Man if I were the girl on the other end I would feel so horrible. Not only must she be battling with trauma but the fact that the courtroom is trying to draw a causation between rejecting him and a massacre is incredibly overbearing.
@@EddieMachetti Unfortunately there are a number of people who do believe she should've just said yes, and point to this as blame. It's mainly just incels though.
Getting rejected by someone is a normal part of life, reacting the way he did is absolutely unthinkable. She did nothing wrong, must be hard for her to go through all of this though. I couldn't imagine.
imagine you’re literally on trial to decide whether you live or die and they whip out ur incel text messages of you getting rejected, life’s so easy when you’re not evil
Unfortunately, he probably won't see the inside of a death chamber, but he will be in the nicer death row wing where he doesn't have to bunk up with anyone. Give him life and throw him in gen pop.
He is beyond immature. The entire trial has just been a thorough display of this demented kids life and it paints a picture of an extraordinarily demented and immature individual. The cringe factor is indescribable.
I’m glad they read these out loud. He clearly doesn’t care about what he did so at least these messages being read out loud brings him some shame or embarrassment.
He seems to show no emotion since day 1. But you know what would really hurt him? If Angie came to court and tells him how gross she thinks he is and how she's disappointed and would never in a million years even give him a chance. And watch him break down.
@@Chendoart Maybe!! But also think his defence will present that there were many warning signs that professionals knew about without doing anything about them. I read few things on wikipedia, but I am not sure what they show here.
@@apostleswarning8575 Right. In his mind he wants to be seen as a horrific mass shooter. But the text messages show him to be something he doesn't want to be: A loser.
I hope the girl is able to get therapy and can live a relatively happy life. This isn’t her fault, there was no correlation between her rejecting and the massacre. rejection is a normal thing everyone deals with. I feel so bad for her, this sounds like he was harassing her, this is so disturbing to hear… this is traumatic.
Its not her fault But you cant say her rejection didnt cause part of this. But even if he did have a girlfriend at some point in his life. He would have shot her the second they broke up anyway
Wow you know what’s even more sickening?? The fact that I think this is the first time this monster has been engaged and actually showed that he cared. It’s not when he had to hear about his wreckage or the damage he caused. It’s when he is hearing the texts between him and the girl he was stalking. Everyone at some point in their life gets rejected. At some point we all go thru a traumatic event. That doesn’t give a person the right to pretend to be God and go on a murdering spree. With the nature of this horrendous crime if he does get the death penalty I think it should be by firing squad.
"The fact that I think this is the first time this monster has been engaged and actually showed that he cared" - - let's see, on their first date if she dared to disagree with him we'll know what likely will happen, right? There's probably only one outcome. So don't be fooled.
when i was in 6th grade i befriended a boy who was really short and nerdy in my science class. i did not know that would result in him having photo albums of me, making a steam account in my name, creating 100s of twitters to tweet me, and following me around. I was in 8th grade when I found out. It had been going on for 3 years and i never knew my safety was at risk until then. after i found out i tried to file a restraining order, but so much happened in a short time: my dad passing away threw it all out the window; i didn’t care anymore. fast forward to highschool and he was a self proclaimed “incel” who was in a multitude of my classes. The school knew he threatened violence toward me many times, and did nothing about it. Im thankful nothing came of this, but i was genuinely concerned for the same outcome. i know how she must feel, may she heal knowing that this monster will rot forever. PROTECT YOUNG GIRLS!!!!
@@CopeandSeethe325 The only half we need to hear. You're tying to say she led him on? She caused him to be a psycho who hyperfocused on her? He could have easily just STOPPED and watched TV or gone outside. He had a choice in his actions. It doesn't matter what she did. This guy clearly stalked her and I wouldn't care if she was horrible to him it doesn't mean a thing. You're a loser and I hope you figure your head out. Why are young men turning into little victims when the girl they like rejects them? Rejection is part of life. You can't force people to accept you and date you. Even if someone likes you and dates you then decides they don't it doesn't change the situation. You don't get to act like they tricked you or hurt you. YOU are hurting yourself when you act like an incel. Get a life. If you had one you wouldn't have time to do what this kid did to this girl stalking her. You should have a job and bills to pay. If you have time to act like an incel then you should be helping people and making the world a better place instead of whining about how you can't get a date. You would not want to be with someone who acted like a big crybaby about everything so why do you expect other people to put up with your crybaby nonsense?
@@tylermallory2504 when a woman is clearly stating that she has a bf and multiple of her friends have also told you that… it’s pretty obvious she doesn’t want you
Well it's not like his going back into class for like the rest of his life, he doesn't even have much if any contact with other prisoners, guards aren't going to speak to him etc
@@tarnishedone1259 yea the dude cant even seem to take audio or testemonies so im sure this was knawing at him, He just got flamed in front of the world and now it know just how much of loser punk he was . he deserrved this,
Also this is to show the jury that he was well aware of his thoughts and what he was doing…unlike when the police arrested him and he tried to act crazy.
She literally told him she had a boyfriend and that she didn't want anything to do with him. I hope nobody blames her, and she doesn't blame herself. Poor girl. I know from experience that it's horrific to be so obsessed over and harassed.
He is soo embarrassed when those messages are read out loud with the love of his life. You can see it in his eyes when he has his hand on his forehead. He is staring straight ahead and his eyes are huge! He is literally thinking just kill me now please!!!
@@bro0406 I agree. I think he became a hateful person and this is the outcome of a child who grew up with no love and only a feeling of abandonment. Mental health needs to become a priority. This kid may have been able to be helped back when he was hurting animals.
Text stalking? Block and delete easy enough. This guy just doesnt understand social interactions or has blocked them out. But it aint stalking if she never blocked him and he didnt have to change numbers
@@neurodivergentpixi6736 we use WhatsApp where i live and that is not possible so get another app where that is not able. Did the guy get arrested? Because usually they wont stop
If a man can’t take rejection and keep it moving and not even think about that person anymore then chances are they’re evil creeps like him. Whenever you “date” you’ll go in multiple dates probably with multiple people, some won’t want to go out again or won’t reply or maybe you don’t like that person and there’s not enough time for messing around so you just let them know or move on, no big deal it’s life.
