I agree with what you have put forwards. It appears to me that a 'safe' overtake is generally considered to be on that is successful ie. it comes about without a collision. It apparently matters not that some drivers or motorcyclists ended up swerving or taking other avoidance to avoid one. That's all that some drivers and riders want, get and accept. An only just made it by the skin of my teeth overtake. Unfortunately as you point out overtaking is the most dangerous of manoeuvres for both cars and motorcycles. Head on collision at a combined speed of 100 mph will make mincemeat of any body on a bike, Whilst a car can have safety features such as seat belts and collapsible areas that will absorb any massive impact a biker only has his clothing and his skin and bones to hold him together . Personally I do blame the authorities, both governmental and training and that includes what we teach in so called Advanced riding. It needs a complete overhaul of teaching practises and procedures with regards to our safety and the safety of all other road users on overtakes. That is not going to happen unless there is first a recognition and admission of a problem. That will never happen. Something that has been allowed to go wrong, very wrong and they have all buried their heads in the sand and allowed to happen without any previous intervention. So change is not going to happen as no one will admit to the making any mistakes and the carnage will remain on our roads.
Yes I agree with what you said , I don’t like the way manufacturers are producing these bikes with such big horse power, that’s only needed on the race track . I love my little 350 classic Enfield, it’s so nice to enjoy the country side and stop off at cafe and it will do the speed limit once I’ve run it in so you don’t need any more. 👍🏍️
Fully agree. I know that road very well. I wouldn't even attempt those overtakes on my bike let alone in a car. The problem is that these idiots often end up killing or seriously injuring someone else.
Good video. Overakes in darkness can have make it much harder to guess the speed of oncoming vehicles. Some roads have solid lines where overtakes could work fine. Others have inappropriate placing of broken &/or hazard lines. Some lazy overtakes can arguably be as dangerous as higher speed ones. I did not have any training in my DAS re overtaking. My instructor actually stated he did not train it within DAS ! Executing overtakes at or around speed limits can arguably increase risk...especially if the speed difference between vehicle being overtaken & overtaking vehicle is narrow. On the bike I had brought some transferable skills but had to adapt same &/or teach myself bike specific overtaking skills. Various things to consider when overtaking on a bike including, acceleration, considered use of stepping stones, (which can be an art in itself), grip, closing speeds, hard to see road defects, blindspots , considering lifesavers, stability, not being seen, camber etc...the list goes on. I generally do not favour progressive group rides with unknown &/or untrusted participants. Thanks 👍 🏍
Thanks for your comments AW8. You raise some very valid points and sadly overtaking doesn’t figure highly in das. It’s madness really. I still think there are a lot of changes needed. All the best
@@MotorcyclePWRAgree re DAS (& training fo other DVSA tests). We have to be realistic... Overtaking at higher speeds is not a rariity..... Many work it out for themselves &/or by copying biker mates -but sometimes with mixed results & consequences. Thanks again 👋👍🏍
You are correct about solid white lines. Often when roads are repainted the broken lines are replaced with one continuous white line. So it was legal before to overtake but not now. I’m in Ireland.
They often don’t get much further I’ve quite often got to a round about and the crazy driver who flew past me dangerously ends up just in front at the island , it’s just not worth it .
Another useful video, as a new motorcycle rider ( but experienced car driver) i enjoy your content. As you say, its all down to patience. All those clips could have been catastrophic collisions. People are nuts. Ride safe.
