she was in a vegetative state. If only they had taken her seriously and didn’t tell her she was a hypochondriac
I'm so sorry. There are so many conditions that go untreated for this very reason. My condolences to you and your family.
I’m so sorry to hear this :( people like this guy calling others who have genuine anxieties about their health are hurting others in the long run. Women exponentially more so because we deal with medical professionals denying us genuine healthcare in the gist that we are over reacting or are hypochondriacs or that there is nothing wrong. We women still experience this to this day, your aunt is a testament to that awful fact. This guy became obsessed over Ethan and the crew and decided to use the most harmful way to get back at them but this way of thinking can hurt others in the process.
Funnily enough, this dude is actually the hypocrite he accuses Ethan of being.
I love how Jake’s call-in where he begged for you to look at his resume in his mind is “working together”
He probably thinks making this “expose” video about Ethan was also them “working together” 😂
And him harassing the crew was "being friendly" lol
They’re “friends” now 😂
H3 pulling up dm’s of Jake harassing the crew and being extremely persistent about Ethan hiring him is so EMBARRASSING. Jake didn’t think this through, did he not assume they would mention how hard he rode for the podcast before dropping such an outrageous hate video? Terrible fucking take, Dr Doolittle
Can you give a timestamp please 😭😭
@@darkwebgirlthis video is a single response not harassment
@@darkwebgirldo you understand what qualifies as harassment? this is literally a response to an accusation made against ethan lmao
@@darkwebgirlso if you call someone crazy for sharing THEIR own medical experience on THEIR platform, when they respond they’re harassing you? what’s the weather in delulu world like today baby?
@@darkwebgirlfound Jakes burner account
Okay but Cam still sending memes despite not being in the studio is so iconic
We love Cam
Our meme king
good memes, but wouldn't call it iconic at all. This is giving cisgender white woman use of the word "iconic".
@@Tendonitis123..................
@@Tendonitis123huh I had no idea Cam was a cisgender white woman
“He’s self diagnosing” ok but why are we shaming healthcare anxiety. As someone who has suffered through health anxiety it’s frustrating when someone invalidates your feelings and says oh you’re fine. Anxiety is real no matter what it’s about. Ethan has every right to feel the way he feels.
^this! I feel like they didn’t discuss, but being a “hypochondriac” without an obvious gain is just… anxiety. Which is also valid.
I describe myself as a hypochondriac but it’s an offset of my extreme obsessive anxiety disorder 🙄 and it’s not something I choose either. I worry about things sincerely and authentically, but usually it’s not as bad in the end.
It is not something I enjoy. It sucks for me too.
@@OpalLeighRight! My abusive ex accused me of not having PMDD when he was in the room when I was diagnosed.
Talk about gaslighting. If it was a misdiagnosis even I would have been unaffected by medication or become manic, which didn't happen.
I'm a hypochondriac apparently but he avoids doctors like that will make it go away which is being paralyzed by health anxiety. He's a hater ass bitch in not a good way, a jealous malicious way. And I tried very excruciatingly to help him realize he has OCD, not try to make him feel crazy and tear him down like that
Ethan, I spent 16 years waiting for an accurate diagnosis. Those few months of your raw reaction to lab results and the insight look into what it’s like to WAIT, feel so confused and unsure, having doctors throw you around with no real answers- SO REAL. I had a million “normal” or “on the cusp” lab results before my condition was finally uncovered and diagnosed by a world renowned rheumatologist. There’s a reason why chronic illness often goes undiagnosed for YEARS. And to see a comedian process that experience of uncertainty and be able to add funny commentary, felt so healing and relatable.
As someone with chronic illness and autoimmune issues, I literally could not finish the segment because of how angry Dr Dolittle made me. Honestly it just triggered me how he managed to so severely stigmatize chronic illness further under the false pretense that he is an advocate for chronic health. He clearly isn’t.
So well written! Thank you for sharing your experience and thoughts. I couldn’t agree more with your take!
I’m so sorry for all you went through!
And that’s what got me too - that Jake is someone who knows how hard it is to get a diagnosis and he’s mocking and belittling Ethan on his process to figure out if it really is a condition that he has. What the actual hell
I'm currently trying to find an answer to my symptoms and lab results, i've been going to a rhumatologist for 3-4 years now still with no diagnosis, i have chronic fatigue, i used to get butterfly rashes (luckily it happens way less often now), and other issues. I'm still lost and looking for answers, my mom has been misdiagnosed a few times, I think she has lupus, but for sure my sister has been diagnosed and my uncle. hoping I can get answers someday!
I am so sorry that you've had to go through that! Thank you for speaking out, it really adds perspective to how messed up/mean spirited Jake's video truly is
Hope you are well and that Fridays episode brings you peace and love
Jake is giving major obsessed stalker vibes and it's scary. Obsessions can often become hateful too so it's not that surprising he turned on you guys 🫠
That’s exactly what I thought too
Yeah that was veeery interesting and added motive that made the weird level of spite behind the video make way more sense
Ya, those DMs should be a lesson on how weird you look if you act familiar with people you watch on TH-cam whom at this level might as well be considered famous.
Just came here to comment this too!! Actually scary!!! Be careful h3 family!!!
frrr, i watched his video where he collabed with drew gooden bc i love drew and the vibes felt off. like drew wasn’t as close as friends with jake as jake made it out to be, it was awkward. like jake was an obsessed fan
1:59:04 "Maybe he doesnt have a sense of humor. Is that a condition?" Hila is killing him in this ep. Love watching her fiercely defend her man ❤
I also loved how she called herself a fan of the show. They are both so supportive of each other like partners should be.
i fucking lost it when AB said “i did pre-med for like 7 years so i should know”
And him wearing a nurse uniform the whole ep 😂
Wait was that a bit?? because I genuinely believed it 😭😭 I don't know much about him as I'm just a casual watcher lol
@@wea9898 yeah he actually did pre med
Jake: YOU CAN'T DIAGNOSE YOURSELF
Also Jake: ITS ECZEMA OBVIOUSLY
I haven’t finished the video but that’s the most frustrating part so far (imo) the hypocrisy is just INSANE
Are you pretending he filmed this as Ethan said it? Who said eczema?