Wow I am so grateful that we are able to see all of these details that may seem insignificant but are proving to give such an insight into what was going on in his head. I know that there’s been people that just feel sorry for him due to a belief that he had no one that loved or cared about him or that he didn’t have friends or girlfriends etc and clearly that is not true. I am wondering if he had any real intention of meeting up with his friend and Caroline or if he was just making it look that way so he could pretend that he didn’t have control of his actions and that the shooting wasn’t planned ahead of time. But all he’s accomplished is making it very clear that he was more than capable of making decisions for himself and wasn’t hearing any demonic voices telling him to kill people. And even though he was socially stunted he had friends girls that were possibly interested in him. He is selfish and creepy and demanding but completely sane and knows exactly what he is doing
He had girlfriends but they left him cuz he had issues & the guy texting him was messing with him & the reason I chose not to go is cuz he realized that the guy was messing with him and teasing him it's amazing how people misinterpret something simple to understand they should have got him help instead of teasing him when he was acting unusually demanding or told adult that he's acting unusual and needs help obviously going through a mental health crisis I need antibody class of the teach people how to do this
I don't really back up the death penalty except in some definitely guilty and extreme cases like this. They need a new law to make these people have second thought. Like 30 days in jail and then on to death
America is the only Western country in the world where still DP is a punishment, how middle-agey is that!?Btw, and yet the criminal statistics show it doesn't work, tho. To punish pple with the same act they did to others , just in another way , isn't the solution, ...and executing minors? Wow, how tough ... . So the prosecution wants the deat of a back then Minor who killed minors🙃🤨🤔 de
The verbal "play by plays" is incredible. I kind of like it better than video examples. The way they talk, it's like meditating. Everything is explained.
It’s terrifying and almost unreal about those timestamps towards the end. (i.e. February 14, 2018, 2:11pm) The shooting unfolded at around 2:19pm, which means these final messages were *minutes* before he would do the unthinkable.
Wow, that is really chilling... for him to send such loving messages (granted unwanted messages) to someone right before he killed and injured so many people. It's crazy.
Good job law and crime network as well as the courtroom for actually letting the phone numbers be said and seen so everyone on the internet can spam them
Hopefully they realise his issues are his issues, they couldn't have known what he would do or stop him if they did, probably because from what can be gathered from the text message exchange they didn't know him well enough
Those innocents & families have my sympathies and condolences. A truly heartbreaking case and they have to relive the trauma all over again. God bless them all xxxx. May the correct decision be made.
I don't know who that 1 dad can sit there!!! He has the " if looks could kill!!! You would be dead"!!! I hope he can find some little piece of calm at some point. I cry for him and all the families!
He pleaded guilty. Everyone know he guilty. Yall wasting time, money, and resources and giving a dude attention. Just give him the penalty already and quit the bs
Exactly. But this trial probably helps empower & heal the families of the victims, to get their justice. Who knows. Im glad Nik has enough respect to admit to his guilt.
That's not how the system works, everyone gets their day in court regardless of how horrific the crime. It's called due process and it happens for a reason. Without a trial one could claim they admitted guilt under duress, that would embolden prosecutors to force plea bargains simply to pad their stats, after all thats how prosecutors are judged. Most wanna move up or into a private practice, many innocents could end up in jail for things they didnt do. It would embolden police to interrogate people as they please for the same exact reason. If the defense attorney doesn't do their job then he could appeal the decision saying he didn't have fair representation. The whole trial would have to happen again, he could even change his plea at that point just to drag the whole thing out. How do you think the victims families would feel? Or those who survived his attack? You can't let emotions circumvent logical thinking. If everyone did that our country would be pure chaos. Yall should educate yourself on how our judicial system works
@@SlimTheGoat Thank God another someone else has the understanding that it's vital to ensure a thorough due process with adequate representation. It's alarming how many people would allow emotions to eliminate our constitutional rights. People also don't understand the importance of the sentencing phase which is what we've been watching. The jury will be deliberating on life without the possibility of parole or the death sentence in doing so the state has the burden of proving he isn't mentally incapacitated in any way because if the defense can prove he's incapacitated mentally in any way it's unconstitutional to sentence him to death. The state is doing amazing in showing that he knew exactly what he was doing and he attempted to manipulate more serious mental health problems knowing he was planning this act of evil.
@@megannoe2057 it's alarming how ignorant some folks can be. I saw so many people asking why the text messages were being read aloud and some people truly thought it was to embarrass him. One person answered "its to provoke him into an outburst to prove he's crazy" It's actually pretty scary when you think about it
@@smtandearthboundsuck8400 you clearly have little understanding of the legal system. It can take years to make sure all pertinent evidence is viewed and understood. Everything is important in order to prolong his sentencing as much as possible. To prove this was premeditated and he isn’t insane. He’s not just freely walking around during this, he is being held as he is a danger to himself and others.
@@hi-il7ug i think that's why he didn't go after Angie. He was truly obsessed with her. He even mentions in one of the videos that he'll see her in the afterlife. It's still cringe.
This gives me so much anxiety. The way he persists and act all obsessed over this girl. There's so many guys who act like this with girls, it happened to me twice already. Its horrible. If a girl doesnt want to talk to you, just leave her tf alone, dont act like she owns you something, like she HAS to talk with you.
@@TheRealPoPorter I don't think we should judge people for being different or "weird". We now know he's a mass shooter, but there are probably many people that fits your description of being weird, but almost all of them are good people.
@@christopher399 have you been keeping up with the details of this case??? Even before the shooting his behavior was weird. Making threats on TH-cam and so on………just a disturbed young man
The only time I’ve seen him engaged in court. I’m not the bigger person and it gives me some pleasure to see him go through this, given he was seemingly obsessed with this girl/probably in a deluded way thinks he is the victim because he was rejected
I've literally had a guy send me messages like that. I had to cut all contact and block him and it hurt my career because people would still hire him and I couldn't be on the same set. They didn't think it was a problem.
Just because someone doesn't know how to handle rejections does not mean that women are all of a sudden obligated to date men they don't like to prevent crime. LOL men need to grow up, this is not her fault.
@@megsgriffin Well, they are very lucky there. Here in Ohio and some other states, you get what you are given. Every state is different. It is what it is.
It shows there was some hesitation. He might not have went through with it and attended the fire had he known earlier but his actions stem from rejection. Once he got the Uber, he felt like he couldn’t go back. His decision making seems pretty clear and not impaired by anything at the time. Certainly not by any demons.
He had already posted a number of videos before this date declaring his intent to commit a mass murder at the school. It had nothing to do with this girl.
Going back from willing to kill a bunch of people? No, this guy was made to do this. Some people are just bad, a bomb waiting to blow. If it wasn't the 17 people at that school, It would have been later on down the road. This wasnt just a bad day, and feeling rejected... It takes a stone cold psycopath to follow through with what he did.
It's great to see him actually be hurt by seeing these messages...I think Angie should get on stage and break his heart. That would be EPIC and well deserved!!!
i think he didnt deserve to be rejected and so lonely it seems her bf was txting him that she was "coming" as in they were having s** right until the shooting. thats not right of them
@@gdust6579 Uh, what? What do you mean "deserve" to be rejected? Rejection is not about the person being rejected, but the person who is rejecting. Angie has the right to reject anyone she wants. Dating someone just because you feel sorry for them is worse than rejecting them. If you don't like someone, you reject them, that's part of life. If Cruz couldn't deal with that, that's his fault, not hers.