Very good video. Unfortunately, the people who need to see this won't 😢 think some of the problems today are a lot of drivers get into the steel box with a seat belt ant think they are 100% safe 😢 I remember showing a photo of two totally wrecked cars after a head on to both my daughters just when they passed the driving test just to show them what can happen. I like to think it dome them both good 🙏
thank you, I agree, i think you did the right thing. we used to get shown such things by the traffic police when we were at school back in the day. certainly left an impression. all the best
As an advanced rider, what's your opinion of riding at night? Would you actively go for a ride at night? Or do you try to avoid riding at night? Would you rather ride in the rain during the day than ride at night? Thank-you for the informative videos 👍
@deanmsimpson hi thanks for your questions. I dont have to ride at night these days, but I used to. I quite enjoy it, but there are other things to consider. It also depends on what type of roads you ride on. I am planning to do a night video soon as it has been requested before. I can enjoy rain riding too, i find wet night riding to be the most challenging now, especially with the current situation with non legal and legal ultra bright headlamps. But the only thing I actively avoid is ice and snow roads. I used to do that too, but not any more! Glad you find the videos informative, all the best
@@MotorcyclePWR Thank-you for your reply. I perhaps should have made myself clearer. I meant for pleasure, as opposed to work or necessity. Thank-you again, and I'll look forward to your night riding video, and maybe you'll include wet night riding. Though how it will turn out recording it might be challenging regarding view, but I guess that's the point and how realistic it is for a motorcyclist at night, especially dark country roads. Thank-you 👍
hi Dean, no problem, I sort of thought you meant for pleasure, i think it remains the same really, yes sometimes i would for the fun of it, though the older I get the less its on the list of to do's! all the best
Haha Yes, the list of to-dos is for ever growing. Those more prevalent jumping to the top, shuffling back others to the bottom. Thank-you for your reply 👍
As a IAM National observers if feel the standard of driving is dropping. The lack of self control and wonting to speed is getting greater. I am on a drive in our group to get away from make progress and putting safety first again. We need to make people think more. It is NOT a god given right to drive it is a task that everyone must take seriously. Like the videos keep up the good work.
many thanks Stephen, I agree with you. Safety has to be everything. I always said that progress / higher speed is a by-product of getting everything else right. If youre just trying to go faster you re not doing it right! Glad you like the videos, all the best
Hi hope you’re well. I’ve just come back from the Dragon Rally in Wales and I was wondering if you had any tips on shoulder pain ?? I split the journey up in two on the way there and only had a small ache in one shoulder but on the way back I rode in one day with stops for food and fuel. But when I got home which took 6hours my shoulders especially my left side were hurting and lot. My bike is comfortable enough it’s a 09 FJR 1300. Can you help with any tips. ?? Cheers Ed.
Hi Ed, thanks for your message. Sounds like a good journey,,except for shoulder pain. I used to have an fjr, cracking bike but I personally couldn’t get completely comfortable on it. I think the bars were slightly too far or just wrong for me. However I know they fit many others perfectly. From experience any riding induced pain could be caused by such things as too tight clothing, draughts, infrequent riding. Often, tension or gripping too tight might cause issues. But sometimes I think it is just part of riding for a while in the same position as can happen driving a car. In which case regular breaks and a few gentle stretches may help. Sorry I can’t assist further, all the best
@@MotorcyclePWR hi. Thank you so much for getting back to me. I think what you said about infrequent riding might be a major factor as I only returned to riding in 2019 and hadn’t ridden since 2004 when I done my test. I’ll have to just keep at it and keep watching videos like yours to help. Ride safe and thank you. Ed
Unfortunately we live in an age where there are very few positive role models, most prominent people are seen to be in it for themselves and immune from consequences, and those of us who understand the need for and respect norms and rules are considered quaint at best or, worse, "sheep" or "boot lickers". There's very little fear of consequences until the most severe of consequence happens. This was well presented and explained, but I fear the audience is self selecting and it's unlikely the algorithm will show it to those who would most benefit from it. I don't mean to be negative and discouraging, in fact the opposite...
@@MotorcyclePWR absolutely. I'm not a policeman, can only take responsibility for my actions and my safety, and hopefully coach my IAM associates to stay safe also.
Im not one for George Orwell type systems but I really think that all vehicles should by law have cameras and some near misses should result in an instant ban because its getting out of hand. 😎👍
I agree with what you have put forwards. It appears to me that a 'safe' overtake is generally considered to be on that is successful ie. it comes about without a collision. It apparently matters not that some drivers or motorcyclists ended up swerving or taking other avoidance to avoid one. That's all that some drivers and riders want, get and accept. An only just made it by the skin of my teeth overtake. Unfortunately as you point out overtaking is the most dangerous of manoeuvres for both cars and motorcycles. Head on collision at a combined speed of 100 mph will make mincemeat of any body on a bike, Whilst a car can have safety features such as seat belts and collapsible areas that will absorb any massive impact a biker only has his clothing and his skin and bones to hold him together .
