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This video shows what worked to remove an over-tightened Toyota oil filter & do a complete oil change & how to reset the service engine light on a Prius V. The filter & process are common to many Toyotas including the 2010 - 2015 Prius, the Prius V, 2009 - 2016 Corolla, Lexus CT200h, Matrix, Scion xD & others. See Note at Bottom.
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VIDEO INDEX:
0:13 The Problem
0:20 Toyota's Warning
0:28 Tools That Failed
0:54 Filter Cap Wrench
1:19 Power impact Wrench
1:28 Location of Filter
1:54 Fit the Cap Wrench to the Filter Housing
2:26 It finally comes loose!
2:53 Finish Removing by Hand
2:58 How Old was that Filter
3:35 The Filter Housing Survived (barely)
3:50 Remove Old O-Ring
4:27 Install New Filter
5:04 Install New Oil
5:40 How To Reset Oil Service Light
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Note at Bottom: About the metal spring arm that's right in front of us all: It looks unusual, but it is in no way intended as a deterrent. Unless it's been altered; by design, it only puts enough pressure to prevent a loose filter from spinning off while driving. Toyota does not recommend adjusting or altering the spring arm for filter removal & they certainly don't recommend removing it & neither do I.
I have seen vehicles with the spring arm missing. You could remove it completely & it would not help in the removal of an over-torqued filter like the one in the video. While using the correct tool, this video clearly shows the spring arm easily allowing filter removal at 2:46 & several times later in the video without breaking or interfering with removal. At 2:51, the spring arm is still clearly as good as new & even allows me to finish removal by hand. I hope this note saves time for any viewers considering needlessly removing or bending the spring-arm. Thanks for watching and for sharing.
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I hate this design. It turned a 15 minute oil change into a 2 hour pain in the a$$ running back and forth to the parts store
Dude, with you there. Fuck. Love toyota, but dang this oil filter design is HORRIBLE
I know the pain 😭😭😭
Same here today 😭
I had to BREAK it. Nothing was working and the more my husband and i gurned it, the more it was cracking. It was 118 today so i gave up and went inside and thats when he broke it more. So guess who has to replace a new filter cap? Meeeeeee if i can get it off the housing 😤 my husband is taking it with him to his job since there are proper tools there
@@slinkyyy3 I tried to change the oil myself on my wife's 2015 gs350. It's used and we bought it in Feb. I even bought the tool on ebay ready to change it. It won't budge and I'm pretty stout. I need a lift to get a breaker bar on it so I guess I'm making a trip to a trusted mechanic friend.
Idk who Toyota was trying to protect these oil filters from 🙄🙄🙄 but they did their job on my car smh. My cap wrench won't even budge it. I'm so upset I'm drinking to calm my ass down 😂😂😂
Dang near an impossible oil change. I have a Highlander and spend two days trying to loosen the metal oil filter housing in order to change the filter -- all to no avail. I ended up having to take the car to a shop where, no kidding, it took two men with a 5-FOOT BREAKER BAR to loosen the filter housing. Even they had to work at it a long time. I like Toyotas, but that's the worst oil filter design ever. It's almost like Toyota made it intentionally difficult for the home mechanic to change the oil . . . .
Michael Patrick McClung: Thanks so much for the comment. That's the first time someone has commented that they had as much trouble with a metal one since most of these are plastic. Your experience just further proves that many shops out there are installing these with impact tools that leave them severely over-torqued in a matter of micro seconds. I hope that shops watching this and reading will learn that hand tight is plenty for these filters. Thanks again for the comment and thanks for watching.
It's not the design. It's the idiots that put it on. The torque specs are right on the oil filter cap. I guess the mechanics are illiterate? Maybe Bigfoot is doing oil changes in their shops? Or that guy with the muscles in that TV commercial where he says "I pick things up and put them down".
And yes, switching to metal is NOT the solution. An aluminum filter cap screwed into aluminum can experience galling which can be an even worse situation. What is galling?
"Galling is a form of wear caused by adhesion between sliding surfaces. When a material galls, some of it is pulled with the contacting surface, especially if there is a large amount of force compressing the surfaces together. Galling is caused by a combination of friction and adhesion between the surfaces, followed by slipping and tearing of crystal structure beneath the surface. This will generally leave some material stuck or even friction welded to the adjacent surface, whereas the galled material may appear gouged with balled-up or torn lumps of material stuck to its surface.
Galling is most commonly found in metal surfaces that are in sliding contact with each other. It is especially common where there is inadequate lubrication between the surfaces. However, certain metals will generally be more prone to galling, due to the atomic structure of their crystals. For example, aluminium is a metal that will gall very easily, whereas annealed (softened) steel is slightly more resistant to galling. Steel that is fully hardened is very resistant to galling"
I would stay away from the metal oil filter caps unless you're going to change your filter yourself and avoid extended change intervals in which case the plastic one should be just as suitable. Main thing is not to over-torque the thing.
Omg i just came inside so upset 😡 same thing im dealing with. I have a 2019 hiighlander. I'm seriously almost thinkin the dealership never changed the filter at all .