@@gdust6579 Ah yes the classic victim blaming. She had every right to reject him. Rejection is something everyone goes through and have to deal with. And unless you have the emotional capacity of a three year old that’ll be something you don’t understand. Dating someone out of pity or obsession is not love. Far from it. I’ve seen you on multiple comment sections trying to justify Cruz’s actions just because you relate to him or whatnot. Which is pointless because you seem to have the same attributes as him. Which is quite fitting since you think trying to buy some guys love for three months is equal to love in the first place.
@Jimmy It doesn’t matter if your a “tall chad” or the complete opposite of that. Everyone gets rejected no matter how attractive they are on a scale. Your comments are absolutely abhorrent on how you speak on the victims. Or your just some troll looking for attention. No one deserves death. Not even bullies. Your just as immature as gdust. Find something better to do bud.
@@gdust6579 I see you all in these comments defending him like he’s the victim. It doesn’t matter what happens to you, killing people is never the answer. Especially over rejection.
He dosn't display much emotion on his face there either...some people just arn't expressive with their face...the only time I saw of him showing alot of emotion is him with his brother.
I can’t believe they told the phone number he called. That person will hear a lot of garbage. Can’t blame her, she could tell there is something wrong with him. She wanted him to leave her alone. Poor Angie!
In my mind I was thinking that he called it the “movies” as a reference to the “The Dark Knight Rises” shooting from 2012. Could be totally off-base but that’s the connection I made.
One of the traits of a person with a sociopathic, or psychopathic personality disorder is that they continually violate the rights of others, Nikolas is like one of those rejected ex-husbands who end up stalking their ex-wives, their whole rationale is "If I can't have you, no one else will".
I think you're right. I believe that if he hadn't done what he did, eventually he would've gone after Angie. And I don't want to think about what would've happened to her.
I don’t feel these messages were what prompted Cruz to commit the violent act he did. I feel when he began watching previous school shootings and all the other things he watched over and over again he was already committed to going down the path that led him to commit this horrific crime. 🥺😢 The everlasting repercussions to the families, the survivors, and the communities . 🙏🏼✨🙏🏼✨🙏🏼
He has delusions of grandeur. I like how those messages make him feel small. Someone else said that the girl he had a crush on should show up in court and tell him to his face what a pathetic loser he is. Wouldn't be nearly the mental suffering he deserved, but it would be a start. Seriously, all the victim impact statements mean nothing. This pos doesn't give a crap about that. They should instead do something as I suggested to really humiliate him.
You are scaring me and I want you to leave me alone ----- 💔 I pray this girl never feels one ounce of guilt. Or his friend J T... He was planning this evil rampage regardless... RIP to all the victims. My prayers go out to the victims, survivors and their loved ones...🕊🥀
Also he has participated in incel ideologies, (specifically by repeatedly praising mass shooter Elliot Rodger) and more often than not, people who associate with incel ideologies are shamelessly pedophilic/predatory.
Oh this just shattered his incel heart. All of the videos and pics and gruesome talk of the babies he killed, and this was what got him. If Angie had come to speak and contest to how creepy he is he probably would have cried for the first time. So gross. Get over yourself. Everyone gets rejected.
I know this is a serious trial and obviously extremely sad, but I can’t help but laugh at these adults slowly reading cringey texts, and then stating when they are from “Warning Love Of Your Life”. Like they just say it so flat and exact 😂😂
@Trumptards OD on Copium I’m not 30, I’m 26. Lol I didn’t say I was a kid, and they were adults; I was just pointing out the fact that a much older generation is reading these texts in a cringey way-kind of how you would expect boomer parents to be slowly reading something on a phone or other electronic device. I should have said boomers, but they could be Gen X for all I know. I was just trying to make the distinction that they weren’t as young as millennials, and so they were reading it funny and slow.
The first message could’ve taken a few seconds longer to receive after she hit send, or she could’ve typed them and sent but needed better service before they all sent. NC could’ve also had some cell reception issues receiving delays.
15:55 when he whispered to the woman beside him she blew him off. He looked back at her hoping for some reaction or communication. He thinks wants to help him. Absolutely nobody is there for his support.
Uh... no. They are his counsel. How else should they react? Professionals don't have time to relay body language that you seem to know how to read. There's no room for disdain and bias in the courtroom when it comes to being his legal team, wether he killed 100 more people or he cured cancer
@@honeybawnches2016 I know in some countries they still have home ec, but at my school I don't ever remember it being offered other than a cooking class for an elective. And that class wasn't exactly properly advertised to students.
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He's the kind of guy you take pity on for having no friends, then start to regret doing so, almost immediately when you realise why he has no friends.
I don't take pity on losers for being the freaks that they are. I laugh at them
sometimes the cover represents the book just fine
Wimps are the worst, they take their anger of being disappointment in life often onto innocent victims either like this or then being like Dr. Fausti
@MLAustin5 don’t hang out with losers and freaks. I made that decision early.
Omfg yup
Man if I were the girl on the other end I would feel so horrible. Not only must she be battling with trauma but the fact that the courtroom is trying to draw a causation between rejecting him and a massacre is incredibly overbearing.
I know. In all seriousness, I do feel sorry for the girl. She must in no way feel that this horrible massacre was in any way her fault.
I hope no one blames this poor girl. No one thinks “oh I better date this weirdo so he doesn’t shoot up a school”
@@EddieMachetti Unfortunately there are a number of people who do believe she should've just said yes, and point to this as blame. It's mainly just incels though.
Getting rejected by someone is a normal part of life, reacting the way he did is absolutely unthinkable. She did nothing wrong, must be hard for her to go through all of this though. I couldn't imagine.
@@jordanmuller2536 I agree. Peace.
I really hope people don’t blame the girl, and I really hope the girl does not blame herself, for this guy’s wrongdoings.
No girl or woman is EVER responsible for ANY actions by a fragile male ego, just because she says NO.
@@karadiberlino this day in age the first 7 words of your comment seem to be more true.
@@Jesus_Christ_is_Lord_ you sound like an incel bro grow up
@@Jesus_Christ_is_Lord_ lol
@@Jesus_Christ_is_Lord_ :|
imagine you’re literally on trial to decide whether you live or die and they whip out ur incel text messages of you getting rejected, life’s so easy when you’re not evil
It’s so satisfying knowing just how much of a pathetic coward he really is before he meets the electric chair
Unfortunately, he probably won't see the inside of a death chamber, but he will be in the nicer death row wing where he doesn't have to bunk up with anyone. Give him life and throw him in gen pop.
