I'm sure it also totally didn't change the minds of anyone else on agreeing with that comment. Nope, it's not as if excessively oppressing the thoughts of people ever caused more dissent yea? Just use more police, that will teach those peasants to stay in their lane!
When you punish people for sharing their thoughts, then people will not share them. When you punish people for doing things you don't like, people will hide the things you don't like from view. When you punish the people from being different, you have your darkest moment of history.
If governments do that, historically the people finely fight back, recent history in this decade proves my statement. What the news coverage keeps from the public is the large number of governments officials that get assassinated during these uprisings
Germany is now subject to EU law which, technically, is 'Corpus Juris', which differs from the 'Habeas Corpus' applied in the US and, once upon a time, the UK. The difference is very simple, under habeas corpus you are considered innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. With Corpus Juris, you are guilty until you can prove your innocence. This is an abomination as it's almost impossible to prove you didn't do something- after all, there will be no evidence of you not doing it. The reality is, in the EU, it's possible to be incarcerated for an indefinite period, without even being told what it is you're accused of - which increases the difficulty level of proving innocence to a far higher level. It also relieves the principle of 'beyond a reasonable doubt', so if you were where the offence took place, without any witnesses, and somebody said it was you, you're screwed. The other big difference is that, in the US, you can do anything you wish unless it is prohibited by law. The EU had already adopted the principle that you cannot do anything unless it is permitted by law - the style the WEF is intent on forcing on the world. The UK has already started down this dreadful route by giving local authorities the right to penalize people without trial & your only recourse is to 'appeal', which is usually refused, following which you have to take them to court, which most people have neither time nor money for...
bidens actually giggly if he reads that. but we seen overuse of the FBI especally swat unit for what a phone call to the persons lawyer would result in the doc. but that dont get tv time
This case has caused quite a stir in Germany, because liking a post can be accidental or even be caused by a glitch, so I hope our German court systen will change that ruling
@@ehfoiwehfowjedioheoih4829 The translation doesn't make it justice, it is nothing new that comments such as these are illegal in Germany, and I don't give a damn about your First Amendment
It's outrageous. You can like things for a thousand different reasons even if you did it intentionally. It doesn't mean anything and even if it did it's SPEECH
I do nothing on facebook. I did not create one, I did not ever sign up, I never wanted anything to do with it. However, a spiteful neighbor created an account, used my picture from a local ad, and then spent two months pretending to be me with liking random stuff online. Then, spent two weeks making threats towards kids at the local school, resulting in a 2am visit from the local armored law enforcement detachment. Just out of the blue. Because he hated the fact I grew a hedge that blocked his dog from coming onto my lawn. I *despise* most social networks... but everything hinges on them now.
This is clear judicial overreach even here in Germany. It will not stand. The inconvenience of getting your stuff confiscated and locked up in evidence is like a punishment in itself, how to rectify that I have no Idea.
Germany does not know how to stop itself from going down the wrong track. Not that things are much better here in the United States, we're going down a pretty dark path as well, but at least there are multiple institutions here fighting each other for power. At least everyday Republicans aren't being raided in their homes like AFD. Yet.
Im German and just now read the article and looked up the ruling...if a second semester student would argue that ruling in a test it would be a clear failing mark followed ny the heartly meant advice to maybe think of alternatives to a career in law
I travelled around the world as a Marine, retired in 97, and I found lots of people found our "right to speak" extraordinary, everywhere outside the US. We tend to take it for granted, but there was nowhere foreign I found that one could easily with confidence, simply ignore the issue. The last place I was overseas was Bahrain, and free speech was not an option there.
Oh, the irony. And "they" wonder WHY nobody sheds a single tear with their constant abuse of power. Apparently, the world we live in now is that simply agreeing to a statement made by another (let alone the other's statement) is enough to warrant an intrusion on life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.
Facebook is your own identity... People put their photos, profile faces, names, birthdays, employment and place they live on it. You.must be a special kind of smart huh.
@@Naters1337 i am thinking more along the lines of how did the police know who hit the like button. i am not a fb user, but i know that here on YT and on Reddit, it is not public information which users click the thumbs up and upvote buttons. so in the case of this FB post, if all this guy did was click a thumbs up or like button, how did that identify him?
@@darrellcurrier5571 likes are public, anyone with a Facebook account can see who has clicked 'like' on a post. the trash Stasi cops in Germany probably have dozens of desk job staffers combing social media 24/7 to find the flimsiest justification to sic their dogs on anyone remotely perceptible as anti-state
This is why the American people, must fight to maintain what is left of our fundamental rights, along with the recovery of rights that have been minimized.
@@jpnewman1688 yes, i have voted the republican ticket for over 50 years, and it always amazes me how the Demonrat run states and cities keep going downhill and the people living in these cesspools continue to vote the same, and expect things to get better. I live in a swing state, but we almost always keep a Republican governor, so we manage to keep most of our rights, and a much better 2nd ammendment protection, has recently been achieved.
Not to Democrats: . The Democrats hitherto unknown 28th and 29th Amendments to U.S. Constitution: . + XXVIII Amendment + Democrats/Blacks/junkies Shall Be Allowed To Commit Any Crime/Murder Without Police Interference . + XXIX Amendment + Democrats/Blacks/junkies Shall Get Anything They Want Without Working For it / Contributing to Society .
@@protocol6 It was a perfectly meaningful tirade. Let me explain it to you. Suppose Marijuana is illegal in Germany. Now, suppose one wants to legalize it as it was done in a number of places. But there is no way to do this in Germany, because in order to legalize marijuana, you need to express its approval, but it is illegal to express approval of (illegal) marijuana in Germany. Classical Catch 22.
@@mxMik Umm, you missed the other person's far right maga republican racist rant which may have been deleted.It's been showing up intermittently for me. Clearly I know what my own original post was about.
@@jpnewman1688 You must be young. Anyone older knows that’s been a problem centuries longer than that! 🙄 In the days of snail mail it took longer for bad behavior to be exposed, and the media hid some things, but all the same personalities were seeking re-election as today. At least today, it’s harder for them to hide, despite the increased censorship.
I thumbs up things I disagree with all the time; if it’s funny enough, edgy enough, cringe enough, I might thumbs up not because i agree but I derived entertainment from it
Right, because thumbs up doesn't mean you agree. It means you liked the comment. Those are totally different concepts. I guess you will have to start commenting a disclaimer that reads : "I disagree with the comment, but I liked it." if you ever plan to be in Germany.
Same here. I disagree with people who burn the flag in protest. But I absolutely support their right to do so. So much so that I was considering burning one on my channel just to make the point.
My first duty station when I was a US Air Force officer was Wiesbaden, Germany. During my orientation, it was pointed out that by German law, a German citizen can take you to court for insulting them and the court can compel you to make a written apology.
What you said still applies. I'm working on a Dept of Defense contract in Stuttgart and even I know that addressing police using the German article "Du" is an insult and arrest-able by the Polizei. Last person I heard address a female officer was a young German guy who asked her "du bis eine Hure" when she told him to disappear from her face.
