I hit the button before finishing. We are Black Parents who homeschooled our son from basically 6th grade to College (1989-1996). During that period there weren’t many Black parents homeschooling. I’m thrilled that things have changed significantly. Over the years my husband and I have educated parents, especially parents of children with special needs to give Homeschooling a try. Homeschooling is well worth the effort and sacrifice. There are now more resources for parents. It’s wonderful to see these moms advocating for our children! We applaud these moms! Carry on!!
I am glad too. I am convinced that black parents need to take control of their children's education and homeschool them. No suspensions, No expulsions, No microaggressions, teach at their pace whether fast or slow and cater to their interests. There is free curriculum all the way to expensive curriculum. Black parents/gardians can do it. I am a homeschool convert.
I started homeschooling this year. The school system totally failed my son. The crazy thing is that he went to a 10 rated school. We live in an expensive mostly white suburb in GA. It still sucked! They kept saying it’s fine he doesn’t know how to spell yet.. he was in the 4th grade!!! After observing him during the pandemic I pulled him out. He asked me to homeschool. He hated it! He’s so much happier. Thank you for doing this interview. So happy to see we are finding our voice!
This interview was not long enough for me! I am a huge fan of working on elements that require rethinking, reimagining or improving. I applaud then and all parents making the sacrifice
Just curious about your comment Maggie. You asked for a longer interview. What would you want to hear more about from them? Personally, I wanted to hear more about what has been found to work for their children to learn and how to show the results of homeschooling their kids. This interview got me curious and interested in hearing more .
@@AdamGoodson I also wanted to learn the format they found that works vs what didn't work. How they fulfill their social needs. I wanted them to discuss a little more about the question regarding ideas from the conservatives. When it comes to conservative ideas, I thought it was important for people to understand they can have ideas people will cosign too and there is a difference between those who practice conservative politics and zealots and extremists. It would be good to learn if they were getting positive inputs from several different types of people and groups. I also wanted to learn more about how they are getting involved in the politics of education. Explore more of where they are finding success and more on what challenges they may be facing. What about property tax. If one is home schooling, are they still contributing to property taxes or can they deduct the costs of home schooling. The one thing I have noticed is, at least within the Black community (I don't have enough info on other communities), those that took control of their children's education either via home schooling, community schooling or schools owned and operated by Black Americans, the kids seem to be excelling. Kids are graduating earlier, proceeding on to college and getting advanced degrees at early ages. More kids have either a STEM or entrepreneurial mindset. It would be great to learn more about the pros and cons, what is helping the kids with their success. They touched on it but I wouldn't mind a deep dive into that aspect of it.
I LOVE this!! I too had to take my son out of public school for 6th grade to detox him from all of the crap up 'till then. It was the best thing I have ever done. He's a very successful adult now.
As a middle class white mother, I taught my 3 kids to read, write, and do math, since our public schools were hopelessly inadequate. Granted, I had a PhD and teaching experience, but I think any devoted parent, even one with a modest education, can learn to teach her own children, at least up to the Middle School level. You have the help of the local library, Khan Academy (free online), and other parents who want to share talents/knowledge. Each city or town block likely has a group of kids who would profit from a neighborhood collective, in which all parents could participate at some level in instruction, guidance, and goal-setting. Ideally, a gifted, committed public school teacher might confer on a regular basis with teacher-parents. Yes, education needs to be re-invented, and who better to do that than people who have suffered from a system that punishes both gifted and special needs students during their formative years, when they can learn the most. Just teach them to read and supply them with books on all subjects, and you'll wind up with kids who are both happier and more knowledgeable than those in most public school systems. And while you're at it, teach them to respect the environment, plant gardens, and work on simple science experiments. It would be necessary to push for government grants to help home-schooling parents replace the income they lose by staying home.
Thank you. Your comment should have way more likes. I observed what the school program consisted of in real life ( it is one thing to see it in paper than to see it delivered) for my special needs senior high schooler during the pandemic (virtual for 18 months). It was clear to me by the second month of online learning that all they kept doing was recycling the same power points, topics, worksheets over and over and there was never a continuum building up of skills but rather a mix of subjects thrown at her daily without any logic cohesion from what was taught the day before. I could finally understand why the progress reports were always so discouraging and that probably my child had grown indifferent and disconnected from any academics happening during school. I started filling in at home with everything I thought her school program was lacking and surprise surprise she did much better, finally her progress reports were something to be proud of. It is an understatement to call it an eye opening experience. Currently I am in a fight with school ( it shouldn’t have to be like this) to change her program to something that look like she is having the kind of support she was getting at home but the stubborn stand from the school and the attitude of “ that is not how we do things” or “can’t do that” is quite frustrating and upsetting. When I ask them to look at the progress from the pandemic months and to use it as a good indication of the environment and/or accommodations that she needs to thrive, I am giving the eye roll attitude. Minded we are in a school district that is supposed to be one of the best in the area, a special ed program with a high reputation, a town population leaning to the left politically, majority white, supposedly respectful, open minded and supportive of different ethnicities, backgrounds, learning needs, etc. They say all the buzz words on their website and literature but I don’t think they really know what it means. I say that with full confidence being an immigrant myself -the type of immigrant that gets the surprised look of “oh did not know there were white looking people where you come from” quite often from people in this town - and with a biracial child. I cannot agree with you more that special needs of not, the most important skills are reading and math, after that our kids can easily explore their interests, get good at it and create a path forward in terms of their education.
I will do the same if my son's private school (Majority Black school) goes off the rail and they haven't. My son has went there since Kindergarten and now going to the 7th! Since last March, they've been virtual and I loved it. They're going back next school year likely in person and they learn about our history year round aside from me teaching him history and things. I'll never put him in public school. If we switched to anything it would be homeschool. I'm glad people are taking this step, safety wise especially no racism, or unfair treatment, no pushing lies in history and not making things harder than need be. No school to prison pipeline!
I'm White, have been in all 50 states, have lived in 17. I have raised two generations of disabled kids. Even in the best systems in the best areas I've seen, it's clear that the road before me is enormously easier than it is for our Black families. In the worst, it's Medieval for all of us. If these families can pull it off, more power to them! May their kids do a better job than we did.
I totally agree that the education system is completely broken. I went to public school that was 85% Black, 10% White and 5% Other. I saw how we lagged behind other school as far as tools. Thank goodness we had a diverse administration who fought for us. As a mother of a black child I saw the educational racism first hand. As a child of two educators I've seen both sides. I agree that parents should do what's best for their children. I believe these women believe it doesn't matter where the money originates. That being said I see what secret money does in politics and I suspect the same will happen here. It always does. #followthemoney
System is not broken ...it is doing exactly what it was designed to do just as the justice, law enforcement & industrial prision complexes! They are on their proposed targets. Dont believe it--compare your Black schools to the prision system...constant school guards presence (prision guards), metal detectors, bathroom mirror is not glass (metal), identical uniforms (prision clothes) , school guards handcuff & arrest instead of detentions...etc. It's all psychological training for future occupants 🤬. I applaud ALL homeschooling parents! Asé.
I went to a great public school back in the 1960s where 80% of the students went on to college, and loved it. It breaks my heart to see that schools have become a place where kids' futures are determined by zip codes and pre-determined expectations.
I am an American expat who went to public school in the South Bronx that was a disaster. I tested very highly and was lucky to get a scholarship to a private school which led me to receive a scholarship to college. I have small children and here in Rome my young children go to a public school. My children are learning 3 different languages other than the Italian they speak daily, they study the history of African kingdoms, Italian history, American history, Beginning Philosophy, art history, global warming, natural science, mathematics etc...My sister lives in LA and her kids go to a very posh private school and they are in junior high school. They aren't learning HALF of what my oldest is learning who is in 2nd grade!!! The American educational system is atrocious. I can't imagine sending my child to public school in America. The RACISM in America is purposely destructive. This is social engineering.