Fr
@@syrupthemcheeks335 2:01:22 found it for you
Literally
I can't wrap my head around the fact that Jake said his own father didn't believe he had lyme disease and has a lot of trauma surrounding that and then does this.
Lyme*
@@Username0467 ohh yes sorry I misremembered that
it's literally because chronic Lyme disease is NOT real and is REJECTED by most medical bodies. his dad is right lol
Yeah, Jake has been slipping from ironically mean and hateful to actually just mean and hateful. I used to watch most of his videos, but lately I find myself not liking how mean he is to people who don't deserve it, or even mean to people who do deserve it, but in a way that causes innocent people to catch strays. Like he'll diss someone's appearance repeatedly in a way that shames anyone who looks similar, without ever qualifying it like Ethan always does when he says things like "we love our short kings". No love from Jake these days.
Basically, Jake went from sweet and fun to hateful over the course of his main channel's popularity, and it sucks.
I hope if by some weird chance Jake reads this, he takes it as constructive. He is creative enough to make good content, and caring enough to be more compassionate with his language and criticism. I'd love to see him make a turn around back to being driven by a good cause and fun, creative content.
In all seriousness when we age, if our childhood traumas are not addressed, it’s not super uncommon for people to fall into the cycles that they were victim to as children themselves.
"Just be sick and fuck off." Made me laugh so hard. This dude is WILD. The audacity to act like you know Ethan's health issues more than Ethan and his doctors.
Also Jake definitely comes off as obsessive towards the whole crew. Very weird.
That'sgross that you would admit to enjoying that statement, but clearly H3H3 fans love that vitriol
@@squirrelgod598 Calling a person a "dum beach lou ser" over and over and over, telling them to "go be sick alone", to "talk to rocks", that their career is over... H3H3 fans love that vitriol so much they actually pretend it's normal to rationalize it
@@squirrelgod598 I haven't made a single suggestion to what Ethan has or likely has, all I can do is quote his words about what his doctors said and their provisional diagnoses, like "eczema", which people pretend came from Jake when it was actualy Jake saying what multiple of Ethan's doctors had said
@@syrupthemcheeks335 damn are you Ethan’s doctors? Do you know his health? Got all his check up notes? Ethan mentioned stool sables, have those results came back with eczema results yet, doctor sir?
@@syrupthemcheeks335your obsessive commenting is CRAZY, you’re in almost every single comment on this vid
Low key all the niche specialists who are show guests like chocolatiers and geologists are peak content for the neurodivergent community
Honestly yeah 😅
H3 podcast is an autistic haven no joke
EXACTLY
F*Yeah!!
3:52:16 h3 podcast is a neurodivergent safe haven fr
Him making fun of Ethan not pronouncing things correctly is not just bad faith. Its not just mean spirited. It literally ADDS NOTHING TO HIS ARGUMENT
Also ableist because Ethan is dyslexic and that's a main symptom of it
There’s compilations that are soooo long of him saying things wrong
meanwhile he pronounced Dalhousie completely wrong, dude's such a hypocrite lmao
But he has no argument to begin with, so might as well go for as many low blows as he can.
@@inmyworldkindagirleven if he wasn’t dyslexic, people don’t always have access to adequate education and speak however they speak. i absolutely hate people being picky about grammar when everyone didn’t grow up with the same learning resources. it’s scummy to assume and if you understand them, just act normal and be kind.
At this point I want Ethan to have lupus just to spite Jake.
That's a joke by the way if you're reading this Jake.
I thought the same thing but I was like .. maybe I’m taking this too far 💀 glad we both have fucked up thoughts 🤝
😂😂😂 gonna have to keep leavening foot notes to accommodate for how dumb he is lmao
Yeahhh I really hope Ethan doesn't commit to the bit this time :')
Prepare for a video title: When jokes go too far and threaten the lives of a community - Sbensonn shows its true colors
Looool
FOUR MONTHS?!?!?!? Jake spent FOUR months on this? That IS insane.
That being said he definitely wrote up that Excel spreadsheet on his own. Four months, lmao Jesus Christ dude.
@@murderotica_I suppose there’s a chance he had a script bc Dan has one for excel for super chats considering TH-cam doesn’t log them after they’re timed out 😅. So hopefully he had a script, bc if he didn’t, that’s genuinely stalker behavior 💀
As someone with a chronic health condition, seeing Ethan go through his struggles to find a diagnosis has actually been really great for me. I still struggle with symptoms and doctors shrugging their shoulders and saying “we need to run more tests” it sometimes gets too much. But seeing Ethan deal with his issues with lots of humour makes me feel better, and in a way, seen & understood. Fuck Jake’s video, fuck that he’s gatekeeping chronic health conditions and how someone ‘should’ deal with it. My sick body loves the H3 podcast.
I am in the same position right now, and my mom has lupus. At this point I don't really care what it is I just want to know so I can feel better. I can't manage to laugh at my own situation, but when Ethan got his positive ANA days after I got mine fuck did I laugh to tears. I hope you find answers soon, and I'm glad we both have this outlet! Peace & Luvv
yeah, i had a crazy journey of a lot of pain and lab work to finally pin down to chron disease, it's a very scary process! every disease comes to head and i legit tought i would die, but now im sympton free and responding amazinly to the treatment!!
@@arthurmmrthis!! I think the version of jake that went through that painful journey at 12 has changed into an angry clout chaser😞also i am so glad you figured it out!!!! So so happy for you! I’m still on my journey, and my neighbor had krohns too so of course it was the first thing i thought i had loll, but nope, it wasn’t that, and it wasn’t sjogrens or whatever, so now they think it’s a blood disorder or autoimmune🙄 lol again, so happy for you (and Jake i guess) for knowing what you’ve got and getting treated🥰🥰
Yes for real! This! It’s so hard out there looking for medical answers. I really appreciated Ethan being candid about what he’s going through.
This is the comment I came to make. I have been in literal HELL for the past year with symptoms that doctors can't explain that don't respond to treatment (and this is the second time I've had such a flare up, both lasting over a year with no help). I never found the "bit" offensive, in fact it was fully relatable - having no choice but to Google or ask ChatGPT because doctors aren't listening or making progress. My best friend also has chronic illness and we cope by joking about it all the time. Sometimes its all you can do to stop going insane.