Germany's always been like that, the entire country's got a stick up it's ass. The Germans with a sense of humour always end up living in one of the neighbouring countries.
Some People really have no idea how precious this freedom of speech and choice is. But here we are at an era where this mindset is spreading like a wild fire. Even other countries who have similar freedom of speech and choice is going to this route.
And there are always people who will throw out freedom of speech "for the children" and the like.... that's also how you lose free speech. Scared conservatives.
It is for this reason that we initially expect administrators, citizens, courts, or police in Germany to restore a decent reputation to German administration, citizenry, courts, or police. But we could have a separate discussion about that premise.
If I've said it once, I'll say it again. Until they start holding judges fully accountable for garbage like this, the cops are going to do it. The judges rubber stamp this stuff. You can be absolutely guaranteed that if the judge's name was on that warrant as the suspect, they would have denied it before The ink was dry. But because that judge doesn't have any kind of personal interest or stake in what happens to the suspect, why not? It's not their stuff being stolen.
Personally, I prefer people to express their feelings in words, dance, song, and other artful forms of expression, rather than violence. Thumbs up from me, too.
This ain't new in American Schools. Kids get suspended all the time for just liking a photo a gun on FB. During the COVID pandemic, a kid even got suspended and the cops sent to his house when a teacher saw a Nerf Gun on Zoom
I remember that one, and I think Steve even made a video, or perhaps it was Nate? Anyway, it obviously questioned what role can school policy play, and where can the area in which school school policy ends be defended, and stuff like that.
Absolutely sick and disgusting that there are people who think they have a right to tell someone what they can or cannot say! These people are criminals and need to be dealt with swiftly!
On a less serious note, my favorite "accidental like" story was when some guy clicked "like" on an Amazon store page for a 55-gallon drum of personal lube because he thought it was funny. He then got bombarded with targeted advertisements for adult products.
@@BlackJesus8463 This story is over a decade old, and there used to be "like" buttons on Amazon, just as there used to be a thumbs-down button and comments on reviews. Now there's just a "helpful vote" and zero conversation.
The blue gang has chapters world wide. They were insulated and went to their friend the judge. Now a 'legal' search ensues and lives are effected. All because of ego. What was the circumstance of the officers death?
A Like could just mean "I acknowledge that I saw it." Meaning occurs not only in the mind of the clicker, but also in the mind of the reader. The two are not necessarily the same.
It could mean anything, it's ridiculous The bigger issue is that in free countries you're allowed to like when people say "terrible" things, and communicate that you like them, without government intervention or retaliation
Original comment could even be taken two ways, so hard to know what the liker thought... Also horrible is websites that only allow likes and no dislikes, so all kinds of craziness/evil can only be 'approved'...
This story is insane. But then again, we are in insane times. I'd never have thought I'd actively follow 3 different lawyers on YT (SL, LPL, LE) but here we are.
FYI: the shooting: 2 cops were cold bloodedly executed. Everyone was shocked, because usually we neither have shootings in Germany nor any significant violence against leo. The network assertion act is purely against free speech. Everyone warned that it's a bad law, and it is contested in court. It will get stuck down eventually because it's clearly unconstitutional, but that will take years. In the meantime Leo can hold anyone in "contempt of cop" arbitrarily based on whatever the person says online.
I don't think that this is unconstitutional in Germany. Much more likely that it will be reduced in scope by the usual processes that temper the application of some laws. Remember that if you indicated approval of a pro-Nazi post that this indeed should remain illegal.
@@tonycook7679 it is for sure unconstitutional, because it is too vague and encroaches on fundamental human rights without the required due diligence regarding the moral balancing of infringements to the subject. But we'll see. As usual the law will be stuck down in 6 years and then they just make a new one with a changed title and the game is reset. Sadly we're governed by criminals.
@@tonycook7679 There is a world of difference between inciting criminal acts against people or property and anyone's `pro nazi opinion that should remain illegal.' People are entitled to have opinions that may be foolish and incorrect, provided that these opinions don't harm anyone (i.e. cause them to lose housing, employment, safety, etc. which is different than offending or insulting). You can think any ethnic group or gender, etc. are whatever. You just can't commit prohibited acts based on your opinion. There is a difference between thoughts and speech and illegal acts.
My German friend, who moved to U.K. Long ago, once told me they made huge mistake with the wall. She said they should have put it all the way around. We were pretty drunk at the time... but very funny.
This is why our Constitutionally protected Rights are so important to maintain. From the 1st to the 2nd and on, every Human Right in the Bill of Rights is precious and central to Freedom.
So, have you noticed that the cake and poop emojis can get confused if you don't have your glasses on? (This could be a me problem, though.) I'm so afraid that someday I'm going to 🎶🎈💩🎁🎉 instead of 🎶🎈🎂🎁🎉, and the way things are going, end up in jail. 😂
If this is the result of only _liking the idea of "not having a second of silence",_ then what is going to be the punishment for those people who go even further and carry out that specific threat by actually not being silent?
@@nonionbeezness except it's in the US laws too. There's no clear definition of "hate speech". Right now, it's simply speech which others find offensive - and that's just as dangerous. Speech is often provocative or offensive.. but it's how progress happens. That's why the supreme courts have ruled (at least until all this social bullcrap) that offensive speech is allowed by the First Amendment.
@@bugs181 agreed. Though there is an acceptable ban on hate speech argument. The definition needs to be clear though and not just that one or a handful of persons find the speech advocating hate , that is motivating to action deemed a hate crime, or something along those lines. One can easily construct an example of hate speech , but in todays “burn the witch” environment I’m not going to post such a simple example other than you can create it by “ to all ” simply enough. That should be prohibited as nothing beneficial to society comes from that. While “the president is a “ absolutely should be protected. The problem that arises in the US (not talking about Germany where the rules are different entirely ) if an individual feels offended and a group agrees that magically offense is protected against in the constitution , which it isn’t. So “you stupid yelled at an individual. - bony a hate crime and should not be criminal or civil offense.
@@nonionbeezness I'm trying to follow along but I have to admit, reading your comment is confusing. If you're saying that speech that incites violence should be illegal, it already is. IMO, there's no way to define "hate speech" where all forms of discussion would be fairly represented; it really is that simple. It's a slippery slope. The first question you have to ask, is who gets to "decide" what hate speech is? Mob rule? Politicians? Nah; First Amendment says everything you need to know. All speech and ideas are protected. Inciting violence is NOT a form of a protected idea. It's a call to action. We already have laws. People being offended by the silliest things and forcing others to be in control of how something is perceived, is a dangerous proposition that easily leads to "thought policing". It's NOT my job to codify others, and it's certainly not my job to make others feel all warm and fuzzy when I speak. If my speech offends thee, don't listen. Quite simple.
In the US you might not get searched but you might get invesigated or put on a watch list. When you 👍 a post and they search your house their kinda reinforcing your actions.