I pulled my son out of public school 3 years ago and he went from being a struggling anxious child who lacked social skills to a thriving mature straight A student! I was appalled at what my son didn’t know even though he was being passed thru like he was fine. They gave him easy work. And the guests are right about IEP’s. IEPs are the devil and they mark your child. The teachers dismiss your child once they have an IEP.
I totally agree with everything these women are saying. While I am not a parent personally, I was once a student in a horrible education system that favored white students, and routinely demonized and punished black and brown students for any and all reasons. Braids in your hair? You were suspended. Mexicans wearing white t-shirts and black pants? You were suspended. More than five Black and Hispanic people hanging out together in a group? You were addressed as a gang and were either suspended, or harassment on campus police. Meanwhile you have white kids allowed to hang out in crowds with Gothic clothing on, swastikas and pentagrams on their binders and hats, with blue and pink hair color facing zero disciplinary action, in fact, being defended by The Faculty! Whatever they did was considered freedom of speech. Whatever black and brown students did was considered degeneracy and promoting Thug / gang attire and lifestyle. and from that experience alone, I have been concerned about the welfare of my nieces and nephew when they, being a Black and Hispanic mix themselves, enter into a school system that has them pegged as potential thugs and criminals from the start.
This was quite interesting to listen to. It seems inevitable that a school system designed in the age of industrialism - with the intention of creating compliant, indoctrinated worker bees - can only fail to meet the needs of today’s stakeholders. Like the students, teachers confront a warping experience that bears no resemblance to the highly effective one-room schoolhouse of yore - where “community” was a fact and not a buzzword, and students emerged from it literate in math as well as reading. We long to go back to small and personalized, multi-aged and diversified groupings, and homeschooling parents speak to that longing. It should not be surprising that their numbers are growing. Michel makes the point that conservatives’ support for these parents may represent a desire to see particular groups of students out of the system, and it feels pertinent. But like moderate victims of cancel culture who find support on the right, it does not seem unreasonable that these mothers would accept support where they find it. This is a heads-up to those who consider themselves progressive educators. And it is a demand that they cannot ignore: how - or even can - they justify their relevance? The pandemic, as Keri Rodriguez notes, has opened a new door, and presents an opportunity for ‘something transformational’. But will the system stubbornly insist on returning to business as usual?
Virginia--you are so right on--times up! New paradigm shift has been happening since the end of the Mayan Calendar in 2012--which did not mean the end of the world but the end of "things as we know it"...hence the shifts we are seeing today! Homeschooling is only the begining...many old systems like bartering, community sharing, caring and support of the very young and elderly--2 of the most vulnerable and sometimes most neglected will return! We, as conscious beings, will no longer be manipulated by the PR machines dictating what you should buy, should do, when to do it & where...i.e...holiday buying that increases the wealth of those who view us as "useless eaters". Let's not stop at Homeschooling....keep it going on all planes! 2021 NEW DAY! WE ARE NO LONGER HOOKED UP TO THE MATRIX! Asé
I just want to honor these 2 moms for not taking the political bait that the interviewer kept putting out there. Like the one mom said, "We Don't have permanent friends, we have permanent interests." The time of allowing the parties to use our babies as political fodder is OVER. We're done. Salute.
What the interviewer is trying to tell them, is that the public school system is underfunded and that Conservatives are using these parents as pawns to abolish the public school system so that private interest groups can buy up the school and privatize it. The people these women are relying on are not working in their best interest
@@kappadarwin9476 democrats aren't working in the children's best interest either, they just have the VENEER of care. It's not real. The day that we understand that neither side really cares about us or our babies the better off we'll all be.
@@NikkiCro Democrats can't do anything because any time they want to pass reform it gets fillibuster. By making Congress look inept Conservatives win because it goes along the lines of "See? Government is ineffective" This game has been going on since the Obama era.
@@kappadarwin9476 I agree with everything that you said, except that the "Government is ineffective" tactic has been going on far longer that the Obama era. It was started in earnest by Ronald Regan, and kicked into high gear during the Clinton administration when Newt Gingrich took over Congress in 1994.
Single parents of any race or gender are going to be the ones that get burnt by this. They can't homeschool their children, they have to work and housekeep, taking on the roles of both spouses. Their kids will be stuck in the sorely underfunded schools.
I said it in 1985. "School" needs to be redefined and reinvented. You can't teach all children the same stuff, in the same way, in the same amount of time. Yet, that's the model. Paying for it with property taxes isn't working either.
I'm so glad you made that comment. I've been teaching 27 years now, nearly 20 in special ed. When I got into special ed and saw the problems in that program, I spoke to administrators-- got nowhere. I turned to union for changes the kids could benefit from and chaired our special ed committee-- nowhere. I was elected to executive board in my union thinking I'll be able to effect change by compelling administrators to listen-- teachers received a payoff. I was elected to my state's council and chaired a subcommittee under Civil Rights in Education-- minimal progress. I was recruited to the state lobby team and sat in front of legislators-- minimal progress. Oh, the politics of the entire beast called public education and in every corner. I have finally burnt out. We should not have "one size fits all" programs in such overwhelming situations with no support that just leave teachers jaded. No one gets into this business to fail. Every teacher craves success until it gets beaten out of them with mandate after mandate, poor direction, poor materials, and very little support for any of it. The best teachers improvise well and put in long hours, but nothing is perfect. We just do the best we can in a system we didn't create.
This was such a powerful Convo...I pulled my girls out of school a few years back but now looking to enroll them back now that they are going into high school and 8th grade...I hope I'm doing the right thing as it is their request to be with friend during their last year of school
@@radiokeri1 How did the school approach that? If I was running the school and we decided to suspend a child (even though I couldn't imagine thinking that would be a good idea for a kindergartener) I probably would stop doing it if their behavior continued. Had you talked to them.about their insane methodology? Thanks for replying
I have been in a K classroom as a student teacher where one girl in the circle bit the boy next to her. This student's aid took her out because this was recurrent problem with this student. I'm not sure how many times this happened. I've also been called a bitch by middle school students that had me set up that day. I did not know at the time that the actual teacher was on leave because she could not keep control of her students, most of whom were not minority students but who simply did not want to learn. I hear "public schools fail children," but I wonder what parents expect when their children sabotage the entire classroom. Teachers may deal with 100 children a day and teachers are very underpaid. When I taught in community college remedial English classes, the cap was 16 students with two instructors. How do parents expect teachers to teach classes of 36 students and make sure everyone's needs are met?
@@JeanneBlumLesinski-tr6se That's a fair point. In school I was known as a disruptive student, but I never did anything like that. So I am definitely lacking perspective here. It's definitely a thankless profession, but is suspending a child 36 times the answer? Isn't there something else we can do to address their behavior before we just propel them out of the system? I think the system may have failed Mrs. Rodrigues child in that instance. By the 5th time her child probably just goes home and is like, "Yeah they told me not to come again." They wouldn't even consider addressing whether or not they are being punished for their behavior. Kids do dumb stuff, but one serious conversation or reprimanding can stick with a child for a long time. I know that. The evidence proposed suggests that suspension didn't work so why wouldn't they try something else?
