Inside an 8.8-litre V8 McLaren Can-Am Monster

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ส.ค. 2024
  • Andy Newall showed Goodwood around the incredible McLaren M8 Can-Am car at the world famous Silverstone Classic. Boasting an 8.8-litre V8 engine and nearly 900hp, this car is an absolute monster!

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  • @GreenJeep1998
    @GreenJeep1998 8 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    My parents saw these things in action at Road America in the mid-70's, Dad is pretty sure that not only was this car there that race, but when coming up the hill to the grandstands, it caused the cans of pop they were holding to start to vibrate. That was over 40 years ago now and it still impresses him!

    • @philipwild9134
      @philipwild9134 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow! Was the McLaren the only car that made his pop shake or were the other ones also super loud?

    • @GreenJeep1998
      @GreenJeep1998 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +phipil lidw None of them were quiet, but he seems to remember that monster in particular as being the car that made that can quake like it was made from jello.
      They also remember the drunk guy that only had on overalls (no joke, he was otherwise naked and going commando), who had fallen off the top row of bleachers along the front stretch without getting hurt. We went to a few of what is now the NASCAR Nationwide races there and when we got there for the first year's race, the first thing he noticed was that the bleachers were still there, and now had some fencing around the top row to keep the drunks in!

    • @philipwild9134
      @philipwild9134 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +GreenJeep1998 Ok that's why there is a fencing now. Thx for the answer :)
      My grand dad went to the Le Mans race in 1955 when the Mercedes crashed into the crowd. If he wouldn't have gone to get some beer he probably would have been hit by the Mercedes because he stood there where the mercedes crashed. Luckily he was ok after this crash.

    • @frankperrone5663
      @frankperrone5663 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      phipil lidw

    • @bruderrudiger9574
      @bruderrudiger9574 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      phipil lidw Why?

  • @aflatbroke1
    @aflatbroke1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Worked with Andy at Gelscoe MotorSport and helped prep this car for this race. My favourite car out of all we looked after. At Donington Park pre race shakedown it was faster than some 70's F1's on the day.

  • @jasonmcmillan4373
    @jasonmcmillan4373 7 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Man you can tell from the onboard that this car is scary fast even today. So awesome.

    • @mindeloman
      @mindeloman ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Someone once said: "Can-Am - 700 horsepower in a car that is 300lbs. lighter than a Volkswagen."

    • @jameswilson461
      @jameswilson461 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mindelomanIt weighs a lot more than 300lbs

  • @elektro3000
    @elektro3000 8 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    Amazing car. 900 horsepower, listen to that sound. And the way it reels in the lesser cars, looks like the video is in fast-forward. Shocking to think even these numbers are still dwarfed by the 917/30 that could be turned up to almost 1600 horsepower in qualifying tune.

    • @TheEsseboy
      @TheEsseboy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Then think about the BMW straight four with only 1.5L of displacement pushing 1400 HP back in 1986 with 70PSI of boost. Only lasted for qualifying though haha! Full race tune was still around 1000HP though.
      Can only imagine what folks could do today with titanium blocks, heads, rods, crank and pistons! Probably 2,000-2,500HP, and if methanol was permitted hell, 3,000HP wouldn't surprise me!
      *sigh* still dream of them making a proper 3.5 Liter V12 with compund turbos, 20,000RPM limiter and 10 bars of boost, that puppy would surely break the 10,000HP mark! Smack on some unrestricted chassi with ground effect, Variable suspension, variable wings and AWD.
      Hell at 10,000 HP even a propeller would make sense :P Only at like 300mph could you put that to the ground!

    • @MrAquinas1
      @MrAquinas1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      How about running Nitro while you're at it?

    • @jdrok5026
      @jdrok5026 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@TheEsseboy 3.5l and 10k horsepower with 3.5ls and 12 cylinders I don't even see that happening maybe under more then just 20k rpm and turbos it's possible but a v12 that small well it's not going to live long.

    • @thethirdman225
      @thethirdman225 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      elektro3000 Let’s not get carried away. Yes, people are always going to talk about the 917/30 when CanAm comes up. But in race tune, which is what matters, it was pulling about 1,100 hp - about 200 hp more than the McLaren. There is no source for the claims made for the Porsche engine, other than the endless repetition of the internet. Remember, the turbos of that era were not nearly as sophisticated as they are today and had an absolute limit of 1.5 bar. The boost dial was not calibrated either, so in reality, nobody really had that much idea of what it was producing. At max boost it was probably not more than 1,400 - which is a phenomenal amount of power by the way and still 500 more than an 8 litre Chevy. If you look at the real figures; torque and RPM, they don’t really add up, certainly not to the oft-quoted “1,580 hp” that so much jism gets spilt over. The only source I have seen for that is a video game.
      The 917/30 was a special car in anyone’s terms and it took a very special driver to get the best out of it. There’s power and there’s useable power and it would have been even more difficult to drive than the McLarens. The Chev would have been about the same for low end torque but not nearly as good through the midrange and upper revs as the Porsche. That’s the turbo factor at play - less falloff. But they were big turbos and would have taken a lot of air to spin up, unlike today’s turbos which are much smoother. Their cut in would have been savage.

