@@NoLuckTrucking I love the fact that I’m in control of finding the loads that work for me and my schedule . I would like for Landstar to increase the percentage to the driver, but that will probably never happen. I don’t hate anything about Landstar. You can make great money if you’re self-motivated and understand how to run. Stay out of the dead zone areas like Florida and the Northeast.lol All in all, Landstar is a good company!!
@@truckershack8981 I've saved a great deal of money. Enough to have left over for repairs also. I'm at ground zero in being an O/op. I run hard all the time. How can I get a truck to work w Landstar? Please thanks in Advance.
@@NoLuckTrucking Truckers coming out of retirement to help with the driver shortage crisis need more sleep than before, but might not need to get home as much. Do you know who might be able to accommodate that?
That young lady is a keeper...good luck to you both. Trust me Prime won't be the only time you have to do this. The bean counters for all these companies always try squeezing the employees the first chance they get.
From a person who knows nothing about trucking looking g to get into after managing resteraunts for 20 years your channel and explanation of your experience is so informative it gives me so much reassurance to take the trucking leap....thanks you guys are wonderful.......
I’ve never looked back after going into trucking. Put in your dues at a training company and then the whole industry is open to you. Thanks for watching and supporting !
You should make an entire video on the "no forced dispatch" fallacy, I think it would be interesting and informative to understand precisely how they (prime) go about badgering and cajoling a lease operator to take a load and then wash their hands of it at the first sign of adversity. Good luck to you both!
Same situation here. I like moving at my own pace too and not have to be forced to take a load. They threatened to take the load selection off me. No forced freight is joke and I'm was making everybody aggravated about the PTA. I can't go backwards. So I linked with JJ Keller to apply for my own authority. Its $1200 for everything. Plus they're going stay in touch with me to make sure I understand my responsibilities. I recommend JJ Keller to anybody wanting to get their own authority. Good video.. I will definitely subscribe to your channels to watch your journey. Stay safe!
I used to drive for Prime even completed a lease. Glad you’re moving on growth is inevitable. You’re going to see a world of difference with that Cummins X15. You think you’ll be in that right lane, but you won’t. You’ll see what I mean. I use to run between 58-62 with Prime, now it’s hard to run below 70. The presence of God in me, blesses the presence of God in you.
Tried long haul for a minute and got into LTL, and never looked back! I could never understand driving a company vehicle and not get paid. Got into a good company, got paid for everything, hourly, overtime after 8 hrs, vacation pay, retirement, medical, ect. You breakdown you get paid, no matter what your on the clock! I got luck and got to run the Mojave Desert out in CA, wide open empty desert! Had the best route... Retired now for 3 years. Enjoy your next chapter in life-your a wonderful couple. God bless you both🙏.
I’ve got the X15 in the 22 KW T680 that prime just got I love it, the Jake is great! A lot of the problems we have with prime spec trucks is they get the lower power option engines. The paccar only has 405hp 1450 tq and the dd15 only has 410hp 1450 tq, this truck has 400hp 1850 tq
aaaaaah I love hearing that we're not the only 'team' that doesn't like to team. We did it for 3 months and HATED it. As odd as it may sound, we felt we never saw each other. You were either sleeping or driving and then the other was sleeping. Well, sleeping....... TRY to sleep, we felt tired all the time. We decided we did not want to live like that and became "super-single" as they called it in our company. Spent the next 12 years together there on the road. greetings from Canada. (but it was indeed often very hard to convince dispatch/fleet manager about our NEED to stop the truck to sleep and NOT NEED of all the "lots of money").
I'm a year later but that's the reason I left, 1 or 2 loads a pay period and when I complained "in a very nice way" I was basically put in the corner and sat for days before the next load as a 1099 Tanker. Great for some but if you're looking to leave a Mega after a year and not happy, take the leap and never look back. Awesome guys!
Let me give you some advice, I'm a retired driver, the last five or six years of driving I went to triaxle's. I really liked that, but I'll say stay local you can do roll off lots of options. OTR sucks nowadays.
I drove all my life you guys seem to me as truly good people take control of your driving life I never own a truck but I work for 2 no one company and I retired with good benefits and I would do it all over again and I hope you can say the same wen you become my age I will stay in touch with your channel lots of luck to the both of you
Knew that was where you were going, that allows you the opportunity to operate your truck and Super Single drive. Best of luck, Johnson’s Logic is 😊 from his videos….
That's like the same reason that trucker Brown said that he quit Prime. A lot of truck drivers are leaving Prime for the same reason because they feel like that is not being an owner operator or you do not have control over what load you want
I’ll be on it like a hawk lol I was aware of every penny that Prime owed us and it was a payout that they improperly paid us on that pushed us to leave.
@@NoLuckTrucking Sammy at 'Make Cents' channel is all over that. He also has a lot of good content on using the DAT board as well as other inhouse loads Landstar sets up with reliable drivers.