This is incredible. The kids of these moms are lucky they are taking charge and helping them with their education. It is so disappointing that often our public school system is not able to deliver high quality education, especially to kids of color 👍🏿
You need a share of the state education money for your child! When I homeschooled, the schools kept a file on us and got to keep thousands of dollars every year for each one of my kids-- but we never got any access to the money that was for our children's education. Not even a pencil or eraser. But we got freedom (and bad attitude from some of the educators). All those parents who could not go to work and had to stay home to oversee their child's online education should have gotten a piece of the tax dollars that went to the empty schools... Parents needed that money to keep from fears of going homeless!
Excellent interview Michel Martin. I’ve listened to your interviews over the years on PBS. This by far one of your best! I’m biased, however. My husband and I homeschooled our son
We are White and I homeschooled my youngest in the 80s and 90s and I wished I homeschooled all my white babies...lol. Schools are set up for a certain type of child. Any deviation from the norm and you are marginalized.
Amen says me a mother of 4 adult home educated sons….best thing I ever did in 1991 was take my sons out of the system. The proof is in the pudding…my sons are all more than the label of ADHD diagnosis….it’s about time black families find out about the secret of a child taught at home. We knew one black family in our whole state that did what we did back then.I am thrilled for these families…they do not even know the blessings the future holds for them now….
I can definitely tell you that as a black parent when I raise two children in the public school I had to constantly fight racism. I was a stay-at-home mom for 10 years and I taught my son to read at age 3 and my daughter at age 4. They were well advanced when they entered the public school and I was complimented by many teachers. However, as time went on and we moved to a different state with different teachers they wanted to diagnose my son is ADHD. I never put him on any type of prescription drugs I just fought through it he went on to graduate high school and now he's going to the University of Minnesota thriving. I went to all the teachers meetings I looked at every paper and all the grades and I was constantly fighting with teachers and the racist prejudice approach. Teachers would tell my son when he was in the second and third grade why doesn't he keep up why doesn't he pay attention. So I asked my son why aren't you paying attention what's going on and he told me the teachers are going to slow he understood the assignments and got bored. They didn't want to see that he was smarter than the rest of the students all they wanted to see was that he was slow.
I fully plan on homeschooling if I ever have kids. I asked for it as a child and I think all BIPOC children should consider it. Then we we’ll have to figure out taxes- if Black communities are homeschool we shouldn’t be paying for these failing racist schools
Our education system is not set up to support every child. That's the cold truth. We need better schools AND alternative options for children and parents.
So mom, in online classes(virtual or disticane learning) I'm just checking here: You turned off the TV in your child's learning space? You dedicated a time and space for your child to study? You had strong internet? Your child responded to questions in class? Your child came to class? When teacher reached out to you with progress reports and updates, you responded? Did I get all of this right?
@@shaytheo I can see homeschooling working for lots of kids. The kind of parent that takes on homeschooling is probably aware of their child's needs and learning style. Homeschooling is also good for kids so they are less likely to be influenced by their peers and for the those who are more susceptible to influence it's easier to focus. I just want to hear of specific example whenever the word racism is used. The word often clouds problems so the best solutions are overlooked.
@@Anton-sz3sr I agree. Examples of racism would be helpful. In states that use property taxes to fund schools, the schools in less affluent neighborhoods will be less well funded. If this is an inner city with a large minority population of low wage earners, then the lack of money is due to the factors that made that a minority neighborhood [maybe redlining and white flight]. When I was in the classroom, I used a stack of cards with each student's name on it to make sure that I called on everyone in the class to answer questions, not just the few students who always wanted to answer. I did this to make sure that I was not leaving out anyone. Do other teachers do this? Yes. What about those who don't?
"The field is yellow with the harvest. Ask the Father for workers". We need effective teachers. The job is very complex. It starts at the caring heart.
The current education model works for kids that will potentially become: Doctors Lawyers etc But what happens to kids the see they world different?: Entrepreneurs Philosophers etc These kids think outside the box. They don’t adhere to the status quo. Question the way things are. Thinking like that is called behavioural issues and there is a drug for that. There is a reason why these tech companies were started by drop outs. They were thinking and looking for a better way to do things and found school boring and unchallenging. There is a place for the traditional model of education, but it does not work for all kids and there is nothing wrong with the kids that don’t thrive in them. And ADHD drugs are not the solution either.
Good for anyone who makes a commitment to educate their children at home. Fair warning, it is not for the faint at heart. Homeschooling is a major undertaking and you have to be prepared to learn alongside your children. I homeschooled both my daughters till they turned 16 in the 80s and 90s. They transitioned to regular school in the last 2 years of high school which helped them when they went to collage and in starting their first jobs. Both my daughters have done well in their adult lives and careers.
My family is white and my wife will be home schooling our son next year. Since COVID and our son went back to school it's been a nightmare for him. This year his grades have went down,his self esteem is low and the bullying has gotten bad. He's in 7th grade and drugs have gotten so bad in the schools where we live. We're just trying to finish this year and wife will educate our son.
At age 40 after spending $36K on getting a teaching license and a year of unpaid student teaching in K-12 and two years of sub teaching, I learned that education is very stressful, demanding work where even many of the most hardworking and well-intentioned teachers are underpaid and disrespected by students and parents. Imagine being in crowded classrooms of 30 or more students for 5-6 sessions a day with several different lesson plans to make and teach [I teach foreign languages and English] and hundreds of assignments to correct and then try to email or call parents to follow up on their children's progress, only to have the parents call you vulgar names? Imagine having a small handful of students in a classroom tag team you with antics and slurs to disrupt the whole classroom? Lower classroom sizes and higher teacher salaries would help bring the best people into the classrooms, and help from administrators and parents would help keep them there. When I taught remedial English in the community college [basically high school English] the cap was 16 students and two instructors. The students got the individualized learning they needed and they were willing participants in their education. In the end, I gave up teaching because the stress wasn't worth it.
They didn’t teach at all in my area while the kids was out of school for Covid-19. They just gave out school work online without any resources for the kids or parents to go to. Then was no one to contact when you needed help. The kids are still trying to catch up two years later and the teachers went into the school years like these kids actually knew the work. They didn’t. But the county to the north of us had zoom classes for their kids. The kids could ask questions and get assistance. My daughter wants to homeschool and I’m open to it. I just need resources to do it and I’m looking into that now. My only problem is I work 6am to 6:30 pm so it limits me a lot but I still feel we can do this.
3 of the 4 went to college, 2 of the four own a home and have families. But more importantly they think for themselves they are empathetic and confident…and had they had the label of adhd on them in the system they would never be what they are…black children are bearing way more than a diagnosis with a label, for non white children their person is carrying a label that for some must hinder their person, too. I hope I am alive to see the difference this makes in the future for these children. Nice to know the pandemic brought this empowerment to these families…and again I say amen!
Ok I have homeschooled my children from the beginning and it is the best route. Parents when your children tell you homeschool me, ask yourself why, listen to your children. However I strongly belief there’s no systematic racism in the schools. I believe they treat everyone the same, and that is poorly. Schools are Indoctrination camps, conveyor belts if you will. Look into it. I’m Latina and I didn’t send my kids to schools not bc I thought they are racist. No, I didn’t send them bc I wasn’t gonna allow my kids to be indoctrinated to the benefit of the government and bc I wanted them to have a better education. And other reasons. Not everything is about “racism”.
It's different for black males. I'm a conservative independent and CRT drives me up the walls but black males catch it in schools and the justice system later.
