Mike has good taste in games. Just look at those behind him. Really miss him being on with Tom and Zee, they are so entertaining together. I thought this game looked beautiful and interesting, but it was quite expensive and wasn't sure about the gameplay. Curious to see other reviews. They are doing a second campaign May 2024.
I believe the price had to be revisited and raised to meet the actual costs of manufacturing, production, and delivery. I lament missing out on this during the first wave!
I almost backed this, but the price was a bit steep, but I'd certainly give it a try. I dig action point games when they're done well, and this sounds like it is here.
So many comments about the set up - as an owner, it’s not bad AT ALL. He showed the set-up to display the physical depth which is epic! The layers always get me excited. Thank you for an amazing review.
It’s not a very long set-up at all. I’ve played many, many Euro games with much longer set-ups. At the end of the game, you simply gather the tiles randomly, and you’re set for the next game.
@@Doujou yup basically. I remember the first time setting it up thinking "dang i gotta do all this?" but like Mike said it really wasn't that bad and kind of fun.
Looking at the set up seemed daunting. How long does set up and tear down take? Also, can you set up the game and not meta-game some knowledge about where something is? I realize you're not going to remember what every lower tile is, but at least one that your particular faction may want? I was concerned about the fiddly nature of the game, and the possibility for meta-game knowledge that I didn't back this one. It's a neat theme that's done in a clever way, and I'm sure digging and excavating feels super thematic. But I'd have to see more reviews to determine if this is for me.
I think if you played the game once you’d realize that the meta information you’re referring to is a non-issue. There are multiple tiles of every color scattered about. Once you excavate a tile the lower tile colors become visible to everyone. The top tiles with the powers should be laid out face down, so there’s no advance information there. I actually shot the review portion twice (the first attempt had technical issues) and in that first attempt I spent a few minutes talking about how the set-up and tear down is not bad at all. It’s less than almost any heavy Euro I’ve played. I forgot to mention it in the final version, and that’s a shame, because judging from the comments, that seems to be a concern. I don’t find it to be a negative at all. The insert is great, and after the initial set-up for the first game, set-up and tear down is actually pretty fast.
@@michaeldilisio557 thanks for the reply! I'll keep all that in mind should this ever come to retail and I feel like checking it out! I'm very picky with backing crowdfunding projects nowadays as I'm afraid of getting burned. Sometimes it's helped me avoid a dud, and sometimes I miss out on things like Endless Winter lol .
I tend to keep solo reviews as a separate thing. I always like to reserve the right to review the solo game specifically. I will tell you though that I think the solo game is very good.
Mike, Can you pick and choose the legacy like modules to add to random games? I probably wouldn’t play with the same group over and over to add the actual legacy-like elements as written. Or do you just simply play the base game each time?
I was having a very crazy time when this hit for pledging, and I missed it. Every video I see makes it more apparent that this one got away....for now.
This is a really interesting game, but my group got some rules wrong in our first playthrough. I lost out on a lot of points by hoarding artifacts for their special powers and ran out of time to send them to the city.
Nice Review. Too bad it's only for people that already have the game coming in (via crowdfunding). Apparently this game had a lot of issues with delivery (KS shows Apr 2022 as Est. delivery) and now it's not available. Maybe a reprint or Expansion KS will happen
Im surprised that setup is not a negative....I cant imagine how long it would take to shuffle and place all these tiles, especially by groups based on level. How long does it take to setup? its literally the only reason I cancelled my pledge on this and why I resold overboss despite liking the gameplay...I just cant stand the awful setup.
It’s not a very long set-up at all. I’ve played many, many Euro games with much longer set-ups. At the end of the game, you simply gather the tiles randomly, and you’re set for the next game.
It’s not a very long set-up at all. I’ve played many, many Euro games with much longer set-ups. At the end of the game, you simply gather the tiles randomly, and you’re set for the next game.
Mike has good taste in games. Just look at those behind him. Really miss him being on with Tom and Zee, they are so entertaining together.
I thought this game looked beautiful and interesting, but it was quite expensive and wasn't sure about the gameplay.
Curious to see other reviews. They are doing a second campaign May 2024.
I believe the price had to be revisited and raised to meet the actual costs of manufacturing, production, and delivery. I lament missing out on this during the first wave!
It's so funny you mentioned the games behind him. I was just admiring that for the first time this episode 😂
What a Review!
I am so honored by these comments and this Seal of Excellence!
Very moved. Thank you Mike! 🥰
I really like the look and the idea of the 4(+?) layer board that you dig down into!
Really cool how you dig through tiles and the action is on the back.
I almost backed this, but the price was a bit steep, but I'd certainly give it a try.
I dig action point games when they're done well, and this sounds like it is here.
Nice Tchaikovsky-inspired time lapse theme... :)
Was just about to comment on that myself. Don't know who does their music, but they deserve a raise.
Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairy x DT theme! Brilliantly done. ❄️
It's based on Waltz of the Flowers, actually. ;) perhaps this is Waltz of the Tiles.
Mike, you are extremely talented at reviewing board games. Good stuff.
Hoping to find this at retail in the near future!
Yes, I immediately thought of Tikal too!
Good review!
So many comments about the set up - as an owner, it’s not bad AT ALL. He showed the set-up to display the physical depth which is epic! The layers always get me excited. Thank you for an amazing review.
The Deluxe Ice is beautiful but I think I'll only be able to afford the Vanilla Ice ... 🤓
Nice.
😂
I’m sure it will be the same fun gamplay
I see what you did there 😂
Wish I’d seen /backed this one. The combination of new exploration mechanic, gorgeous artwork… looks amazing.
Well done review! Love this one too!