@@ScubaMoto my car has the plastic one - 1/2" torque wrench indicated it was tightened well in excess of 90 ft/lb. What kind of knuckle dragger torques a plastic housing like it's a damn lugnut
They are super easy if you do em but if a shop over tightens it your fucked
I got a Toyota and this was supposed to be my first oil change since I was told it’s one of the easiest things to start working on your car… almost gave up, thought I was weak AF 😂 then came a point where I NEEDED help and looked it up. Found this video and got it! Thank you 😂
Glad it helped and congrats on getting the job done.
I'm sure those idiots at the dealership are using impact tools to tighten the oil canister. I couldn't get mine off so I ran over to Quicky lube and asked if they would change it for. They couldn't get it off! So I took it to another quick change shop and they couldn't get it off. I'm buying an impact wrench like you used and once it's removed I'll torque it to something reasonable. Thanks for the video. I've been turning wrenches for 60 years. Never thought a damn oil filter would stop me!
Mike: Now that sounds familiar! They put them on with air tools to save 2.7 seconds but create a 90-minute project for the next filter change. Thanks for sharing the great comment.
Thank you so much for the video! I used my plug in 230ft. lb. impact wrench with the same toothed cap that you showed. It broke one tooth off but I stuck with it and after another 20 seconds or so, it finally loosened up. I wish I had seen you video sooner, but after 4 hours... voila!! Oil change complete :) You're da Man!
R Bebber: Congrats on a job well done! I'm glad the video helped out. And now that you're doing it yourself, it won't get over tightened again. Thanks for watching and for sharing.
It worked! After watching this video yesterday, I went out today to purchase a 24 mm socket and 1/2 inch impact adapter for my impact drill. Make sure you wear eye protection! It hammered away for about 5-8 seconds with no movement but a lot of metal fragments floating down. Then I noticed it slightly moving as in this video. Just a couple more one second shots and it could be removed by hand. You just saved me a $100 visit to the Toyota dealer.
Thanks for the great comment and congrats on getting the damn thing off! I must confess that I might have deleted a short segment of impacting for TH-cam attention span purposes. But I did include the part where the metal ears broke off the wrench while waiting for the filter housing to begin moving.
I have the 2010 which is same design but vertical and metal cap. Had to use cheater bar and a dead blow hammer. You bid helped. Thank you. No BS. THANK YOU 👍🏼
Nice video, well done. After breaking the tabs off with the stamped (cheapo) version of Toyota tool & and everything else in my tool box. Finally managed to get it off with a pipe wrench + 24" piece of pipe. Of course destroyed the cap in the process and replaced with aftermarket one. 30 minute oil change turned into 3 hour ordeal.
noname mcnoname: I tried it the other way around. My 2-foot cheater bar with a pipe slipped on it was just rocking the car so I decided to try impact. You can see in the video the toll it took, but it finally get the job done with a little patience. Such a brilliant filter housing design . . . I'm glad you finally got yours off. Thanks for watching and for the story.
Do not use aftermarket caps. The cap contains a calibrated spring. Any mishap in here can be catastrophic, as not enough oil can pass if it's too hard, or it won't filter, it it's too loose. Always replace the cap with an original one.
Had a 2013 Prius on a lease. At 40K, I decided to DIY the oil change. How hard could it be? LOL
Got the $25 cap wrench. Started working on the darned thing. Had visions of the plastic cap cracking. Since I live 25 miles from the dealer and had no way to get there, I gave up.
More recently, I did the 40K on my 2016 Prius. Did it at a friend's house closer to the dealer and with her car available if needed in case I had to buy a new cap.
Got lucky. Yes, the cap...and drain plug...were on too tight but I was able to get both off with just the cap wrench and 3/8" drive.
To borrow a line from Seinfeld, this filter design is "ridickerous". They fixed something that wasn't broken. Spin on filters worked fine for 50 years.
Thanks for posting the video. When you try and tell someone how hard it was to change your oil, they find it hard to believe. Now I can just share this video and say "See"?
Mike Rafferty: Thanks for sharing the great story and congrats on a successful job. Welcome to the "Super Strange Filter Wrench Owners Club".
Thanks for posting. Have done my daughters Scion for the past few years, never a problem. Today, PITA!. Frozen on. And I "didn't" over-tighten it last time. Had to make an extra trip to the zone, and pick up that wrench. "Another" tool for the collection. :(
joe quillun: Thanks for sharing. You won't be sorry that you now have that wrench. It makes the job so much easier even if the filter isn't stuck. Thanks for watching.
My first three changes on our RAV4 were free at the dealer. When I did my first one I stopped just short of using the air impact. I used a cap wrench by MotoveXTools, which fit perfectly. I used the 27mm socket and an 18" breaker bar and had to brace myself with my feet on the back of the front tire to break it loose. It was all I could do to pull hard enough, and when it came loose it popped like I'd broken something. You'd think a dealer would know not to torque them like that. It's still a pain. bit with the right tool it's no longer the ordeal it was. I just bought a Tundra with the same cap, though. I dread doing it the first time.
Ed Cones: Great job getting it off by yourself. Thanks for the comment.
You think the dealer mechanic was trying to create an incentive for you to bring it back for it's oil change?