Hearing you talk about how Prime is having a hard time moving all of their booked freight is interesting. I've had my Class A for 10 years, have been using it to earn a living the whole time. Pretty much spotless MVR with zero commercial tickets. I've been trying to lease on with Prime for weeks now. It's the weirdest thing.. The recruiter I was assigned seemed completely disinterested in bringing me on board. After playing phone tag for a couple weeks.. I was finally able to get ahold of her, at which time she did her best to TALK ME OUT OF moving ahead with any sort of on-boarding protocol. What finally got me to move on with my search was when she told me that I'd still have to complete the 40k mi new CDL driver training, even though I have the better part of a decade and many many miles worth of experience. That sure is a strange way to move more freight. 🤔
Crimes business model is to use students and keep the revolving door spinning as fast as they can. Put them on a trainer's truck and run them as a team truck for cheap they know they can't leave for the first year no experience can't get hired anywhere else and they owe 4 grand for the training. They work you for cheap for a year or two and don't care if you quit. You leave Monday morning you're replaced by Monday afternoon. This mega carrier is key in keeping rates low in the industry. Their sales department has it easy booking loads for prime at under $2 a mile. Makes it hard for true owner op and small companies to compete they're all about cheap labor hauling cheap freight
I would not work for any company that treats a non-employee like an employee. Thats a red flag that shows they are just using you to avoid employee expenses. You are also a team operator so you should not have issues paying even an expensive lease like Prime. But for a solo it is not just a matter of hard work because it can go south real fast if you have any revenue issues with the amount of fixed costs you have there.
I believe in the near future lease driver's options will be phased out as they are doing in California the tax revenues for the state are giving the large trucking companies such as Prime a advantage toward tax obligations when truckers cannot afford to keep their equipment profitable. The California law makers passed a law that phases out lease owner operators period for that reason.
Good luck. Sometimes being good ain't enough, you gotta be lucky too. But if you eat that elephant one bite at a time, you still get dessert at the end.👍
Best of luck 🤞 on your landstar journey. You should name the finance / truck seller that would not help you .that’s a shame in this day and age that you cannot get the help you deserve.
Drove for Prime for several years, Robert Lowe does a lot of great things for the driver's,, would recommend Priime to anyone. That being said, Robert Lowe didn't become a billionaire by actually paying driver's a full 72% and trust me they never will pay that amount, they just get everyone to drink the kool-aid as far as that percentage goes, and not surprising to hear about Sales bullying the driver's.
its why i left roehl, i work hard af and set myself up for success and still they send me on dummy missions. i was done being a fool for pennies on a dollar.
Welcome to Landstar. Started in 2013 with Landstar and have not regretted one minute. This year I finally broke down and ordered a new W900L. Should be in around October or November. (Ordered it in May). Their are tons of opportunities as team drivers here at the star. I look forward to seeing more of your content. Have a blessed day. Tony
@@NoLuckTrucking A good friend of mine who initially trained me to drive used to drive for Prime. I asked him if he wanted to come over to Landstar and without hesitation he said yes. He has been here for almost a year now and would also take Landstar over Prime. Needless to say, my initial truck 07Pete387 started having some issues so I parked it. (Selling it this weekend.) I teamed with David H. for about a month. We made some good dough. I'll probably get back on the truck with him until my new truck gets in. Just finishing recovering from surgery now. Have another week to go still. Have you already gone to your orientation or do you have a date set?
Well both of you guys already know I got my CLP. Now comes the next part where I have to start practicing to get my actual CDL. I am anxious to get it. However, the company currently work for wants me to take days off without pay and practice on my own time with one of their drivers. They don’t want me to drive in the winter either and would want me to start driving in the coming spring. I really can’t wait that long if I’m being honest. I’ve tried applying for different carrier and denied my application because I have multiple employees that I’ve worked for in the past three years.
That seems weird that they would want you to be off the clock to train to drive their stuff. Keep trying to get on with a carrier if you want to go that route. Once you complete your first year you can practically go anywhere in the industry.
Good luck to both of you. At Land Star you will have much more control but you will be much more on your own when there is a problem with a load. I was at TMC 10 years as an o/o. I saw a lot of people leave to Land Star 50% came back 50% did not. seems it is hit or miss at L.S. I think people who want total control do well at L.S. In my time TMC opened a new company called Fortune express all O/O and at times we used brokers some were L.S. I found that 40% were ok and about 60% you had to use caution they seemed to be a bit shifty in their biss. And so it is in trucking.