Personally I do blame the authorities, both governmental and training and that includes what we teach in so called Advanced riding. It needs a complete overhaul of teaching practises and procedures with regards to our safety and the safety of all other road users on overtakes.
That is not going to happen unless there is first a recognition and admission of a problem. That will never happen. Something that has been allowed to go wrong, very wrong and they have all buried their heads in the sand and allowed to happen without any previous intervention. So change is not going to happen as no one will admit to the making any mistakes and the carnage will remain on our roads.
Yes I agree with what you said , I don’t like the way manufacturers are producing these bikes with such big horse power, that’s only needed on the race track . I love my little 350 classic Enfield, it’s so nice to enjoy the country side and stop off at cafe and it will do the speed limit once I’ve run it in so you don’t need any more. 👍🏍️
Fully agree. I know that road very well. I wouldn't even attempt those overtakes on my bike let alone in a car. The problem is that these idiots often end up killing or seriously injuring someone else.
Good video.
Overakes in darkness can have make it much harder to guess the speed of oncoming vehicles.
Some roads have solid lines where overtakes could work fine. Others have inappropriate placing of broken &/or hazard lines.
Some lazy overtakes can arguably be as dangerous as higher speed ones.
I did not have any training in my DAS re overtaking. My instructor actually stated he did not train it within DAS !
Executing overtakes at or around speed limits can arguably increase risk...especially if the speed difference between vehicle being overtaken & overtaking vehicle is narrow.
On the bike I had brought some transferable skills but had to adapt same &/or teach myself bike specific overtaking skills.
Various things to consider when overtaking on a bike including, acceleration, considered use of stepping stones, (which can be an art in itself), grip, closing speeds, hard to see road defects, blindspots , considering lifesavers, stability, not being seen, camber etc...the list goes on.
I generally do not favour progressive group rides with unknown &/or untrusted participants.
Thanks 👍 🏍
Thanks for your comments AW8. You raise some very valid points and sadly overtaking doesn’t figure highly in das. It’s madness really. I still think there are a lot of changes needed. All the best
@@MotorcyclePWRAgree re DAS (& training fo other DVSA tests).
We have to be realistic... Overtaking at higher speeds is not a rariity.....
Many work it out for themselves &/or by copying biker mates -but sometimes with mixed results & consequences.
Thanks again 👋👍🏍
You are correct about solid white lines. Often when roads are repainted the broken lines are replaced with one continuous white line. So it was legal before to overtake but not now. I’m in Ireland.
They often don’t get much further I’ve quite often got to a round about and the crazy driver who flew past me dangerously ends up just in front at the island , it’s just not worth it .
Another useful video, as a new motorcycle rider ( but experienced car driver) i enjoy your content. As you say, its all down to patience.
All those clips could have been catastrophic collisions. People are nuts. Ride safe.
Thank you. all the best! 👍
“You are probably not as good as you think you are” 😀
Impatience, for sure,
Very good video. Unfortunately, the people who need to see this won't 😢 think some of the problems today are a lot of drivers get into the steel box with a seat belt ant think they are 100% safe 😢 I remember showing a photo of two totally wrecked cars after a head on to both my daughters just when they passed the driving test just to show them what can happen. I like to think it dome them both good 🙏
thank you, I agree, i think you did the right thing. we used to get shown such things by the traffic police when we were at school back in the day. certainly left an impression. all the best
As an advanced rider, what's your opinion of riding at night?
Would you actively go for a ride at night?
Or do you try to avoid riding at night?
Would you rather ride in the rain during the day than ride at night?
Thank-you for the informative videos 👍
@deanmsimpson hi thanks for your questions. I dont have to ride at night these days, but I used to. I quite enjoy it, but there are other things to consider. It also depends on what type of roads you ride on. I am planning to do a night video soon as it has been requested before. I can enjoy rain riding too, i find wet night riding to be the most challenging now, especially with the current situation with non legal and legal ultra bright headlamps.