“just be sick and fuck off” is one of my favorite ethan quotes thus far
Same! it's probably the most I've laughed at one of Ethan's throwaway quips in years 😆
Time stamp?
@@ughIrats 3:18:52
Hila actually killed this episode. Telling the jake dude on video not to talk to her was hilarious.
i havent laughed out loud like that in so long
@@JennaKal I did too
shes so cool and funny i love her so much mother
True queen. Not to mention her composure as this idiot drags Ethan through the mud. They have children and one more on the way. They don't need some desperate fan to make a video targeting Ethan for being open with everyone.
I love Ethan. I love hila. I love every H3 crew member. I think they handled it the best they could. I'm glad I downloaded Jake's video now that it's gone.
it was so incredible especially because i was thinking "ew dont talk to her like that" and then she said it hahah
This unhinged weirdo spent 4 months piecing together Ethan's medical history, did hours of Lupus googling, compiled dozens of video clips, sent ETHAN'S LABS to some random doctor of his choosing to gatekeep his results and then took it upon himself to diagnose Ethan. All that effort and he still misinterpreted every piece of information that he gathered 🤯This level of incompetency is utterly humiliating.
Also the fact that he has eczema doesn't negate the probability that he might also have lupus. I totally agree, he seems unhinged.
the fact that he mentioned ethan’s MOM too
Apparently Jake claims to have trauma from people in his life denying his illness too... because his own diagnosis of chronic lyme is nebulous at best. He is an onion of hypocrisy, and every layer stinks.
Reminder that "medical professional" does NOT equate to "doctor.". Anyone who works in the medical field can be considered a medical professional. And I think it's telling that Jake specifically said medical professional and not doctor.
@@setofreakinkaiba8553 One of the supposed lupus symptoms actually being eczema removes a way to reason to the explanation being lupus, which lowers the probability of it being lupus
Hilas fallen fan joke "didnt know fallen fans fall on their heads" ABSOLUTELY SLAYED
In my language we have a saying; "they talk very little but it's all on point", freely translated. That's Hila 😂
I know, Hila doesn’t talk much, but when she does she’s straight to the point 😂❤️
Hila had some real bangers this ep
”Don’t talk to me” absolute gold
Timestamp?
This is such a small gripe, but as someone who has also been made fun of for the way I talk, it was really disappointing to see Jake keep going back to Ethan’s “mispronunciations” as a way to prove he is stupid/a liar/uneducated. Olivia was right, it’s such a mean point, and although I don’t know if it will affect Ethan in this way, overall that exact talking point makes people self-conscious to literally speak, which is how most people communicate. It’s so crummy.
Fr like who cares if someone stumbled their words sometimes, if I can understand it there’s no problem
this for sure cause like ethan is the mf you know that will not say something correct. that and he literally has tics from his anxiety causing him to even stutter that time. looking to ethan for coherent speech is basically ableist if we're going down that route and jake only seems to care about his agenda, not people w actual problems
@@nedvicky20It's so sad when disabled people are ableist. Society is not going to like you because you agree with them and get in your box! We need to stand together!
what’s funny about the “are you on the spectrum” poll is i have zero problem believing 48% of us are 💀
Made me laugh so hard 😂😂😂
No fr after being on the subreddit I believe it lmao
Me too I was like nah it is lowkey my autistic playground 🛝 lol so seeing the 50 was like damn that’s cool not just me but there’s a good bunch of us lol
@@jambalayajam right lmao my autistic ass thinks in zach’s sound bites
oh we out here for sure🎉🎉🎉
As a lupus girly, the entire bit had me cry laughing. Lupus is serious but my god. It’s okay to laugh.
dude, love ya
Right. I’m t1d with a few other things, and my coworkers think I’m morbid for saying I’ll probably die by 80 and might have a few missing toes. Sometimes ya gotta joke through the pain
Just my opinion but based on the fact he had contacted multiple crew members prior and was supposedly a fan, Jake’s video was just a way to spite Ethan. He wanted to be involved in the H3 cinematic universe, but since he didn’t make it as a crew member or friend of the show he chose the dark side.
Well he got the attention he wanted
Dr. Doolittle is sitting there medically gaslighting Ethan for an hour about a possibility of autoimmune diseases… which are already overlooked by many doctors.
So.. jake, in the process of “advocating” for autoimmune diseases you have successfully managed to promote ignoring symptoms that are already overlooked..
gold star buddy ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Don't say "gaslighting". We're trying to be better than that
@@ElChuntyCabra girl shut up 💕
@@ElChuntyCabramaking an hour long vid trying to convince an stranger on the internet that they are invalid about being anxious about symptoms and blood work … trying to make Ethan feel like his reality is something else saying it’s ezcema , trying to convince us that he was trying to get donations because he has lupus … that’s gaslighting babes
When people discredit someone for not being able to pronounce something or saying something grammatically incorrect, it just shows their moral superiority. Because the most important thing in communication is that the message gets across. It doesn't have to be perfectly recited, just simply expressed.
exactly, thats one of my biggest pet peeve’s honestly
Out of all the problematic things Ethan has said Jake decided to make and essay on his medical anxiety basically xD something a lot of people suffer from 😂
It honestly kills me because Jake has a chronic illness. Like he must relate to the experience so so many people with chronic illness go through of seeing specialist after specialist and each visit amounting to breadcrumbs and no definitive answer. Heck, I have a shit ton of autoimmune symptoms and have simply given up and accepted that I am going to suffer from bouts of unexplained hives and edema, pain, frequent infections, etc. because I don’t have the patience or money to continue to seek a diagnosis. The process is scary and frustrating and Ethan was just sharing it with his audience.
@@jilllime3824 this!! especially since his Jake's illness is very rare, hard to diagnose, and he has talked about dealing with people accusing him of faking his illness/symptoms. i truly don't understand his thought process behind this video
@@jilllime3824he actually got his diagnoses pretty young in chronic illness terms (like 18-21 I think, just around when he became an adult) so I think he’s actually very privileged in that regard, more than he even really understands 😅
Anyone with an OUNCE of health anxiety can 100% relate to Ethan’s thought process and actions throughout his journey.