I know exactly what you mean. Toyota had no business designing a filter system like that in the first place. A lot of the time a young JOCK mechanic will NOT use a torque wrench and just use their arm strength which will over tighten it quite a bit.
This worked even with the teeth on the housing broken and all other methods tried. Thank you!
francescaj7: I'm glad the video helped. Thanks for the comment and for sharing.
omg thank you... I literally had a client today with this issue and almost broke his filter. I have a replacement one but god damn its so stuck on there... I used all the exact tools you did with no avail... I just ordered that oil filter socket just now thanks !
You saved my day. Before watching your video, I tried my impact drive, no luck. I didn't try long enough because I worried I might break the filter cap. After watching your video, I got more confidence to hold about 20 seconds and this thing finally came off. The so call technicians at dealership are not doing the right thing. Their over tightening way will cause extra stress that might lead to cracking. I am glad I am taking this over from now.
Songtao Qiu: Congratulations on a job well done and on taking over the oil/filter changes. It will be nice knowing it's getting done right. Thanks for watching and for the great comment.
And you saved mine , i watched the video but didn't pay attention to the part where you had to wait a little longer , it was until I read your comment and went back out and it worked . Thank you and thank you @scubamoto
The Toyota designer should be ashamed. What’s wrong with the old spin old filter ?
Apparently more eco friendly (less material), less weight, and cheaper for production. They're not so bad if the previous tech didn't over tighten them, but I hate the stupid design. Spin ons are always better!
They need to hire an design ingenier like me. But young People are more Stupid thrue The years...
don't take it to the mechanic or tell them not to over tighten it. i was told by the mechanic that they always tighten it real good when just enough will do. when i was doing it myself, i never had any problem with the so-called bad design until i got lazy and had the mechanic change oil.
@@whatever5575 Same thing happened to me. I've noticed that even good mechanics tend to get sloppy with the so-called simple jobs.
Its not as environmentally friendly 🚯
This was very helpful! I lucked out and a little more arm on the "lever" allowed me to get it loose.
Shane Hilt: : That's great. And since you're doing it yourself, it will never be over-tightened. Thanks for watching and for the comment.
I'm about to change the oil in my 2019 Prius, this vid really helps, the instant reply was epic!
Mike Subocz: I'm glad you liked the video. Thanks for the comment and for sharing.
I just gave up on mine and had drained the oil before I tried the filter. I don't have one of these wrenches so now after changing it with $20 of oil I have to take it to an oil change place to get it all done again so they can deal with the filter. That's who made it stuck to start with, and this apparently is going to be an endless cycle on this car.
With all the great engineering Toyota put into this car, someone's always gotta come along to screw something up.
I went threw that pain in the ass too!!! First oil change I was to perform on my 17 tundra , and my torque gun couldn’t get it off !! I actually had to break it off and hammer the edges with a chisel until it loosened up!!! Replaced it with a metal one instead of plastic. It’s true they over torque them at the dealer.
Jose Cazarez: That sounds like a serious tough PITA. I'm glad you were able to get it off. Thanks for watching and sharing the story.
SAME!! It took about a few hours and we ended up breaking the filter cap.
Thank you so much! After failed breaker bar attempts the 1000 ft lb impact wrench did the trick! Bravo!
I'm glad it helped and congratulations on a job well done! Thanks for the comment.
I needed a pipe on my ratchet to get the extra torque needed to loosen the filter on my 16 T4R. I think some places use an impact gun to tighten them.
Fantastic video!!! Great editing! All the shots & commentary flow!!!
Chicken Raider.: Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for the great comment and for sharing.
I had trouble with filter cap, finally got Toyota tool that was still extremely difficult..
your tool had teeth - that’s my value from your video. Thx
Ernie Tonski: I'm glad the video helped you find the right tool. Congrats on a job well done. Thanks for watching and for sharing your success.
Thanks for posting, I’ve got this same problem!!!!
My buddy helped me with my last oil change on my 2011 Toyota Rav 4, and it took 2 hours to change it, most of it was spending getting the filter off, had to do an extra trip to Autozone to pick up the wrench, never going to a dealership again for an oil change, dealerships always over torque them
I appreciate your help. The idiots at the dealer over-torque during the 10K service of my Highlander. Crazy situation as I also own a Tacoma as well and never had such of trouble trying to change the oil filter. Sure thing the 27MM socket and my newly purchase power wrench for my wheels and it came off with a couple of attempts. Thank you!
You're welcome. I'm glad it helped and congrats on a job well done! Thanks for the comment.
Thank you! Your video was the only video that help me with my oil filter. Showed everything with detail.
You're welcome, I'm glad it helped. Congrats on getting the job done!
Thanks for the video and tips. Like many other's, I couldn't budge the filter cap. Got the proper cap wrench with the extra teeth on the side (I had one that only had the polygonal cap part which was not working). My impact driver did not have enough torque to loosen it, but a 1/2" breaker bar with manual impact from a rubber mallet was enough to break it free. Only minor problem is now the cap wrench won't come off the filter cap. Hopefully it will just stay there permanently and not fall off while driving.
fzumrk2000: Thanks for sharing your experience and congratulations on getting one of these off when it's been over-torqued. The wrench getting stuck on the filter cap is super common. Your impact wrench will be strong enough to get it off. With the filter off the vehicle, set the impact wrench as if tightening the filter (clockwise) and give it a short burst. That usually gets the wrench off quickly. Even if it's on the car, the same method will release it with a burst short enough NOT to torque the filter on at 300 ft-lbs. Then you can easily reset the proper tightness and you're done. I hope that helps.