@@pmattoon bro yes, I don’t get why they don’t just throw guys like this in with everyone else
lmaoo
@@thomasstacker764 bro he’s still a human. Leave him alone
Side note: I love hearing adults in serious stuff like a court case and then having to explain emoticons and text slang when reading out text messages
Lmao yh
@@mchanel. never seen that one before lmao
Why don’t you do better and help out
^_^ - this guy reasearched the emoji as if it's meaning is not clear just from seeing it
Language must be specific & unambiguous in court but yes it’s ironic
Pretty crazy that the only discomfort this kid has felt is by the embarrassment of his texts.
He didnt act like this when the victim statments were being read
@@pourPOURpour He hung his head, no? Act like what exactly?
Which only proves he’s should be put down…evil kid
He is beyond immature. The entire trial has just been a thorough display of this demented kids life and it paints a picture of an extraordinarily demented and immature individual. The cringe factor is indescribable.
@@DrivenA111 he meant there was no embarrassment or remorse when the victim parents were reading their testimonies
I’m glad they read these out loud. He clearly doesn’t care about what he did so at least these messages being read out loud brings him some shame or embarrassment.
I don’t think it will bring him shame he is carless
@@kms199x2 hey man we all start somewhere. Spongebob also has a bike or i mean unicycle
This is very comical but let’s be serious here guys. He was trying to say careless
@@stewartwatson7136 ok slave to all things not safe zone friendly 24/7
He's psychotic. Someone like him has no shame because shame requires empathy
He seems to show no emotion since day 1. But you know what would really hurt him? If Angie came to court and tells him how gross she thinks he is and how she's disappointed and would never in a million years even give him a chance. And watch him break down.
Because he is a narcissist
Yesssssss. Yes yes yes.
this is what should have happened! is it too late to get Angie in that court room
Please Angie!!!
The question is why Angie didn't come to court ?
The irony of him telling her to “behave well” before he goes and murders a bunch of people. Should have taken your own advice buddy.
He did it for her ..
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The narcissistic arrogance
I noticed that he is actually paying attention compared to all the evidence presented before. This must be triggering.
he probably thinks that's his biggest defense, he's probably thinking "they'll see now my suffering and let me go"
@@Chendoart Maybe!! But also think his defence will present that there were many warning signs that professionals knew about without doing anything about them. I read few things on wikipedia, but I am not sure what they show here.
Hes embarrassed his text messages are being read out loud
@@apostleswarning8575 Right. In his mind he wants to be seen as a horrific mass shooter. But the text messages show him to be something he doesn't want to be: A loser.
He is livid having this out in public
He is more embarrassed about the text messages being read out rather than being guilty of murdering all those people.
I hope the girl is able to get therapy and can live a relatively happy life. This isn’t her fault, there was no correlation between her rejecting and the massacre. rejection is a normal thing everyone deals with. I feel so bad for her, this sounds like he was harassing her, this is so disturbing to hear… this is traumatic.
She probably doesn’t even think about him anymore, it’s been 4 years. She has probably moved on like the majority
@@norskii4893 “Probably”? Perhaps. Like “The majority”? She’s not guilty…however, the majority didn’t reject him.
He sounds like a stalker, she made it clear she didn't want to hear from him
BOOO HOO FEMINIST!
Its not her fault
But you cant say her rejection didnt cause part of this.
But even if he did have a girlfriend at some point in his life. He would have shot her the second they broke up anyway
Wow you know what’s even more sickening?? The fact that I think this is the first time this monster has been engaged and actually showed that he cared. It’s not when he had to hear about his wreckage or the damage he caused. It’s when he is hearing the texts between him and the girl he was stalking. Everyone at some point in their life gets rejected. At some point we all go thru a traumatic event. That doesn’t give a person the right to pretend to be God and go on a murdering spree. With the nature of this horrendous crime if he does get the death penalty I think it should be by firing squad.
It’ll be electric chair
Yup you I nymph
"The fact that I think this is the first time this monster has been engaged and actually showed that he cared" - - let's see, on their first date if she dared to disagree with him we'll know what likely will happen, right? There's probably only one outcome. So don't be fooled.
@@newhorizon4066 actually we don't.
It should be the electric chair
I hope that the Angie girl is okay. I know I wouldn't be ok with this exchange and what happened less than 3 hours later. I really hope she is okay.
Not even 3 hours more like a few minutes later. The poor girl must be horrified.
She probably should have told an adult about it.
@@missleader5262 it's easy to say that in hindsight but from the texts themselves I'm sure an adult would have just overlooked it as a childish crush.
@@missleader5262 nah no meaningful action could be taken based on this
@@Nipptwistyy you're right...just so upsetting.
when i was in 6th grade i befriended a boy who was really short and nerdy in my science class. i did not know that would result in him having photo albums of me, making a steam account in my name, creating 100s of twitters to tweet me, and following me around. I was in 8th grade when I found out. It had been going on for 3 years and i never knew my safety was at risk until then. after i found out i tried to file a restraining order, but so much happened in a short time: my dad passing away threw it all out the window; i didn’t care anymore. fast forward to highschool and he was a self proclaimed “incel” who was in a multitude of my classes. The school knew he threatened violence toward me many times, and did nothing about it. Im thankful nothing came of this, but i was genuinely concerned for the same outcome. i know how she must feel, may she heal knowing that this monster will rot forever. PROTECT YOUNG GIRLS!!!!
I’m glad you’re okay
That's so scary, it's crazy how insanely hormonal guys get when they get whiff that you think you like them !!
@@CopeandSeethe325 The only half we need to hear. You're tying to say she led him on? She caused him to be a psycho who hyperfocused on her? He could have easily just STOPPED and watched TV or gone outside. He had a choice in his actions. It doesn't matter what she did. This guy clearly stalked her and I wouldn't care if she was horrible to him it doesn't mean a thing.
You're a loser and I hope you figure your head out.
Why are young men turning into little victims when the girl they like rejects them? Rejection is part of life. You can't force people to accept you and date you.
Even if someone likes you and dates you then decides they don't it doesn't change the situation. You don't get to act like they tricked you or hurt you.
YOU are hurting yourself when you act like an incel.
Get a life. If you had one you wouldn't have time to do what this kid did to this girl stalking her. You should have a job and bills to pay. If you have time to act like an incel then you should be helping people and making the world a better place instead of whining about how you can't get a date.
You would not want to be with someone who acted like a big crybaby about everything so why do you expect other people to put up with your crybaby nonsense?
@@CopeandSeethe325 she befriended him and he turned out to be a wierdo, some people just obsess over somone for no reason.
BOO HOO FEMINIST! BOYS SHOULD BE PROTECTED FROM FEMALE PRDTRS! NOT GIRLS!