"Hate speech" is an incredibly dangerous concept. As a former Marine, I am deeply offended by US flag burners, but I put my life on the line for their right to do so. While I find their expression of their opinions to be hateful, it is their right to offend me. Unfortunately, we do have those in our country that think we should punish those who don't agree with them and would classify it as punishable because it is "hateful". If we don't have the right to express our opinions when someone else disagrees or is offended, then there is no freedom at all. Any opinion worth expressing will be offensive to someone even if you are 100% correct and the offended person has no logical reason at all to disagree. If it is possible for one person to agree and someone else to disagree, it is in fact an expression of opinion.
In Australia about a year ago or so, people were being fined and/or arrested for merely making a post on FB or Twitter criticizing the government (no threats, just criticism). In the USA, we have the 1st Amendment, which is immediately trashed on by corporate media via suspensions, bans and shadow bans.
As an Australian I’m calling BS on your post. One woman was arrested for a Facebook post in which she was organising a protest during lockdown and therefore breaching the public health directive of the Victorian Government. It got a lot of attention because she was pregnant and filmed the arrest. Your comment is misleading and fear mongering.
@@jaywan5553 You sound like you don't support free speech, with the declaration of misleading and fear mongering in this guy's comment- as if such a declaration immediately ends the argument with you on top, when all it does is make you seem like a narc. But whatever. Anyways, here's an article from Human Rights Watch: "Australia: Harsh Police Response During COVID-19". (That's the title, look it up because youtube deletes comments with direct links in them) Its not exactly about free speech, but it does detail the police massively abusing their power and the government allowing them to do it. It also mentions the pregnant woman story.
When I lived in Europe (came back 3 years ago) I spoke quite a number of Germans - outside of Germany and in English - so they felt freer to express themselves than at "home" to a non-German, outside of Germany. I was told numerous times by many, that Germany has no real freedom of speech and have to be careful of what they say at home. As one put it succinctly: "We are an occupied country and we're not free to talk openly and truthfully - like you are in America". This case clearly reflects what they told me.
I was thinking about giving this video a "thumbs up", but I hesitate and am wondering if the government will raid me...Oh what the hell I'm going to live large and throw all caution to the wind and live the Devil may care renegade rebel life. Thumbs up👍
I gave this a thumbs 👍 up. This is the way the New World Order will be. In the E.U. you have privileges, not rights. The government decides what privileges you have.
We just celebrated Veteran"s Day here in America, but I want to give a shout out to every Veteran of Every Country who helped to defeat Germany in WWI and WWII.👍💪
God bless the men who stormed Normandy. Someday our kids or grandkids will have to do the same. Like we see in this video, Germany always persecutes its own people, and when they run out of Germans to persecute, they start looking at their neighbors and getting ideas. They're using the EU this time around. Someday in the coming century, it'll claim that a country (Poland or Hungary maybe) has some kind of unfixable problem, maybe they're "too right-wing for their own good" and the only choice is to launch a military invasion
Facebook can force likes and groups can tag you to any picture posted. It is scary that a person or group can tag pictures and I have to manually remove it myself and Facebook can't stop the tag from getting into search engines and associated pages.
@@53philp yeah, in certain countries they've forced Facebook to add privacy features, so they've literally already programmed and implemented them, but they don't want to give them to us because they make less money
Last week in France, a woman was arrested for calling French president Macron a " piece of garbage " online in some group chat, or commenting on an article. She was at home on her own time on her own computer.
In Deutschland, “du bist was du magst”. You are what you like (on social media). :-) The German Constitution (Grundgesetz or Basic Law) is nothing like the US Constitution in areas like free speech, or individual rights in general. It was largely written by the Western Allies for West Germany after WWII. Top priorities included De-Nazification. So protections for political speech are weak. Political parties like the NAZI’s are outright banned. And the threat of bans is always there. I found the web-site Steve mentioned but not the article. I was curious about the translation. One thing I find with Maschine Translations is that they default to bland words. There are many words or expressions that might be rendered as “creature” for example. As in English, some, in some contexts might be inflammatory or offensive. Google Translate likely won’t pick that up, or would avoid the more offensive rendering if it did. I’d be curious for a link to the actual article if someone has it.
The insane German justice system, they have a thing called "Beamten Beleidigung" (Insulting a government Official) example calling a Police Officer a Haubentaucher (Helmet Diver) makes the offender liable to a fine.L o L !
The Beamtenbeleidigung was a law in the Prussian Empire but nor more today. It's just a normal Insult. But insulting a gov official is crime that has a "public intrest". Thats why the sentences and punishments are harsher then calling your neighbor names.
@@MousePoint here it's part of redressing grievance and free speech. If cops are out there harassing and beating people or refusing them admittance to public areas without RAS, they deserve whatever "insults" we use on them. For example, "Pig" is a classic.
I haven't used FB in years but just started to browse it again on a tablet. I've noticed while scrolling it can easily like posts/ads without me wanting to because I have to drag the screen upwards. So now people have to fear accidental likes due to tech errors?
On a side note, I'm from Brazil, and I've heard of at least two cases here that involved online harassment and people who "liked" the original post harassing someone else also got into trouble in here. But not criminal trouble, more like sued for damages. No idea if they actually lost the lawsuit and had to pay anything though.
@@terrancecoard388 If you look at the same area from an earlier video, you should see no change there. So, Ben is where we've spotted him (pretty confident).
US is so similar to Russia, where political opponents can be jailed, their residences are searched, and you can be prosecuted for repost or like. Plus, conviction rates in federal courts are in 90% plus range, just like in the Putinland.
As a European strongly in favour of prosecuting stochastic terrorism and endangerment through malicious slander on social media, This level of government over reach and over reaction is preposterous and frankly dangerous to the point that the reaction by the local justices is more dangerous to the local community and it's democracy than everything they reacted to combined. And I hope the German federal courts overturns this case and censures the lower court heavily for their transgressions.
This happens here as well. Just NOT by Government, but by Social media platform Content Reviewers, and software algorithms. Freedom of expression, speech or whatever you call it,.. *IS BEING SUPPRESSED EVERYWHERE!*
You're not wrong, but mate, this is Germany. I don't know what any of us were expecting. They are *always* persecuting their own people and locking them up for bogus reasons. All the Nuremberg trials accomplished was making them persecute a different section of their population.
Freedom of expression or speech has is only iron clad right in the US. NO other country has it that can't have it writen away a whim of the gov which most people are to stupid to notice.
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽 Government Money should not be wasted on parades and funerals for government officials who are paid for the jobs they do. Heroes don’t get paychecks .
I can see the police roll call in the morning. "OK, we got to make 24 thumbs up raids today, and then we can squeeze in a few warnings for wrong clicks".
Have hunted pheasant for decades with a bazooka. Brings the bird down reliably. Admittedly, the meat is a scattered mess. But you can still find a few edible pieces. At 70, I have never been in trouble with the law, have never even received a traffic citation. But in this insane era, I wouldn't be surprised if I was swatted by the FBI...
Eurotrash likes to brag how great their country is, most of the countries in the union were crap holes before they got lifted in stature by the European union.
This is the most dishonest logic lol Texas is making journalism illegal, so i guess Europeans can say "look what's happening over there, we don't want to end up like them"
@@no_peace This is precisely why my statement has the best logic. You cannot support an argument with "they're doing it so we should too" or the common one these days "We need to do X because some european country is"
Be careful on which courts you call stupid. That is an arrest-able offense in Italy even if you make the comment from another country and are not an Italian citizen.