And it’s very important to be self educated and to do your research, with anxiety or without!
I’ve worked with people with this kind of health anxiety before and it can be all consuming. Talking it out with other people and finding ways to brighten your perspective is a big part of working through your fears
Exactly jakes way of even saying or is he just a hypochondriac. Anyone with hypochondria knows it’s brutal and can be debilitating. Or him saying “just eczema” when so many ppl suffer from severe eczema and self image issues. The way he is saying ethan is using lupus for sympathy when he’s fine but then saying every other issue is not as bad as lupus is so ironic.
100%. It was sooooo obtuse of Dr. Doolittle to not see Ethan's actions as those of a person suffering from, and trying effectively to deal with, health anxiety.
@@igd123 you also don’t have a podcast where you share your life
jake’s lack of empathy for medical anxiety in this video is really weird. i’ve been to the doctors and freaked out over much less even when they told me everything was fine. as much as i trust doctors, my anxiety will have me convinced that im gonna die 😭 he acts like he’s never met someone who’s scrolled webMD and are convinced that they have a brain tumor because of a headache. that’s a huge part of anxiety, it’s not always rational and people with anxiety often catastrophize things even when everyone is telling them they’re fine. for someone who tries to be very sensitive to people with autoimmune diseases, i would think that he would be more understanding of mental health conditions like anxiety?
Like if you think something is wrong with you, you need to research everything medically related to you BUT don't research online, don't speculate anything, don't joke about anything to lighten the mood, don't have hope, and just wait until you 10000% know what you have before you say anything!
Exactly!!! I have a ton of health anxiety and would consider myself a hypochondriac, and I’ve definitely catastrophized even if everyone told me I was fine. I didn’t feel fine and that was that.
This is relatively gross but I got a case of toenail fungus that I never got around to treating & my toenails started to fall off. This happened on like a Friday night so I freaked the absolute fuck out till my appointment on Tuesday about it & they were like no you’re fine just take these pills. BUT the whole time I was so concerned and stressed about the whole situation while the whole time I was fine. Looking back it seems so silly but at the time I was spiraling. So yes I agree. And also Ethan is just joking but alas everything has to be taken absolutely so seriously now that jokes aren’t jokes. And to finish, a lot of people calm their anxiety by comedic relief, myself included. It’s not that deep. Not deep enough to start drama at least
Exactly. And it's not even like Ethan had an overly crazy amount of anxiety either! He was having actual symptoms, and actual test results that could potentially be indicative of something serious.
Getting those kinds of things diagnosed (or being able to conclusively determine that there ISNT any sort of serious diagnosis) takes time. It's normal to feel concerned about that, and to worry about what it could be. I really think he had a pretty healthy/normal amount of anxiety given the circumstances.
It's not like he was freaking out and terrified... The whole lupus thing was literally just "it COULD possibly be that, I had a test result that indicated it could be possible, and I do have similar symptoms". And then it became a huge joke/meme. It was never this actual huge serious emotional "OMFG GUYS I THINK I HAVE LUPUS 😭😭 IM SO SCARED!!!!!" it was just fkn "it could MAYBE be that but I don't know" and not even being emotional at the possibility..... And then playing along with the jokes when people started making them.
I have extremely bad medical anxiety. Jake's video enraged me. Ethan made it clear every time that it was something that was in progress not a lupus diagnosis. It was good for him to openly talk abt it honestly for people like me who have a hard time even getting myself to the doctor. I also have a chronic illness just incase Jake sees this and wants to yell at me lol
As someone battling lupus for 10+ years I appreciated the awareness Ethan brought to the disease! I appreciated his transparency in the way he talked about his testing process and the conversations about what lupus can look like. I also got a kick out of the lupus jokes. This disease is awful and very personal for me and at no point was I ever offended by the lupus conversations on the show❤
Sending you well wishes!
LMAO Hila was cracking me up this episode “not understanding humour, is that a condition?” when Dolittle addressed her “Don’t talk to me” 😂
As someone who also has a chronic illness calling someone a hypochondriac for thinking they have something that perhaps they don’t have is unbelievably insulting. So many of these illnesses take years to diagnose and when I would come across something that sounded like my symptoms I’d feel relief and hope that I might finally get treatment. In no way is it an insult to those with the disease to think you have one. Who made this guy the president of the chronic illness club and why didn’t I get to vote?
YESSS!
I'm not versed enough, but wasn't "hypochondriac" something people with chronic illness were historically called instead of trying to understand them?
You haven’t been a citizen long enough. Sorry bro.
That’s why I didn’t even watch it. It’s such a disrespectful thing to throw around.
I saw that video at the same time as i noticed from his gf’s channel that he has a Trisha kitchen crying shower curtain from years ago and i just got the ick from the combo lol and i unsubbed from both of them, they’re obsessive fr! Obviously Trisha is funny and the lupus jokes are funny i just think they take it so far
AMAZING work Doolittle, talks about the hardships he had being misdiagnosed and people not sure what he has, but angry that Ethan wants a diagnosis and is worried about bad diseases. Genius gate keeping. And setting back your own platform of helping people with diseases.
😭 RIGHT? if yourself or anyone in your family has experienced health issues i feel like it usually makes people encourage spreading awareness, not shaming people for thinking about their health - lots of people wish they had paid attention when symptoms of an underlying condition were mild or confusing!
Hit the nail on the head.
Yeah it’s very horrifying and at the same time impressive how not self aware you can be!
as someone with severe health ocd, the dolittle video made me so fucking pissed. way to make everyone with health anxiety feel even crazier than people already make them feel, which will in turn make the obsessions worse. awesome.
You're so valid, its very understandable to be worried or obesessive over ones health and it does absolutely not mean youre seeking attention or whatever this guy thinks.
@@talonhammer thank you!!!!!!
Yes the whole lupus bit helped me have humor about my own anxieties and undiagnosed health problems...100%
Im so sorry. OCD is such a fucking debilitating illness.