Im gonna be honest i havent been with yall that long, but still am wanting to go towards my own authority and my stuff like that. And with yall telling me what landstar is like its making me want to make the switch as well. I just dont have the pretrip skills on par with fuel savings and stuff yet im still company. Im gonna keep watching yall from here on out and see if i cant figure out how to go towards my own like yall are. Good luck and stay safe out there
@@NoLuckTrucking im glad you made this video. I also hope you keep making more on your way to landstar with your new truck and how things are working and loadboards. The best part was you werent being biased and just being honest and putting out there what you didnt like and agree with
@@NoLuckTrucking i appreciate it too. Its not just videos its google searching too. Everytime i search for guides or guidance on getting started i cant find a whole lot of info. So by you telling your story and your journey its gonna help a lot of people
Good luck guys. Liz nailed it I think. Many truck drivers are broke and that allows companies to think they have more control over them. Having your money in order saves you stress and puts you in control and not the company and many companies can’t adjust to that. I turned down a load and was quickly informed that I could but if I didn’t want to run their plan why did they need me 😂
It got pretty weird at prime now that they’re overbooked on freight. They say they need drivers really bad in one breath, and in another they’re good with letting you leave. I’m sure the higher ups have no idea what’s actually going on.
@@NoLuckTrucking They'll let go of anyone who isn't a pushover. They want drivers who will take anything out of desperation. They're genuinely shocked when you tell them you can afford to park the truck. They're even more shocked when you actually do park the truck.
Do y'all have any idea how badly you're breaking Eric's heart at Driver Lineup? I'm positive he's crushed, not just about y'all leaving Prime, inc., but that you've revealed the things most already knew about the way they operate in the industry. I'm especially pleased that y'all didn't go "All Prime All the Time" as Eric does. It's misleading and ingenuine when all one has to do is follow a few cats that pull for Landstar to see that no dispatch load boards are a more free way to run your own operation. Hopefully, he'll see it soon before he ends up regretting it, but I doubt it. Just sayin. Congrats to y'all for seeing things for what they truly are. Keep spreading the real word! See ya down the road, and, as always, travel safely...
New to your channel, just curious… did you have a PACCAR engine in your Prime Inc Pete? Any issues and what kind of mileage did you get? I pull refrigerated, too. Thanks.
All vehicles on the road should be capable of doing the average posted speed limit. 70 mph. They say it's about economy but what it's really about is insurance. The cheapest insurance they can find is the 65 mph crap. I don't have to drive a left lane truck but I absolutely will not drive a 65 mph truck.
I worked at landstar and made a living but not much more , example of why I left. Landstar accepts an open market load for 1000 dollars and then puts it on their load board for 800 dollars and then takes 35% from the 800 so like I said you will make a profit but you would do much much better going to work for outfits that show you every broker load contract and not a made up company contract with some taken off the top of each load .
Being at 65mph when there is no mandated speed limit sucks too. Now that we are free to do what we feel is safe, it makes it easier to get out of the slow moving traffic from the governed trucks
I guarantee you the reasons why you left is why 99% leave. I've heard other people have all these same issues. Prime wants to run their lease guys like company guys. That defeats the whole purpose of leasing.
As far as i know you dont purchase thru prime you do it through the dealer in springfield i think its a rush truck center and u get no deals unless your credit is near perfect. tried to buy my FLD 120 when i finished my lease and was told the truck was sold 2wks before i was due to turn it in. it was sold back to rush. rush told me this not prime. prime never told me anything. untill i handed them back the keys and they tole me they keep the tire and maint fund no matter whats left in it unspent
I need a video that shows an owner operator finding and choosing their loads. That aspect is totally foreign to me. Is that something you could do in the future? I’m a new driver, a company driver with a mega carrier and looking to understand more about the lease/ owner operator side.
So are you buying the truck through Landstar or yourself. We currently run Cummins MX13 and MP 8 and the MX13 does better on mileage and performance we run mostly 450 hp. I suspect Prime has the torque set back like the speed best of luck to you guys I've bought my first truck in 1982 and have never had any regrets
That particular company that the Peterbilt dealership (Daimler financial) didn’t want to work with us, but there are a lot of lenders out there and we found one to work with us.
@@NoLuckTrucking I tried one of those random ass commercial lenders and they wanted 20% down (initially same guy told me 10%) and then 18% interest. Went down to my local bank branch that I never did business with before and they said nah we can do nothing down and 6% interest. This was on a used truck. Sooooo yeah.
I am interested in your journey, but it's all about the content. If it get too mundane you just won't get the views. I'm not an over the road trucker, in fact I'm retired, but I did drive professionally with a class a cdl for many years. I sympathize with you and your wife as a team, but I also understand the position of Prime, they just want drivers who get the job done with as little drama as possible. The costumer in the long run is more important, they want people who are hungry and are $ motivated. So it was just time for a parting of the ways. Looking forward to the next phase of your career.
My wife and I run team at Prime. I trained her, and after she got her CDL she hired on as a company driver, but drives for me. She gets full benefits, while I have the lease of the truck. I have the freedom to choose loads, and her benefits cover me as well as her. It's a great situation for married teams.