Any chance of seeing a playthrough of ICE on a DiLisio factor?
You never know!
My only complaint is the long set up, which is actually kind of fun :)
It’s not a very long set-up at all. I’ve played many, many Euro games with much longer set-ups. At the end of the game, you simply gather the tiles randomly, and you’re set for the next game.
So your only complaint… is an extended period of fun before you play the fun game, noted! 🧐 😂
@@Doujou yup basically. I remember the first time setting it up thinking "dang i gotta do all this?" but like Mike said it really wasn't that bad and kind of fun.
hahaha, love the classical dice tower theme (forget the name of the piece it's based on)
Waltz of the Flowers by Tchaikovsky, from The Nutcracker.
Just got a Deluxe version for $115 locally. Excited to play it.
I have now played it and am looking forward to playing again. Be sure to read the updated FAQ on BGG.
@@MerrillWhiteKalElwgy
Long live the midwest annex! Some would say it's the mecca of boardgame discourse...
Looking at the set up seemed daunting. How long does set up and tear down take? Also, can you set up the game and not meta-game some knowledge about where something is? I realize you're not going to remember what every lower tile is, but at least one that your particular faction may want?
I was concerned about the fiddly nature of the game, and the possibility for meta-game knowledge that I didn't back this one. It's a neat theme that's done in a clever way, and I'm sure digging and excavating feels super thematic. But I'd have to see more reviews to determine if this is for me.
I think if you played the game once you’d realize that the meta information you’re referring to is a non-issue. There are multiple tiles of every color scattered about. Once you excavate a tile the lower tile colors become visible to everyone. The top tiles with the powers should be laid out face down, so there’s no advance information there. I actually shot the review portion twice (the first attempt had technical issues) and in that first attempt I spent a few minutes talking about how the set-up and tear down is not bad at all. It’s less than almost any heavy Euro I’ve played. I forgot to mention it in the final version, and that’s a shame, because judging from the comments, that seems to be a concern. I don’t find it to be a negative at all. The insert is great, and after the initial set-up for the first game, set-up and tear down is actually pretty fast.
@@michaeldilisio557 thanks for the reply! I'll keep all that in mind should this ever come to retail and I feel like checking it out! I'm very picky with backing crowdfunding projects nowadays as I'm afraid of getting burned. Sometimes it's helped me avoid a dud, and sometimes I miss out on things like Endless Winter lol .
I was kind of surprised that the solo mode wasn’t mentioned at all; especially for a Delisio review.
I tend to keep solo reviews as a separate thing. I always like to reserve the right to review the solo game specifically. I will tell you though that I think the solo game is very good.
Mike, Can you pick and choose the legacy like modules to add to random games? I probably wouldn’t play with the same group over and over to add the actual legacy-like elements as written.
Or do you just simply play the base game each time?
I don’t see why not. The booklet explains what each tile does, so I would think you could just incorporate those rules into any of your games.
Wow that board is mind boggling. I’d never be able to play this game these days - the time I get to play these days is enough to set up the board 😂
Might I suggest uno? Lol
I like the Dance of the Legally Distinct Confectionary Fairy
I was having a very crazy time when this hit for pledging, and I missed it.
Every video I see makes it more apparent that this one got away....for now.
Where can one buy it?!
Where would one buy this game?
At 3:50 you played wrong. It’s written place a archeologist „OR“ your leader on a camp.
Not both together unless you use 2 points.
I want this real bad but unfortunately didn't pull the trigger when it was on crowdfunding
There will be a campaign for the second edition coming next may
How does this play solo?
Can’t wait for me deluxe to come in.
This is a really interesting game, but my group got some rules wrong in our first playthrough. I lost out on a lot of points by hoarding artifacts for their special powers and ran out of time to send them to the city.
Nice Review. Too bad it's only for people that already have the game coming in (via crowdfunding). Apparently this game had a lot of issues with delivery (KS shows Apr 2022 as Est. delivery) and now it's not available. Maybe a reprint or Expansion KS will happen
It’s planned for the first half of 2024 if I remember right.
@@SilenceAugeImSturmDo you have a link to share?
We launch the 2 Edition of the game next May... 😊
Thanks for taking the time to reply@@thiswayice. I'll have to keep an eye out
What did the rest of the dice tower team think of ice?
The board is really 4 loose pieces??
Im surprised that setup is not a negative....I cant imagine how long it would take to shuffle and place all these tiles, especially by groups based on level. How long does it take to setup? its literally the only reason I cancelled my pledge on this and why I resold overboss despite liking the gameplay...I just cant stand the awful setup.
It’s not a very long set-up at all. I’ve played many, many Euro games with much longer set-ups. At the end of the game, you simply gather the tiles randomly, and you’re set for the next game.
@@michaeldilisio557 awesome thanks for clarifying.
Same reason I ended up canceling my pledge. Game looked/looks cool, maybe I'll get it eventually.
I think the cover on the normal edition is far more beautiful….I think most people agree, considering it just won best cover.
Is that Major Internet Celebrity Mike Dilisio?
I almost backed this game.
Strategy? Bueller? I mean, you flip a tile and see what you get.
What an incredibly kind, polite, and well reasoned response. I’m assuming you’ve played the game several times to come to this conclusion?
If your set up requires a time-lapse (or 80s inspired action montage), it takes too long...
It’s not a very long set-up at all. I’ve played many, many Euro games with much longer set-ups. At the end of the game, you simply gather the tiles randomly, and you’re set for the next game.
Not really. Most videos just do a jump cut. A 5 minute setup would not be great content to watch, but is fine IRL.
Fine... I want an 80s inspired action montage OK? I said it. Happy now?
the set up takes way too long
i'm gonna pass just based on that