Mine isn’t with health issues but numbers/ counting etc but the intrusive thoughts often leave me worrying about health. If I don’t do one of my rituals, my intrusive thoughts make me think people I love will get sick or hurt 😞
@@bethi2349 ugh i’m so sorry as well, i know how it can deeply affect your life😭 that is just awful.
Marc Elliot - “have a good night”
Sebastian - “i just want to be left alone”
Oli - “it’s just a lunch box”
Pearl - *sigh*
xQc - 🪱
Jake Doolittle- I will do anything to make this stop.
Why do people just keep serving Ethan slam dunks on a silver platter. 😩 Does EVERYONE have a humiliation fetish or something
Have a good night
xqc LMAO
I have a severe chronic illness and your jokes about figuring out what’s wrong with you make me laugh so freaking hard. I swear I would be heartbroken if we all stop making lupus jokes anytime Ethan has an ailment. No one here thinks lupus isn’t serious…it’s just a joke.
Same
those jokes also probably brought more awareness to these things than this jake guys for profit merch ever has.
Jake is treating Ethan the exact same way the medical community treats us when we come down with chronic illness
Edit: ugh I have ME/CFS and my heart just broke when Ethan said “it can’t be normal to be this fatigued”. It’s not 😢
WAS WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO SAY THIS 😭 i have family members who’ve dealt with chronic illness and it’s absolute hell to deal with doctors who don’t care or write them off as a hypochondriac for wanting to figure out what’s wrong - “you’re crazy, this is probably nothing, you’re overreacting, you don’t have ALL the symptoms”, it’s textbook
this is so true which is crazy it’s like he’s gate keeping being chronically ill. i guess i could understand how, if you had a chronic illness, you could get annoyed by hypochondriacs like repeatedly spreading fear for (probably not) having the disease that you have. but to make this video is actually insane i can’t believe he didn’t think from any other perspective before posting that vid
My thoughts exactly. Jake being someone who claims to care for this community, you’d think he’d see how hypocritical his video was, but alas.
Ikr. You're doing all this for attention! 🤪 You're just a hypochondriac! It's just (insert generic harmless health issue here, to dismiss your concerns)!
Ya it’s very much giving medical gaslighting 🤣
Hila killed it this episode. She is really funny when it comes to defending ethan which is cute
Hell yeah! Hila one-liners can be absolute bangers.
This kid sent Ethan's info to a doctor without his consent? WTF? Did I hear that correctly?
Honestly! Like this isn’t a Dream MC cheating scandal, man violated healthcare security/ safety protocols and payed a doctor off just for a lame hit piece
Yup, he’s using triangulation to convince Ethan he’s fine 🫠 but go off Jake the disability advocate 😂
@@jijil9060 NEVER STOP (questioning others medical and health stasis’s that don’t affect or include me at all.)
Not a doctor, a medical professional. Which somehow makes that even worse because who knows what level of knowledge they even have. Anyone who works in the medical field can be considered a medical professional.
@@TheSaiyanPrincess89 true, thank you. I remembered I volunteered with the kids there at the hospital before, I could be called a medical professorial there too when I don’t have medical qualifications yk compared to what the actual nurses and doctors there have, when I was just a babysitter in there
As someone with lupus and who is also a medical student, sometimes the way Ethan would talk about it vaguely annoyed me because he clearly didn’t know much about it. BECAUSE OF COURSE HE DOESNT! Rheumatological illnesses are INSANELY complicated! It’s the reason we send people to the rheumatologist! I thought about it for maybe half a second, thought man I wish I could explain it to him, and that was IT. Because I’m not a complete psychopath.
exactly . ethan doesn’t know much ab it and is genuinely worried ab what is causing his very real problems. and now doolittle is able to tell him he doesnt have something ?? why is that up to him to decide when literal doctors miss that shit
Preach. I'm an HR student who also has a bachelor in law. When I hear people having rather ignorant takes about my specialties, either I gently correct them and move on with my life. It's not that complicated. Life is too short to be angry at such trivial things.
@@demeterm4813 You think Jake was not gentle, was angry? Would you say Ethan was not gentle, and was angry?
@@syrupthemcheeks335I think you’re forgetting the part where Jake accused Ethan of something horrible completely unprovoked
@@syrupthemcheeks335 i mean doolittle definitely wasn’t gentle and he was purposefully uncharitable
Sending someone else’s medical info (whether they’ve put it out publicly online or not) to a random doctor to evaluate and give you an opinion when you have no relationship with the person just to prove a point is so so weird and creepy. I’ve never heard of this guy before todays ep but wow does he come across as bitter that someone who has money might also have a health issue and they might be able to treat it better or easier because they aren’t struggling for money.
I genuinely can’t believe a doctor agreed to do this. If they did, I’m sure they didn’t know it was going to be part of a TH-cam video. That is so unethical I don’t even know where to begin.
@@holly.earendil5187Right!! I’m still so baffled that he’d not only do that but then go on to say he’s done this in a public TH-cam video where he’s trying to come across as morally superior.
meanwhile he also got his ANA titer tested for funsies to “show off” his numbers to minimize ethan’s 🥴
@holly.earendil5187 Not an excuse but Jake could've lied and said Ethan was a family member.
I love how protective AB is over Ethan.
Seriously so sweet 😭😭 AB is such a good egg
Feels like he actually understands ethan
I love seeing everyone getting passionate and defending Ethan. It's very wholesome.
You don't mess with the family
We must protect our father
Family
I don't go here but telling a father of a young family with a baby on the way to not worry about indicators of cancer and autoimmune disorders is just cruel
she doesn’t even go here!!
they go to a different school do little!!
Right! As someone with chronic illness I can not believe the way he tried to gatekeep the way Ethan expressed his experience on the road to get an accurate diagnosis (which is already an extremely hard gate to cross dude).
Is it though? you sound like a weirdo
I don't think its that deep from either perspective
“He’s almost excited to receive a diagnosis.” No shit, when you’ve tried for a year to find out what is ailing you, a diagnosis is everything! Not knowing exactly what’s wrong with you prohibits treatment for the illness and it’s anxiety inducing to not know. Who wouldn’t be happy?