I just wish there was a little more transparency from Prime TH-camrs. You guys make it seem like everything is perfect at Prime, until one day it isn't and you leave. And only later find out all the shit that's been going on. I mean I'm not even in trucking yet and I know that Prime is only there for you to get your experience and get out before that Prime behemoth chews you out and kills all your drive to be a trucker. Good luck at Landstar, you would do great there, and you will be so much happier.
I would like to think we did a good job showing both sides, our situation went down hill really fast. One day it was good, and then we got some off the wall messages and called in and got some disrespectful conversation on the phone. It’s difficult for some because the problems are caused by one person at prime and not generally a reflection of the company entirely, or they don’t want to risk losing their job for blasting their company.
I left Prime in December of 2018 and went to Landstar. It will be 3 years at the end of December, no regrets!
What do you love the most about landstar, and what do you hate the most ?
@@NoLuckTrucking I love the fact that I’m in control of finding the loads that work for me and my schedule . I would like for Landstar to increase the percentage to the driver, but that will probably never happen.
I don’t hate anything about Landstar. You can make great money if you’re self-motivated and understand how to run. Stay out of the dead zone areas like Florida and the Northeast.lol All in all, Landstar is a good company!!
Thank you for the reply, appreciate it ! We are both excited to make the leap from the training wheels to more of a sink or swim environment
@@truckershack8981 I've saved a great deal of money. Enough to have left over for repairs also.
I'm at ground zero in being an O/op. I run hard all the time. How can I get a truck to work w Landstar? Please thanks in Advance.
@@NoLuckTrucking Truckers coming out of retirement to help with the driver shortage crisis need more sleep than before, but might not need to get home as much. Do you know who might be able to accommodate that?
That young lady is a keeper...good luck to you both. Trust me Prime won't be the only time you have to do this. The bean counters for all these companies always try squeezing the employees the first chance they get.
Great video guys! thanks for the mention it was great having you guys on the river!
From a person who knows nothing about trucking looking g to get into after managing resteraunts for 20 years your channel and explanation of your experience is so informative it gives me so much reassurance to take the trucking leap....thanks you guys are wonderful.......
I’ve never looked back after going into trucking. Put in your dues at a training company and then the whole industry is open to you. Thanks for watching and supporting !
You should make an entire video on the "no forced dispatch" fallacy, I think it would be interesting and informative to understand precisely how they (prime) go about badgering and cajoling a lease operator to take a load and then wash their hands of it at the first sign of adversity. Good luck to you both!
That video would hit home lol
No forced dispatch is a fallacy everywhere. They'll just tell you they don't have anything else or offer something equally shitty if not shittier.
@@dchawk81 Landstar is non forced non dispatched. I love it there.
@@pocolaokgmail Yeah that's pretty much the best way. It's the closest thing to having your own authority without having your own authority.
Same situation here. I like moving at my own pace too and not have to be forced to take a load. They threatened to take the load selection off me. No forced freight is joke and I'm was making everybody aggravated about the PTA. I can't go backwards. So I linked with JJ Keller to apply for my own authority. Its $1200 for everything. Plus they're going stay in touch with me to make sure I understand my responsibilities. I recommend JJ Keller to anybody wanting to get their own authority.
Good video.. I will definitely subscribe to your channels to watch your journey. Stay safe!
I used to drive for Prime even completed a lease. Glad you’re moving on growth is inevitable. You’re going to see a world of difference with that Cummins X15. You think you’ll be in that right lane, but you won’t. You’ll see what I mean. I use to run between 58-62 with Prime, now it’s hard to run below 70. The presence of God in me, blesses the presence of God in you.
We wish you both good luck, and many blessings to come thru your journey 🙏
New subscriber and looking forward seeing your progress and travels. Good luck and God bless..Be safe!
Good luck,have a good friend left prime after 6 years,went to landstar loves them
Peace & Blessings 🙌
Tried long haul for a minute and got into LTL, and never looked back! I could never understand driving a company vehicle and not get paid. Got into a good company, got paid for everything, hourly, overtime after 8 hrs, vacation pay, retirement, medical, ect. You breakdown you get paid, no matter what your on the clock! I got luck and got to run the Mojave Desert out in CA, wide open empty desert! Had the best route... Retired now for 3 years.
Enjoy your next chapter in life-your a wonderful couple.
God bless you both🙏.
I didn't drive, but rode with hubby... I had to come home and it's been hard being apart, because, like you, we enjoy being with each other.
Good luck dudes i just came back to prime lease in a pete after taking the winter off lol. I am excited to see your new vidoes and new pete.
Try to get your authority, you will be incontrol... do more thinking together ❤ stay safe when to get started...
Can’t wait to see your new tractor enjoy your content
I’ve got the X15 in the 22 KW T680 that prime just got I love it, the Jake is great! A lot of the problems we have with prime spec trucks is they get the lower power option engines. The paccar only has 405hp 1450 tq and the dd15 only has 410hp 1450 tq, this truck has 400hp 1850 tq
That’s wild that they got them with the x15 instead of the paccar.