    • @thethirdman225
      @thethirdman225 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @jonny j
      _"For one, with the same size turbos, there is no difference between "todays" turbos and the ones they used to run in can am."_
      Of course there is. For a start, have you ever heard of "Ebersbacher" turbos? They're truck turbo but that doesn't actually make any difference. The difference is in the amount of control you have today. The wastegate was the only thing that could be calibrated. That never ran above 1.5 bar. Any other claims about adjustment are conjecture only because, unlike today, there were no set marks or points on the dial there could be no way of knowing what the exact level of boost was. Now if you know how to work these things out, that is not really enough to support that kind of power claim.
      Secondly, the 912 engine, to give it its proper name, was assembled from air cooled cylinders with no water jacket. The obvious advantages in weight are offset by a lack of torsional rigidity, which was its Achilles Heel. Lack of torsional rigidity is a really Bad Thing. It kills engines. The 912 was also cobbled up from 908 parts, including the connecting rods and cylinders. The difference was that Peich attached them to a flat six block and then joined the two blocks end-to-end with the PTO in the middle. That made for a rather long block, further reducing torsional rigidity.
      Another thing bout the 908: it was built to produce 350-375 hp. the rule of thumb on engine components is that if you double the power output, you quadruple the loads on the internals. But you're claiming more that _triple_ the amount of power, per cylinder, which is just not feasible, even though it's spread over more cylinders. Sure, the components were beefed up but they would have had to be beefed up by a factor of more than 9 to withstand those loads.
      _"And if your talking about assetto corsa, they got that 1580hp straight from porsche LOL..."_
      No they didn't and you can't prove it. Porsche have not made any official claims about this car. I asked. You might find it on a fansite with Porsche logos on it but that isn't really proof of anything. Ian Bamsey - not known for his restraint - did talk of a 912 turbo engine being pressed to destruction in a test cell and claimed the power was somewhere north of 1,500 when it blew up. Oddly enough, I'm inclined to believe him but that is not the same as reliably producing it in a race or in qualifying. An interview by Adam Carolla with a Porsche engineer is decidedly vague about it. The nearest he comes to confirming it is when he says "Yeah, I heard about that but I was not there". Not exactly a ringing endorsement.

  • @Troubleshooter125
    @Troubleshooter125 8 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Always loved those old McLarens ... utter beasts that went like hell!

    • @savagetuner2404
      @savagetuner2404 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Troubleshooter125 lets be honest it’s a Chevy

    • @savagetuner2404
      @savagetuner2404 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DarkHumorWritesItself Not the only one loving all 8.8 liters of it

  • @nedpike2186
    @nedpike2186 8 ปีที่แล้ว +242

    Can-Am. A brief shining moment when absurdity in the pursuit of victory was normal and achieving victory required psychosis. It will never happen again, but the world is a far far better place for it happening in the first place.

    • @FCN933
      @FCN933 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I salute you, sir!

    • @micowikstrom7182
      @micowikstrom7182 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "far far better place"
      -What are you on?

    • @Dyshof
      @Dyshof 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Can-Am. A brief shining moment when race sports was not captivated by restrictive rules and manipulating regulations.

    • @betaorionis2164
      @betaorionis2164 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cars were awesome, but that absurdity you mention supposed huge differences in competitiveness, which made races dull and predictable.

    • @THESLlCK
      @THESLlCK 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@betaorionis2164 You prefer the speedwalker races we have now?

  • @captjim007
    @captjim007 7 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    It's a Big Block go cart

    • @ThePerpetualStudent
      @ThePerpetualStudent 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      pretty much

    • @savagetuner2404
      @savagetuner2404 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Racer X what a monster

    • @michaelgomez4994
      @michaelgomez4994 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      your sitting inside a GAS TANK let that sink in

    • @charlesparr3296
      @charlesparr3296 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, a big block go cart!!!

    • @RRVCrinale
      @RRVCrinale 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Shadows were that but even more. Hell, one of them was basically a _laydown_ big block go-kart.

  • @nzsaltflatsracer8054
    @nzsaltflatsracer8054 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It never ceases to amaze me how "Inside" in these video's never actually gets "Inside" the car where most of us want to see!

    • @nzsaltflatsracer8054
      @nzsaltflatsracer8054 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @TriplePlay That's the way we are at Bonneville, the kids love it.

  • @beagle7622
    @beagle7622 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Remember Hulme said they couldn’t get to close to his teammate accelerating out of corners as the front wheels would lift. I saw an interview with him . These were his favourite cars.

  • @snivelinj7612
    @snivelinj7612 8 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I saw these breathtaking cars race a couple of times at Riverside Raceway in Californa in the early 70's. You should have heard the roar of this big field of cars ! Dennis Hulme and Bruce McLaren led the whole race until Bruce broke something and spun off the track and into a wall right in front of me, and spun back down onto the track again. He hit a flag man right in front of me as well. I think he died but I'm not certain. Hulme won the race. I miss these fantastic tigers and their roar, beauty, and speed.

    • @dingerb1509
      @dingerb1509 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Bruce Mclaren was killed June 2nd 1970 testing his car at Goodwood circuit in England.