But the only thing I actively avoid is ice and snow roads. I used to do that too, but not any more!
Glad you find the videos informative, all the best
@@MotorcyclePWR Thank-you for your reply. I perhaps should have made myself clearer. I meant for pleasure, as opposed to work or necessity.
Thank-you again, and I'll look forward to your night riding video, and maybe you'll include wet night riding. Though how it will turn out recording it might be challenging regarding view, but I guess that's the point and how realistic it is for a motorcyclist at night, especially dark country roads. Thank-you 👍
hi Dean, no problem, I sort of thought you meant for pleasure, i think it remains the same really, yes sometimes i would for the fun of it, though the older I get the less its on the list of to do's! all the best
Haha Yes, the list of to-dos is for ever growing. Those more prevalent jumping to the top, shuffling back others to the bottom. Thank-you for your reply 👍
As a IAM National observers if feel the standard of driving is dropping. The lack of self control and wonting to speed is getting greater. I am on a drive in our group to get away from make progress and putting safety first again. We need to make people think more.
It is NOT a god given right to drive it is a task that everyone must take seriously.
Like the videos keep up the good work.
many thanks Stephen, I agree with you. Safety has to be everything. I always said that progress / higher speed is a by-product of getting everything else right. If youre just trying to go faster you re not doing it right!
Glad you like the videos, all the best
Impatience and lack of discipline.
Sadly evermore common.
absolutely so
Hi hope you’re well.
I’ve just come back from the Dragon Rally in Wales and I was wondering if you had any tips on shoulder pain ?? I split the journey up in two on the way there and only had a small ache in one shoulder but on the way back I rode in one day with stops for food and fuel. But when I got home which took 6hours my shoulders especially my left side were hurting and lot. My bike is comfortable enough it’s a 09 FJR 1300. Can you help with any tips. ?? Cheers Ed.
Hi Ed, thanks for your message. Sounds like a good journey,,except for shoulder pain.
I used to have an fjr, cracking bike but I personally couldn’t get completely comfortable on it. I think the bars were slightly too far or just wrong for me. However I know they fit many others perfectly.
From experience any riding induced pain could be caused by such things as too tight clothing, draughts, infrequent riding. Often, tension or gripping too tight might cause issues. But sometimes I think it is just part of riding for a while in the same position as can happen driving a car. In which case regular breaks and a few gentle stretches may help. Sorry I can’t assist further, all the best
@@MotorcyclePWR hi. Thank you so much for getting back to me. I think what you said about infrequent riding might be a major factor as I only returned to riding in 2019 and hadn’t ridden since 2004 when I done my test. I’ll have to just keep at it and keep watching videos like yours to help. Ride safe and thank you. Ed
Unfortunately we live in an age where there are very few positive role models, most prominent people are seen to be in it for themselves and immune from consequences, and those of us who understand the need for and respect norms and rules are considered quaint at best or, worse, "sheep" or "boot lickers". There's very little fear of consequences until the most severe of consequence happens.
This was well presented and explained, but I fear the audience is self selecting and it's unlikely the algorithm will show it to those who would most benefit from it.
I don't mean to be negative and discouraging, in fact the opposite...
Thank you for your comments. I’m in agreement with you, it’s the way of the modern world it seems. We can but try. All the best
@@MotorcyclePWR absolutely. I'm not a policeman, can only take responsibility for my actions and my safety, and hopefully coach my IAM associates to stay safe also.
Im not one for George Orwell type systems but I really think that all vehicles should by law have cameras and some near misses should result in an instant ban because its getting out of hand. 😎👍
anyone who overtakes on a bend should have their license suspended without question
Sadly I'd like to think that you are preaching to the converted here. Unfortunately the people that do these silly things don't watch videos like this
Hi Chris, yes I’m in agreement with you. Still, if it makes a change in one person it’s better than nothing! All the best
@@MotorcyclePWR I quite agree. It's just a shame that we can't get such an important message to the people who really need it.