I'm getting second hand embarrassment watching this
Same
I believe it’s called cringe
It's also the most emotion that Cruz has shown.
@@theDiReW0lf6:03 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
She could tell he was a weirdo by his texts. It’s hard being a woman because there’s a ton of these creeps who will not take the hint and back off
Well use your words like an adult and stop playing the "hint" game... SMH
Yeah maybe these creeps need to work on there self esteem and self worth and avoid thots like you Aria lol lol
@@tylermallory2504 when a woman is clearly stating that she has a bf and multiple of her friends have also told you that… it’s pretty obvious she doesn’t want you
@@tylermallory2504 what hint she said she has a boyfriend multiple times, and gave him boundaries to stop over texting
@@FriedPeaches- yeah but then she says let her text him when she can. And why does she keep responding . Both which show she’s interested in him.
Being rejected gives no one a right to murder.
Sadly, in the minds of many U.S. males, it does.
Agreed. Or, being rejected after attempted violence…..to start wars with groups of people against those who never liked violence against women.
@@pkp6791 "Many US males" 😂 Hilarious, tell another one!
@@UnprofessionalProfessor The increasing murder rates of women at the hands of disgruntled males tell the tale.
@@raikiriramen6257 how about rejecting them then shooting them, to stay safe? That makes about as much sense as your statement.
When the teacher reads your note out loud to the class.😂
Lmaooo ! Rs embarrassing🤣
@@tarnishedone1259 Humor is a way for people to cope with something extremely tragic, I'm sure the victims would want this monster to be embarrassed.
Well it's not like his going back into class for like the rest of his life, he doesn't even have much if any contact with other prisoners, guards aren't going to speak to him etc
@@tarnishedone1259 yea the dude cant even seem to take audio or testemonies so im sure this was knawing at him, He just got flamed in front of the world and now it know just how much of loser punk he was . he deserrved this,
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Also this is to show the jury that he was well aware of his thoughts and what he was doing…unlike when the police arrested him and he tried to act crazy.
I loved everytime he cleared up what wtf stands for 🤣
Haha
He has to for the court record.
Which means What the FUUUUUU
@NR why do you assume I don't understand this, based on the fact that I wrote what I did?
She literally told him she had a boyfriend and that she didn't want anything to do with him. I hope nobody blames her, and she doesn't blame herself. Poor girl. I know from experience that it's horrific to be so obsessed over and harassed.
I blame her for the whole mess
Never trust a female.
@@boltzmannbrain6607she had no obligation n she had a bf, plus he was mentally ill
@@M1st13x she caused this
@@boltzmannbrain6607 Don't be a loser troll
He is soo embarrassed when those messages are read out loud with the love of his life. You can see it in his eyes when he has his hand on his forehead. He is staring straight ahead and his eyes are huge! He is literally thinking just kill me now please!!!
He should be the creepy fuq.
I’d say go head with a death penalty lol loser deserves to feel embarrassed
awwh to bad
come on weve all had some weird teenage angst period
@@Acolis idk I've never sent messages like that to girls with boyfriends. Well..... There was this one time but it wasn't creepy I love you's. Jk
It's unbelievable how much carnage he caused and for what. He ruined so many lives and his own for absolutely no reason.... insanity.
No there's a rationale, it's just not one that resonates with you.
@@bro0406 What rationale?
@@bro0406 I agree. I think he became a hateful person and this is the outcome of a child who grew up with no love and only a feeling of abandonment. Mental health needs to become a priority. This kid may have been able to be helped back when he was hurting animals.
@@purest_evil he wanted infamy and got what he wanted by ending the lives of others
The scary part is there's still nutt cases like this out there, and with how easy it is to get guns in the USA that's a recipe for disaster
bro has no game
bro had negative game
He never did it for rejection. They unloaded his entire phone and found a video of him practicing and planning his attack weeks before it happened.
This guy is having trouble conveying just how harrasing and cringey these texts actually are
he was probly desperately lonely
@@gdust6579 Don’t try to justify this weirdo. You literally said you stalked your ex in another comment section. Lol
@@__mindflayer__ they might be a troll
@@gdust6579 school shooter AND Alex jones defender
yep certified cringe moment
@@angelofdeath275 it could be assumed
Sounds like he was basically text stalking her, very creepy and I'm sure it was scary to this girl.
Text stalking? Block and delete easy enough. This guy just doesnt understand social interactions or has blocked them out. But it aint stalking if she never blocked him and he didnt have to change numbers
@@neurodivergentpixi6736 he just said he didn’t have to change numbers. Nobody cares about the unwanted attention you get.
@@neurodivergentpixi6736 we use WhatsApp where i live and that is not possible so get another app where that is not able. Did the guy get arrested? Because usually they wont stop
@@neurodivergentpixi6736 i hope you know stalking is not the same thing as bothering someone
Haha she got burned so hard she deleted everything 🤣🤣 i just copied the defenition of stalking sad little boy
If a man can’t take rejection and keep it moving and not even think about that person anymore then chances are they’re evil creeps like him. Whenever you “date” you’ll go in multiple dates probably with multiple people, some won’t want to go out again or won’t reply or maybe you don’t like that person and there’s not enough time for messing around so you just let them know or move on, no big deal it’s life.
Who hurt you
Just because someone can't take rejection doesn't mean they're a school shooter
Yes, I suck at dealing with rejection therefore I am a school shooter. Tf are you on man, use your brain
Sound like you never found love homie
obviously some people are more sensistive and offended by rejection than others
He really thinks he owns this human being.
Wow I am so grateful that we are able to see all of these details that may seem insignificant but are proving to give such an insight into what was going on in his head. I know that there’s been people that just feel sorry for him due to a belief that he had no one that loved or cared about him or that he didn’t have friends or girlfriends etc and clearly that is not true. I am wondering if he had any real intention of meeting up with his friend and Caroline or if he was just making it look that way so he could pretend that he didn’t have control of his actions and that the shooting wasn’t planned ahead of time. But all he’s accomplished is making it very clear that he was more than capable of making decisions for himself and wasn’t hearing any demonic voices telling him to kill people. And even though he was socially stunted he had friends girls that were possibly interested in him. He is selfish and creepy and demanding but completely sane and knows exactly what he is doing
He had girlfriends but they left him cuz he had issues & the guy texting him was messing with him & the reason I chose not to go is cuz he realized that the guy was messing with him and teasing him it's amazing how people misinterpret something simple to understand they should have got him help instead of teasing him when he was acting unusually demanding or told adult that he's acting unusual and needs help obviously going through a mental health crisis I need antibody class of the teach people how to do this
@@jasminefrichtl806 At what point in his conversation with the guy did you hear teasing ?