    • @thethirdman225
      @thethirdman225 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jeez, that's grim. That's one of the reasons I stopped going. I was always worried I was going to see something like that.

    • @raymondlowry8564
      @raymondlowry8564 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We must have been standing fairly close to each other as he hit the infield wall almost exactly in front of me. As I recall something in his suspension broke. 1969 was also the last year of the “high” wing in the cars. I actually managed to get his autograph on Saturday while walking around the pits. I will never forget that race!

  • @micowikstrom7182
    @micowikstrom7182 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You can't top that 8.8-litre V8 sound & fury!

    • @JerseyMikeP
      @JerseyMikeP 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's called a top fuel HEMI. STILL the KING to this Day.

    • @Loulovesspeed
      @Loulovesspeed 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @JerseyMikeP - we're talking road racing here, that's the only type of racing this car ever saw. Drag racing is another world completely - no comparison at all.

    • @savagetuner2404
      @savagetuner2404 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Loulovesspeed pretty sure it’s not. The mclaren was NA. With a supercharger and modern parts it would easily break 1,500-2,000hp and run decently.

  • @saleemwaheed9956
    @saleemwaheed9956 7 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    One fortunate fellow. How could anyone let this car fall into disrepair? Hell, the car gets fixed before the kids eat.

    • @wingracer1614
      @wingracer1614 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Few things are as worthless as a just obsoleted race car. It's not until the kids that grew up watching them get old and rich that the values spike.

    • @almostfm
      @almostfm 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Back in the day, it apparently wasn't unknown for a team to just sell off cars at the last race of the season if they were going to replace them for the following year. Wasn't worth the cost to ship them back home. A lot of former NASCAR cars ended up running the regional series on the west coast because the season ended at Riverside.

    • @scottgolden2766
      @scottgolden2766 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      wingracer 16 I always thought that some parts went to the new car. So it was rare to find a complete running race car. Buying 3/4 of a car missing one off parts means you may never get it running again

    • @ROTAXD
      @ROTAXD 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Scott Golden it was a good old Chevy big block in that car. If nothing else, getting it running again would be one of the most simple things in the world.

  • @aeron-mw7ofs
    @aeron-mw7ofs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Awesome 👍 Great to see these old beauties being used for what they were built for .

  • @stevenmoore4078
    @stevenmoore4078 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One of the best looking race cars ever.

  • @BigEightiesNewWave
    @BigEightiesNewWave 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    saw these race at Riverside Raceway.

  • @johncorboy7952
    @johncorboy7952 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That is one cool beast . I guess that splitter is the key to stop it flying ?

  • @paxwallacejazz
    @paxwallacejazz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love this car from childhood the bigblock chevys the unlimited tech parameters of Can Am. It was a great great thing. F1 drivers Endurance Le mans drivers a few Indy drivers there will never be anything like it again.

  • @zeus-mt7wx
    @zeus-mt7wx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    When drivers were drivers.
    Race cars were race cars.
    The car sounds like heaven opened up.

  • @renedeveze-aguirre1963
    @renedeveze-aguirre1963 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Remember Peter Revson, Dennis Hulme and Dan Gurney on McLaren cars at the Can Am series, what a great years and Jackie Stewart was on a Lola, back in the 70's.

  • @chuckyboy6977
    @chuckyboy6977 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Can-am, when F1’s were not the quickest cars on the track..

    • @thethirdman225
      @thethirdman225 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There were plenty of places where they were.

    • @milesdufourny4813
      @milesdufourny4813 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thethirdman225 But not on the same track.

    • @thethirdman225
      @thethirdman225 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@milesdufourny4813 No. I think, from memory, the outright lap record at Watkins Glen was held by a CanAm McLaren for a while.

    • @mortenfrosthansen84
      @mortenfrosthansen84 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      First of all, I couldn't find any info of a 8,8 litre engine.... a 7,5 turbo, 7,6 na, 8,1 na, 8,2 na, 8,3 na and a 8,4 na. No 8,8..
      Second. On tracks where outright speed is predominant, such as Le Mans, the F1 of same era would be beaten. But if they were to compete on the formula calendar circuits, then F1 would come out on top..
      They were a lot lighter than CanAm. A lot...
      McLaren M8F: 690-740 bhp vs 689-720 kg. With turbo 930 bhp and 689 kg..!*
      McLaren m23: 460-490 bhp vs 570-575 kg.*
      *Numbers depends on where you find info on specs.