Exactly. When I got diagnosed with an auto-immune disease, was I excited? Of course not. But was I thrilled that maybe now I could treat my disease with medications and stop the massive hair loss? For sure! Was so happy to hear my hair may actually recover! Tried different medications, finally found one that worked, and while my hair isn't where it was before, atleast chunks aren't missing and I'm no longer in pain.
THANK YOU I WAS JUST ABOUT TO COMMENT THIS
Same. I was very happy to finally just have an answer
Absolutely! It’s validation, an opportunity to understand your body better and a chance to get better!
A diagnosis is scary, but it’s also such a relief. An answer! Validation that you’re not crazy! A treatment plan!
double commenting bc I love irony:
Jake doesn’t think Ethan has lupus bc it’s a women’s disease. I hope nobody tells him about men with breast cancer
Jake: "i have declared those men to be clout goblins"
THAT WAS MY EXACT THOUGHT. I had an insurance company once deny me a colonoscopy because “that’s only for old people”. It such a harmful take to say that. Like people get misdiagnosed all the time because of that claim.
If you told a doctor you thought you had a thing, and they said "you don't have any of the symptoms", and then you said "but I still think I have it", and they replied "It's very rare in your age/gender/location", did they Doctor just say something irrelevant?
@@syrupthemcheeks335found the Jake alt
@@syrupthemcheeks335almost like Jake isn’t a doctor lmao
Honestly the 'Lupus arc' has been one of my favorites. It was actually really calming and relatable. It can be super scary to have a problem and not know what it is, and spiral from it. Seeing Ethan add humor to it made it such a gem. I can't believe that guy spent countless hours writing, filming, and editing this video. He could've done this video ironically, and it could've been amazing. But seriously attacking you for freaking out over your health IS insane.
I remember when ethan would always complain about not being able to lose weight. It was clearly effecting his metal health. He looks so amazing. Healthy and happy. He deserves it.
Jake was giving insanely creepy almost stalker vibes. Like he’s way too obsessed reaching out to the entire crew and tracking ab down
isn't that exactly how AB and Olivia got their jobs on the podcast? by being weird stalkers lmfao
Legit made me think of the old H3 vid about the weird polish guru with the goofy ass Ellen and stalking Gaga LMAOOOO
@@pinguufuuuu AB made a video, Jakes did research for four months to tell Ethan he's not sick as if he's more reputable than Ethan
@@pinguufuuuuthat's what u think stalking is? U very obviously don't have a career because what ur describing is called "networking." Like when mailmen deliver ur mail or doctors call u on ur phone, do you squeal "STALKING" too?
Edit: my god your comment history lol
@ScratchMarc. it's giving Jake's sock account
Poor Zach, Chantal, and especially Bambi. Hope the doggie heals physically, and you all heal mentally from this incident. May the rest of your healing journeys be peaceful.
"Maybe he just doesn't have a sense of humour, is that a condition?" HILA YOU HAVE ME ROLLING
I have some significant medical issues (PCOS, Endometriosis, Hidradenitis Supperativa, and kidney stones) and my medical anxiety from the trauma of trying to receive help for those issues affects me deeply. Ethan advocating for his own health with a sense of humor has always been inspiring and empowering to me. I have been told that I cannot feel pain on my ovaries, since they don’t have any nerve endings while I had a ruptured cyst bleeding into my abdominal cavity (which hurt like hell). I’ve been told that if I had a kidney stone I wouldn’t be able to sit across from the doctor and tell him about it (I fucking did and ended up having to deliver my oldest child early because of it). I’ve been told excessive pain and bleeding after my C-section was totally normal and then needed multiple surgeries to remove scar tissue from endo later that week or I would have bled to death. I’ve been blamed for not appearing to be in enough pain so that the doctors could accurately diagnose me when I described WITH MY WORDS exactly how much pain I’m in, and I’ve been told that I was being hysterical when I screamed and cried in pain because I had lost all hope. There are so many stories like mine in these comments and so many of us have found some solace in Ethan’s medical journey. I hope he never stops advocating for himself and gets all of the answers he needs to achieve his best quality of life, something that is extremely difficult to do with the state of our medical industrial complex. I am currently 7 months pregnant with my second baby and every day I practice in front of a mirror, “I would like to request a different nurse/doctor,” and “I would like to speak to a patient advocate right now.”
I am so sorry to read about your jouney, but I also admire you deeply. You are strong ❤
Power to you ❤️ I've been needing to watch the whole segment about Jake's video in small doses cuz it's pissing me off so much. Really infuriating how he claims to have some sort of chronic illness himself, yet is so quick to be so dismissive of someone else who is struggling with unknown health issues. He's saying the exact type of shit that people with chronic illnesses often hear. "Oh you're just being a hypochondriac, it's nothing, it's probably just this really stupidly obvious common thing that doesn't actually explain your symptoms, calm down and shut up, you're being dramatic"
@@ninaeatspie thank you so much for your kindness ♥️ everyone who survives every day in this world is so strong
@@meowJACK That is exactly how I felt about it! Like how can you go through the process of being diagnosed and display so little empathy?! When Ethan said something along the lines of, “I don’t know what’s wrong, but it just can’t be normal to feel like this every day,” my heart broke because I have been there so often! Hearing that nothing is wrong with me and wondering if this is just what normal life feels like is enough to cause anyone to feel hopeless and alone, which is why this stuff needs to be talked about and taken seriously.
As someone with chronic illnesses, one of the universal experiences is spending months or years trying to figure out what is going on with yourself. I actually found a strange comfort in watching Ethan go through a similar thing even though he has far more resources and great medical care. The truth is that human bodies are weird and confusing and a lot of things are hard to diagnose, during that process you simply have to talk it out or it will eat you alive. Not knowing is so much scarier than figuring out possibilities and realizing you can learn to live with or treat them all; that's all i saw with Ethan's lupus saga, trying to find answers and find peace with potentials
All this being said, i really do hope Ethan figures out what is causing these issues, nobody deserves to be dismissed even if their symptoms seem to be insignificant to an outside observer
Not to be that person lol, but as someone with a chronic illness/auto immune disease the Lupus discourse was my ABSOLUTE FAVOURITE content from last year. It was so hilarious and dangled the line beautifully. If you cannot find humour in terrible things life would not be worth living. Being able to relate to the content while also being able to laugh about it at the same time was glorious.