Last winter as a birthday present my daughter took my car to a quick oil change place and had the oil changed! Fast forward to July 2023 and me trying to get the oil filter housing lose to do the next oil change! I used the Toyota tool an extension, a power bar and had to use my foot to push the power bar to remove the cap. I ended up bending the extension, but i got the SOB lose. I have owned my Camry 10 years and never let anyone else change the oil, because i know that oil cap design is garbage. I wish Toyota had just stuck with the regular SPIN ON filter. If something had worked well for over 60 years DONT "F" with it!
Thanks for sharing a great story and congrats on getting one more over-torqued filter off. Her heart was in the right place. Maybe next time to impress you, she can do it herself watching this: th-cam.com/video/kWWUlyoWFsM/w-d-xo.html Thanks again for sharing.
Nicely done; plus, short and sweet! Thanks 2012 Prius V owner
Dave: I'm glad you liked it! Thanks for the comment.
Worked at Toyota for 6 years and all the techs over torque these filters. I’ve always hand tighten these.
Kou Lee: I've seen a few techs chime in here with comments who appear to know better. But I am surprised at how common it is to over tighten these with impact tools when installing them. Thanks for watching and for the comment.
@@ScubaMoto If you want a "job done right" do it yourself. Thanks for a great vid!!
Steve Maurer: Well said! Thanks for watching and for the great comment.
I agree they do overtorque everything.
That's me right now, tried running hot, cold, rag in cup and now im grabbing an extended handle after gouging my palm on the short one
THANKS A LOT FOR A GREAT VIDEO, I HAVE SAME PROBLEM TO REPLACE MY OIL FILTER.
GREAT VIDEO , AGAIN THANKS AND GOD BLESS. MIKE
T O: You're welcome! I'm glad you liked the video. Thanks for the comment.
I have a 2014 Camry and it has the same filter that is mounted vertically versus horizontal. Someone really over tightened it. Thank you!
Michael Ackerman: I'm glad the video helped. Thanks for the comment and for sharing.
I hand tighten plus an 1/8th. Never a problem for more than a decade of oil changes on a Corolla and a Camry.
Had the same problem on my Tacoma. From my last dealer freebie. Even with the engine warm. I had to bring the engine up to operating temp, and still had to reef on it to get it off. It''ll be interesting to see if it comes off easy next time.
Had a offer from the Toyota for 3 free oil changes. No way was I going to let those retards touch my car and have them put the cap on and torque it to 2,000,000 ft/lbs. Even with it free I wasn't going to drive 2 hours each way. Want to get it done right then I will do it myself.
Can't thank you enough, glad I found your channel. I was about to throw in the towel after multiple different attempts. Great video, followed your instructions & it was easy peasy, Read your page title, had to subscribe. Be Blessed! ✌❤👽
Glad I could help. Congrats on a good repair and thanks for the sub!
BEST VIDEO IVE EVER WATCHED IN MY LIFE. I LOVE YOU.😁
Thank you goat ! Literally just did this at work saved customer from having to purchase new housing
Glad I could help. Thanks for sharing.
I watched this video before doing the oil change, so I was mentally prepared for this problem. It was torqued so tight my kohl’s electric impact couldn’t move it. I had to go and use an air impact which made short work of it. Toyota techs did not follow the torque spec.
CG Eucare: Sound familiar. Thanks for watching and for sharing your success.
Same here, I broke one of those filter removers trying to get it off my Corolla, thank you.
Great video, thanks for helping all of us!
Glad it helped. Thanks for sharing.
Stealership overtightened mine on a rav4 2014 so i had to get this wrench. It is true that it tightens itself.
Quentyn73 same 2014 rav4. Omg did I have a time trying to get if off
A butane heat flame on the silver coloured filter housing worked for me.
You saved the day! We have a new hero. Thank you so much!
You're welcome. Glad I could help.
thanks for tips! Much appreciated.
I'm glad it helped. Thanks for watching and for the comment.
Thanks for the advice. You saved me a lot of frustration.
Matt Crowley: You're welcome! I'm glad the video helped. Thank you for the comment and congrats on fixing it yourself.
Have been trying all day to get the oil filter off but like yours it was stuck solid, but also the filter wrench I ordered didn't fit well enough. Never thought of using my power wrench but certainly will once I get the new oil filter wrench. Thanks 👍.
Good choice on getting the right filter wrench. You might want to try a breaker bar with a 27mm socket on the lug of the new filter wrench first before using the impact wrench. My impact wrench did finally work but it's a hostile force on that filter housing. I tried a breaker bar first and it just rocked the car so impact prevailed. Good luck with it.