    • @andykerr3803
      @andykerr3803 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mortenfrosthansen84 The North American motor situation seems very radical compared to the the European or Asian developments. Chevy small block racing parts... titanium rods, exotic pistons found their way into VW flat fours and even Harley Davidsons. There was so much development put into those motors it got into totally different motors. The determining factor for small or big block was not engine displacement... It was crankshaft journal size. The 351 Ford Cleveland was a big block, the 351 Ford Windsor was a small block. Small nlock Chevies were commonly bored and stroked to 425 ci for racing... they were lighter with more parts available. The AMC 401 was a small and could use Chevy parts for racing like the Penske/Donahue AMX. The 2 liter VW flat four could be built up to 4 liters for drag racing, both 2 and 4 liters are considered big blocks, the 1600, a small block. So, yeah, things aren't always what the numbers might suggest. I could guess how and why they would go to an 8.8 liter Chevy non boosted motor, throttle response, reliability, less internal efficiency loss, the laws of physics favor big blocks in certain areas... air flow is one. Above all, the simplicity and consistency of a gear driven cam overhead pushrod valve can have big advantages. The 427 belt driven SOHC was a mess, powerful but sloppy.
      This is why Mercedes went to pushrods in F1, also there were favorable rules... Fun to look back, the new raxial design electric motors will make them all fun dinosaurs 🦕

  • @billwelter4101
    @billwelter4101 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Watched CanAm cars at Laguna Seca, these are scary when they go by!!!

  • @paxwallacejazz
    @paxwallacejazz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This car is pure legend from my childhood.

  • @busman7228
    @busman7228 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    50 years ago and that car is still brutal fast

  • @johnbeckman8916
    @johnbeckman8916 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What a GLORIOUS time!
    ........... And then the lawyers showed up. 😢

  • @Mzee1084
    @Mzee1084 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Bring back Can-am!

  • @barath4545
    @barath4545 8 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    540 ci BBC. 100+ hp/L at the crank for 1973, for that size of N/A engine, built to last 6+ hours, is pretty darn good.

    • @niebuhr6197
      @niebuhr6197 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a modern engine. Not from 1973.

    • @SAVikingSA
      @SAVikingSA 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Can-Am races weren't 6+ hours, they were usually 2-3 hour sprint races.

    • @treatb09
      @treatb09 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      you say built to last so long, because you think it makes it sound better..

    • @jackallen6261
      @jackallen6261 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Yeah but this is 50 year old tech not contemporary that's the point of the comment. Push rods and rocker arms not overhead cam. No computer no electronic fuel injection.

    • @TheEsseboy
      @TheEsseboy 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Jack Allen, so what? Doesn't make an excuse for it's tractor like tune...should have at least 1200HP...

  • @ExtremelyEpicz
    @ExtremelyEpicz 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Saw his timed shootout run at fos this year, what a machine.

  • @crusherbmx
    @crusherbmx 8 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    8.8 litres in a car like that is just plain stupid....but in a good way.

    • @crusherbmx
      @crusherbmx 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You mean the engine or the balls needed to drive that beast?

    • @crusherbmx
      @crusherbmx 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gotta love it!

    • @crusherbmx
      @crusherbmx 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow

  • @petyrkowalski9887
    @petyrkowalski9887 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It worth watching the docu-film about Bruce Mclarens life...brilliant. He basically built and raced in canam to pay for his F1 team.

    • @jjhpor
      @jjhpor 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      ...because the 917 was so much faster than anything else that it wasn't any fun to watch. I saw a CanAm race at Riverside in 1974 standing just before turn 6 where you couldn't see the start-finish line. The cars did a running start so you could hear the engines winding up before the green flag. There was a tremendous roar then you saw two Porsches and about 15 minutes later came all of the V8s. The Porsches hardly made a sound.
      OK I exaggerated, but not much.

  • @chrismoody1342
    @chrismoody1342 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I knew a gentleman that raced a BBC Lola in SCCA. That car was insane at full tilt. He would pass 5-6 cars every time down the straight. He would be lapping the field in the first five minutes. If you want to see a McLaren driven in anger look up Jim Pace Motorsports. He’ll give you a real ride.

  • @oscarzt1652
    @oscarzt1652 8 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    8.8L, 8 cylinders, 888hp, called the chevy M8 (i know the designer's favourite number)

    • @RACECAR
      @RACECAR 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Its also worth noting that if you also count the race number on this car along with those other 8s you mention, that is a total of eight 8s. *Plays X-Files theme*

    • @savagetuner2404
      @savagetuner2404 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      RACECAR dude that is hella funny

  • @diegomr6969
    @diegomr6969 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    250 km/h in 5 seconds only with helmet is insaneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

  • @beagle7622
    @beagle7622 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Please correct me if I am wrong but weren't the blocks built by Reynolds and were Aluminium with steel liners. Denny Hulme was a hell of a driver,you don't win a F1 World Championship unless you are. It was perhaps a little harder in those days, tracks were often wild to say the least and the cars mobile fuel tanks.I went to school half mile from the Sandown racetrack in Melbourne and my friend had quite chat with Denny. He had a reputation for being very abrupt . Not true he was a great character and even better story teller and treated us school kids as equals. We used to shoot down after school on our bikes on Wed Thurs and Fri. The guys were easy to get on with, the Tasman series was very relaxed but the racing was racing.My autograph book has six F1 world champion and we got to push Lotus 49's and other cars around the paddock. My best memory of motor racing was watching Jim Clark alone in a Lotus 49 on the track for about 45 minutes obviously fiddling with the handling because he had that car sideways in places it should never have been sideway, and the sound was exquisite bouncing off large advertising boards. Clark was dead about 3 months later and that really upset me at the time. He did acknowledge me when I saw him on Fri and 16 year olds cherish that. I know I am off topic but I was able to see up close amazing machines similar in concept to this Mclaren. Denny mentioned these cars in one of his stories. When the crowds hit Sat they went behind the ropes, and they were separated from the crowd, still fun though. I always paid double the admission cost for a paddock pass. Greatest days of motor racing!!