I'm sure this incident really changed that man's mind about the police
I'm sure it also totally didn't change the minds of anyone else on agreeing with that comment. Nope, it's not as if excessively oppressing the thoughts of people ever caused more dissent yea? Just use more police, that will teach those peasants to stay in their lane!
Very much better said than my rambling try above.
It seems pretty clear that the police were just upset by this person;'s opinion and were harassing him in retaliation.
@@johnquartarone6671 The beatings will continue until morale improves!
Possibly not, Germany has been the biggest brainwashing op in the world, labelled denazification.
If I get arrested for 👍 your video I hope you're able to recommend a great attorney
@@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket Calm down.
@@BlackJesus8463 When the soap box failed, the ballot box failed, and the jury box failed, the next box is the ammo box
If it could happen one place, and it already has, it can and will happen elsewhere.
@@Ginfidel You might not feel that way if you killed somebody.
@@BlackJesus8463 We've been calm for a long time now
Gotta love when a group immediately proves why the sentiment about them is growing.
careful you might want to clarify that or they will take all your stuff and drag you to court
We need to remember to add (in Minecraft) to the end of every questionable statement. lol @@honeydewholt2768
When you punish people for sharing their thoughts, then people will not share them. When you punish people for doing things you don't like, people will hide the things you don't like from view. When you punish the people from being different, you have your darkest moment of history.
A single thought like a single spark is all it takes to start a fire.
@@sincitygiggles13 true, but with out a spark we have no fire. Without fire we are inferior to cavemen, and live pointless lives.
Can you explain this to YT censors?
@@patricksanders858 I wish I could.
All I did was describe the holocaust. But people forget to learn from the past. Thus we are doomed to repeat it.
If governments do that, historically the people finely fight back, recent history in this decade proves my statement.
What the news coverage keeps from the public is the large number of governments officials that get assassinated during these uprisings
I'm shocked this happened considering Germany's long history of respect for individual liberty.
Are you forgetting about nazi Germany lol
Sarcasm I'm thinking 🤔
@@paulswickard7488 Historical fact. Anyone interested in some Ilse Koch lampshades?
Germany is now subject to EU law which, technically, is 'Corpus Juris', which differs from the 'Habeas Corpus' applied in the US and, once upon a time, the UK. The difference is very simple, under habeas corpus you are considered innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. With Corpus Juris, you are guilty until you can prove your innocence. This is an abomination as it's almost impossible to prove you didn't do something- after all, there will be no evidence of you not doing it. The reality is, in the EU, it's possible to be incarcerated for an indefinite period, without even being told what it is you're accused of - which increases the difficulty level of proving innocence to a far higher level. It also relieves the principle of 'beyond a reasonable doubt', so if you were where the offence took place, without any witnesses, and somebody said it was you, you're screwed. The other big difference is that, in the US, you can do anything you wish unless it is prohibited by law. The EU had already adopted the principle that you cannot do anything unless it is permitted by law - the style the WEF is intent on forcing on the world. The UK has already started down this dreadful route by giving local authorities the right to penalize people without trial & your only recourse is to 'appeal', which is usually refused, following which you have to take them to court, which most people have neither time nor money for...
@@johnmurphy9550 that is interesting, thanks for the info, maybe next world war we won't save Europe's ass.
This is a prime example of the thought police
it’s a legal system installed by gunpoint in 1945. if you can’t debate with somebody, it’s simply make it illegal for them to speak
@@knuthamsun6106 Dems ultimate goal
How the hell do the police even find out about that? Are they in everyone's computer?
@@Zurround Snitches.
@@crsv7armhl And you just had to bring up this nugget of wisdom didn't you?
US politicians are looking at this and inquiring on how they can implement it here.
bidens actually giggly if he reads that. but we seen overuse of the FBI especally swat unit for what a phone call to the persons lawyer would result in the doc. but that dont get tv time
What makes you think they haven't?
US polititon = Criminal
@@billh.1940 they are trying hard, congressional bipartisanship damn near
Us government/police would much different here in the USA if it were not the US Constitution always getting in the way...
This case has caused quite a stir in Germany, because liking a post can be accidental or even be caused by a glitch, so I hope our German court systen will change that ruling
I'd prefer that they changed that ruling because it's a stupid ruling.
The like isn’t the problem. Nothing said in the comment should be illegal.
I've noticed that as well. I just got back onto FB after years and noticed posts are being liked as I scrolled, presumably because I use a tablet.
@@ehfoiwehfowjedioheoih4829 The translation doesn't make it justice, it is nothing new that comments such as these are illegal in Germany, and I don't give a damn about your First Amendment
It's outrageous. You can like things for a thousand different reasons even if you did it intentionally. It doesn't mean anything and even if it did it's SPEECH
This is why we have to exercise our rights and stop surrendering them under governments pressure .
You would think Germans would have already learned what these kind of actions lead to.
I do nothing on facebook. I did not create one, I did not ever sign up, I never wanted anything to do with it. However, a spiteful neighbor created an account, used my picture from a local ad, and then spent two months pretending to be me with liking random stuff online. Then, spent two weeks making threats towards kids at the local school, resulting in a 2am visit from the local armored law enforcement detachment. Just out of the blue. Because he hated the fact I grew a hedge that blocked his dog from coming onto my lawn.
I *despise* most social networks... but everything hinges on them now.
That guy would not survive The Free Market.
The only thing that hinges on them is division.
Sounds like a good story for Reddit/entitled neighbors. I want to know the full story!
Sounds like felony identity theft and malicious defamation
@@BlackJesus8463 Karma is here! 😅😂
Individuals in the government need to bear serious consequences when they take part in violating a citizens rights.
(laughs thunderously in remembering the batmobile case )
Clearly, German citizens do not have the same rights that citizens of America do.
hows that going to happen captain?
Ya that is gonna happen.
it is up to us to make sure that happens.
This is clear judicial overreach even here in Germany. It will not stand. The inconvenience of getting your stuff confiscated and locked up in evidence is like a punishment in itself, how to rectify that I have no Idea.
No victim no crime. Ignore their call for morality when it creates victims where there were none.
Germany does not know how to stop itself from going down the wrong track. Not that things are much better here in the United States, we're going down a pretty dark path as well, but at least there are multiple institutions here fighting each other for power. At least everyday Republicans aren't being raided in their homes like AFD. Yet.
You and I know exactly how to rectify this. We all just have to pretend we don't support the solution.
Thought crime.
Don't let the enforcers to go home.
I'd rather be hit in the face with a book than use Facebook.
Im German and just now read the article and looked up the ruling...if a second semester student would argue that ruling in a test it would be a clear failing mark followed ny the heartly meant advice to maybe think of alternatives to a career in law
Can you send a link to it? I can't read German, and I was trying to find the article.
Yikes, just imagine what could've happened if he also subscribed and hit the bell icon!
They'd lock up the next three generations.
Ha!
He can be labeled a "terrorist" and be detained indefinitely without trial in 🇺🇸.. 💯😞
That's a caning.