Hold up prime has kenworths now? I will GLADLY order one if they do
@@GoldPhoenix we’re currently testing 10 KWs with the Cummins
Congratulations and awesome channel. T thanks for sharing your journey and best of luck on all future endeavors.
The speed is definitely the most frustrating thing for me
aaaaaah I love hearing that we're not the only 'team' that doesn't like to team. We did it for 3 months and HATED it. As odd as it may sound, we felt we never saw each other. You were either sleeping or driving and then the other was sleeping. Well, sleeping....... TRY to sleep, we felt tired all the time. We decided we did not want to live like that and became "super-single" as they called it in our company. Spent the next 12 years together there on the road. greetings from Canada. (but it was indeed often very hard to convince dispatch/fleet manager about our NEED to stop the truck to sleep and NOT NEED of all the "lots of money").
Best of luck to you both , next journey sounds really cool ..
I'm a year later but that's the reason I left, 1 or 2 loads a pay period and when I complained "in a very nice way" I was basically put in the corner and sat for days before the next load as a 1099 Tanker. Great for some but if you're looking to leave a Mega after a year and not happy, take the leap and never look back. Awesome guys!
Watching here in northern Ireland I'm enjoying the vids
That’s awesome ! Glad you enjoy them
Let me give you some advice, I'm a retired driver, the last five or six years of driving I went to triaxle's. I really liked that, but I'll say stay local you can do roll off lots of options. OTR sucks nowadays.
I drove all my life you guys seem to me as truly good people take control of your driving life I never own a truck but I work for 2 no one company and I retired with good benefits and I would do it all over again and I hope you can say the same wen you become my age I will stay in touch with your channel lots of luck to the both of you
Congratulations 🎉 🎊 Great video! Wishing you the best.
congrats! this is an exciting opportunity for both of you.
Knew that was where you were going, that allows you the opportunity to operate your truck and Super Single drive. Best of luck, Johnson’s Logic is 😊 from his videos….
That's like the same reason that trucker Brown said that he quit Prime. A lot of truck drivers are leaving Prime for the same reason because they feel like that is not being an owner operator or you do not have control over what load you want
I enjoy listening to the both of you your laid back and it work for you you don’t let the money run your life and I believe that the way it should be
Make sure you check your payouts. In the land star big Boi world some brokers don't pay out same day or even same week. Some take weeks.
I’ll be on it like a hawk lol I was aware of every penny that Prime owed us and it was a payout that they improperly paid us on that pushed us to leave.
@@NoLuckTrucking Sammy at 'Make Cents' channel is all over that. He also has a lot of good content on using the DAT board as well as other inhouse loads Landstar sets up with reliable drivers.
I have been watching is stuff very intently lately. Great guy and a great channel
I found your channel via Jason's channel, Just Trucking. (Edit) I'd say get with him about what it's like and what to do going independent
I love his channel, how did you find mine through his channel ?
Most companies claim most their drivers come back, when they actually never do.
I love how you don't sugar coat nothing:) Just say it like it is.I Just subscribed to your channel:)
Hearing you talk about how Prime is having a hard time moving all of their booked freight is interesting.
I've had my Class A for 10 years, have been using it to earn a living the whole time. Pretty much spotless MVR with zero commercial tickets.
I've been trying to lease on with Prime for weeks now. It's the weirdest thing.. The recruiter I was assigned seemed completely disinterested in bringing me on board. After playing phone tag for a couple weeks.. I was finally able to get ahold of her, at which time she did her best to TALK ME OUT OF moving ahead with any sort of on-boarding protocol. What finally got me to move on with my search was when she told me that I'd still have to complete the 40k mi new CDL driver training, even though I have the better part of a decade and many many miles worth of experience. That sure is a strange way to move more freight. 🤔
They’re in their own world lol they wouldn’t do the minimum to save an established team of almost 3 years. I can’t figure out a rhyme or reason.
@@NoLuckTrucking That too is very odd. Best of luck you two!
Crimes business model is to use students and keep the revolving door spinning as fast as they can. Put them on a trainer's truck and run them as a team truck for cheap they know they can't leave for the first year no experience can't get hired anywhere else and they owe 4 grand for the training. They work you for cheap for a year or two and don't care if you quit. You leave Monday morning you're replaced by Monday afternoon. This mega carrier is key in keeping rates low in the industry. Their sales department has it easy booking loads for prime at under $2 a mile. Makes it hard for true owner op and small companies to compete they're all about cheap labor hauling cheap freight
I’m a retired truck driver listen to your video twice so like I said before can’t wait wait for your first day at landstar
Thank you sir, appreciate the kind words
I love that y’all love each other! ❤️💯 Wish my bride could roll with me.
Mr Kinley in the house !
@@NoLuckTrucking now that I’m not dying of COVID, I’m having the chance to catch up on my “shows”.