    • @Pulsonar
      @Pulsonar 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Beagle76 On the strength of those great anecdotes alone you lived a dream of a young life my friend

    • @andyharman3022
      @andyharman3022 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I suppose the blocks were cast by Reynolds, but they were machined and built into engines by Chevrolet. Early blocks had iron liners, but later ones were linerless aluminum of high silicon content. GM had been working with Reynolds Aluminum for about 10 years to develop linerless technology, and the big Can Am engines were their ultimate proving ground. The 495 and 512 engines were linerless.

  • @THESLlCK
    @THESLlCK 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice CHEVY you got there.

  • @clemsiemckenzie9799
    @clemsiemckenzie9799 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You have to show us that Matra next!

  • @cuddzilla
    @cuddzilla 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The golden age of motorsports.

  • @coryholbrook4643
    @coryholbrook4643 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I only watched it because they mentioned the “8.8L V8” engine in the title

  • @darrellsomers5427
    @darrellsomers5427 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Can am that's all you need to say !

  • @eedesign878
    @eedesign878 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I need this for the street!

  • @timtripp4222
    @timtripp4222 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    If interested, Road American has races of them. Then after, a look but don't touch dinner in RA center after. A great day at RA, for sure!

  • @letsride2057
    @letsride2057 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They were a 494 CID Reynolds aluminum block with aluminum heads and I believe it was Hilborn fuel Injection. I helped a friend put one together, it was an M8e, in the 90's after getting it back from the engine builder. Dyno read 794 hp 798 torque. We were trying to get it ready for the historic at Seattle International Raceway in I believe 1990. The engine builder had done a couple of other Can Am motors also. There were about eight of us working all night trying to finish for the opening day. I was working on the oil system braided lines. They only go one way and the builder had just put them in a box when the motor was picked up. At about two in the morning after hours of trying to figure out which one went where, I relished that we had some of the wrong hoses. It was so disappointing to tell the others that it was not going to fire tonight or should say this morning. Couple of days later and the correct hoses we were ready to fire it up. Now I was no stranger to high performance motors, street raced a 383 Road Runner in the 70's that a built motor running 12.5 to 1 pistons and a very large cam, but I tell you, when that monster started, everyone jumped as if an explosion went off. I had to look to see if it had blown the fence down just twenty feet away! Words can not explain what that was like, however, I ran across this vid on youtube and it is so close, it is worth wearing head phones for the first time and will leave forever memory th-cam.com/video/FKOki34YkK4/w-d-xo.html
    Going to go listen to it right now, the compression ratio must have been crazy...

    • @beyond_the_infinite2098
      @beyond_the_infinite2098 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      lets Ride cool story

    • @thethirdman225
      @thethirdman225 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      What revs for those numbers?

    • @JerseyMikeP
      @JerseyMikeP 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      So Peak power was below 5,252? Thgat's where it would cross if it rev'd and made more power up top.

    • @thethirdman225
      @thethirdman225 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JerseyMikeP No, the formula is torque x RPM ÷ 5252 = power.

    • @JerseyMikeP
      @JerseyMikeP 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thethirdman225 LOL, Every Car guy knows the formula power....But torque is whats hard to control..especially in the wet. Can-am cars also had alot less down force making them more of a hand full. IF it made more top end power it would ALways have more HP than Torque if it's Normally aspirated.

  • @TheSupradude26
    @TheSupradude26 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    900 hp go kart basically. Never will we see cars like this again. Not safe and far too much power but it separated the men from the boys in a hurry...

  • @mtnman1984
    @mtnman1984 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It sounds like it's shot down the track by a massive jackhammer.

  • @blusharx
    @blusharx 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    it´s like riding a canonball

  • @chriswalker2858
    @chriswalker2858 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome vehicle

  • @troman5000
    @troman5000 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    OH DAMN!!!

  • @hughmongous6613
    @hughmongous6613 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a beast!😲

  • @vancecalvin4042
    @vancecalvin4042 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You had to be a Real Man to Drive this Beast

  • @1ronEntertainment
    @1ronEntertainment 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    BRO
    I SAW ONE OF THESE AT CARS N COFFEE
    HAD NO CLUE WHAT IT WAS

  • @cdjhyoung
    @cdjhyoung 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So, where exactly was the 'inside' part of this car review?

  • @Mega007007007007
    @Mega007007007007 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    CHEVY POWER !!!!!

    • @beagle7622
      @beagle7622 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      topfuel denmark They may have used the basic Chev design but these things had alloy blocks and heads . They were pushrod engines but they were not really Checrolet engines.

    • @savagetuner2404
      @savagetuner2404 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Beagle76 they were Chevy engines “but not really”
      Yeah ok dude.

  • @troygaskins2082
    @troygaskins2082 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Baddest cars on planet

  • @stevefowler2112
    @stevefowler2112 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    These model McLaren cars with the big block chevy engines dominated Can-Am...right up until the Porsche 917/30 showed up, with over 1,200 H.P. on full twin turbo boost it pretty much killed Can-Am.