Home schooling has the same inherent risk as private, and in particular, Christian "academies," in that, the preparation for coexistence with those who don't look, or speak, or believe as you do, is one of the most important parts of the public school experience. I grew up in South Carolina, in the most intense period of desegregation, attending Junior High in the suburbs, where Black and brown kids were bussed out from urban Columbia, and, along with first Black teachers i'd experienced in the classroom (and i'll remember, and revere, Mr. Trapp and Mr. Robinson long after most of the white teachers i had then,) the initial exposure to, and learning from, sharing classroom, gym, band, etc. with a diverse student body rapidly yielded a sense that it was the parents who were up in arms about integration - not us kids. When it came time for High school, the mechanism flipped - suburban kids were bussed into downtown Columbia, to an old brick building blocks away form the Statehouse, and on the opposite corner of First Baptist Church, where the Articles of Secession were signed by Confederacy’s founders. That experience was invaluable, shaping the balance of my life and mindset, as it laid bare the irrelevance and invalidity of the South's history of and economy and society rooted in chattel slavery. Granted, the focus on education eroded, as the same lack of acceptance by white parents, and the perceived empowerment of their kids, whose resentment they felt was justified, awoke me to the fatal attraction of willful ignorance, and the siren song clinging to untruths across generations, and i sought out an early entrance College in NC, and bailed on the turmoil that distracted from edification, for too many kids. The upshot of this upraising? Moved to California before i was 21, enthralled to experience more diversity than i'd ever imagined. Two years later, fell in love with, and began a 14-year relationship with, a Black woman, who was educated, wordly, and talented in many ways. Her parents were from the South, too, yet half her siblings married people with less melanin than they, some from Japan or Europe. They been raised to love, not to "other," and their lives, like mine, were richer for embracing difference, and gaining appreciation for unfamiliar family traditions and cultural histories. Truth be told, i still like "Jubilee Day," as it _is_ the most righteous cause for celebration - and hope for becoming citizens of the World, unfettered from the terrible past that created so much suffering, to engender an inclusive, multicultural future, mindful of the crippling, toxic influence of irrational discrimination. Fix schools, rather than fleeing community, as the latter isn't a choice - it's an imperative.
In public school you learn to fit in. Certain pecking orders persist. Not fitting in can kill you. You're biased against home school, and so that cheerleader and football team run society seems okay to you.
Its not "staggering" enough. Needs to be 100% increase year over year, until all of our children rec 'adequate' education based on facts not fiction/popular opinion.
Well, the parents are also choosing Afrocentric schools, private schools, home school co-ops, charter schools, religious schools, and Montessori schools.
Omgoodness! 80% of the teachers are white women?🙄 But of all those Black teachers laid off from Chicago's 50 CLOSED SCHOOLS surely not teaching in mixed or white schools. Thankfully these parents are showing the way to our youth who deserve nothing less than the best. Bravo! To all of these families, my hats off to you!👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
We need more minorities to become teachers. When I was teaching in elementary in the Midwest the majority were white women and a handful of white men [men often will not teach in K-6 because people are suspicious of a men working with young children!]
We gave up desegregating schools, so I don’t know why the “experts” would be surprised. Homeschooling is an amazing option for those that flourish in it, but I hope we can continue to try and fix the school systems for parents incapable of providing that for their kids.
I truly get where you are coming from and that is my greatest hope one day. If I may share a thought. I was listening to a conversation around a new app called Black People Eats. This app was birthed from an idea to help black owned restaurants gain more exposure and help them network to grow their businesses. Prior, it wasn't happening for whatever reasons existed. Additionally during the pandemic, most black owned restaurants were left out of bailouts and the stimulus packages, as were many small businesses. We, as Black Americans also pay taxes and yet when it comes to government backed loans and bailouts, it seems there is nothing available for most minority owned businesses. So the same owner of the app started a gofundme for Black owned restaurants, raised a nice amount money and shared it equally amongst the restaurants participating in the app. These efforts, combined, created a new company, raised the awareness of these businesses, increased their profits and helped them to survive the pandemic. The response to these efforts was accusations of segregation and reverse racism and whataboutism. What if we call something White People eats. Racism and division contributed to creating the need. We can't blame it if it is used to create solutions IMHO.
There is overlap in the list of reasons school can suck for white and black children but racism is absolutely on the list for black and other non-white children. Racism has to be addressed, this elephant won't go away on its own. The focus on this story was the rise in home-schooling in non-white families so if racism in schools is one of the reasons, it has to be discussed. I do think that given more time that other issues that are common to all parents who homeschool would be brought up. Why do you feel it's divisive to bring up racism if that is what they experienced? I am asking sincerely, that's not a gotcha question. There is much that we all have in common but we can't ignore our differences. We need to listen to each other.
Yes, the conversation is everywhere for White people. I suggest you start with Jordan Almanzar's TH-cam videos. This video is specifically about race. It was not created to exclude you.
Idk why the interviewer is questioning their funding because conservatives help out. Guess what? Conservatives homeschool their kids too and have been talking about this for a long time. The interviewer's reasoning didn't even make sense. Conservatives are trying to break the teachers union because they give to democrats AND trying to get black kids out of public schools so that's why they fund black homeschool groups? First of all many conservatives are not white, And what would they gain by getting black kids out of public schools. They clearly think public schools are not the best deal for a lot of kids because they don't send their kids to them either.
That point from the interviewer angered me so much. My husband and I are black moderates and have homeschooled our 5 children for 10 years. We would never send them back to public or private schools because we know a student becomes like his teacher, and we want to be their most influential teacher. We couldn't care less if a good idea comes from a Dem or a Rep. We want laws that both protect our freedom as a family and also benefit society. How insulting to think our life choices should be shaped by which political party backs it.
Student Voucher System I am an advocate of implementing a Student Voucher System, which would freely allow Parents and Student to select the best education for the Student. This would allow Market Forces to favor the best Public or Private Educational Facilities. Which would increase the overall intellectual educational development results relative to the price invested. Achieving a greater return on the dollar. Resulting in more efficient spending, and a greater educated population. Improving and increasing the potential success of America’s Greatest Natural Resource, Intellectual Ingenuity and Creative Problem Solving. This will increase the Gross Domestic Product (GDP) of America as a whole. Which will increase the Ratio of Products and Services as compared to circulating Fiat Currency. Which will increase the Purchasing Power of Currency. Which will decrease Inflation. Which will energize and drive the Economic Engine and drive a Robust Economy. And advance New Growth thru the Intellectual Property Generated by the Innovations of a Science and Solutions based Economy.
My biggest concern is abuse. I've worked on casas where homeschooled children were beat and raped - especially religiously-based curriculum like Bill Gothard garbage. How frequently should police check on kids? I'd say weekly, at least.
No. All the kids in my school district were online. The teachers were doing the schooling, with the district's curriculum. That's not home schooling any more than holding class on the grass is wilderness survival.
I hit the button before finishing. We are Black Parents who homeschooled our son from basically 6th grade to College (1989-1996). During that period there weren’t many Black parents homeschooling. I’m thrilled that things have changed significantly. Over the years my husband and I have educated parents, especially parents of children with special needs to give Homeschooling a try. Homeschooling is well worth the effort and sacrifice. There are now more resources for parents. It’s wonderful to see these moms advocating for our children! We applaud these moms! Carry on!!
Thank you for being such wonderful parents 💖
I am glad too. I am convinced that black parents need to take control of their children's education and homeschool them. No suspensions, No expulsions, No microaggressions, teach at their pace whether fast or slow and cater to their interests. There is free curriculum all the way to expensive curriculum. Black parents/gardians can do it. I am a homeschool convert.
I started homeschooling this year. The school system totally failed my son. The crazy thing is that he went to a 10 rated school. We live in an expensive mostly white suburb in GA. It still sucked! They kept saying it’s fine he doesn’t know how to spell yet.. he was in the 4th grade!!! After observing him during the pandemic I pulled him out. He asked me to homeschool. He hated it! He’s so much happier. Thank you for doing this interview. So happy to see we are finding our voice!
It's Georgia, I get it. from Florida.