You would crack your display.
Its nice to see that Germany hasn't changed much from the 40s
Most countries at least change tactics when they get defeated. Germany has only changed targets
Did Nazi that one coming...
@@johntracy72 🤣
It’s nice to know the libs have followed suit
Yeah buts let’s not forget they’ve tried it in the US .
I travelled around the world as a Marine, retired in 97, and I found lots of people found our "right to speak" extraordinary, everywhere outside the US. We tend to take it for granted, but there was nowhere foreign I found that one could easily with confidence, simply ignore the issue. The last place I was overseas was Bahrain, and free speech was not an option there.
U.S. military-backed dictatorships included
USA prolly also first country to outlaw religious terrorism mass murdering...
@@frankfacts6207 of course, they're our friends and allies. We need more of them to help keeping the worthless Fed fiat 💵 as 🌎 reserve currency.. 😂😂
@@jpnewman1688 I don't think anyone pays attention to sock accounts.
And you are definitely using a sock account.
Who are you hiding from?
@@kelf114 Lighten up, Francis.
Another case of enforcing feelings, not law.
Oh, the irony. And "they" wonder WHY nobody sheds a single tear with their constant abuse of power. Apparently, the world we live in now is that simply agreeing to a statement made by another (let alone the other's statement) is enough to warrant an intrusion on life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.
Facebook obviously gave the police his identity without a fight.
Facebook is your own identity... People put their photos, profile faces, names, birthdays, employment and place they live on it. You.must be a special kind of smart huh.
Facebook is a profitable stochastic terrorist organization
@@Naters1337 i am thinking more along the lines of how did the police know who hit the like button. i am not a fb user, but i know that here on YT and on Reddit, it is not public information which users click the thumbs up and upvote buttons.
so in the case of this FB post, if all this guy did was click a thumbs up or like button, how did that identify him?
@@darrellcurrier5571 likes are public, anyone with a Facebook account can see who has clicked 'like' on a post. the trash Stasi cops in Germany probably have dozens of desk job staffers combing social media 24/7 to find the flimsiest justification to sic their dogs on anyone remotely perceptible as anti-state
@@darrellcurrier5571 you can see who tapped like, there's a list of names
This is why the American people, must fight to maintain what is left of our fundamental rights, along with the recovery of rights that have been minimized.
Did you vote??
@@jpnewman1688 yes, i have voted the republican ticket for over 50 years, and it always amazes me how the Demonrat run states and cities keep going downhill and the people living in these cesspools continue to vote the same, and expect things to get better. I live in a swing state, but we almost always keep a Republican governor, so we manage to keep most of our rights, and a much better 2nd ammendment protection, has recently been achieved.
If you can't express approval of something illegal, does that mean it is impossible to ever legalize it?
Not to Democrats:
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The Democrats hitherto unknown 28th and 29th Amendments to U.S. Constitution:
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+ XXVIII Amendment +
Democrats/Blacks/junkies Shall Be Allowed
To Commit Any Crime/Murder
Without Police Interference
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+ XXIX Amendment +
Democrats/Blacks/junkies Shall Get Anything
They Want Without Working
For it / Contributing to Society
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@@BuzzLOLOL What, exactly, does this ignorant tirade have to do with a law in Germany?
@@protocol6 - YOU may be "ignorant" of it... but the rest of us know about it...
@@protocol6 It was a perfectly meaningful tirade. Let me explain it to you. Suppose Marijuana is illegal in Germany. Now, suppose one wants to legalize it as it was done in a number of places. But there is no way to do this in Germany, because in order to legalize marijuana, you need to express its approval, but it is illegal to express approval of (illegal) marijuana in Germany. Classical Catch 22.
@@mxMik Umm, you missed the other person's far right maga republican racist rant which may have been deleted.It's been showing up intermittently for me. Clearly I know what my own original post was about.
I was stationed in Germany twice, 10yrs apart. I've watched this country become less of a socialist country and more of a dictatorship.
These officers are only proving the criticism correct. Another bad time to live in Germany.
If we are limited to publishing only material that cannot be misunderstood, we’re in trouble.
🇺🇸 has been in trouble at least since 2001, thanks to the 🐑 🐑 that happily give power to narcissists/sociopaths/psychopaths to be their masters.. 💯😞
@@jpnewman1688 You must be young. Anyone older knows that’s been a problem centuries longer than that! 🙄
In the days of snail mail it took longer for bad behavior to be exposed, and the media hid some things, but all the same personalities were seeking re-election as today. At least today, it’s harder for them to hide, despite the increased censorship.
A lot of humour would be banned because it depends on the possibility of something having more than one possible meaning.
@@MissLibertarian you need to get your eyes and brain ✔.. 😂😂
@@cedriclynch say goodbye to double entendres.
I thumbs up things I disagree with all the time; if it’s funny enough, edgy enough, cringe enough, I might thumbs up not because i agree but I derived entertainment from it
Right, because thumbs up doesn't mean you agree. It means you liked the comment. Those are totally different concepts. I guess you will have to start commenting a disclaimer that reads : "I disagree with the comment, but I liked it." if you ever plan to be in Germany.
Or to support channel.
Same here. I disagree with people who burn the flag in protest. But I absolutely support their right to do so. So much so that I was considering burning one on my channel just to make the point.
My first duty station when I was a US Air Force officer was Wiesbaden, Germany. During my orientation, it was pointed out that by German law, a German citizen can take you to court for insulting them and the court can compel you to make a written apology.
What year was that? Seems like the world went woke overnight but I hear it was building for a long while.
What you said still applies. I'm working on a Dept of Defense contract in Stuttgart and even I know that addressing police using the German article "Du" is an insult and arrest-able by the Polizei. Last person I heard address a female officer was a young German guy who asked her "du bis eine Hure" when she told him to disappear from her face.
@@BlackJesus8463 if you look at "edgy" British comedy from 20 -30 years ago you will see the early days of it.
Germany's always been like that, the entire country's got a stick up it's ass. The Germans with a sense of humour always end up living in one of the neighbouring countries.
@@UsmanBello :O Did she respond with a baton to his face?
Fun Fact: This happens in the USA too, but the cops are smart enough to trump up bs charges unrelated to insulting them
Imagine not being able to speak Ill about your government because of fear of being prosecuted .
Some People really have no idea how precious this freedom of speech and choice is. But here we are at an era where this mindset is spreading like a wild fire.
Even other countries who have similar freedom of speech and choice is going to this route.
Welcome to 1984.. 💯😞
There really are no other first-world countries with freedom of speech. The US is the single stalwart against speech tyranny.
@@jpnewman1688 Wells didn't take it near far enough....
You're witnessing a coordinated collaborative orchestrated by WEF. It is no coincidence that so many countries are doing this at the same time.
And there are always people who will throw out freedom of speech "for the children" and the like.... that's also how you lose free speech. Scared conservatives.
When you can't heat your homes, you got to break into others for a facebook post. German humor is amazing.
They made their bed with Russia, then found it to be quite chilly.
A thumbs up click.
I guess you could say he did "nazi" that one coming.