Knowing how much he hounded the crew members for a collab I wanna know if he did the same for the popular creators he collabed with in the past
🤔interesting, I’m curious as well too.
I always wondered why jake’s collabs (like kurtis conner, drew gooden, danny gonzalez) were all on his channel without making a video for the other person’s channel lol.
there’s no way of knowing of course tho. after this whole thing cane out, adam mcintyre said their collab was mutual & he really liked jake so he was rly surprised about this whole thing. but then again it seemed like adam agreed quickly so there was no hounding needed 😂
@havierbardem820that honestly sucks so much. Like bro, just do it yourself or don’t do it at all 🥴
My mom got diagnosed with Hashimoto's, an autoimmune disorder. I watched her fight and claw and question doctors for YEARS before she finally got a diagnosis. She was so scared and frustrated that she did a lot of research on her own. I think it gave her some power back and also helped her advocate for herself.
Ethan - you were doing what normal people do. Questioning symptoms. Doing your own research. And above all else, sharing your journey with others. Obviously no one who has followed your journey thinks anything of all of this.
I actually started watching Jake in 2023 because the algorithm was pushing him so hard (I follow Drew Gooden, Kurtis, Danny, Jarvis and the like, so I'm sure that's why). But a lot of times I felt like his arguments werent funny, original, or creative. That was when he was critiquing genuine idiots I didn't know.
You have every right to feel hurt and defend yourself. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
God the same thing happened to me. He was always such a smug asshole.
Exactly, my cousin spent years with symptoms of fatigue that all the doctors said was fibromyalgia but she knew it wasn't that, she did research for herself and finally found a doctor who listened to her. She has multiple schlorosis, imagine if she were to wait for a diagnosis and accept it without going deeper into her exams.
I know this comment is old but just want to say congratulations on your mother for finding that strength to fight for herself, I have a very similar condition to what she has autoimmune wise, and I KNEW something was wrong with me, when I was taken to hospital due to feinting the doctors accused me of being on drugs! Id never taken them in my life! When I said I wasn't on drugs he rolled his eyes! I had to hound them over and over again for them to do the correct tests on me.. finally got diagnosed. Crazy what people have to put up with just to get the right treatment, it really is like a fight.
I have a couple of points: Jacob knows what a joke is; he's being deliberately obtuse so that he can make Ethan look bad. It's like someone joking about running over their own grandmother for a Klondike Bar and being like "Oh really? You'd kill your own loved ones for a a trivial treat?!" Same goes for taking health-related Superchats and claiming that people are donating out of sympathy. You donate to get your superchat read by the streamer, which he knows as someone who livestreams on TH-cam fairly often. It's clear to me that these people wanted to be a part of the conversation and offer their own knowledge and experiences. Finally, this came out in December, and he teased it beforehand as this major expose. What other devastating expose came out last month? Hbomberguy's video about plagiarism. He saw the success of that and tried to replicate it in some way. Allegedly-for-entertainment-purposes-only-in-Minecraft.
you give him way too much credit, hes definitely just an autistic dude who doesnt understand social cues
This manlet is so obtuse, Sean Stephens is about to write a song about him.
"It's all funny unless it's something I care about" vibes. Burr called em out ages ago, there's plenty like it. Suddenly everything's serious and not funny or a joking matter.
he was def trying to go for a hbomberguy style expose. especially trying to find people who were effected by the things ethan was saying but the spreadsheet filled with every single donation was the biggest giveaway lmaooo
@@thevoid7332I AM RECTANGULAR
thank god bambi is okay 🥺 so sorry that happened zach. broke my heart a little bit when he said “bambi cant tell us when he’s in pain” hope he recovers quickly
What Jake did makes me so mad. He knows first hand how terrible it feels to have someone dismiss your symptoms or call you a hypochondriac and he does it to someone else. Hard to feel bad for him when he cries over hate comments saying his illness is fake
Doctor Dolittle’s video is the ultimate example of someone who ‘really thought they did something’.
I 100% believe the reason his video was so mean and bad faith was because he was so butthurt about none of the crew noticing him and giving him attention or a job lmao.
and i saw a comment from a pathologist that said chronic lyme is not a real condition and typically is actually other autoimmune problems or conditions like chronic fatigue or fibromyalgia - i couldn’t understand how someone could make a video so hateful and mean until i realized i think he’s projecting?
YUUUUPPPPP
I will never not believe that all of the weird/hateful h3 redditors are just people like this dude lol
I just feel really bad for AB he got badgered into a collab with this dude and is clearly uncomfortable about it. Fuckin sucks
I thought I was crazy, but I could tell back when that collab was released (I was a Jake fan) AB was visibly uncomfortable, and the video felt weird to watch. Now I have an explanation as to why, AB WAS uncomfortable and hating it.
he’s a clout pest
@@enexius67I feel like a lot of his collabs feel so forced and awkward, like he’s done some with Drew Gooden and Danny Gonzalez and they always feel so off idk
@@omnixphobiai can’t even imagine want danny and drew’s dms from him looked like
@@enexius67 weird take. Was AB blackmailed or something? He's not a hostage, he's a clout shark - even chasing after it on small channels
I about lost it when Ethan said “If you have medical bills that are crushing you or causing you problems, send it to Dan”😂💕
This guy is one of those people who makes trauma and illness a competitive sport. He has to be the sickest one. He thinks he has the monopoly on tuff times.
I'm glad Jake got the attention he wanted.
Not the attention he wanted, but the attention he deserved. Lmaoo
If I didn’t go to the doctor after self-diagnosing my symptoms, they never would have found my unruptured brain aneurysm. It's almost like... people know when something's wrong with their bodies... and they can look up those things that feel wrong
100%. The web can spread misinformation but it can also empower people to get something checked out. This is especially important for ailments that could be caught earlier on and for groups of people who are often ignored or underdiagnosed (women, people of color, etc.)
Omg I’m glad you’re ok 🙏 that’s scary
that is so scary! im glad you got the help you needed
Can I ask what were your symptoms? I’m glad you’re now okay.