I would not work for any company that treats a non-employee like an employee. Thats a red flag that shows they are just using you to avoid employee expenses. You are also a team operator so you should not have issues paying even an expensive lease like Prime. But for a solo it is not just a matter of hard work because it can go south real fast if you have any revenue issues with the amount of fixed costs you have there.
I believe in the near future lease driver's options will be phased out as they are doing in California the tax revenues for the state are giving the large trucking companies such as Prime a advantage toward tax obligations when truckers cannot afford to keep their equipment profitable. The California law makers passed a law that phases out lease owner operators period for that reason.
Great video
Good luck. Sometimes being good ain't enough, you gotta be lucky too. But if you eat that elephant one bite at a time, you still get dessert at the end.👍
I don't think it's legal to eat elephant. Nor is it dessert. 🤔🤷
Loved your vid its the first one I've watched so far I worked for prime 25 years ago didnt like them then either lol 😆
Best of luck 🤞 on your landstar journey. You should name the finance / truck seller that would not help you .that’s a shame in this day and age that you cannot get the help you deserve.
Being a beginning truck driver I'd rather go over to Schneider start at Prime
Drove for Prime for several years, Robert Lowe does a lot of great things for the driver's,, would recommend Priime to anyone. That being said, Robert Lowe didn't become a billionaire by actually paying driver's a full 72% and trust me they never will pay that amount, they just get everyone to drink the kool-aid as far as that percentage goes, and not surprising to hear about Sales bullying the driver's.
I always assumed they don't. Ive seen these prime drivers show their $$ per mile, and it doesn't look like 72% to me.
Good info
Looking in from the outside best of luck on What ever you do 2.5 years at prime an you give a open point of view Well done
My friend in Canada we are all govern at 65mph i got use to it no speeding ticket ever.
its why i left roehl, i work hard af and set myself up for success and still they send me on dummy missions. i was done being a fool for pennies on a dollar.
Thanks for your video. My wife and I are following your journey. What dealership did you get your new truck from?
I'm watching from uk
Nice ! Thank you
Welcome to Landstar. Started in 2013 with Landstar and have not regretted one minute. This year I finally broke down and ordered a new W900L. Should be in around October or November. (Ordered it in May).
Their are tons of opportunities as team drivers here at the star.
I look forward to seeing more of your content. Have a blessed day.
Tony
Thank you sir ! I’m excited to see what we can do at landstar
@@NoLuckTrucking A good friend of mine who initially trained me to drive used to drive for Prime. I asked him if he wanted to come over to Landstar and without hesitation he said yes.
He has been here for almost a year now and would also take Landstar over Prime.
Needless to say, my initial truck 07Pete387 started having some issues so I parked it. (Selling it this weekend.) I teamed with David H. for about a month.
We made some good dough. I'll probably get back on the truck with him until my new truck gets in.
Just finishing recovering from surgery now. Have another week to go still.
Have you already gone to your orientation or do you have a date set?
We just took the drug test today, so I should know in a few days when we start
@@NoLuckTrucking David said it took about a week to hear back from Landstar once he took his drug test.
Well both of you guys already know I got my CLP. Now comes the next part where I have to start practicing to get my actual CDL. I am anxious to get it. However, the company currently work for wants me to take days off without pay and practice on my own time with one of their drivers. They don’t want me to drive in the winter either and would want me to start driving in the coming spring. I really can’t wait that long if I’m being honest. I’ve tried applying for different carrier and denied my application because I have multiple employees that I’ve worked for in the past three years.
That seems weird that they would want you to be off the clock to train to drive their stuff. Keep trying to get on with a carrier if you want to go that route. Once you complete your first year you can practically go anywhere in the industry.
@@NoLuckTrucking very. Will keep you guys updated on what happens
@@NoLuckTrucking Also, before I forget. Congratulations on your 2022 Peterbilt. Definite looking forward to the next part of your adventure. 😊
i quit prime a few weeks ago got me a box truck job back home less stress an im happy
Good luck on your new venture with landstar! Hope it works out for you both.
Just wanted to drop by and say hi
You appear to be a smart couple! Hope things turn out Well Good Luck. 73
Awesome! 🥰
Good luck to both of you. At Land Star you will have much more control but you will be much more on your own when there is a problem with a load. I was at TMC 10 years as an o/o. I saw a lot of people leave to Land Star 50% came back 50% did not. seems it is hit or miss at L.S. I think people who want total control do well at L.S. In my time TMC opened a new company called Fortune express all O/O and at times we used brokers some were L.S. I found that 40% were ok and about 60% you had to use caution they seemed to be a bit shifty in their biss. And so it is in trucking.
We are going to go into it and try to learn as much about landstars operations as we can. We want to protect ourselves as much as we can
There is an Advance Fleet in Prime that maybe you could’ve tried. However, you would need to have your own Authority to apply.
I quit Prime. Never ever going back to them either. They manipulate with the best of them.