I don't really back up the death penalty except in some definitely guilty and extreme cases like this. They need a new law to make these people have second thought. Like 30 days in jail and then on to death
America is the only Western country in the world where still DP is a punishment, how middle-agey is that!?Btw, and yet the criminal statistics show it doesn't work, tho. To punish pple with the same act they did to others , just in another way , isn't the solution, ...and executing minors? Wow, how tough ... . So the prosecution wants the deat of a back then Minor who killed minors🙃🤨🤔 de
@@justinhealey2408 Would probably be more of a blessing for them than anything else
The verbal "play by plays" is incredible. I kind of like it better than video examples. The way they talk, it's like meditating. Everything is explained.
We all have the right to reject someone we don't want to be in a relationship with.
He never did and never will know what love is.
He'll experience plenty of "prison love".
@@hopsta5628 no! DP for him
@@devdr8983 I hope he gets "spit roasted" on a regular basis.
@@hopsta5628 Yup he will experience love when he drops the soap and he'll probably like it
He does, his brother loves him.
It’s terrifying and almost unreal about those timestamps towards the end. (i.e. February 14, 2018, 2:11pm) The shooting unfolded at around 2:19pm, which means these final messages were *minutes* before he would do the unthinkable.
I’m looking through the comments to see if anyone else realized that too, so wild.
i thought this happened few days prior towards THAT day. Thats just crazy.
Yeah it was like his last ditch effort to check in if he had a chance before blowing up his life and others.
Wow, that is really chilling... for him to send such loving messages (granted unwanted messages) to someone right before he killed and injured so many people. It's crazy.
Good job law and crime network as well as the courtroom for actually letting the phone numbers be said and seen so everyone on the internet can spam them
try to imagine how the people he wrote with must have felt after they found out what happened and that it was him who did it.
Probably threw up
Hopefully they realise his issues are his issues, they couldn't have known what he would do or stop him if they did, probably because from what can be gathered from the text message exchange they didn't know him well enough
@@2tired2sleep2 why is throwing up a reaction? I don’t think that exist irl
That’s exactly what I was just thinking too.
@@cor-z8m he didn’t have a machine gun
Those innocents & families have my sympathies and condolences. A truly heartbreaking case and they have to relive the trauma all over again. God bless them all xxxx. May the correct decision be made.
I don't know who that 1 dad can sit there!!! He has the " if looks could kill!!! You would be dead"!!! I hope he can find some little piece of calm at some point. I cry for him and all the families!
He pleaded guilty. Everyone know he guilty. Yall wasting time, money, and resources and giving a dude attention. Just give him the penalty already and quit the bs
Exactly. But this trial probably helps empower & heal the families of the victims, to get their justice. Who knows.
Im glad Nik has enough respect to admit to his guilt.
@@shesomadeline uhh... its not like he was in a position to deny it.
That's not how the system works, everyone gets their day in court regardless of how horrific the crime. It's called due process and it happens for a reason.
Without a trial one could claim they admitted guilt under duress, that would embolden prosecutors to force plea bargains simply to pad their stats, after all thats how prosecutors are judged. Most wanna move up or into a private practice, many innocents could end up in jail for things they didnt do. It would embolden police to interrogate people as they please for the same exact reason. If the defense attorney doesn't do their job then he could appeal the decision saying he didn't have fair representation. The whole trial would have to happen again, he could even change his plea at that point just to drag the whole thing out. How do you think the victims families would feel? Or those who survived his attack?
You can't let emotions circumvent logical thinking. If everyone did that our country would be pure chaos. Yall should educate yourself on how our judicial system works
@@SlimTheGoat Thank God another someone else has the understanding that it's vital to ensure a thorough due process with adequate representation. It's alarming how many people would allow emotions to eliminate our constitutional rights. People also don't understand the importance of the sentencing phase which is what we've been watching. The jury will be deliberating on life without the possibility of parole or the death sentence in doing so the state has the burden of proving he isn't mentally incapacitated in any way because if the defense can prove he's incapacitated mentally in any way it's unconstitutional to sentence him to death. The state is doing amazing in showing that he knew exactly what he was doing and he attempted to manipulate more serious mental health problems knowing he was planning this act of evil.
@@megannoe2057 it's alarming how ignorant some folks can be.
I saw so many people asking why the text messages were being read aloud and some people truly thought it was to embarrass him. One person answered "its to provoke him into an outburst to prove he's crazy"
It's actually pretty scary when you think about it
LOL, his attorney is like "fml"
The deputies faces in the background are kind of amusing.
Geez… I don’t think the texts could’ve been read in a worse way.
10:56 32 seconds outgoing message ikr :')
Well it’s court they need to say exactly the time and make it all clear.
I give high marks to the judge. She's got nerves of steel, and uncompromised ethics.
And she’s an absolute fox
None from me considering these clowns still haven’t sentenced him and prolonging this circus show for no reason. He’s living the good life.
The judge has been Very Patient and the Lawyers are running around in circles and delaying judgement.
@@smtandearthboundsuck8400 you clearly have little understanding of the legal system. It can take years to make sure all pertinent evidence is viewed and understood. Everything is important in order to prolong his sentencing as much as possible. To prove this was premeditated and he isn’t insane. He’s not just freely walking around during this, he is being held as he is a danger to himself and others.
These texts message exchange is affecting Nik more than the blood curling details of the injuries the victims suffered and family impact statements
maybe rejection is the root cause of what he did
@@gdust6579 it definitely led to it trust me
@@gdust6579 if this is the root cause, he would have targeted the girl
@@hi-il7ug i think that's why he didn't go after Angie. He was truly obsessed with her. He even mentions in one of the videos that he'll see her in the afterlife. It's still cringe.
I love that he has to replay that heart break again.
I’m feeling mean too...its awful
You are horrible enjoying other people suffering even Cruz
@@lvvv812 he brutally murdered 17 people. he deserves to suffer
@@lvvv812 Nah u weird
it isn't heart break, it is stuck up women who only care about tall muscular guys and ignoring him because he doesn't fit the bill
“You know I have a boyfriend, right?”
I’m sorry, but I laughed way too hard at that.
I can’t help but feel disgusted by the way they pamper this murderer.
This gives me so much anxiety. The way he persists and act all obsessed over this girl. There's so many guys who act like this with girls, it happened to me twice already. Its horrible. If a girl doesnt want to talk to you, just leave her tf alone, dont act like she owns you something, like she HAS to talk with you.
Snowflake
He’s more embarrassed about the text msgs than killing all them kids
🤣
I cant🤣😭😭😭
@@millyeleven9969 Guy is a complete loser and lived in fantasyland.
I’m just shocked that ANYBODY would text this dude
Why? He wasn't always a mass shooter. At some point, he was just another kid in school.