    • @savagetuner2404
      @savagetuner2404 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Steve Fowler Porsche shouldn’t even have joined. Too much money compared to the up and coming racers.

  • @feral4mr2
    @feral4mr2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What I'd do to take that for a strap around Lakeside park here in Australia!

  • @joaoa13portugal
    @joaoa13portugal 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    this has 1.1 litres per cylinder
    Holy
    goddamn
    crap

    • @JerseyMikeP
      @JerseyMikeP 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @
      João Agnelo, Should check out IHRA Pro-Stock... There "Mountain motors" are over 800 ci V8's that are about 1.68L/cylinder making 1,600

    • @savagetuner2404
      @savagetuner2404 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      João Agnelo the closest we have today is the Dodge Viper, 8.4L v10, larger engine than a Bugatti Chiron.

  • @mkl2872
    @mkl2872 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @Twiggyay
    @Twiggyay 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jesus. That'd be like having a 4.4l 4-cyl.

  • @alainbelanger6666
    @alainbelanger6666 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Faster than F1

    • @alessandroarizaluski9178
      @alessandroarizaluski9178 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      1955 f1

    • @TheEsseboy
      @TheEsseboy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not by a long shot!

    • @flyingphoenix113
      @flyingphoenix113 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Well, it was indeed faster than most early 1970's F1 cars around the larger tracks where downforce would really come into play. We have the records. Obviously, it wouldn't be faster around a tight track like Monaco, but the VASTLY superior power to weight ratio, increased lateral grip, and superior downforce of these Can Am cars make them a force with which to be reckoned!

    • @2lotusman851
      @2lotusman851 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      In the late 60s and early 70s, the fastest CanAm cars were faster than the fastest F1 cars when run on the same track (different race dates, of course). By several seconds. And just as unreliable.
      I remember in the early / mid 70s that the Shadow team ran an exhibition race at Laguna Seca with two Shadow F1s and 2 Shadow CanAms. In this case the F1 cars were a bit faster.

  • @peterf1
    @peterf1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Of course everyone's fascinated by the massive engine, but note he's telling us the car was defeated by a 3 liter Matra. "Horsepower" is more easily found between a driver's ears than on the dyno.

  • @RickyJr46
    @RickyJr46 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A brute and yet so seductively beautiful.

  • @scottl.1568
    @scottl.1568 ปีที่แล้ว

    8.8L??

  • @coleschott007
    @coleschott007 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I Love It

  • @nzmarkb8713
    @nzmarkb8713 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Go the kiwi car👍

  • @tscooter22
    @tscooter22 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would someone mind explaining what he was talking about the intake lengths? It sure looks like some are taller than others, but his explanation doesn't make sense to me.
    That said, this is one amazing machine! Thanks for the video!! :thumbs up:

    • @ldnwholesale8552
      @ldnwholesale8552 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The distance from the tip of the trumpet to the valve is aproximatly the same. That is what he meant. They always looked a bit strange but hey,,,900plus HP and near as much torque from a [alloy version] truck engine makes them a real beast.

    • @thethirdman225
      @thethirdman225 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      tscooter22 Big block issue, I suspect.

    • @savagetuner2404
      @savagetuner2404 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      tscooter22 varied intake trumpets gave different torque curves per cylinder. Short and wide intake trumpets give power at high rpm, long and thin give immense torque at very low RPM.

  • @brittenv1000
    @brittenv1000 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    was it built by Trojan or McLaren?

  • @fredrickmillstead6397
    @fredrickmillstead6397 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    1100 cc per cylinder, probably 1k bhp and 1700 lbs +-. Good lord, what a monster, and the 917/30 was even stronger.

  • @michaelgautreaux3168
    @michaelgautreaux3168 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Monster? That car is Gorgeous! I been in love w/ "McLarens" 4 over 46 yrs, nothing finer., Then or now. D & F models are best. Be safe.

  • @badnomad357
    @badnomad357 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    537 cu in? Wow

  • @poffy8888
    @poffy8888 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Take it to Indy, b4 the raceway closes down. > wont b long, unfortunately....

  • @ROTAXD
    @ROTAXD 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Notice the guy says 8.8 liter engine...but intentionally deletes the fact that it’s a good ol American Chevy big block ?

    • @darrellsomers5427
      @darrellsomers5427 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      God loves a big block chevy

    • @savagetuner2404
      @savagetuner2404 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ROTAXD English pride is a bit too prideful for what they’ve got lol

  • @georgemallory797
    @georgemallory797 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A big block is 6.5-7.5 litres. 8.8L is a truck engine.

    • @andyharman3022
      @andyharman3022 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No it's not. GM never built an 8.8L truck engine. They built tall-deck 427's and 496's.

  • @christopherharmon2433
    @christopherharmon2433 ปีที่แล้ว

    McLaren dominated the CanAm series until Porsche showed up with the 917/10 and 30. Then it was game over.

  • @stimpy510
    @stimpy510 8 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I'd like to meet the three people that DIDN'T like this video.