@207humanity yeah! It started with a really horrible headache in the middle of the night. Within a minute turned into the worst pain of my life but I didn't go to the hospital because it went away for the most part after like half an hour. I was looking it up that night and everything said aneurysm and I was also noticing some weird visual things in my left eye. I went to the doctor and told her about all of that and she said, "you're probably fine but we can get some scans to be safe". Two months later I was getting surgery at Johns Hopkins. It turned out the headache was most likely a "warning leak" so I'm very glad that my PCP took me seriously and sent me off for scans! A lot of people would have been brushed off so I got very lucky
I truly think he knew what he was doing this whole time making this video. He clearly has been wanting your attention for years and this is probably his plan to finally get on the H3 podcast in a weird and twisted way.
right?? i imagine he pictured getting a chance to call in or become part of h3 lore
a million percent yes
I can’t even describe how great it is to get that hit of h3 again
Moral of the story: if Jake actually gave a shit about the Lupus bit, why was he reaching out to the crew and begging for a spot on the show and attending the live show all after the bit had already begun?
I have chronic illness (an autoimmune disorder), and I wasn’t offended by the Lupus bit at all. I believe at one point Ethan was genuinely concerned he had Lupus. I had the same concerns for myself when seeking a diagnosis. But when it turned into a tongue-in-cheek joke about being a hypochondriac, I thought it was totally lighthearted and funny. We also don’t know yet that Ethan is okay. Maybe not Lupus, but getting a diagnosis can take time.
Jake is a classic example of a doctoro-file. As the daughter of 2 doctors I’ve met these obsessed types. It’s especially common with those who have been chronically ill and look up to doctors as their superheroes. It’s CRINGE af
I’ve never heard of that. Every chronically ill or disabled person I know, myself included, hate doctors. Interesting that some people go the opposite direction with it.
Oh yeah, I’ve chatted with a guy who repeatedly tried to diagnose me with different mental disorders every time I said something he didn’t like. Being chronically ill myself, I’ve learned to stay the fuck out of people’s medical business, but not everyone catches on to that lesson unfortunately.
@@taurusandlibra2638 I also have a chronic illness and I'm part of many chronic pain communities and dude, people HATE doctors like, they really see them as petulent unsympathetic children, sometimes even to a fault
My mom passed away from complications of lupus. It took years and years to get diagnosed. And she never once complained even with the tremendous pain.
What finally did it was the butterfly rash on her face. I think she would be happy that people were even talking about lupus. I used to have to explain what it was to everyone I met. I miss her everyday.
And I’ve wanted to comment this when Ethan first started talking about what he was going through…
Thank you for sharing. I hope you are doing okay and your mum is at peace now💜
I’m so sorry for your mom, thank you for sharing her story 💜
So sorry for your loss ❤️ I’m glad you find that any type of awareness is helpful! That was my view on it too
At the beginning of Ethan's Lupus saga, I started to get similar inflammatory and symptoms with really high blood values for inflammatory markers (CRP, ESR). Its weird because we got the same tests around the same time, and honestly watching Ethan joke about it gave me so much relief. Throughout this process, about everyone in my life told me not to worry about it and started throwing out diagnoses like strained muscles, gluten intolerance, or gastrointestinal inflammation caused by poor diet. For context, I am also studying medicine so this is particularly irritating to me. People like Dr. Doolittle mad me think I was crazy for being worried, which is so destructive and self-absorbed-- something they teach us not to do to patients. Without a single risk factor, I was eventually diagnosed with a golf ball-sized blood clot in my femoral vein, also referred to as DVT (and later post-thrombotic syndrome which is chronic). This is extremely rare, (24 y/o F) so much so that my doctors had no studies to reference to treat women in my age group and relied on treatment recommendations for older or elderly populations. Nothing about Ethan's journey is offensive, if anything I find his transparency refreshing because it is normal to worry and try to find an explaination (its human nature!). He understands he is not a doctor, FFS he did a Lupus poll! Don't gatekeep chronic illness, its harmful and really stupid, with P+L :)
good luck my dear!
It took me a year to finally get my diagnosis for Endometriosis, after two ER visits and a misdiagnosis. Endo is a horrible disorder I’ll have for the rest of my life and is basically untreatable, it has changed my life. Ethan’s medical journey is funny and made my journey easier. That’s all, just funny and relatable for me. ✌🏻&❤
same!!!!
The amount of times doctors told me, or alluded, it was all in my head before actually getting my Endo diagnosis/surgery was the most brutal part of the "journey" for me. Another reason why I related to Ethan's anger and frustration with Jake's video. Not having answers doesn't mean that nothing is happening and it is such a stressful part of any medical issue. All the peace and love to anyone struggling, diagnosis or not ✌❤
@paddycakes. Not having answers is soooooooo frustrating, I wanted to vent and talk about it but it’s so hard, you start to feel like you’re crazy, like what you’re feeling isn’t real or it’s just anxiety. It’s really gross that Jake completely misses how that is a huge part of figuring out what is going on, the medical “journey” is so exhausting and scary.
Wishing you the best. I got my endo excision lap a few weeks ago and things have been so much better. Hoping you find a treatment that eases your pain somewhat sometime soon ❤
also f endo
same but i have PCOS, took having a mental breakdown as a teenager for doctors to take me seriously. sending hugs 🫂
My mom got injured at work due to negligence from her employer. They wouldn’t pay her medical bills so she took them to court. Doolittle’s argument reminds me of her employers defense lawyer. They basically gaslit her, picked apart every diagnosis and test, and then made shit up and said she was self diagnosing even though at the same time dismissing the results from when she saw doctors. She won the lawsuit but this kind of attempt to publicly gaslight someone about their own medical issues leaves a really bad taste in my mouth. You know your own body. Don’t let people like Doolittle try to trick you into thinking otherwise.
my family had something similar happen, but combined with private detectives who stalked my whole family for 8 months and doctored footage so it looked like we were lying. the effort people will go through to diminish those who struggle with disability or health anxiety is insane
@@mothdotslotWow, that’s so damn terrifying. I really you and your family are doing well ❤