Im gonna be honest i havent been with yall that long, but still am wanting to go towards my own authority and my stuff like that. And with yall telling me what landstar is like its making me want to make the switch as well. I just dont have the pretrip skills on par with fuel savings and stuff yet im still company. Im gonna keep watching yall from here on out and see if i cant figure out how to go towards my own like yall are. Good luck and stay safe out there
That’s exactly what we wanted to show people. There isn’t a lot of info or videos on that transition
@@NoLuckTrucking im glad you made this video. I also hope you keep making more on your way to landstar with your new truck and how things are working and loadboards. The best part was you werent being biased and just being honest and putting out there what you didnt like and agree with
I just put it out there, good bad or otherwise. I appreciate the kind words and thank you for watching.
@@NoLuckTrucking i appreciate it too. Its not just videos its google searching too. Everytime i search for guides or guidance on getting started i cant find a whole lot of info. So by you telling your story and your journey its gonna help a lot of people
You're not the captain of your ship until you own your truck outright.
Prime? Sounds more like Slime to me.
Landstar is a good company. Cummins X15 excellent choice. Stay up with maintenance and all should be good.
Best of luck to you. What name is your channel going to be? Or are keeping NLT?
its going to stay the same, i was kidding because we have no truck currently and are doing no trucking. But that will change soon
Great Choice With LandStar
Good luck guys. Liz nailed it I think. Many truck drivers are broke and that allows companies to think they have more control over them. Having your money in order saves you stress and puts you in control and not the company and many companies can’t adjust to that.
I turned down a load and was quickly informed that I could but if I didn’t want to run their plan why did they need me 😂
It got pretty weird at prime now that they’re overbooked on freight. They say they need drivers really bad in one breath, and in another they’re good with letting you leave. I’m sure the higher ups have no idea what’s actually going on.
@@NoLuckTrucking They'll let go of anyone who isn't a pushover. They want drivers who will take anything out of desperation. They're genuinely shocked when you tell them you can afford to park the truck. They're even more shocked when you actually do park the truck.
Good deal on the Cummins. I get close to 8. 68mph. You'll love the landstar discounts compared to paying everything out of your own pocket
I’m curious to see how the new body style does with all of Peterbilt little improvements for fuel economy. We can’t wait to get rolling with landstar.
Also landstar did me wrong with bait and switch , but I sincerely wish you fair winds and dry roads
Do y'all have any idea how badly you're breaking Eric's heart at Driver Lineup? I'm positive he's crushed, not just about y'all leaving Prime, inc., but that you've revealed the things most already knew about the way they operate in the industry. I'm especially pleased that y'all didn't go "All Prime All the Time" as Eric does. It's misleading and ingenuine when all one has to do is follow a few cats that pull for Landstar to see that no dispatch load boards are a more free way to run your own operation. Hopefully, he'll see it soon before he ends up regretting it, but I doubt it. Just sayin. Congrats to y'all for seeing things for what they truly are. Keep spreading the real word! See ya down the road, and, as always, travel safely...
New to your channel, just curious… did you have a PACCAR engine in your Prime Inc Pete? Any issues and what kind of mileage did you get? I pull refrigerated, too. Thanks.
The prime truck did have a mx13, no real issues. I would typically get 8.5 mpg
@@NoLuckTrucking thanks much.
Good luck to you guys!
Where did you find a truck? I've been looking for a lease purchase or maybe even just a straight purchase. Wanting a 2022 peterbilt as well
I know a local company getting 8-9 mpg on their Peterbilts
From the UK here. Found your channel from @justtruckin good luck on what ever you do next.
Prime is a great Company idc what anyone say.
All vehicles on the road should be capable of doing the average posted speed limit. 70 mph. They say it's about economy but what it's really about is insurance. The cheapest insurance they can find is the 65 mph crap. I don't have to drive a left lane truck but I absolutely will not drive a 65 mph truck.
Want a great paying job with little miles try Baggett to lease to own or Bennett out of Joplin Mo. Both companies you will make good money.
Get a APU will help u alot for u OTR driver. Will save u alot of emissions issue n down time. Good luck
If you go to f2f you can use the spot market and you get 80%
I worked at landstar and made a living but not much more , example of why I left. Landstar accepts an open market load for 1000 dollars and then puts it on their load board for 800 dollars and then takes 35% from the 800 so like I said you will make a profit but you would do much much better going to work for outfits that show you every broker load contract and not a made up company contract with some taken off the top of each load .
Good luck
Over here in EUROPE our speed is limited to 56mph or 90kph for all big rig's I whould love to go 65mph in a big rig.
Being at 65mph when there is no mandated speed limit sucks too. Now that we are free to do what we feel is safe, it makes it easier to get out of the slow moving traffic from the governed trucks
Did you ever haul hazmat with prime? And if so, did it pay well?
No we didn’t, and it paid very poorly at prime. They added an extra $75 to what the load was paying.
