Simon &Carla enjoy you time there see if the A Kraken Sailboat there you will see awesome three Times. Sorry to sad you Two would look super awesome in a Hallberg Rassy or a Kraken sailboat. Yes I know you two want a Cat. I know it sounds weird but take a Look at the Home build.
@@SailingOceanFox that is ok the Kraken is one Awesome made Sailboat you will ever See. Maybe in your Free time look on TH-cam. Did you find the Homemade Cat Yet. Maybe not because I bet there is tons of Boat Marinas in Greece. Hope you fine your Cat some Day. I still think you need to come to America. Peace be With You Two and happy Holidays. Greg of Minks city lol.
Full marks for the straight stem. Waterline length is everything. Minus several million points for the enormous rear end and the inevitable companion twin rudders. As these boats heel they go nose down and get cranky to steer. More moderate balanced hull lines are so much more sea kindly and seaworthy, which I would have thought important for a blue water boat. They are too heavy, which increases fuel consumption, rig and steering loads, crew load and makes them more difficult to dock.
I think this is a trend running through many nonohull design teams at the present time. In ten years, we may be looking at something quite different. We all want space inside, on deck for crew and storage. I loved the boat and think Hallberg Rasey's design team have made a great job of modernising the brand and trying to keep some traditional features.
@@simonfowler8876 The space inside comes at a massive cost. While they work just fine in flat water, they become unruly in waves. And they don't like heeling, even to moderate angles. While gaining stability from COB movement when inclining, the underwater shape of the boat becomes very assymetric, both laterally and longitudinally. This means the centre of buoyancy moves aft and outboard as the boat heels, resulting in a nose down attitude - hardly ideal - and a large steering moment with increased drag. In fact the drag increases at about the same rate as the stability for no net gain until about 15⁰ of heel where the drag increases more quickly. The other side effect is that waves really knock the stern around increasing the steering loads even more. Oh joy. In addition docking a boat with much less prop wash because the rudders are located far from the propeller is more difficult. There are no hydrodynamic reasons to do this. If you want more room...get a longer boat.
@@SailingOceanFox I have delivered more than a few HR's, including a transatlantic, though not for some time. They have always had good build quality, a little resin issues notwithstanding. But they have always been heavy for length. They did always feature a moderate hull form until recently. I hate the new hull shapes passionately. I have spent countless days and tens of thousands of miles cursing fat arses and the triumph of marketing over common sense. F**K Halberg Rassy.
600 grand..... Not sure I'd want to be flying around the Atlantic in that You'd definitely make the better salesman. I always listen to someone flogging something with my eyes closed. You'd be surprised how much waffle you here.. 😂
The Rassy is totaly awesome inside probly the best, but I can't put faith in spade rudders bolt on keels & unprotected props. People have and paid with their lives. Its Kracken 50 or island packet for me. Safest cruising boats there is.
Simon &Carla enjoy you time there see if the A Kraken Sailboat there you will see awesome three Times. Sorry to sad you Two would look super awesome in a Hallberg Rassy or a Kraken sailboat. Yes I know you two want a Cat. I know it sounds weird but take a Look at the Home build.
Never heard of the Kraken, I don’t think is one here. Thank you Greg
@@SailingOceanFox that is ok the Kraken is one Awesome made Sailboat you will ever See. Maybe in your Free time look on TH-cam. Did you find the Homemade Cat Yet. Maybe not because I bet there is tons of Boat Marinas in Greece. Hope you fine your Cat some Day. I still think you need to come to America. Peace be With You Two and happy Holidays. Greg of Minks city lol.
Full marks for the straight stem. Waterline length is everything. Minus several million points for the enormous rear end and the inevitable companion twin rudders. As these boats heel they go nose down and get cranky to steer. More moderate balanced hull lines are so much more sea kindly and seaworthy, which I would have thought important for a blue water boat. They are too heavy, which increases fuel consumption, rig and steering loads, crew load and makes them more difficult to dock.
I think this is a trend running through many nonohull design teams at the present time. In ten years, we may be looking at something quite different.
We all want space inside, on deck for crew and storage.
I loved the boat and think Hallberg Rasey's design team have made a great job of modernising the brand and trying to keep some traditional features.
@@simonfowler8876 The space inside comes at a massive cost. While they work just fine in flat water, they become unruly in waves. And they don't like heeling, even to moderate angles. While gaining stability from COB movement when inclining, the underwater shape of the boat becomes very assymetric, both laterally and longitudinally. This means the centre of buoyancy moves aft and outboard as the boat heels, resulting in a nose down attitude - hardly ideal - and a large steering moment with increased drag. In fact the drag increases at about the same rate as the stability for no net gain until about 15⁰ of heel where the drag increases more quickly. The other side effect is that waves really knock the stern around increasing the steering loads even more. Oh joy. In addition docking a boat with much less prop wash because the rudders are located far from the propeller is more difficult. There are no hydrodynamic reasons to do this. If you want more room...get a longer boat.
I will pass your comments back to Hallberg Rassy
@@SailingOceanFox I have delivered more than a few HR's, including a transatlantic, though not for some time. They have always had good build quality, a little resin issues notwithstanding. But they have always been heavy for length. They did always feature a moderate hull form until recently. I hate the new hull shapes passionately. I have spent countless days and tens of thousands of miles cursing fat arses and the triumph of marketing over common sense. F**K Halberg Rassy.
600 grand..... Not sure I'd want to be flying around the Atlantic in that
You'd definitely make the better salesman.
I always listen to someone flogging something with my eyes closed. You'd be surprised how much waffle you here.. 😂
They are great boats but not for us🤷♀️
The Rassy is totaly awesome inside probly the best, but I can't put faith in spade rudders bolt on keels & unprotected props. People have and paid with their lives. Its Kracken 50 or island packet for me. Safest cruising boats there is.