@@realitycheck1261 black homeschooler in FL 🙋🏾♀️
This interview was not long enough for me! I am a huge fan of working on elements that require rethinking, reimagining or improving. I applaud then and all parents making the sacrifice
Just curious about your comment Maggie. You asked for a longer interview.
What would you want to hear more about from them?
Personally, I wanted to hear more about what has been found to work for their children to learn and how to show the results of homeschooling their kids.
This interview got me curious and interested in hearing more .
@@AdamGoodson I also wanted to learn the format they found that works vs what didn't work. How they fulfill their social needs. I wanted them to discuss a little more about the question regarding ideas from the conservatives.
When it comes to conservative ideas, I thought it was important for people to understand they can have ideas people will cosign too and there is a difference between those who practice conservative politics and zealots and extremists. It would be good to learn if they were getting positive inputs from several different types of people and groups.
I also wanted to learn more about how they are getting involved in the politics of education. Explore more of where they are finding success and more on what challenges they may be facing. What about property tax. If one is home schooling, are they still contributing to property taxes or can they deduct the costs of home schooling.
The one thing I have noticed is, at least within the Black community (I don't have enough info on other communities), those that took control of their children's education either via home schooling, community schooling or schools owned and operated by Black Americans, the kids seem to be excelling. Kids are graduating earlier, proceeding on to college and getting advanced degrees at early ages. More kids have either a STEM or entrepreneurial mindset. It would be great to learn more about the pros and cons, what is helping the kids with their success. They touched on it but I wouldn't mind a deep dive into that aspect of it.
I LOVE this!! I too had to take my son out of public school for 6th grade to detox him from all of the crap up 'till then. It was the best thing I have ever done. He's a very successful adult now.
If I had school age children, I would home school. Not about religion, about best education and safety.
America's place in the world for education is abysmal.
FANTASTIC! WE NEED TO DO THIS WITH OUR FOOD SOURCE AS WELL.
As a middle class white mother, I taught my 3 kids to read, write, and do math, since our public schools were hopelessly inadequate. Granted, I had a PhD and teaching experience, but I think any devoted parent, even one with a modest education, can learn to teach her own children, at least up to the Middle School level. You have the help of the local library, Khan Academy (free online), and other parents who want to share talents/knowledge. Each city or town block likely has a group of kids who would profit from a neighborhood collective, in which all parents could participate at some level in instruction, guidance, and goal-setting. Ideally, a gifted, committed public school teacher might confer on a regular basis with teacher-parents. Yes, education needs to be re-invented, and who better to do that than people who have suffered from a system that punishes both gifted and special needs students during their formative years, when they can learn the most. Just teach them to read and supply them with books on all subjects, and you'll wind up with kids who are both happier and more knowledgeable than those in most public school systems. And while you're at it, teach them to respect the environment, plant gardens, and work on simple science experiments. It would be necessary to push for government grants to help home-schooling parents replace the income they lose by staying home.
Thank you. Your comment should have way more likes. I observed what the school program consisted of in real life ( it is one thing to see it in paper than to see it delivered) for my special needs senior high schooler during the pandemic (virtual for 18 months). It was clear to me by the second month of online learning that all they kept doing was recycling the same power points, topics, worksheets over and over and there was never a continuum building up of skills but rather a mix of subjects thrown at her daily without any logic cohesion from what was taught the day before. I could finally understand why the progress reports were always so discouraging and that probably my child had grown indifferent and disconnected from any academics happening during school.
I started filling in at home with everything I thought her school program was lacking and surprise surprise she did much better, finally her progress reports were something to be proud of. It is an understatement to call it an eye opening experience. Currently I am in a fight with school ( it shouldn’t have to be like this) to change her program to something that look like she is having the kind of support she was getting at home but the stubborn stand from the school and the attitude of “ that is not how we do things” or “can’t do that” is quite frustrating and upsetting. When I ask them to look at the progress from the pandemic months and to use it as a good indication of the environment and/or accommodations that she needs to thrive, I am giving the eye roll attitude. Minded we are in a school district that is supposed to be one of the best in the area, a special ed program with a high reputation, a town population leaning to the left politically, majority white, supposedly respectful, open minded and supportive of different ethnicities, backgrounds, learning needs, etc. They say all the buzz words on their website and literature but I don’t think they really know what it means. I say that with full confidence being an immigrant myself -the type of immigrant that gets the surprised look of “oh did not know there were white looking people where you come from” quite often from people in this town - and with a biracial child.
I cannot agree with you more that special needs of not, the most important skills are reading and math, after that our kids can easily explore their interests, get good at it and create a path forward in terms of their education.
I will do the same if my son's private school (Majority Black school) goes off the rail and they haven't. My son has went there since Kindergarten and now going to the 7th! Since last March, they've been virtual and I loved it. They're going back next school year likely in person and they learn about our history year round aside from me teaching him history and things. I'll never put him in public school. If we switched to anything it would be homeschool. I'm glad people are taking this step, safety wise especially no racism, or unfair treatment, no pushing lies in history and not making things harder than need be. No school to prison pipeline!
I'm White, have been in all 50 states, have lived in 17. I have raised two generations of disabled kids. Even in the best systems in the best areas I've seen, it's clear that the road before me is enormously easier than it is for our Black families. In the worst, it's Medieval for all of us. If these families can pull it off, more power to them! May their kids do a better job than we did.
I totally agree that the education system is completely broken. I went to public school that was 85% Black, 10% White and 5% Other. I saw how we lagged behind other school as far as tools. Thank goodness we had a diverse administration who fought for us. As a mother of a black child I saw the educational racism first hand. As a child of two educators I've seen both sides. I agree that parents should do what's best for their children. I believe these women believe it doesn't matter where the money originates. That being said I see what secret money does in politics and I suspect the same will happen here. It always does. #followthemoney
System is not broken ...it is doing exactly what it was designed to do just as the justice, law enforcement & industrial prision complexes! They are on their proposed targets.
Dont believe it--compare your Black schools to the prision system...constant school guards presence (prision guards), metal detectors, bathroom mirror is not glass (metal), identical uniforms (prision clothes) , school guards handcuff & arrest instead of detentions...etc. It's all psychological training for future occupants 🤬.
I applaud ALL homeschooling parents! Asé.
Mother of black child? You adopted the child then?
@@msann5707 👏👏👏 My sentiments exactly. Unfortunate though.
I went to a great public school back in the 1960s where 80% of the students went on to college, and loved it. It breaks my heart to see that schools have become a place where kids' futures are determined by zip codes and pre-determined expectations.
Amazing women!!! Wonderful.
I am an American expat who went to public school in the South Bronx that was a disaster. I tested very highly and was lucky to get a scholarship to a private school which led me to receive a scholarship to college. I have small children and here in Rome my young children go to a public school. My children are learning 3 different languages other than the Italian they speak daily, they study the history of African kingdoms, Italian history, American history, Beginning Philosophy, art history, global warming, natural science, mathematics etc...My sister lives in LA and her kids go to a very posh private school and they are in junior high school. They aren't learning HALF of what my oldest is learning who is in 2nd grade!!! The American educational system is atrocious. I can't imagine sending my child to public school in America. The RACISM in America is purposely destructive. This is social engineering.
It's so lovely to encounter truth in these TH-cam comments
Wow that sounds amazing
I was homeschooled and I do not regret it.
The system sucks
I pulled my son out of public school 3 years ago and he went from being a struggling anxious child who lacked social skills to a thriving mature straight A student! I was appalled at what my son didn’t know even though he was being passed thru like he was fine. They gave him easy work. And the guests are right about IEP’s. IEPs are the devil and they mark your child. The teachers dismiss your child once they have an IEP.