@@NoLuckTrucking WOW that’s it. Okay thank you
I guarantee you the reasons why you left is why 99% leave. I've heard other people have all these same issues. Prime wants to run their lease guys like company guys. That defeats the whole purpose of leasing.
It was a good starting point for us at prime, but we just had to move on to keep doing better for ourselves
@@NoLuckTrucking who did you get your truck thru to go yo landstar
3,000 a week ain't shit I would be confused too esp if they have you under a a team normal solo driver drive more then that
What is the cost of The new Dealer Pete as opposed to purchasing thru Prime? Crunch us some numbers eh? Good luck at Landstar, you should do great.
As far as i know you dont purchase thru prime you do it through the dealer in springfield i think its a rush truck center and u get no deals unless your credit is near perfect. tried to buy my FLD 120 when i finished my lease and was told the truck was sold 2wks before i was due to turn it in. it was sold back to rush. rush told me this not prime. prime never told me anything. untill i handed them back the keys and they tole me they keep the tire and maint fund no matter whats left in it unspent
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I need a video that shows an owner operator finding and choosing their loads. That aspect is totally foreign to me. Is that something you could do in the future?
I’m a new driver, a company driver with a mega carrier and looking to understand more about the lease/ owner operator side.
Yea I need to figure out what landstar is ok with me showing but I do plan to show the load selection process
@@NoLuckTrucking no worries. I’m new, I’m sure there’s proprietary info. Just trying to learn as much before I start taking my next steps.
So are you buying the truck through Landstar or yourself. We currently run Cummins MX13 and MP 8 and the MX13 does better on mileage and performance we run mostly 450 hp. I suspect Prime has the torque set back like the speed best of luck to you guys I've bought my first truck in 1982 and have never had any regrets
Landstar doesn’t provide trucks or any type of financing. We purchased it outside of landstar.
@@NoLuckTrucking That's what i thought but i was confused when you said the bank didn't want to work with you even with 20% down thanks
That particular company that the Peterbilt dealership (Daimler financial) didn’t want to work with us, but there are a lot of lenders out there and we found one to work with us.
@@NoLuckTrucking I tried one of those random ass commercial lenders and they wanted 20% down (initially same guy told me 10%) and then 18% interest. Went down to my local bank branch that I never did business with before and they said nah we can do nothing down and 6% interest.
This was on a used truck.
Sooooo yeah.
No truck clucking
Good luck guys.
Three thousand miles is a single drivers mileage
I am interested in your journey, but it's all about the content. If it get too mundane you just won't get the views. I'm not an over the road trucker, in fact I'm retired, but I did drive professionally with a class a cdl for many years. I sympathize with you and your wife as a team, but I also understand the position of Prime, they just want drivers who get the job done with as little drama as possible. The costumer in the long run is more important, they want people who are hungry and are $ motivated. So it was just time for a parting of the ways.
Looking forward to the next phase of your career.
How did that work, where they let her stay company but drive as a lease team? That’s actually pretty cool.
My wife and I run team at Prime. I trained her, and after she got her CDL she hired on as a company driver, but drives for me. She gets full benefits, while I have the lease of the truck. I have the freedom to choose loads, and her benefits cover me as well as her. It's a great situation for married teams.
@@johnhoesch5875 no doubt! Thanks. Kinda shocking a company today would do stuff that helps people out (and them, yeah I know).
They have to offer something that others don't as a reason to bring New drivers to them
@@johnhoesch5875 they can’t be that desperate for new drivers, I can’t get a recruiter to return my calls.
Call the recruiter on Monday. They may only work Monday to Friday 9 to 5
What's the credit of the average truck driver you think?
According to the financing manager at the dealership, average credit that they process is high 600’s.
@@NoLuckTrucking Ouch... Yeah, that's not good.
65mph?!
Not the Prime of the late 80's early 90's.
Them boys lived in the left lane....especially if they was running a FedEx load.
Yea not anymore lol they run the right lane at 63-65mph
Contact LOAD ONE THEY'RE A GREAT COMPANY
if you want yo make it home even with out of hours use PC off USdot rules you could do it
Its a monkey 🐒 company..they don't do anything right. 🤘
I just wish there was a little more transparency from Prime TH-camrs. You guys make it seem like everything is perfect at Prime, until one day it isn't and you leave. And only later find out all the shit that's been going on. I mean I'm not even in trucking yet and I know that Prime is only there for you to get your experience and get out before that Prime behemoth chews you out and kills all your drive to be a trucker. Good luck at Landstar, you would do great there, and you will be so much happier.
I would like to think we did a good job showing both sides, our situation went down hill really fast. One day it was good, and then we got some off the wall messages and called in and got some disrespectful conversation on the phone. It’s difficult for some because the problems are caused by one person at prime and not generally a reflection of the company entirely, or they don’t want to risk losing their job for blasting their company.