It sounds like the police made the guys point, that thumbs up applies to all of them and the courts and germany as a whole.
Clearly they haven’t gotten very far beyond their Nazi history.
It is for this reason that we initially expect administrators, citizens, courts, or police in Germany to restore a decent reputation to German administration, citizenry, courts, or police. But we could have a separate discussion about that premise.
Yesssssss …goooooooood
I know of many people that use emojis like bookmarks to remember to update posts online.
My brother got charged for quoting a supreme court ruling. He was looking at LIFE! $11,000 in court!
This will endear the police to the public even more.
If I've said it once, I'll say it again. Until they start holding judges fully accountable for garbage like this, the cops are going to do it. The judges rubber stamp this stuff. You can be absolutely guaranteed that if the judge's name was on that warrant as the suspect, they would have denied it before The ink was dry. But because that judge doesn't have any kind of personal interest or stake in what happens to the suspect, why not? It's not their stuff being stolen.
Who are "they"?? 😂😂
@@jpnewman1688 Seriously? You can't figure that out??
Step aside. Let the grownups handle things.
@@kelf114 really?? Like those morons on 1/6?? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@jpnewman1688 Voters and responsible, vigilant, and informed citizens.
@@jpnewman1688 when someone referrs to "they", I just assume they mean NOT you or I or we, but the "other" - the EVIL, FILTHY other...
Personally, I prefer people to express their feelings in words, dance, song, and other artful forms of expression, rather than violence. Thumbs up from me, too.
FBI would like to know your location for the next raid!
Just curious. So what do you do when you run into someone who won't see reason and won't leave you be?
@@throwaway692 The scenario you're describing sounds like someone has fallen madly in love with you.
@@throwaway692 Easy. Ignoring them usually works really well. But if they’re using violence I use self-defense.
@@CodeZX I doubt they have the manpower. Besides, they have profilers and would see my anti violence post.
This ain't new in American Schools. Kids get suspended all the time for just liking a photo a gun on FB. During the COVID pandemic, a kid even got suspended and the cops sent to his house when a teacher saw a Nerf Gun on Zoom
100% tyranny the gas chambers are close to coming back.
I remember that one, and I think Steve even made a video, or perhaps it was Nate? Anyway, it obviously questioned what role can school policy play, and where can the area in which school school policy ends be defended, and stuff like that.
What the hell?
Who is Nate?
Cops are all terrorists and judges are gang leaders
Absolutely sick and disgusting that there are people who think they have a right to tell someone what they can or cannot say! These people are criminals and need to be dealt with swiftly!
Speech is not free in most of Europe, Canada, and Australia.
@@prodogtwodogman3857 The insane „freedom of speech“ system America uses isn’t used in basically anywhere else in the world.
Democrats do that
Exactly where we're heading if we don't protect our rights.
On a less serious note, my favorite "accidental like" story was when some guy clicked "like" on an Amazon store page for a 55-gallon drum of personal lube because he thought it was funny. He then got bombarded with targeted advertisements for adult products.
There's no like button on Amazon.
I posted that lube to my FB lol
@@BlackJesus8463 This story is over a decade old, and there used to be "like" buttons on Amazon, just as there used to be a thumbs-down button and comments on reviews. Now there's just a "helpful vote" and zero conversation.
@@TheHouseOfWaffles I Would love to see comments on some of the reviews I see.
@@russlehman2070 I think it's for filling small swimming pools lol
The blue gang has chapters world wide. They were insulated and went to their friend the judge. Now a 'legal' search ensues and lives are effected. All because of ego. What was the circumstance of the officers death?
They stoped a car in a traficstop. The guy shot the policeman and his trainee, because he was hunting illegally.
The two of them did not get to participate in the raid.
@@deathmetall82 Oh. I misread the question as "Consequences"
A Like could just mean "I acknowledge that I saw it." Meaning occurs not only in the mind of the clicker, but also in the mind of the reader. The two are not necessarily the same.
It could mean anything, it's ridiculous
The bigger issue is that in free countries you're allowed to like when people say "terrible" things, and communicate that you like them, without government intervention or retaliation
Original comment could even be taken two ways, so hard to know what the liker thought...
Also horrible is websites that only allow likes and no dislikes, so all kinds of craziness/evil can only be 'approved'...
How could anyone think government would turn tyrannical?🙄
I learned way back when I signed up for Facebook that the "like" button doesn't mean I agree with it. It is just an acknowledgement.
This sounds like getting into trouble for briefly chuckling at someone else's joke, even if a tasteless one.
How was the original comment a joke?
This story is insane. But then again, we are in insane times. I'd never have thought I'd actively follow 3 different lawyers on YT (SL, LPL, LE) but here we are.
Armed Attorneys and Runkle of the Bailey are good ones too.
@@nightshadefern162 Civil Rights Lawyer is good too, has Steve's dry humor.
I second the Civil Rights Lawyer as well as Andrew Fleisch (sp)
You ain't seen nothing yet. Buckle up since it's going to get a lot rougher for at least 100 more years.. 💯😂
Try BBB too
FYI: the shooting: 2 cops were cold bloodedly executed. Everyone was shocked, because usually we neither have shootings in Germany nor any significant violence against leo. The network assertion act is purely against free speech. Everyone warned that it's a bad law, and it is contested in court. It will get stuck down eventually because it's clearly unconstitutional, but that will take years. In the meantime Leo can hold anyone in "contempt of cop" arbitrarily based on whatever the person says online.
I don't think that this is unconstitutional in Germany. Much more likely that it will be reduced in scope by the usual processes that temper the application of some laws. Remember that if you indicated approval of a pro-Nazi post that this indeed should remain illegal.
@@tonycook7679 it is for sure unconstitutional, because it is too vague and encroaches on fundamental human rights without the required due diligence regarding the moral balancing of infringements to the subject.
But we'll see. As usual the law will be stuck down in 6 years and then they just make a new one with a changed title and the game is reset. Sadly we're governed by criminals.
That’s a shame because I only feel contemp for cops.
@@tonycook7679 There is a world of difference between inciting criminal acts against people or property and anyone's `pro nazi opinion that should remain illegal.' People are entitled to have opinions that may be foolish and incorrect, provided that these opinions don't harm anyone (i.e. cause them to lose housing, employment, safety, etc. which is different than offending or insulting). You can think any ethnic group or gender, etc. are whatever. You just can't commit prohibited acts based on your opinion. There is a difference between thoughts and speech and illegal acts.
@@raythornton8578 Funny, I feel contempt for misspelling.
Absolutely freaking ridiculous tyrants!
My German friend, who moved to U.K. Long ago, once told me they made huge mistake with the wall.
She said they should have put it all the way around.
We were pretty drunk at the time... but very funny.
East Germany ruined the West.
I just hit the like button... hold on... I think I hear the door bell.
Was it Miss Teen America?
Don't answer it!
Imagine living in a country where they didn’t learn about controlling speech and thought the first time!
This is why our Constitutionally protected Rights are so important to maintain. From the 1st to the 2nd and on, every Human Right in the Bill of Rights is precious and central to Freedom.
Cop: “You’re under arrest!”
