I’ve been running barb since nerf, and I can tell you the objective play has almost disappeared for the average player. Might as well as made it C tier. It’s even worse if you are defending as a barb, maybe D tier defending.
Ma hai chiesto troppi nerf vedi il mago youtuber.. a discapito di tutte le altre classi, in particolare del barbaro..."finalmente nuovo nerf per il barbaro"" ecc ecc... ma non ho mai chiesto un nerf per i monaci o per il mago della sua classe che è OP.. ma continua a ricevere buff!! XDD È ora di porre fine a questa pagliacciata a scapito di chi paga!! Gli youtuber approfittano dell'essere partner per ottenere un vantaggio nel gioco per la loro classe... E ora la comunità si ribella!! Siamo noi a pagare bene nel gioco... È ora di smettere di sfruttare il gioco a tuo vantaggio!! La gente è stufa!!! look at how people on reddit complain about you...people are fed up it's time you had respect for players of all classes that aren't yours!!! You have to have respect for the people who PAY and don't like being ruined by you!!!
This way is much better I would say. Crusader damage should be 10, defense should be 7,objective 8 support and mobility is fine, overall I would give A and not A+. Wizard and Monk is pretty accurate. Barb objective should be higher in my opinion, it was 10 before but even thi it's nerf , it's still a meele. Necro should be A easy, it can be soo annoying.
Yes, and because of that, the objective rating, in my humble opinion, has gone down. But Barb still excels at HOTA damage and is able to take a beating with Undying Rage.
@@ApollyonGaming I dont really understand the objective rating, the barb is still the best person on a idol and no class is better at causing "traffic jams" (1 player holding up 3+ players whether thats on the objective or at a choke point) especially since the majority of players loose there focus when they see they can maybe get a 3v1 kill a barb can run into a group of 5 players and they will try and kill the barb rather than go for the objective 75% of the time so its like 1 barb was able to CC 5 people for what? 10-15 seconds... thats huge for securing objectives. the side with more barbs still wins because nobody comes close to filling the meatshield role like a barb does which is in essence doing the objective.
I like your this new way of rating apart from the traditional, as this one provides more visual details to justify its final score, however I peronally likes the score ratings of the previous mentioned characters to retain so easier to compare, refer and reference, for example the ratings for Monks and Barbs to retain as you move forward to Wizard and so forth.
The reason I hid the previous class ratings was that there were too many numbers on the screen after a few classes, and it didn't look good on small mobile screens.
Yesterday one of my BG, enemy team got 5 barbs while my team only 1 barb, thought we be losing in the start but to our surprise. Enemies with 5 barbs only able to push halfway. LOL. That's a well played game for us. Maybe that underdying nerf worked.
Wizard with Arcane Wind + Freeze + Movement Slowdown is the one best counter to Monks, coupled with a Tempest who knows how to kite or a good HoTA-Barb
Mostly agree however I think you missed one thing for the necromancer as they have arguably the best CC in the game with fear. If you have low cd on wraith, a good necromancer can accompany the team's whale and really disrupt the idol and also land kills on players who could normally just run away. Necro should be 8 or 9 for support if they play it well pushing them to A tier minimum. Overall wouldn't you say the game is as balanced as it's ever been?
Bro, that’s such a good point! That totally skipped my mind. For sure, support can go as high as 8-9 depending on Necro potency. Noting this down, thank you.
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U mentioned bk has no aoe but ravage is cleave like primary, and it does have support using shroud no essence or transfusion and both of those will proc 4 urge and benefactor @ApollyonGaming
@ But none of those skills deal enough damage, which is why BK itself is not a popular class. Players are going for dash builds, but it mostly works best for whales. However, whales have better options. Plus, BK is the least played PvP class at the moment.
Lmao I'm a bk with 2k rez using mephitic cloud for aoe and wave for cc. I have no problem getting a minimum of 8 kills a match. I take down down barbs effortlessly.
@ I think all of these are good ratings, would just said crusader is more like high B for me. At best low A. It got buffed indirectly by barb nerf. But still not as good as monk or tempest.
It was a big class balance change that is shifting the meta of Battlegrounds and how it is being played. Also, we're using a new method to rate the classes moving forward.
The thing is it was spammble before...killing the crusader class cause of it buff removal ability...but sadly it's nerf henced the long cooldown,so yes the 4 rating is justified...in my opinion 😅😅😅
It was a big change that impacted small and F2P Barbs. I've seen some saying during the BG matches that they can't hold or push the idols anymore, and it sucks for them.
Bro, a word of advice. I keep seeing you say this in the past 5-6 PvP videos-every time you say that I’m crying when I’m just talking and discussing something. It’s really starting to give off the vibe that you’re the one crying. So just stop for your own sake, and at least put some effort into leaving some feedback.
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Very Nice Chart format Apollyon! Kudos to you bro! I think other content creators will start using a similar chart style in the near future.
Thank you! I'm still trying to learn and improve. Community feedback has been a huge help
I’ve been running barb since nerf, and I can tell you the objective play has almost disappeared for the average player. Might as well as made it C tier. It’s even worse if you are defending as a barb, maybe D tier defending.
Yeah I played Barb two years ago and was amazing now it’s annoying about to go tempest
Ma hai chiesto troppi nerf vedi il mago youtuber.. a discapito di tutte le altre classi, in particolare del barbaro..."finalmente nuovo nerf per il barbaro"" ecc ecc... ma non ho mai chiesto un nerf per i monaci o per il mago della sua classe che è OP.. ma continua a ricevere buff!! XDD È ora di porre fine a questa pagliacciata a scapito di chi paga!!