    • @JerseyMikeP
      @JerseyMikeP 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Only Some Dumbshit calling himself "The Esseboy" Must be a Illegal Mexican.

    • @thethirdman225
      @thethirdman225 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheEsseboy One word: Coyote.

  • @jbergquist0309
    @jbergquist0309 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    4 ppl drive a prius

    • @TheEsseboy
      @TheEsseboy 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      4 ppl drive a car with a 1000 HP 2JZ and laugh at the peasant technology.

    • @flyingphoenix113
      @flyingphoenix113 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Lol, >cites 2JZ >makes joke about peasant technology> fails to realize that the 3 liter 2JZ is 30-40 pounds heavier than that of a 7 liter LS7 V8.

    • @TheEsseboy
      @TheEsseboy 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good joke, a fully assembeled 2JZ is around 350 lbs, a 7L LS7 V8 is around 450 lbs. And that is dry weight...with fluids the LS7 goes up to 480 and the 2JZ only to 365.
      The LS7 is 24% heavier, has more vibrations, makes less power on stock internals, and the stock block is not capable of 2000HP as many Supras have proven the 2JZ can do, while be it with fully upgraded internals and a little bit of bracing.
      And yea, I was counting in the Turbos too...don't you worry!

    • @flyingphoenix113
      @flyingphoenix113 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I don't know where you got those numbers, but I JUST swapped a 650hp NA LS7 a little over a month ago, and it was 410 lbs. on the scale without any accessories, and around 465 lbs. with fluids, pulleys, and all other accessories. That said, I have yet to see a 500hp+ 2JZ that didn't push the 390lbs mark dry (block and turbo only). With intercooler, piping, and everything else involved, I'm yet to see a fully functioning, intercooled 2JZ weighing less than 500 lbs. all in.
      Additionally, who would want a 2JZ other than for its *slightly* lower polar moment of intertia? It isn't any cheaper to get to that point than an LS, and it has a narrower powerband, less low-end torque, and the "famous 2J drop-off" at the top of the RPM range. That's without even going into the inherent disadvantages of a turbocharger. Additionally, the LS actually had a lower center of gravity as well due to the cam-in-block design as opposed to the DOHC arrangement on the 2J (which, is undeniably more efficient, but less useful since most modern racing scenarios have horsepower caps anyway). I've worked both as a mechanic and as an automotive consultant for a living. I assume you, this is no joke.

    • @TheEsseboy
      @TheEsseboy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +flyingphoenix113
      Well, when you can push the LS block to 2000HP without much bracing call me up, and yea I'd like around 30% efficiency too! Can you do that with the LS? I think not. There is only so much you can do with only one breathing valve....
      If you put on a better head on the 2JZ you will get a lot more low end torque, it's all in the head and cams, but typically a 2JZ is aimed for higher rev range! And with good cams and heads you can get nice results in the 4000-10000rpm rev range, if you need more rev range you should learn how to shit ;)
      LS7 engines are pretty good, if you need to haul a trailer all day, but if you want to race, stick to the 2JZ, it won't throw a rod if you push the boost a tad :)
      Lower CG? eehm with the Turbos and inter cooler down low I'd say it's a dead race.

  • @KieranMckean
    @KieranMckean 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    People dont understand why i like living here they've obviously never been to road America 😎 🏍️🏎️

  • @dano4572
    @dano4572 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow,,,,, what a trophy,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,girl!

  • @stevedriver1476
    @stevedriver1476 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    McLaren were a new zealand built car

  • @ianpoppleton7550
    @ianpoppleton7550 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Proper racing car can’t you smell it?

  • @95bochamp
    @95bochamp 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah, nice car. Who was the woman on the right side of the podium?

    • @savagetuner2404
      @savagetuner2404 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      John Johansen the likes you’ll never get if you don’t quit acting like a child lol

  • @brentstuckey9942
    @brentstuckey9942 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    There was no inside of the car!

  • @dthellland9738
    @dthellland9738 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    does it run on methanol? nitro dissolves into methanol and potentially double hp

  • @BoilerBloodline
    @BoilerBloodline 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Back when aircraft/aerospace grade metals had to be used for splitters (due to the ridiculous forces put on them) because carbon fiber hadn’t reached race cars yet. Now that I think about it and if I’m not mistaken, I actually think McLaren was the first actually use carbon fiber on a race car? I think they began using it on their F1 car in the early to mid 80’s. Anyone else recall this or has my middle aged brain finally gone to mush from all the drugs I fed it in college? Lol!

    • @andyharman3022
      @andyharman3022 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah. The McLaren MP4 of 1984 was the first carbon-fiber F1 car. McLaren bought the technology from the US company Hercules, who was making MX missile cases for the US Air Force out of carbon fiber. At least, that's the way my middle-aged brain recalls it.

    • @BoilerBloodline
      @BoilerBloodline 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andyharman3022 Crazy! I did not know the MX Missile part. Thanks for the info.

  • @andyharman3022
    @andyharman3022 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Chevies can get bigger. Why only a 540? They can easily go to 572.

  • @modelcitizen72
    @modelcitizen72 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Driver? No.
    Astronaut.