Guy: “But why??”
Cop: “You used a poop emoji!”
Definitely public defecation
Well shit okay.
@@NIGHTSTALKER0069 No shit officer?
So, have you noticed that the cake and poop emojis can get confused if you don't have your glasses on? (This could be a me problem, though.) I'm so afraid that someday I'm going to 🎶🎈💩🎁🎉 instead of 🎶🎈🎂🎁🎉, and the way things are going, end up in jail. 😂
If this is the result of only _liking the idea of "not having a second of silence",_ then what is going to be the punishment for those people who go even further and carry out that specific threat by actually not being silent?
Neighbors are crazy everywhere. Don't fight for any of them!
It’s likely for insulting a civil servant or hate speech I suspect. German laws are different than US laws on these topics.
@@nonionbeezness except it's in the US laws too. There's no clear definition of "hate speech". Right now, it's simply speech which others find offensive - and that's just as dangerous. Speech is often provocative or offensive.. but it's how progress happens. That's why the supreme courts have ruled (at least until all this social bullcrap) that offensive speech is allowed by the First Amendment.
@@bugs181 agreed. Though there is an acceptable ban on hate speech argument. The definition needs to be clear though and not just that one or a handful of persons find the speech advocating hate , that is motivating to action deemed a hate crime, or something along those lines. One can easily construct an example of hate speech , but in todays “burn the witch” environment I’m not going to post such a simple example other than you can create it by “ to all ” simply enough. That should be prohibited as nothing beneficial to society comes from that. While “the president is a “ absolutely should be protected. The problem that arises in the US (not talking about Germany where the rules are different entirely ) if an individual feels offended and a group agrees that magically offense is protected against in the constitution , which it isn’t. So “you stupid yelled at an individual. - bony a hate crime and should not be criminal or civil offense.
@@nonionbeezness I'm trying to follow along but I have to admit, reading your comment is confusing. If you're saying that speech that incites violence should be illegal, it already is.
IMO, there's no way to define "hate speech" where all forms of discussion would be fairly represented; it really is that simple. It's a slippery slope. The first question you have to ask, is who gets to "decide" what hate speech is? Mob rule? Politicians?
Nah; First Amendment says everything you need to know. All speech and ideas are protected. Inciting violence is NOT a form of a protected idea. It's a call to action.
We already have laws. People being offended by the silliest things and forcing others to be in control of how something is perceived, is a dangerous proposition that easily leads to "thought policing". It's NOT my job to codify others, and it's certainly not my job to make others feel all warm and fuzzy when I speak. If my speech offends thee, don't listen. Quite simple.
In the US you might not get searched but you might get invesigated or put on a watch list. When you 👍 a post and they search your house their kinda reinforcing your actions.
I would think you're more likely to get harsher treatment from the American police, shot in your own home isn't uncommon is it.
Who isn't on a watch list lol
@@cypeman8037 if Germany had the same demographics as the US the same ammount of people would be shot.
What makes you belive that he was not on a watch list? and with information sharing, I will not be surprised if he is also in an American one.
@@cypeman8037 yeah. Hypothetically the American way is better but in practice we don't do any of the stuff we gloat about (like freedom or whatever)
When people say how bad America is, we need to point them at this story.
"Hate speech" is an incredibly dangerous concept. As a former Marine, I am deeply offended by US flag burners, but I put my life on the line for their right to do so. While I find their expression of their opinions to be hateful, it is their right to offend me. Unfortunately, we do have those in our country that think we should punish those who don't agree with them and would classify it as punishable because it is "hateful". If we don't have the right to express our opinions when someone else disagrees or is offended, then there is no freedom at all. Any opinion worth expressing will be offensive to someone even if you are 100% correct and the offended person has no logical reason at all to disagree. If it is possible for one person to agree and someone else to disagree, it is in fact an expression of opinion.
In Australia about a year ago or so, people were being fined and/or arrested for merely making a post on FB or Twitter criticizing the government (no threats, just criticism). In the USA, we have the 1st Amendment, which is immediately trashed on by corporate media via suspensions, bans and shadow bans.
Corporations who collude with the government!
Can you cite the article please.
As an Australian I’m calling BS on your post. One woman was arrested for a Facebook post in which she was organising a protest during lockdown and therefore breaching the public health directive of the Victorian Government. It got a lot of attention because she was pregnant and filmed the arrest. Your comment is misleading and fear mongering.
@@jaywan5553 You sound like you don't support free speech, with the declaration of misleading and fear mongering in this guy's comment- as if such a declaration immediately ends the argument with you on top, when all it does is make you seem like a narc. But whatever.
Anyways, here's an article from Human Rights Watch: "Australia: Harsh Police Response During COVID-19". (That's the title, look it up because youtube deletes comments with direct links in them) Its not exactly about free speech, but it does detail the police massively abusing their power and the government allowing them to do it. It also mentions the pregnant woman story.
@@orppranator5230 oh you’re one of those people. Never let the truth get in the way of a good story.
Oh, My ! I just gave a Like to someone's statement often our money would be better spent on Hit Men than taxes. Come back with a Warrant !
No warrant needed, now there are "red flag" laws. You will get no due process.
At some point, the 4th box will be all we have left.
You know there was an old German organization that did stuff like this. I think they were called the gestapo.
Yes, the communist government stazi were bad
Hitler was basically a Catholic Religious Terrorist...
@@BuzzLOLOL he wasn’t Catholic but sure bud.
@@samueldavila2156 *cough* gestapo *cough*
@@battleboat12 cough stazi kgb
When I was stationed in Germany many millennia ago, we were warned that you could get in trouble for insulting someone...
When I lived in Europe (came back 3 years ago) I spoke quite a number of Germans - outside of Germany and in English - so they felt freer to express themselves than at "home" to a non-German, outside of Germany.
I was told numerous times by many, that Germany has no real freedom of speech and have to be careful of what they say at home.
As one put it succinctly: "We are an occupied country and we're not free to talk openly and truthfully - like you are in America".
This case clearly reflects what they told me.
I was thinking about giving this video a "thumbs up", but I hesitate and am wondering if the government will raid me...Oh what the hell I'm going to live large and throw all caution to the wind and live the Devil may care renegade rebel life. Thumbs up👍
Id love to hear more cases from around the world. I've been studying law in south America independently and it's bizarre
I always leave a thumbs up. But I'm feeling a little hesitant for this particular video.
I gave this a thumbs 👍 up.
This is the way the New World Order will be. In the E.U. you have privileges, not rights. The government decides what privileges you have.
This is really concerning, especially coming from Germany...
We just celebrated Veteran"s Day here in America, but I want to give a shout out to every Veteran of Every Country who helped to defeat Germany in WWI and WWII.👍💪
God bless the men who stormed Normandy. Someday our kids or grandkids will have to do the same. Like we see in this video, Germany always persecutes its own people, and when they run out of Germans to persecute, they start looking at their neighbors and getting ideas. They're using the EU this time around. Someday in the coming century, it'll claim that a country (Poland or Hungary maybe) has some kind of unfixable problem, maybe they're "too right-wing for their own good" and the only choice is to launch a military invasion
Facebook can force likes and groups can tag you to any picture posted. It is scary that a person or group can tag pictures and I have to manually remove it myself and Facebook can't stop the tag from getting into search engines and associated pages.