@@christopher399 just seems like a weirdo is all 😅
@@TheRealPoPorter I don't think we should judge people for being different or "weird". We now know he's a mass shooter, but there are probably many people that fits your description of being weird, but almost all of them are good people.
@@christopher399 have you been keeping up with the details of this case??? Even before the shooting his behavior was weird. Making threats on TH-cam and so on………just a disturbed young man
@@TheRealPoPorter You just described almost everyone on the internet.
It’s hard being rejected by someone that you are completely obsessed about. I know this first hand. But I didn’t shoot up an entire school over it.
Appreciate that you didn't.
That’s because you aren’t batshit insane.
Me too. As a mother who is terrified of sending their kids to school these days, I appreciate it. Thank you!
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I've been rejected and bullied several times.. I also was dropped out but I won't take everyone's else life.
That guy doesn’t express or show any remorse at all. The devil himself. 😡😡😡
Demon not devil, devil is even worse than him
He even has those extra big serial killer glasses.
@Villain there is LOTS of demons and god is slowing purifying the earth.
The only time I’ve seen him engaged in court. I’m not the bigger person and it gives me some pleasure to see him go through this, given he was seemingly obsessed with this girl/probably in a deluded way thinks he is the victim because he was rejected
This is some of the creepiest, cringe worthy texts. That poor girl. I can't imagine what she must be thinking....
I've literally had a guy send me messages like that. I had to cut all contact and block him and it hurt my career because people would still hire him and I couldn't be on the same set. They didn't think it was a problem.
How you manage to make this massacre about you, you self-centered piece of ..
This is embarrassing
Yeah I got that second hand embarrassment
"too late man" so heartbreaking
Love letters consist of, leave me alone you creep.. she was a good judge of character.
@Vonnie Daniels stalker alert....🚨 I don't want a channel, I just watch TH-cam sometimes.
Paul I agreed with your comment. Don't allow other strangers to break your stride. You keep writing what you wanna write.
@Vonnie Daniels why are you counting? it wouldn't be a thirst for attention from this person... would it?
Seriously but then decided to get Caroline to see him....🤨 Oxymoron situation
@@TateAnakov ✌️✌️
Explains Valentine's Day...
Good pfp choice
this is just putting more stress on this poor girl, i hope everything works out
Just because someone doesn't know how to handle rejections does not mean that women are all of a sudden obligated to date men they don't like to prevent crime. LOL men need to grow up, this is not her fault.
At one point he asks his legal team "if I take the death penalty now will they stop reading these texts out?"
Defense attorneys: "Let's put him in some old grandma eyeglasses so he doesn't look as crazy & menacing."
Those are glasses that you get while in prison, they are the cheapest ones.
Lol they make those for the prisoners 🤣 don’t have many choices in the catalog 🤷🏻♀️🤣
You get no options in prison 🤦🏾♀️. That's what they give you, what they ^ said.
@@mytry4realz29 in the state of Florida you get like 2 options 🤷🏻♀️ only reason I know is I’ve been there
@@megsgriffin Well, they are very lucky there. Here in Ohio and some other states, you get what you are given. Every state is different. It is what it is.
It shows there was some hesitation. He might not have went through with it and attended the fire had he known earlier but his actions stem from rejection. Once he got the Uber, he felt like he couldn’t go back. His decision making seems pretty clear and not impaired by anything at the time. Certainly not by any demons.
@@bubbamaster3116 and to save 15% on his car insurance
Don't matter he still a murdering crud ball
He had already posted a number of videos before this date declaring his intent to commit a mass murder at the school. It had nothing to do with this girl.
Wouldn't that throw out any of the "mental" state BS the defender is trying?
Going back from willing to kill a bunch of people? No, this guy was made to do this. Some people are just bad, a bomb waiting to blow. If it wasn't the 17 people at that school, It would have been later on down the road. This wasnt just a bad day, and feeling rejected... It takes a stone cold psycopath to follow through with what he did.
It's great to see him actually be hurt by seeing these messages...I think Angie should get on stage and break his heart. That would be EPIC and well deserved!!!
i think he didnt deserve to be rejected and so lonely it seems her bf was txting him that she was "coming" as in they were having s** right until the shooting. thats not right of them
@@gdust6579 Uh, what? What do you mean "deserve" to be rejected? Rejection is not about the person being rejected, but the person who is rejecting. Angie has the right to reject anyone she wants. Dating someone just because you feel sorry for them is worse than rejecting them. If you don't like someone, you reject them, that's part of life. If Cruz couldn't deal with that, that's his fault, not hers.
@@gdust6579 Ah yes the classic victim blaming. She had every right to reject him. Rejection is something everyone goes through and have to deal with. And unless you have the emotional capacity of a three year old that’ll be something you don’t understand. Dating someone out of pity or obsession is not love. Far from it. I’ve seen you on multiple comment sections trying to justify Cruz’s actions just because you relate to him or whatnot. Which is pointless because you seem to have the same attributes as him. Which is quite fitting since you think trying to buy some guys love for three months is equal to love in the first place.
@Jimmy It doesn’t matter if your a “tall chad” or the complete opposite of that. Everyone gets rejected no matter how attractive they are on a scale. Your comments are absolutely abhorrent on how you speak on the victims. Or your just some troll looking for attention. No one deserves death. Not even bullies. Your just as immature as gdust. Find something better to do bud.
@@gdust6579 I see you all in these comments defending him like he’s the victim. It doesn’t matter what happens to you, killing people is never the answer. Especially over rejection.
Scary how evident this was. This was his last connection with the world.
His face at 7:38 onward is the most emotion hes shows this whole time
He dosn't display much emotion on his face there either...some people just arn't expressive with their face...the only time I saw of him showing alot of emotion is him with his brother.
I can’t believe they told the phone number he called. That person will hear a lot of garbage. Can’t blame her, she could tell there is something wrong with him. She wanted him to leave her alone. Poor Angie!
I'm sure that person was warned ahead of time and has since changed their number.
Pretty sure that phone number has been disconnected and blocked for use by the cell carrier.
Do u know how long ago this was I’m pretty sure she changed it🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
I’m pretty sure it’s his number they are giving out since they are saying the conversation is BETWEEN the number and the contact name.
Lol 😂😂😂 wtf, investigate first talk later
"too late man" breaks my heart.
How sick, he called this event the 'movies'. Produced and written by him, right?
lol
It got him his own spotlight of Time Magazine all dedicated to him. He’s in his own Time magazine, forever. Every page dissected & unturned.
In my mind I was thinking that he called it the “movies” as a reference to the “The Dark Knight Rises” shooting from 2012. Could be totally off-base but that’s the connection I made.
Embarrassing. Who would give him their phone number? Let alone text?
She was probably just trying to be nice before she realized how creepy he was
@@kathleenclark815 Be nice to a kid with a head shaped like his?