Hahahaha I've been struggling with an oil filter today and you sir actually made me laugh after raging all day I'm still out of action now hence why I'm watching this but this lightened my mood knowing others have been in the same boat cos before I felt like crying. 🤣🤣
Jeff Dow: Sorry you're dealing with the Toyota Filter Blues. I'm glad you're able to have a laugh about it. Thanks for the comment and for sharing.
Brother, I am feeling, how u felt. 2 hrs and trips to autozone and I have failed temporary but u good to know I ain't alone. Will try again.
BTW it's a 2015 Toyota Corolla.
In my Jeep, I just casually crawl under there, beer in one hand, and poof. Oil filter is removed. In the wife's corolla....#$@!$%#
That's what you get for having a wife!
@@orionred2489 LMAO
I tried changing my oil on my Toyota and I had the same problem. I used 7 different wrenches. I finally went to auto zone and picked up the right wrench
i have serviced a car a few times with this type of filter housing, i found that lubricating the plastic threads with silicone lube and the face of the housing that contacts the housing, will help a lot next time you have to loosen it :)
Martin møller: Thanks for the comment. I just use some fresh oil on the threads and do NOT over-tighten. Then they always come off fine. I'm sure silicone grease would be good also. Thanks again for watching and for the comment.
Ive broken 2 tops off of that metal cap to remove the oil filter and now im here
I'm going to try changing the oil filter on my Toyota Corolla with this oil filter canister. Just got the car back in December of last year. I've never changed the filter. The clip is gone and it was last changed by an indie mechanic. I'm worried that the canister is on really tight. Have the socket tool from Toyota. I'm glad that I saw this excellent video, because now I know what to do if it's over tightened and can't get it off by normal means. Thank you for sharing this knowledge, brother!
audiophile man: I'm glad you liked the video. Since you have the correct wrench, you first try a long-handled wrench (cheater bar). Just be sure the vehicle is well supported so it is safe to do so. If that doesn't work then impact with high torque (like in the video) should get the job done. Thanks for taking the time to comment and for sharing.
@@ScubaMoto Thanks for the further tip on the cheater bar. I've been working on cars and truck for decades, so I'm sure that I can get it done. Hopefully, it won't be too hard to get it off. Have a good day, sir!👍👍👍
Best feeling ever when I got mine off, had to use the 600ftlb setting and ended up cracking the filter housing, thank god I bought an extra one
Air Wick: Good job getting it off even busted.
Thank you so much for this!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for the comment.
Omg thank you this worked perfectly ❤️
You're welcome! I'm glad it helped and congratulations on getting it off.
Excellent video, thanks.
Glad it helped.
Perfect presentation, thanks!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for sharing.
I just broke my oil filter removal tool on Friday trying to take off a housing that had been last torqued on by the 'Stealership'. the spec is 18Ftlbs for the housing and 10ftlbs for the plug if there is one on the bottom. I notice your filter is on sideways but on my Tundra and my wifes Highlander they are vertically mounted.
Yes the 1.8L engine has a different oil filter cap than the larger engines and takes a different tool. The larger ones have a drain plug cause they are mounted vertically.
It was pretty helpful, thank you .
Glad it was helpful. Thanks for the comment.
Thank for the video. I couldn't get the filter out and I have a high impact drill and it didn't occur to me to use it. Thanks for the information, tomorrow I will try to remove only the filter since today I only put the oil.
Angel Zucchet: If you have the filter wrench in the video and you haven't already, I recommend giving a good try with a breaker bar (cheater bar) with a 27mm socket on the wrench lug before resorting to impact. I tried a 24-inch breaker bar and it wouldn't budge. Then a pipe slipped over the bar and it still wouldn't budge. It just started to rock the car (not good on jack stands). Thanks for the comment.
Great video & certainly helped me out.
I'm glad it helped. Thanks for watching and for the comment.
I've been a mechanic for over 30 years & never had such a difficult filter to remove. Hopefully I don't get too many more of these things .
Stephen Barr: This one surprised me too.
my first time doing it for my girl and i was going at the oil filter with a 12" long 27mm wrench for an hour. i got the right leverage and it finally gave. i'm going to be sore tomorrow.
Jesse Costa: Congratulations on getting it off. Thanks for the comment and for sharing.
I have the same issue, what I do with first oil change, I take the car to a mechanic to loose the filter, and change my oil, and I do not super tight the new filter.
Good video! Thanks
Glad you liked it!
I just did my first oil change on my Tacoma after my 2years free service by Toyota ended and I couldn’t get that filter off and I had same tool you did I finally got it off and noticed after I installed oil new filter it dripped when first started then it was ok after warmup when it cooled it dripped again come to find out where it was leaking there was a couple chipped fingers unknown to me so now I ordered a new housing so much for the dealer know how I even dragged my fingers around in the oil looking for chips I did find a little one on my garage floor and matched it up to a much bigger one from the past dealer service where the leak was coming from so I’m now fixing what they did in the past I screwed it in by hand my wife’s car too also a Toyota and no leaks there or chipped fingers same dealer but I guess different mechanic
So it's a good thing I bought that wrench with my first oil change. I've never had any issue with it
Steve M: That's great. And since you're doing it yourself, it will never be over-tightened. Thanks for watching and for the comment.