It's not that Facebook CAN'T stop it, it's that they WON'T stop it
@@53philp yeah, in certain countries they've forced Facebook to add privacy features, so they've literally already programmed and implemented them, but they don't want to give them to us because they make less money
To us=to people in other countries
Tagging without one’s knowledge or consent is a violation of that person’s right to privacy.
I ALWAYS hit the thumbs up when you upload a episode before I even watch it.
In Germany, if you flip another driver the middle finger it's a citeable offense.
Last week in France, a woman was arrested for calling French president Macron a " piece of garbage " online in some group chat, or commenting on an article. She was at home on her own time on her own computer.
Yes, unbelievable. Crazy times.
In Deutschland, “du bist was du magst”. You are what you like (on social media). :-)
The German Constitution (Grundgesetz or Basic Law) is nothing like the US Constitution in areas like free speech, or individual rights in general. It was largely written by the Western Allies for West Germany after WWII. Top priorities included De-Nazification. So protections for political speech are weak. Political parties like the NAZI’s are outright banned. And the threat of bans is always there.
I found the web-site Steve mentioned but not the article. I was curious about the translation.
One thing I find with Maschine Translations is that they default to bland words. There are many words or expressions that might be rendered as “creature” for example. As in English, some, in some contexts might be inflammatory or offensive. Google Translate likely won’t pick that up, or would avoid the more offensive rendering if it did.
I’d be curious for a link to the actual article if someone has it.
The insane German justice system, they have a thing called "Beamten Beleidigung" (Insulting a government Official) example calling a Police Officer a Haubentaucher (Helmet Diver) makes the offender liable to a fine.L o L !
It was a compliment.
The Beamtenbeleidigung was a law in the Prussian Empire but nor more today.
It's just a normal Insult. But insulting a gov official is crime that has a "public intrest".
Thats why the sentences and punishments are harsher then calling your neighbor names.
@@MousePoint here it's part of redressing grievance and free speech. If cops are out there harassing and beating people or refusing them admittance to public areas without RAS, they deserve whatever "insults" we use on them. For example, "Pig" is a classic.
That sounds very Nazi'ish. You'd think they'd want to shy away from that association.
Part of me thinks that anyone with a sense of where this is going should get off of social media altogether.
Universal law: If you piss off someone who has more power than you, it is illegal, no matter the country.
As you can see, retaliatory behavior among police is not just an American thing...
I haven't used FB in years but just started to browse it again on a tablet. I've noticed while scrolling it can easily like posts/ads without me wanting to because I have to drag the screen upwards. So now people have to fear accidental likes due to tech errors?
if you drag to the right or left you will not be able to hit the like button, but its a valid question and there are other big brother implications
On a side note, I'm from Brazil, and I've heard of at least two cases here that involved online harassment and people who "liked" the original post harassing someone else also got into trouble in here.
But not criminal trouble, more like sued for damages. No idea if they actually lost the lawsuit and had to pay anything though.
Freedom of speech is actually rare in the world.
I was scared to give this the thumbs up.
Ben - Leaning against the mic just right of car 71.
Sharp eyes...
I see that but what about between the books Steve's right side near the dog figurine?
@@terrancecoard388 If you look at the same area from an earlier video, you should see no change there. So, Ben is where we've spotted him (pretty confident).
@@BenLeitch Thanks... I know you saw him too.
@@dennisberman4640 ok...everyone else agreed with you. I see it but it looks so ramrod straight I kept looking.
US is so similar to Russia, where political opponents can be jailed, their residences are searched, and you can be prosecuted for repost or like. Plus, conviction rates in federal courts are in 90% plus range, just like in the Putinland.
There isn't any difference but somehow we are the good guys.
As a European strongly in favour of prosecuting stochastic terrorism and endangerment through malicious slander on social media,
This level of government over reach and over reaction is preposterous and frankly dangerous to the point that the reaction by the local justices is more dangerous to the local community and it's democracy than everything they reacted to combined.
And I hope the German federal courts overturns this case and censures the lower court heavily for their transgressions.
Sounds like a clear 1st ammendment violation, but the law is just arbitrary and vindictive.
This happens here as well. Just NOT by Government, but by Social media platform Content Reviewers, and software algorithms. Freedom of expression, speech or whatever you call it,.. *IS BEING SUPPRESSED EVERYWHERE!*
Private companies are legally allowed to do that. It is when your government does it that it becomes censorship.
You're not wrong, but mate, this is Germany. I don't know what any of us were expecting. They are *always* persecuting their own people and locking them up for bogus reasons. All the Nuremberg trials accomplished was making them persecute a different section of their population.
Freedom of expression or speech has is only iron clad right in the US. NO other country has it that can't have it writen away a whim of the gov which most people are to stupid to notice.
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Your hysteria screams out that you voted for trump.
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Government Money should not be wasted on parades and funerals for government officials who are paid for the jobs they do.
Heroes don’t get paychecks .
"Spent" there, fixed it f....
Oh wait, yes, wasted is the correct word. . .
Leave it to the Germans to escalate a meaningless gesture into a national incident. You'd think they would learn.
I can see the police roll call in the morning. "OK, we got to make 24 thumbs up raids today, and then we can squeeze in a few warnings for wrong clicks".
Have hunted pheasant for decades with a bazooka. Brings the bird down reliably. Admittedly, the meat is a scattered mess. But you can still find a few edible pieces. At 70, I have never been in trouble with the law, have never even received a traffic citation. But in this insane era, I wouldn't be surprised if I was swatted by the FBI...
Good to see Germany's natzee issue is far behind them.
In the US, we are free to put our feet in our mouths and get ourselves sued, even though we do not go to jail. Are we really better off?
Reminder: The USA is the only country with a First Amendment. This crap has been happening in Britain for years
Remember this story the next time someone is comparing the US to european countries, saying that we should do what they are doing
"They breath air, over there. You shouldn't do that."
Eurotrash likes to brag how great their country is, most of the countries in the union were crap holes before they got lifted in stature by the European union.
Europe ia good in many ways but the US of America has many good things too, one of them is the Constitution for sure
This is the most dishonest logic lol
Texas is making journalism illegal, so i guess Europeans can say "look what's happening over there, we don't want to end up like them"
@@no_peace This is precisely why my statement has the best logic. You cannot support an argument with "they're doing it so we should too" or the common one these days "We need to do X because some european country is"
Hundo leaning against the microphone behind the winged Daytona. 2
Good eye. You and Dennis Berman...
this is why our freedom of speech is so damn important
good to see that there are courts in other countries that are as rabidly stupid as ours.....
And I was hoping the stupid ended here. . .
@@dragonhealer7588 that's where you went wrong. You had hope
Be careful on which courts you call stupid. That is an arrest-able offense in Italy even if you make the comment from another country and are not an Italian citizen.
@@Tim.Stotelmeyer lol
Europe is so much worse than the USA.
Damn,real Facebook Nazis..