  • @BIGBLOCK5022006
    @BIGBLOCK5022006 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Then Porsche showed up to the party with the 917/30 Turbo Panzer and really got things going.

  • @rondee
    @rondee 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's nearly two Fiat 500s per cylinder 😬

  • @donbrashsux
    @donbrashsux 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can Am was motor racing Porn..

  • @petercavellini3232
    @petercavellini3232 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    And then came along the .....Porsche 930 Can-am, 1200 reliable horse power and was virtually unbeatable till they changed the regs because...?🤔

    • @thethirdman225
      @thethirdman225 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Peter Cavellini As much to do with the driver as anything else.

    • @Loulovesspeed
      @Loulovesspeed 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @TheThirdMan - What are you trying to say - that the driver of the Porsche Can Am car was the only reason it won?. I'll agree that the primary driver, Mark Donohue, was one of the very best of his time but the car itself made all others obsolete which, for the most part, killed Can Am altogether!

    • @thethirdman225
      @thethirdman225 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Loulovesspeed I am trying to say exactly what I said: that it was as much to do with the driver as anything else. Anyone here think this car would have been easy to drive? And what about the team who prepped it? The internet is in love with the idea that machines win. The internet is equally in love with the idea that everything is reducible to binaries. Go back to 1973 and look at the results. The first two races were business as usual for a McLaren.

    • @Loulovesspeed
      @Loulovesspeed 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I guess I interpreted your comment wrong. My point, and my only point, is that the Porsche 917-30 was in and of itself, the most dominant Can Am racer ever to run. In this case, it has nothing to do with how easy or hard either of these cars were to drive. The Porsche for that matter was downright scary to drive with so much power. The first 2 races Porsche was clearly still getting this new vehicle dialed in - after that, nothing could come close to it. McLaren and its drivers had a great run but it was all over when the Porsche and its 2 drivers hit the track. It's simple physics - 1,100 - 1,500 hp will blast 750-800 hp cars off the track all day long.

    • @savagetuner2404
      @savagetuner2404 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Peter Cavellini because Porsche was so goddamn rich they had no competition.

  • @bigblocklawyer
    @bigblocklawyer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The only logical progression was turbo chargers. That would have rivaled the Porsches. Seems like McLaren lost interest. I guess the founder dying had a lot to do with that.

  • @gh4121-b5n
    @gh4121-b5n 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Back when you actually Had to shift a gear

  • @StarFox85
    @StarFox85 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    mechanical down force👀

  • @DavidLucas-hf1cx
    @DavidLucas-hf1cx 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    He seems to have a hard time saying Chevrolet... I guess it's not very British... Ha

    • @kendaldk5634
      @kendaldk5634 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      David Lucas its french.

    • @RyTrapp0
      @RyTrapp0 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      And has little to do with the people that started/ran the company, it was almost like 'Jordan' shoes, they got Louis Chevrolet basically to lend his name to the company for some ownership in it(which didn't last long).

    • @savagetuner2404
      @savagetuner2404 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kendal DK it’s a joke

  • @Rottensteam
    @Rottensteam 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    First! Ha got em!

  • @petrolhead447
    @petrolhead447 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i was born after these golder era died =(
    please let me know how was the crowd back day

  • @TheTISEOMan
    @TheTISEOMan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing car, but it saddens me to know Mclaren left Can-am raped

  • @issabendeck1135
    @issabendeck1135 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    THERE IS NO RACE TRACK IN THE PLANET WHERE CHEVY WASENT INVOLVED , NO WONDER THEY WERE THEN SO SWAPPED AND STILL ARE - gm owns

    • @TheEsseboy
      @TheEsseboy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      WHY ARE YOU SCREAMING? DID YOU SHOOT TOO MANY FREEDOM GUNS? THEY ARE PRETTY LOUD! BETTER USE SOME EAR PROTECTION! MY FATHER ALWAYS TOLD ME NOT TO, BUT HE'S DEAF BY NOW.

    • @jimbosc
      @jimbosc 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      GM got OWNED by Porsche in the Can-Am series - TurboPanzer!!!

    • @Cory989
      @Cory989 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      N/A V8 vs 12 cylinder twin turbo, yeah that's the same thing.

    • @RyTrapp0
      @RyTrapp0 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jimbosc ...you mean a bunch of privateers got "owned" by a factory giant...

    • @ThePerpetualStudent
      @ThePerpetualStudent 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes they did well especially in the T70s but don't forget the iconic Ford 427

  • @Predator27007
    @Predator27007 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    And 9only weighs about 1500lbs. How funny.

  • @Nightstalker321
    @Nightstalker321 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    “A family size car engine per cylinder”
    Is he smoking crack?
    Never seen a family car with a 1000cc engine!!

    • @jjhpor
      @jjhpor 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's because you are so young. Many European cars through the 1960s were that size or smaller, Renault, Morris, Mini, Austin, MG, Fiat. These were all contemporaries to the Can-Am cars. Today, not so much, but engines are getting smaller.

  • @zacht9447
    @zacht9447 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Starting to seem like an american helped with the engine design haha Edit: Never mind it Just IS AN AMERICAN V8

  • @busman7228
    @busman7228 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    We don’t need that horrible music! Please take it off!!!