The best video on TH-cam to solve that problem
Fel X: I'm glad you liked it. Thanks for the comment.
Thank you very much!!! its really working👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
You're very welcome. I'm glad the video helped.
I'm definitely gonna use this Method for sure my Aunt Toyota cap is Really stuck on tight But I have a impact with 1200 foot pounds of Torque I'm sure that Bad boy will brake it lose I hope
I guess the last guy torqued it to "AS IF YOUR LIFE DEPENDED ON IT ft lbs" spec.
I️ tightened myself, with hands. I forgot to put a little grease on the border, or with the same oil to moist it before. Today, I️ can’t remove it and even the upper teeth blows away. I️ will by this tool as my last hope.
I did have to use an impact wrench on mine, snapped off the plastic fins but finally was able to get it off. Had to buy another housing tho.
I was having a terrible time getting mine off when suddenly one of the gripping Fins snapped off leaving a hole into the oil area.
What finally worked was using a 3/8” punch flat against the lip of the cap going around and around several times while hitting the punch with a one lb hammer firmly but not too firmly.
I also wrapped around the cap with 1/2” x12” strip of aluminum tape to make a shim so the filter socket wrench had to be lightly tapped on so it wouldn’t slip. I also heated the cap with a heat gun to try for every advantage. Then using a 1/2” breaker bar it FINALLY broke loose!!! What a relief.
The big question is “ why the hell not just use a quality spin on filter ???🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪
Nicely handled! I hope you didn't have to wait too long for a replacement housing. Thanks for sharing.
@@ScubaMoto fortunately our local parts house stocks them. They said it’s a very common problem so they keep a few of the metal ones in stock. 😎
Thanks & well done Scuba
I'm glad you liked the video. Thanks for the comment.
Thank you for showing that box with the correct location of the o-ring!!!!!!!!
I'm glad to help. Thanks for the comment.
So it's not just me. Had to use my ryobi impact on it. Hope I didn't damage it.
Wish I watched video before changing my sis oil. She was in a rush and I was able to get the filter off, but thought the filter wrench would pop off with a flat head, so I put back on the car after changing eveything, may have put the seal in wrong place on the filter as I put it on the very bottom, box had no instruction. Long story short, sister drove with filter wrench still on as, she was rushing. How did you hammer off the wrench? Flathead and mallet, or pry bar? I tried vise grips and hammering flathead on wrench while filter was on car, should I remove filter and try again. Thank you for any help.
Alex Chic: That's not uncommon. Most likely the 14 flutes of the wrench are locked into a counter-clockwise jam with the flats on the filter housing. Mine was. What usually works for me is to simply reverse the impact wrench and give it a quick clockwise burst. If that doesn't do it, then hold the metal cap wrench in a vise and tap through the center lug and around the edges to release the cap wrench from the housing. Thanks for watching and good luck.
thanks...............JB.
Best oil filter replacement video.
Captain Clark: I'm glad the video helped. Thanks for the comment and for sharing.
@@ScubaMoto Just done replacing with lots of swearing while torquing the filter ! Thank you.
Captain Clark: Congratulations on a job well done. And now that you're doing your own oil changes, the filter will never get over-torqued again.
I had the same problem. After my free services ran out, I went to do it myself, and had to resort to an impact wrench as you did. The thing than really pissed me off about it was, the dealership did that to the filter cartridge. No excuse for that whatsoever... as you pointed out, the torque spec is a surprisingly low 18 foot pounds, which I actually do with a torque wrench... the drain plug too... because I have OCD lol
I'm glad you took the time to carefully do your own maintenance. Free service isn't always the best service. Congrats on a job well done. Thanks for watching and for sharing your comment.
Reading this and dealing with a tight cap myself has convinced me that the dealership's $85 oil change is a rip-off and scam. Doing it myself from now on.
disillusions: $85 isn't even that cheap for an oil change. Plus you have to leave it with them, plus who knows what oil goes in. My oil, my filter: $30. My torque and no drive to their shop: priceless.
ScubaMoto I totally agree. I was always inclined to think that you get what you pay for and therefore I was getting top quality service with the dealership at the price they're charging. If they're applying this much torque just putting on an oil filter - who knows what other shady stuff is going on. I wouldn't be too surprised if they over tightened the oil filter because I declined having them change the two air filters at some ungodly high price. Ugh
I'm so glad you did this video my husband just came back from Toyota and they tried to tell him that this cap was " wearing out and needs replacement". Of course they want $90 for the part but now that I've seen your video I can see that they are the ones that actually broke it because they're the only ones who have ever done any oil changes on it.
That stops today I'm going back to changing the oil myself again.
Damn, I thought I was totally incompetent. Cannot believe Toyota has done this. I have always been impressed with Toyota engineering until running into this. My other problem was i took to dealership which I know used air wrench to put it on. I literally had to put old oil back in car and plan on taking to oil change shop who hopefully deals with this BS on daily basis and has found solution. THANK YOU YT.
Very helpful thanks for sharing.
Glad it helped. Thanks for the comment.