Ms. Amanpour, We are with you in spirit. Stay strong. We are fighting the battle while you are healing.
This was very inspirational. More power to these parents!
I totally agree with everything these women are saying. While I am not a parent personally, I was once a student in a horrible education system that favored white students, and routinely demonized and punished black and brown students for any and all reasons. Braids in your hair? You were suspended. Mexicans wearing white t-shirts and black pants? You were suspended. More than five Black and Hispanic people hanging out together in a group? You were addressed as a gang and were either suspended, or harassment on campus police. Meanwhile you have white kids allowed to hang out in crowds with Gothic clothing on, swastikas and pentagrams on their binders and hats, with blue and pink hair color facing zero disciplinary action, in fact, being defended by The Faculty! Whatever they did was considered freedom of speech. Whatever black and brown students did was considered degeneracy and promoting Thug / gang attire and lifestyle. and from that experience alone, I have been concerned about the welfare of my nieces and nephew when they, being a Black and Hispanic mix themselves, enter into a school system that has them pegged as potential thugs and criminals from the start.
This was quite interesting to listen to. It seems inevitable that a school system designed in the age of industrialism - with the intention of creating compliant, indoctrinated worker bees - can only fail to meet the needs of today’s stakeholders. Like the students, teachers confront a warping experience that bears no resemblance to the highly effective one-room schoolhouse of yore - where “community” was a fact and not a buzzword, and students emerged from it literate in math as well as reading. We long to go back to small and personalized, multi-aged and diversified groupings, and homeschooling parents speak to that longing. It should not be surprising that their numbers are growing.
Michel makes the point that conservatives’ support for these parents may represent a desire to see particular groups of students out of the system, and it feels pertinent. But like moderate victims of cancel culture who find support on the right, it does not seem unreasonable that these mothers would accept support where they find it.
This is a heads-up to those who consider themselves progressive educators. And it is a demand that they cannot ignore: how - or even can - they justify their relevance?
The pandemic, as Keri Rodriguez notes, has opened a new door, and presents an opportunity for ‘something transformational’. But will the system stubbornly insist on returning to business as usual?
Virginia--you are so right on--times up! New paradigm shift has been happening since the end of the Mayan Calendar in 2012--which did not mean the end of the world but the end of "things as we know it"...hence the shifts we are seeing today! Homeschooling is only the begining...many old systems like bartering, community sharing, caring and support of the very young and elderly--2 of the most vulnerable and sometimes most neglected will return! We, as conscious beings, will no longer be manipulated by the PR machines dictating what you should buy, should do, when to do it & where...i.e...holiday buying that increases the wealth of those who view us as "useless eaters". Let's not stop at Homeschooling....keep it going on all planes!
2021 NEW DAY! WE ARE NO LONGER HOOKED UP TO THE MATRIX! Asé
Awesome parents! There is hope!
I just want to honor these 2 moms for not taking the political bait that the interviewer kept putting out there. Like the one mom said, "We Don't have permanent friends, we have permanent interests." The time of allowing the parties to use our babies as political fodder is OVER. We're done. Salute.
What the interviewer is trying to tell them, is that the public school system is underfunded and that Conservatives are using these parents as pawns to abolish the public school system so that private interest groups can buy up the school and privatize it. The people these women are relying on are not working in their best interest
@@kappadarwin9476 democrats aren't working in the children's best interest either, they just have the VENEER of care. It's not real. The day that we understand that neither side really cares about us or our babies the better off we'll all be.
@@NikkiCro Democrats can't do anything because any time they want to pass reform it gets fillibuster. By making Congress look inept Conservatives win because it goes along the lines of "See? Government is ineffective" This game has been going on since the Obama era.
@@kappadarwin9476 I agree with everything that you said, except that the "Government is ineffective" tactic has been going on far longer that the Obama era. It was started in earnest by Ronald Regan, and kicked into high gear during the Clinton administration when Newt Gingrich took over Congress in 1994.
Single parents of any race or gender are going to be the ones that get burnt by this. They can't homeschool their children, they have to work and housekeep, taking on the roles of both spouses. Their kids will be stuck in the sorely underfunded schools.
I said it in 1985. "School" needs to be redefined and reinvented. You can't teach all children the same stuff, in the same way, in the same amount of time. Yet, that's the model. Paying for it with property taxes isn't working either.
I'm so glad you made that comment. I've been teaching 27 years now, nearly 20 in special ed. When I got into special ed and saw the problems in that program, I spoke to administrators-- got nowhere. I turned to union for changes the kids could benefit from and chaired our special ed committee-- nowhere. I was elected to executive board in my union thinking I'll be able to effect change by compelling administrators to listen-- teachers received a payoff. I was elected to my state's council and chaired a subcommittee under Civil Rights in Education-- minimal progress. I was recruited to the state lobby team and sat in front of legislators-- minimal progress. Oh, the politics of the entire beast called public education and in every corner. I have finally burnt out. We should not have "one size fits all" programs in such overwhelming situations with no support that just leave teachers jaded. No one gets into this business to fail. Every teacher craves success until it gets beaten out of them with mandate after mandate, poor direction, poor materials, and very little support for any of it. The best teachers improvise well and put in long hours, but nothing is perfect. We just do the best we can in a system we didn't create.
This was such a powerful Convo...I pulled my girls out of school a few years back but now looking to enroll them back now that they are going into high school and 8th grade...I hope I'm doing the right thing as it is their request to be with friend during their last year of school
How do you suspend a kindergartener 36 times??? She walked through that unbelievable statement so quick!
Happy to discuss it with you further, if you’re interested.
@@radiokeri1 How did the school approach that? If I was running the school and we decided to suspend a child (even though I couldn't imagine thinking that would be a good idea for a kindergartener) I probably would stop doing it if their behavior continued. Had you talked to them.about their insane methodology?
Thanks for replying
I have been in a K classroom as a student teacher where one girl in the circle bit the boy next to her. This student's aid took her out because this was recurrent problem with this student. I'm not sure how many times this happened. I've also been called a bitch by middle school students that had me set up that day. I did not know at the time that the actual teacher was on leave because she could not keep control of her students, most of whom were not minority students but who simply did not want to learn. I hear "public schools fail children," but I wonder what parents expect when their children sabotage the entire classroom. Teachers may deal with 100 children a day and teachers are very underpaid. When I taught in community college remedial English classes, the cap was 16 students with two instructors. How do parents expect teachers to teach classes of 36 students and make sure everyone's needs are met?
@@JeanneBlumLesinski-tr6se That's a fair point. In school I was known as a disruptive student, but I never did anything like that. So I am definitely lacking perspective here. It's definitely a thankless profession, but is suspending a child 36 times the answer? Isn't there something else we can do to address their behavior before we just propel them out of the system? I think the system may have failed Mrs. Rodrigues child in that instance. By the 5th time her child probably just goes home and is like, "Yeah they told me not to come again." They wouldn't even consider addressing whether or not they are being punished for their behavior. Kids do dumb stuff, but one serious conversation or reprimanding can stick with a child for a long time. I know that. The evidence proposed suggests that suspension didn't work so why wouldn't they try something else?
This is incredible. The kids of these moms are lucky they are taking charge and helping them with their education. It is so disappointing that often our public school system is not able to deliver high quality education, especially to kids of color 👍🏿
These women are AMAZING! 100% Truth Tellers!
Great women. Well done ladies 💖💐
You need a share of the state education money for your child! When I homeschooled, the schools kept a file on us and got to keep thousands of dollars every year for each one of my kids-- but we never got any access to the money that was for our children's education. Not even a pencil or eraser. But we got freedom (and bad attitude from some of the educators). All those parents who could not go to work and had to stay home to oversee their child's online education should have gotten a piece of the tax dollars that went to the empty schools... Parents needed that money to keep from fears of going homeless!