@@newswave2134 Yea do you base who you are nice to based on looks?
@@kathleenclark815 Yes.
@@newswave2134 Probably why you're single and have few friends lol
That would have been nice to have the actual girl testify in court.
Some people would probably blame her. As if she should have known.
Some people would probably blame her. As if she should have known.
no
Well, he's set himself up to absolutely never get any attention from a girl or woman again. I hope he realizes that.
Oh he's gonna get some love from Big Bubba.....
Jeez...can I just read the texts without waiting for soomeone to speak out dates and times to me?
It is spoken so it can be stated for the record.
I LOVE THAT THE LAWYER GUY HAS TO READ THIS ENTIRE CONVERSATION SO PAINFULLY SLOW! LIKE HES DRAWING IT ALL OUT ON PURPOSE!!! XD
lol ... this had to be embarrsing even for him😆
Woah! This texting was right before the shooting? He definitely wasn’t going to call it quits just for her. He planned this for over a year
One of the traits of a person with a sociopathic, or psychopathic personality disorder is that they continually violate the rights of others, Nikolas is like one of those rejected ex-husbands who end up stalking their ex-wives, their whole rationale is "If I can't have you, no one else will".
I think you're right. I believe that if he hadn't done what he did, eventually he would've gone after Angie. And I don't want to think about what would've happened to her.
I don’t feel these messages were what prompted Cruz to commit the violent act he did. I feel when he began watching previous school shootings and all the other things he watched over and over again he was already committed to going down the path that led him to commit this horrific crime. 🥺😢 The everlasting repercussions to the families, the survivors, and the communities . 🙏🏼✨🙏🏼✨🙏🏼
He has delusions of grandeur. I like how those messages make him feel small. Someone else said that the girl he had a crush on should show up in court and tell him to his face what a pathetic loser he is. Wouldn't be nearly the mental suffering he deserved, but it would be a start. Seriously, all the victim impact statements mean nothing. This pos doesn't give a crap about that. They should instead do something as I suggested to really humiliate him.
Yeah, he was always going to do it, but it might have sparked him to do it sooner
They probably are what prompted him. A normal functioning person it wouldn't prompt them but it would for an unstable lunatic
@@Naturefan354 you have the same capability with logic as he does. Meaning…you have none. Unbelievable.
@@daniig62 I didn't ask nor care for your opinions. Nobody cares what you think
Dang imagine how the Uber driver felt after finding out he drove him..
Well it isn’t the Uber Drivers Fault he or she didn’t know what was about to transpire
@@ruccireacts never said it was, just said imagine how they felt.
@@nellipalchevskaya2680 who's they???
@@moonlightcortez7837 the Uber driver?
@@moonlightcortez7837 wtf 💀
Well that was a thrilling conversation
Very 🙄🥱
You are scaring me and I want you to leave me alone ----- 💔
I pray this girl never feels one ounce of guilt.
Or his friend J T...
He was planning this evil rampage regardless...
RIP to all the victims. My prayers go out to the victims, survivors and their loved ones...🕊🥀
Like I knew he was a loser but my man out here just lowering the bar
EW NO he uses ^_^ wtf... i'll never be able to use that emoticon the same way now.
The ‘Friend’ he’s texting doesn’t even seem like he likes him
Since when did being an incel become a legal defense?
Fr lol wtf😂
His messages were really creepy and showed he doesn't care about boundaries.
Also I have a gut feeling the girl was probably a minor.
Wow, your gut has amazing feeling abilities! Considering most high school students are minors.
@@tinseltq5032 such is the genius level IQ of someone with pronounce in their name! Such perspicacity.
I mean he was probably at most 19? She could have been 17-18 years old.
Also he has participated in incel ideologies, (specifically by repeatedly praising mass shooter Elliot Rodger) and more often than not, people who associate with incel ideologies are shamelessly pedophilic/predatory.
@@squilliamfreakyson LMFAOOO “pronounce” 😂😂
Love the fact that that guy had to explain all that text lingo to all those old ppl lmao
It’s not for the old people specifically lol. That’s always what they have to do during trials
Ugh this kid even annoyed his friends. Hes just such a creeper!
Wait.. they didn't censor the phone numbers??? Lmao, now that poor girl and her family will have to go through spam calls as well.
Poor Angie 😢
@@ishot2pac69 No wtf
Warning love of your life… lmao
Oh this just shattered his incel heart. All of the videos and pics and gruesome talk of the babies he killed, and this was what got him. If Angie had come to speak and contest to how creepy he is he probably would have cried for the first time. So gross. Get over yourself. Everyone gets rejected.
I'll pay real life money to see Angie come to court long enough to tell him he's gross and she's disappointed in him.
She made him kill people
Incredible how they can see all of our coversations
Stop naming the kid, it's exactly what he wants
I know this is a serious trial and obviously extremely sad, but I can’t help but laugh at these adults slowly reading cringey texts, and then stating when they are from “Warning Love Of Your Life”. Like they just say it so flat and exact 😂😂
@Trumptards OD on Copium I’m not 30, I’m 26. Lol I didn’t say I was a kid, and they were adults; I was just pointing out the fact that a much older generation is reading these texts in a cringey way-kind of how you would expect boomer parents to be slowly reading something on a phone or other electronic device. I should have said boomers, but they could be Gen X for all I know. I was just trying to make the distinction that they weren’t as young as millennials, and so they were reading it funny and slow.
I'm sure that Michael Satz and the detective didn't enjoy reading his cringe messages.
What’s more surprising is how fast Angie can text a whole sentence under 5 seconds after the previous text and during class 😂
She uses both thumbs simultaneously, like all the Cool Kids.
She's a teenager...duh
That what i was thinking as well lol
The first message could’ve taken a few seconds longer to receive after she hit send, or she could’ve typed them and sent but needed better service before they all sent. NC could’ve also had some cell reception issues receiving delays.
She was probably super annoyed at this point so she wrote it fast
15:55 when he whispered to the woman beside him she blew him off. He looked back at her hoping for some reaction or communication. He thinks wants to help him. Absolutely nobody is there for his support.
Uh... no. They are his counsel. How else should they react? Professionals don't have time to relay body language that you seem to know how to read. There's no room for disdain and bias in the courtroom when it comes to being his legal team, wether he killed 100 more people or he cured cancer
She dodged a bullet
Kids really need to learn coping techniques and how to accept rejection from a young age. Put it in a home ec or health class
rejection isn’t the main issue here
coping has its limits u cant cope forever
Schools still have home ec? And health class?
@@honeybawnches2016 I know in some countries they still have home ec, but at my school I don't ever remember it being offered other than a cooking class for an elective. And that class wasn't exactly properly advertised to students.
There's no reason to reject certain folks whatsoever. Everyone needs someone.