Everybody over torques these filter caps especially the quick lube places that don't use the correct tools and they almost always damage the caps. I bought the special filter cap wrench that looks very similar to the tool used in this video to change the oil in my relative's Toyota. So far, I haven't any problems getting the cap off since the first oil change because I don't over torque.
PickleRix: That's great. And since you're doing it yourself, it will never be over-tightened. Thanks for watching and for the comment.
The morons at my toyota dealer did this to the filter housing on my sienna. I have the same impact wrench, and it broke the top off my cap wrench without loosening. Time to go to the dealer and lay into them.
Matt Hayllar: That sounds bad. It's good you're okay. Maybe the dealer will introduce you to the tech who installed it with impact so they can see the consequences and figure out how to remove it. Thanks for the comment and for sharing.
tanks.
I was trying to change the engine oil for wife's 2013 Prius for the 1st time last weekend. She had been doing it in the dealer. The drain plug went off easily with my 2 ft wrench. The filter was very hard even with the right cap wrench and 2 ft handle bar. I almost gave up before I use my feet to push the wrench bar to get it loose. Similar story on my 2011 Venza. I agree the dealer was trying to stop us from DIY oil changing. Will never do oil change there again.
litong li: Thanks for the comment and congratulations on a job well done. Now that you're doing it yourself, it will never get over-torqued again. Thanks again for the comment and for sharing.
I’ve encountered this problem on my toyota corolla. And I have tried all the tools, a power wrench and still got nothing. I’m about to saw it off because it’s so tight.
how do i know what kind of filter i buy to replace? very new to working on my car
peter forbes: The car in the video is a 2013 Toyota Prius V. The oil filter in the video is Toyota OEM # 04152-YZZA6. amzn.to/30Nr3VZ. But to be sure, you can search on your year and make of car. Thanks for watching and for the question.
I'm wondering if the dealerships put kids and techs. with little experience in the "quick-lube" area to do oil changes and tire rotations?? I learned how to change oil before I could drive a car.... at the same time learned how to properly use a torque wrench for the drain plug and filter.
Stephen Maurer: That's such a great point. I can relate, it's a good basic maintenance skill. But whether it's a dealership or a fast-lube type place, when a young tech is furnished a nice pneumatic impact driver; and he's paid by the job, the last thing he'll reach for is a torque wrench. Most of them are moving as fast as they can to make as much as they can. So the filter wrench goes on the driver, the filter gets pounded home to 200-300ft-lbs in lightning speed and it's on to the next victim. Thanks for watching and for the comment.
I think they have bigfoot doing oil changes...
By far one of the worst designed thing I have seen on a car. I'm 38 years doing this. Very stupid. I think they're selling the sockets that break.
mike vonkleist: and a complex design too. Production costs on this filter housing must have been ridiculous compared to simply specking out a standard metal canister filter like most vehicles.
Just went through this with my 2016 corolla. I bought it used from dealership, and they serviced it beforehand. This was my first oil change on it. And unfortunately my electric impact drill is too big to fit into that space. I ended up just changing the oil this time, and was just going to take it to the dealership or a trusted mechanic for the next oil and filter change. But after watching your video, I think I will instead put that money towards a smaller battery-powered impact drill. Thank you!
Before investing in another impact gun, you might want to try a 1/2 drive ratchet with a 27mm socket on the lug of the filter wrench. You can either slip a long extension pipe on a standard ratchet or use a 24-inch cheater bar and see if that works. Again, you want to do this using a 27mm socket on the filter wrench. If you put a 3/8 drive directly into the head of the filter wrench, you might split the filter wrench in half with a stuck filter. It may also help to spray the base of the filter housing generously with penetrating oil where it contacts the engine and let it sit overnight. In my case (this video), impact was a last resort since my pipe extension was just rocking the car on jack stands and that wasn't safe so impact was necessary.
Thanks for taking the time to reply, and so quickly. Yes I hadn't even considered using the 27mm socket and was just inserting the 3/8" ratchet head in the attachment. I will try that with some penetrating oil on the next oil change. I'm doing this all at home with the car driven up on ramps, so I don't have a lot of room to get a cheater bar on, but I will try your recommendations first before getting another impact drill.
Since I already changed the oil and replace it with advanced full synthetic, I was just going to wait until the next oil change to try again. But now I'm wondering if I can just change the filter without draining the oil? I tried searching but I get mixed answers, some say it depends on the vehicle. Do you know if that can be done on the 2016 corolla?
The discovery that I show in video was that the filter was NOT being replaced at the intervals shown on the dealer's maintenance log for the previous owner. It turned out that if I couldn't get it off, there was no reason to think that they could either. And they weren't. Sure enough, it was clear that the filter you see me pull out in the video was in use for A LOT more than one oil change interval. It's impossible to know how many oil changes they did without changing the filter. These filter housings are designed with a pressure bypass so that if the filter reaches a certain "Clog pressure" oil will simply bypass it and not get filtered. The advantage is to sustain oil pressure where you need it. The obvious downside is that all particulates are getting full distribution in the engine over and over.
To answer your question, you would want to drain the oil to replace the filter. To salvage your new oil, you could always clean capture the fresh oil for continued use. It's risky and you would want to pour it in through some filtration. BUT before draining anything, confirm that you can loosen that filter. Good luck with it.