Love these two smart and articulate women.
Too many educators are Karens.
This interviewers biased is insane. These women are amazing and I’m thankful they are advocating for parents, families and children!
Excellent interview Michel Martin. I’ve listened to your interviews over the years on PBS. This by far one of your best! I’m biased, however. My husband and I homeschooled our son
We are White and I homeschooled my youngest in the 80s and 90s and I wished I homeschooled all my white babies...lol. Schools are set up for a certain type of child. Any deviation from the norm and you are marginalized.
Amen says me a mother of 4 adult home educated sons….best thing I ever did in 1991 was take my sons out of the system. The proof is in the pudding…my sons are all more than the label of ADHD diagnosis….it’s about time black families find out about the secret of a child taught at home. We knew one black family in our whole state that did what we did back then.I am thrilled for these families…they do not even know the blessings the future holds for them now….
The title says “black parents” but there’s a latina on the program.
Click bate. She was talking about some serious stuff and is a great leader. By any means necessary.
I can definitely tell you that as a black parent when I raise two children in the public school I had to constantly fight racism. I was a stay-at-home mom for 10 years and I taught my son to read at age 3 and my daughter at age 4. They were well advanced when they entered the public school and I was complimented by many teachers. However, as time went on and we moved to a different state with different teachers they wanted to diagnose my son is ADHD. I never put him on any type of prescription drugs I just fought through it he went on to graduate high school and now he's going to the University of Minnesota thriving. I went to all the teachers meetings I looked at every paper and all the grades and I was constantly fighting with teachers and the racist prejudice approach. Teachers would tell my son when he was in the second and third grade why doesn't he keep up why doesn't he pay attention. So I asked my son why aren't you paying attention what's going on and he told me the teachers are going to slow he understood the assignments and got bored. They didn't want to see that he was smarter than the rest of the students all they wanted to see was that he was slow.
So the possibilities are endless?!🥳
I fully plan on homeschooling if I ever have kids. I asked for it as a child and I think all BIPOC children should consider it. Then we we’ll have to figure out taxes- if Black communities are homeschool we shouldn’t be paying for these failing racist schools
Our education system is not set up to support every child. That's the cold truth. We need better schools AND alternative options for children and parents.
So mom, in online classes(virtual or disticane learning) I'm just checking here: You turned off the TV in your child's learning space? You dedicated a time and space for your child to study? You had strong internet? Your child responded to questions in class? Your child came to class? When teacher reached out to you with progress reports and updates, you responded? Did I get all of this right?
Wish there were direct examples of the racism given in this interview. Public school doesn't work for all sorts of kids who learn differently.
True, but there are lots of studies and data on white families homeschooling. This story lifts up the movement within the Black community.
@@shaytheo I can see homeschooling working for lots of kids. The kind of parent that takes on homeschooling is probably aware of their child's needs and learning style. Homeschooling is also good for kids so they are less likely to be influenced by their peers and for the those who are more susceptible to influence it's easier to focus. I just want to hear of specific example whenever the word racism is used. The word often clouds problems so the best solutions are overlooked.
@@Anton-sz3sr I agree. Examples of racism would be helpful. In states that use property taxes to fund schools, the schools in less affluent neighborhoods will be less well funded. If this is an inner city with a large minority population of low wage earners, then the lack of money is due to the factors that made that a minority neighborhood [maybe redlining and white flight]. When I was in the classroom, I used a stack of cards with each student's name on it to make sure that I called on everyone in the class to answer questions, not just the few students who always wanted to answer. I did this to make sure that I was not leaving out anyone. Do other teachers do this? Yes. What about those who don't?
"The field is yellow with the harvest. Ask the Father for workers". We need effective teachers. The job is very complex. It starts at the caring heart.
The current education model works for kids that will potentially become:
Doctors
Lawyers etc
But what happens to kids the see they world different?:
Entrepreneurs
Philosophers etc
These kids think outside the box. They don’t adhere to the status quo. Question the way things are. Thinking like that is called behavioural issues and there is a drug for that.
There is a reason why these tech companies were started by drop outs. They were thinking and looking for a better way to do things and found school boring and unchallenging.
There is a place for the traditional model of education, but it does not work for all kids and there is nothing wrong with the kids that don’t thrive in them. And ADHD drugs are not the solution either.
Good for anyone who makes a commitment to educate their children at home. Fair warning, it is not for the faint at heart. Homeschooling is a major undertaking and you have to be prepared to learn alongside your children. I homeschooled both my daughters till they turned 16 in the 80s and 90s. They transitioned to regular school in the last 2 years of high school which helped them when they went to collage and in starting their first jobs. Both my daughters have done well in their adult lives and careers.
My family is white and my wife will be home schooling our son next year. Since COVID and our son went back to school it's been a nightmare for him. This year his grades have went down,his self esteem is low and the bullying has gotten bad. He's in 7th grade and drugs have gotten so bad in the schools where we live. We're just trying to finish this year and wife will educate our son.
You are right about public schools, I saw this back in the 70's when I was in school. It got worse over time.
80s wasn't that great either especially after the powers that be took away music and poetry🤦
Tons of white parents do it too home schooling is fine to do. They are making a good choice.
I think a hybrid program should be developed for people that see the benefits in physical schooling, and home schooling.
@13:58 “Public Schools are threatened by their failing children.”
Wow! Love how she put it
At age 40 after spending $36K on getting a teaching license and a year of unpaid student teaching in K-12 and two years of sub teaching, I learned that education is very stressful, demanding work where even many of the most hardworking and well-intentioned teachers are underpaid and disrespected by students and parents. Imagine being in crowded classrooms of 30 or more students for 5-6 sessions a day with several different lesson plans to make and teach [I teach foreign languages and English] and hundreds of assignments to correct and then try to email or call parents to follow up on their children's progress, only to have the parents call you vulgar names? Imagine having a small handful of students in a classroom tag team you with antics and slurs to disrupt the whole classroom? Lower classroom sizes and higher teacher salaries would help bring the best people into the classrooms, and help from administrators and parents would help keep them there. When I taught remedial English in the community college [basically high school English] the cap was 16 students and two instructors. The students got the individualized learning they needed and they were willing participants in their education. In the end, I gave up teaching because the stress wasn't worth it.
Thank you for this.
Excellent reporting. Well one ladies
They didn’t teach at all in my area while the kids was out of school for Covid-19. They just gave out school work online without any resources for the kids or parents to go to. Then was no one to contact when you needed help. The kids are still trying to catch up two years later and the teachers went into the school years like these kids actually knew the work. They didn’t. But the county to the north of us had zoom classes for their kids. The kids could ask questions and get assistance. My daughter wants to homeschool and I’m open to it. I just need resources to do it and I’m looking into that now. My only problem is I work 6am to 6:30 pm so it limits me a lot but I still feel we can do this.
These women get it. Solidarity.👊
3 of the 4 went to college, 2 of the four own a home and have families. But more importantly they think for themselves they are empathetic and confident…and had they had the label of adhd on them in the system they would never be what they are…black children are bearing way more than a diagnosis with a label, for non white children their person is carrying a label that for some must hinder their person, too. I hope I am alive to see the difference this makes in the future for these children. Nice to know the pandemic brought this empowerment to these families…and again I say amen!