Gli youtuber approfittano dell'essere partner per ottenere un vantaggio nel gioco per la loro classe... E ora la comunità si ribella!! Siamo noi a pagare bene nel gioco... È ora di smettere di sfruttare il gioco a tuo vantaggio!! La gente è stufa!!! look at how people on reddit complain about you...people are fed up it's time you had respect for players of all classes that aren't yours!!! You have to have respect for the people who PAY and don't like being ruined by you!!!
This way is much better I would say.
Crusader damage should be 10, defense should be 7,objective 8 support and mobility is fine, overall I would give A and not A+.
Wizard and Monk is pretty accurate. Barb objective should be higher in my opinion, it was 10 before but even thi it's nerf , it's still a meele. Necro should be A easy, it can be soo annoying.
Now no barb can push idol on both side during undying?
Yes, and because of that, the objective rating, in my humble opinion, has gone down. But Barb still excels at HOTA damage and is able to take a beating with Undying Rage.
Yes but on defensive side 5 barbs is still annoying
@@ApollyonGaming I dont really understand the objective rating, the barb is still the best person on a idol and no class is better at causing "traffic jams" (1 player holding up 3+ players whether thats on the objective or at a choke point) especially since the majority of players loose there focus when they see they can maybe get a 3v1 kill a barb can run into a group of 5 players and they will try and kill the barb rather than go for the objective 75% of the time so its like 1 barb was able to CC 5 people for what? 10-15 seconds... thats huge for securing objectives.
the side with more barbs still wins because nobody comes close to filling the meatshield role like a barb does which is in essence doing the objective.
I like your this new way of rating apart from the traditional, as this one provides more visual details to justify its final score, however I peronally likes the score ratings of the previous mentioned characters to retain so easier to compare, refer and reference, for example the ratings for Monks and Barbs to retain as you move forward to Wizard and so forth.
The reason I hid the previous class ratings was that there were too many numbers on the screen after a few classes, and it didn't look good on small mobile screens.
Yesterday one of my BG, enemy team got 5 barbs while my team only 1 barb, thought we be losing in the start but to our surprise. Enemies with 5 barbs only able to push halfway. LOL. That's a well played game for us. Maybe that underdying nerf worked.
Tempest is best ❤
Tempest is king i think
It is fun and good assassin class to play for sure.
Tempest is tank for sure not getting hit for 10 sec is lame
@@karlrobbyabsin4239how can do that?
Wizard with Arcane Wind + Freeze + Movement Slowdown is the one best counter to Monks, coupled with a Tempest who knows how to kite or a good HoTA-Barb
That’s true. Gaining more potency as a wizard has become even more important now to shut down some of the classes you mentioned.
@@ApollyonGaming Yep. If you have decent Potency, 2pc Barons and Misery Elixir, your team will love you and opponent monks will hate you xD
Noooo my BK. haha
BK need some love XD
Mostly agree however I think you missed one thing for the necromancer as they have arguably the best CC in the game with fear. If you have low cd on wraith, a good necromancer can accompany the team's whale and really disrupt the idol and also land kills on players who could normally just run away. Necro should be 8 or 9 for support if they play it well pushing them to A tier minimum.
Overall wouldn't you say the game is as balanced as it's ever been?
Bro, that’s such a good point! That totally skipped my mind. For sure, support can go as high as 8-9 depending on Necro potency. Noting this down, thank you.
Dang appollyon ur wrong on so many details.... this was uninformative and leading ppl to believe false statements
Did you see that it says 'opinion' and not 'fact'? Also, what disinformation are you referring to? Let us know. Please provide your reasons and rating using these rules. Looking forward to it.
U mentioned bk has no aoe but ravage is cleave like primary, and it does have support using shroud no essence or transfusion and both of those will proc 4 urge and benefactor @ApollyonGaming
Plus siphon bat's and wave of blood can b aoe, I often use bk over sader for 4 grace dot stack using siphon bats and wave of blood to leech the best
@ But none of those skills deal enough damage, which is why BK itself is not a popular class. Players are going for dash builds, but it mostly works best for whales. However, whales have better options. Plus, BK is the least played PvP class at the moment.
Lmao I'm a bk with 2k rez using mephitic cloud for aoe and wave for cc. I have no problem getting a minimum of 8 kills a match. I take down down barbs effortlessly.
Crusader is not A+
What's your ratings?
@ I think all of these are good ratings, would just said crusader is more like high B for me. At best low A. It got buffed indirectly by barb nerf. But still not as good as monk or tempest.
So every nerf he will make video now😂
It was a big class balance change that is shifting the meta of Battlegrounds and how it is being played. Also, we're using a new method to rate the classes moving forward.
try melee class and u'll see how much support u can get from spartusk burb. 4 is a joke lol
It’s not much for such a long cooldown. Wizard, Necro, and Support have 6-9 sec cooldowns. I agree it’s powerful, but Barb is not a support class.
The thing is it was spammble before...killing the crusader class cause of it buff removal ability...but sadly it's nerf henced the long cooldown,so yes the 4 rating is justified...in my opinion 😅😅😅
This is not true.. its still op my friend..
I’d like some feedback on the class ratings. How would you rate each class?
This barb nerf was minor lol.. noobs still keep crying barb is OP..
apollyon keep crying😂😂😂
It was a big change that impacted small and F2P Barbs. I've seen some saying during the BG matches that they can't hold or push the idols anymore, and it sucks for them.
Bro, a word of advice. I keep seeing you say this in the past 5-6 PvP videos-every time you say that I’m crying when I’m just talking and discussing something. It’s really starting to give off the vibe that you’re the one crying. So just stop for your own sake, and at least put some effort into leaving some feedback.
Hey nice video apolly
nerf wiz