Bought an oil wrench hat should have been an exact fit. Broke the oil wrench.
I just had to deal with this on my uncle's car. It was leaking oil from the drain plug. I got under there and I was able to turn the drain plug out with my fingers. But the filter canister was incredibly tight. I bought the filter tool from AutoZone and it's not as solid is the one used in this video. I used a breaker bar and it bent the tool! With more work a piece of the cap busted off and created a hole before finally coming loose. The last place to change the oil was the dealership and they didn't tighten the drain plug but over tightened the filter! It was Larry Miller Toyota in the Phoenix area.
jorge242: If the dealer was the last to change the oil then at minimum they did so without changing the filter and possibly over-tightened a new filter. Either way, congratulations on finally undoing someone else's mistake and removing it. Now that you're doing the oil/filter changes yourself, you won't need to encounter an over-torqued filter again. Thanks for sharing the great story.
The WORST part of all of this is that the O-ring is installed in what is called a "static radial seal" which achieves full sealing as soon as the o-ring is fully engaged with the mating bore. any further tightening does NOTHING other than seat the housing to prevent it from unscrewing, and the metal tab is insurance against that.
(Unlike a cartridge oil filter which has a static axial seal which relies on enough compression to withstand the oil pressure.)
In an industrial setting I LOVE Static radial seal type oil filters precisely because of the way they work. You can just hand tighten them to get a leak free seal, and then no need for a wrench to change them.
Exactly. As soon as the O-ring is embedded, it's giving all the seal that it ever will. It's pointless to over-tighten it. But my guess is that most cases of over-tightening are the result of shop techs using a pneumatic wrench to install them with speed as the objective. In a fraction of a second, it puts a few hundred ft-lbs of torque on the housing saving the shop tech at least 6.5 seconds on the install. Time has value! The O-ring feels nothing. Never mind the 1.5 hours plus replacement parts it might cost on the next removal. Thanks much for the great comment.
Just finished my first oil change on a 2014 RAV4 with 12k miles, yes 12k in September 2021. Previous owner had taken car to dealer for oil changes. I too had a really hard time removing oil filter housing. I gave up on the oil filter drain plug. I think the techs had been using the drain plug as a way to tighten the filter back on. And I can see how someone not trained on this filter could be lulled into making that mistake. I read of many folks bypassing the filter drain plug removal with no issues so that's what I did. To remove the housing, I used an Ebay knock off version of the special toyota tool [just like in video with the extra slots for the side fins] and with a 12" cheater bar on my socket wrench, I eventually got the housing to budge. And wow, was it slow to move for many, many revolutions. So when putting the filter housing back on, I noticed that it stopped turning by hand with about a 3/16" gap. So I used a small torque wrench set to 25 NM and the housing turned some more [with the special tool, not the drain plug] and the housing eventually bottomed out. And that is where I stopped even though torque wrench didn't quite click just yet. It's a cheap Harbor Freight model that I don't trust for something delicate like this. Like others mentioned, this is an o-ring filter, not a spin-on with a gasket between housing and engine block [that is dependent on the torque setting for sealing]. And this difference is probably why the filter housing is frequently over-tightened. Also, I'd guess many folks see the 25 NM on the housing and think ft.lbs. when 25 NM is really about 18 ft.lbs. Excellent video. Thanks for sharing. Good luck to all. Toyota really needs to address this issue with a replacement housing.
Mark M:Great comment! Thanks for sharing the experience. Congrats on getting the stuck filter off and congrats on finding one of the best year RAV4s that's barely broken in.
I bought a 2010 Corolla several months ago with only 5 k miles😜
Great Video!
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for the comment.
best video i’ve seen so far
Thanks
I find this very easy to change my car filter. No matter what type it is, because I always hand tight them never used any tools
Mario V: Absolutely agree, but I'm fairly sure most people dealing with this problem are following an oil change done by a third party who probably used an impact wrench to install the filter. That was the case of the one in the video. it was last serviced at a dealer who installed it with an impact wrench. It's very common. Thanks for the comment.
My wife took our Lexus into Jiffy Screwed while I was out of town (I normally change my own oil). When I ventured to change my oil the next time around this happened to me, except the special wrench illustrated here broke. I took it back to Jiffy Screwed and made them loosen it while I watched and tighten it properly with a torque wrench which I provided because they didn't have one. Folks, once the oil filter is seated properly to compress the o-ring on the filter housing it is further tightened to 18 foot lbs - that's an additional 1/8 inch around the circumference, and that's it. Jiffy Screwed is putting these things on with an impact wrench.
George Thompson: Thanks for sharing the great story. I love that you brought it back and had them deal with their own mess. It's not just the lube shops, many dealer techs are using impact to install these thinking they are saving precious time. As for the broken wrench. I'm not sure how it broke but I would guess it split in half at the 3/8 drive insert point. If you use the 3/8 socket drive with an impact tool, they will all eventually break. If you have to use impact, you want to use a 27mm socket on the tool's lug. Thanks again for sharing the great story.
@@ScubaMoto The truly sad thing is these big companies hire young people and toss them into service often with little or no training and don't pay them a living wage. It's pathetic.