Ok I have homeschooled my children from the beginning and it is the best route. Parents when your children tell you homeschool me, ask yourself why, listen to your children. However I strongly belief there’s no systematic racism in the schools. I believe they treat everyone the same, and that is poorly. Schools are Indoctrination camps, conveyor belts if you will. Look into it. I’m Latina and I didn’t send my kids to schools not bc I thought they are racist. No, I didn’t send them bc I wasn’t gonna allow my kids to be indoctrinated to the benefit of the government and bc I wanted them to have a better education. And other reasons. Not everything is about “racism”.
It's different for black males. I'm a conservative independent and CRT drives me up the walls but black males catch it in schools and the justice system later.
@@franny5295 I know black men who differ
Change that is long overdue. I would never send a child to the hell holes called schools. Never.
I think Michele M. was moved by this one... 😄 Some softening of her poker face there, at the end!
Right on
Home schooling has the same inherent risk as private, and in particular, Christian "academies," in that, the preparation for coexistence with those who don't look, or speak, or believe as you do, is one of the most important parts of the public school experience. I grew up in South Carolina, in the most intense period of desegregation, attending Junior High in the suburbs, where Black and brown kids were bussed out from urban Columbia, and, along with first Black teachers i'd experienced in the classroom (and i'll remember, and revere, Mr. Trapp and Mr. Robinson long after most of the white teachers i had then,) the initial exposure to, and learning from, sharing classroom, gym, band, etc. with a diverse student body rapidly yielded a sense that it was the parents who were up in arms about integration - not us kids. When it came time for High school, the mechanism flipped - suburban kids were bussed into downtown Columbia, to an old brick building blocks away form the Statehouse, and on the opposite corner of First Baptist Church, where the Articles of Secession were signed by Confederacy’s founders. That experience was invaluable, shaping the balance of my life and mindset, as it laid bare the irrelevance and invalidity of the South's history of and economy and society rooted in chattel slavery. Granted, the focus on education eroded, as the same lack of acceptance by white parents, and the perceived empowerment of their kids, whose resentment they felt was justified, awoke me to the fatal attraction of willful ignorance, and the siren song clinging to untruths across generations, and i sought out an early entrance College in NC, and bailed on the turmoil that distracted from edification, for too many kids. The upshot of this upraising? Moved to California before i was 21, enthralled to experience more diversity than i'd ever imagined. Two years later, fell in love with, and began a 14-year relationship with, a Black woman, who was educated, wordly, and talented in many ways. Her parents were from the South, too, yet half her siblings married people with less melanin than they, some from Japan or Europe. They been raised to love, not to "other," and their lives, like mine, were richer for embracing difference, and gaining appreciation for unfamiliar family traditions and cultural histories.
Truth be told, i still like "Jubilee Day," as it _is_ the most righteous cause for celebration - and hope for becoming citizens of the World, unfettered from the terrible past that created so much suffering, to engender an inclusive, multicultural future, mindful of the crippling, toxic influence of irrational discrimination.
Fix schools, rather than fleeing community, as the latter isn't a choice - it's an imperative.
In public school you learn to fit in. Certain pecking orders persist. Not fitting in can kill you. You're biased against home school, and so that cheerleader and football team run society seems okay to you.
are there any black families in nyc present here ?
Its not "staggering" enough. Needs to be 100% increase year over year, until all of our children rec 'adequate' education based on facts not fiction/popular opinion.
Well, the parents are also choosing Afrocentric schools, private schools, home school co-ops, charter schools, religious schools, and Montessori schools.
Wow!
Thank you for this resource
Omgoodness! 80% of the teachers are white women?🙄
But of all those Black teachers laid off from Chicago's 50 CLOSED SCHOOLS surely not teaching in mixed or white schools.
Thankfully these parents are showing the way to our youth who deserve nothing less than the best.
Bravo! To all of these families, my hats off to you!👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
We need more minorities to become teachers. When I was teaching in elementary in the Midwest the majority were white women and a handful of white men [men often will not teach in K-6 because people are suspicious of a men working with young children!]
The black parent did not address single mothers in the black community. That is part of the economic problem in the black community.
We gave up desegregating schools, so I don’t know why the “experts” would be surprised. Homeschooling is an amazing option for those that flourish in it, but I hope we can continue to try and fix the school systems for parents incapable of providing that for their kids.
School sucks for a lot of white kids to. Is there any way to have these conversations without so much division
I truly get where you are coming from and that is my greatest hope one day.
If I may share a thought. I was listening to a conversation around a new app called Black People Eats. This app was birthed from an idea to help black owned restaurants gain more exposure and help them network to grow their businesses. Prior, it wasn't happening for whatever reasons existed. Additionally during the pandemic, most black owned restaurants were left out of bailouts and the stimulus packages, as were many small businesses. We, as Black Americans also pay taxes and yet when it comes to government backed loans and bailouts, it seems there is nothing available for most minority owned businesses. So the same owner of the app started a gofundme for Black owned restaurants, raised a nice amount money and shared it equally amongst the restaurants participating in the app. These efforts, combined, created a new company, raised the awareness of these businesses, increased their profits and helped them to survive the pandemic.
The response to these efforts was accusations of segregation and reverse racism and whataboutism. What if we call something White People eats.
Racism and division contributed to creating the need. We can't blame it if it is used to create solutions IMHO.
There is overlap in the list of reasons school can suck for white and black children but racism is absolutely on the list for black and other non-white children. Racism has to be addressed, this elephant won't go away on its own. The focus on this story was the rise in home-schooling in non-white families so if racism in schools is one of the reasons, it has to be discussed. I do think that given more time that other issues that are common to all parents who homeschool would be brought up. Why do you feel it's divisive to bring up racism if that is what they experienced? I am asking sincerely, that's not a gotcha question. There is much that we all have in common but we can't ignore our differences. We need to listen to each other.
@@maryinsanfrancisco I agree. If racism is the cause of the problems then it is natural that it contributes to solutions that mitigate the problems.
Yes, the conversation is everywhere for White people. I suggest you start with Jordan Almanzar's TH-cam videos. This video is specifically about race. It was not created to exclude you.
Well done ladies,that should have read
so underviewed
Idk why the interviewer is questioning their funding because conservatives help out. Guess what? Conservatives homeschool their kids too and have been talking about this for a long time. The interviewer's reasoning didn't even make sense. Conservatives are trying to break the teachers union because they give to democrats AND trying to get black kids out of public schools so that's why they fund black homeschool groups? First of all many conservatives are not white, And what would they gain by getting black kids out of public schools. They clearly think public schools are not the best deal for a lot of kids because they don't send their kids to them either.
That point from the interviewer angered me so much. My husband and I are black moderates and have homeschooled our 5 children for 10 years. We would never send them back to public or private schools because we know a student becomes like his teacher, and we want to be their most influential teacher.
We couldn't care less if a good idea comes from a Dem or a Rep. We want laws that both protect our freedom as a family and also benefit society. How insulting to think our life choices should be shaped by which political party backs it.
Inspiring.
So admire these ladies V difficult to home school, don’t think I could have done I. Is de vos still in her job … doing nothing
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The demeaning attitude of some colonist descendants towards self-empowered minorities able to positively impact the world is harrowing.
I do not blame them!!!! COVID!!!-
Some black families are Israelites from thetibe of judah.
My biggest concern is abuse. I've worked on casas where homeschooled children were beat and raped - especially religiously-based curriculum like Bill Gothard garbage. How frequently should police check on kids? I'd say weekly, at least.
First 5 seconds: DIDN’T EVERYONE HAVE THWOR KIDS AT HOME FOR HOME SCHOOLING THESE PAST 12 MONTHS!?
Silly Statistic to lead with.
No. All the kids in my school district were online. The teachers were doing the schooling, with the district's curriculum. That's not home schooling any more than holding class on the grass is wilderness survival.
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