I like this angle a lot for strategic adjustments or finding shot selection patterns for myself and the opponent. The drawback is it cuts the vertical height so if you are trying to judge your technique maybe for drops/drives, you cannot really see the ball too well in terms of whether the opponent can attack it or not at the net, or for returns if you need a little more loft or not. If the camera is a foot or two above head height it does better on reading the ball but the bodies will block the path of the ball. If the camera is angled at the corners, it will make it difficult the judge the speed of the ball on film. Having the top view with the combo of a NVZ cam is the best, just a lot of extra work.
Was literally just researching the pocket 3 tonight for recording pickleball and you post a video on it! This is such a great set up, hadn’t thought of combining it with the swing stick. Love your videos. Been a great resource as I try to get into competitive pickleball. You’re right about singles. I just played my first singles tourney Friday and it was a blast! Wish more tournaments offered it.
It’s a great camera! I highly recommend it. Super intuitive to use and the quality is incredible for the size and price. I’m always shook when I find out how good tech is these days.
Biggest issue here is errors. Both players are trying wayyy too hard on shots. Singles is fundamentally a game of keep-away; you'd be surprised how effective it is just keep your opponent moving around the court and in an unstable position.
@ed do you know of any tripod or mechanism to get this good of a high view angle if you don’t have a fence behind you? Needs to be something that isn’t gonna fall over in the wind and shatter my phone though.
Yeah that was my issue before too… I’ve tried tripods but those take up a lot of space. Then I tried monopods but those don’t go high enough and I’ve had multiple phones and cameras fall and smash :( If there’s no fence behind you and you have a lot of space… probably just a tripod will be best.
@@CohenAcademy neewer heavy duty light stand 10 ft on amazon, not too expensive and very sturdy wide base, i use it with the pocket 3 and ulanzi f38 quick release plate and it is an amazing setup
I have mine hooked up about 3 feet above the fence, so I would estimate about 15 feet high. I think 10 feet is definitely high enough to achieve this top-down look.
Just my recommendation but in singles don’t fire your returns back to hard bc that eats up all your time advancing to the line bc the ball will come back that much quicker hit more deep floaters. In doubles you can bc your partner is already at the line but singles you can get eaten up hitting your returns to hard to often. Good stuff 👍👍
I think something really good would be sort of instead of having the mic on you, you could have it somewhere on the court to better capture the sound of the paddles and ball and stuff.
PPA tour mics it up at the net. You can net chords really well but not so much the players. I thought about mic'ing up my opponent as well, but it might be too jarring to hear so much grunting?
I wouldn’t say a negative reputation, but I think a lot of people stray away from it because it can be intimidating and more taxing on the body. I’m starting to dabble more into it as a way to train, but I’m also finding it to be more enjoyable as I improve.
Great video, I personally love singles more than doubles, the pressure is all on me
I do love the feeling of testing what my capabilities are! Singles puts all the spotlight on you
I like this angle a lot for strategic adjustments or finding shot selection patterns for myself and the opponent. The drawback is it cuts the vertical height so if you are trying to judge your technique maybe for drops/drives, you cannot really see the ball too well in terms of whether the opponent can attack it or not at the net, or for returns if you need a little more loft or not. If the camera is a foot or two above head height it does better on reading the ball but the bodies will block the path of the ball. If the camera is angled at the corners, it will make it difficult the judge the speed of the ball on film. Having the top view with the combo of a NVZ cam is the best, just a lot of extra work.
True, I think I can lower the angle a touch. For filming doubles games, I’ll add another camera angle from the side to capture dinking rallies.
Props to Ryan for sporting the 80's metal band hair, let's go!
He’s a pretty rad guy 😎
Was literally just researching the pocket 3 tonight for recording pickleball and you post a video on it! This is such a great set up, hadn’t thought of combining it with the swing stick.
Love your videos. Been a great resource as I try to get into competitive pickleball. You’re right about singles. I just played my first singles tourney Friday and it was a blast! Wish more tournaments offered it.
It’s a great camera! I highly recommend it. Super intuitive to use and the quality is incredible for the size and price. I’m always shook when I find out how good tech is these days.
Swingvision is totally worth it. I love it
It’s great! I’ve learned a lot from studying my own games with it.
"I can feel my dinner rattling in my stomach." Yep that's singles.
Never playing singles after dinner again 😂
Sweet setup!
🙌🏼🔥
Biggest issue here is errors. Both players are trying wayyy too hard on shots. Singles is fundamentally a game of keep-away; you'd be surprised how effective it is just keep your opponent moving around the court and in an unstable position.
100% sure they’re way better than you
Perhaps! It’s always easier said than done :)
singles is the best for footwork!
🦶 💨
@edju is Swing Vision not great using just an iPhone along with the swing stick on a fence? Thanks for another great video. :)
What paddle are you using?
@ed do you know of any tripod or mechanism to get this good of a high view angle if you don’t have a fence behind you? Needs to be something that isn’t gonna fall over in the wind and shatter my phone though.
Yeah that was my issue before too… I’ve tried tripods but those take up a lot of space. Then I tried monopods but those don’t go high enough and I’ve had multiple phones and cameras fall and smash :(
If there’s no fence behind you and you have a lot of space… probably just a tripod will be best.
@@edjupickleball I need a tripod with like an anchor into the ground lol. So depressing to smash a phone like that. Did it in APP Punta Gorda
@@CohenAcademy neewer heavy duty light stand 10 ft on amazon, not too expensive and very sturdy wide base, i use it with the pocket 3 and ulanzi f38 quick release plate and it is an amazing setup
Hit more balls: Get better at hitting balls. Great for movement too, love some singles, glad you started playing.
Yup! Great for getting tons of touches
How high up do you think the camera is? I just ordered the pocket 3 and a 10ft light stand and was wondering if that is enough
I have mine hooked up about 3 feet above the fence, so I would estimate about 15 feet high. I think 10 feet is definitely high enough to achieve this top-down look.
Whats your dupr?
its hard on me but i like it for practicing hero shots 😅
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Just my recommendation but in singles don’t fire your returns back to hard bc that eats up all your time advancing to the line bc the ball will come back that much quicker hit more deep floaters. In doubles you can bc your partner is already at the line but singles you can get eaten up hitting your returns to hard to often. Good stuff 👍👍
Depth is key for sure!
I think something really good would be sort of instead of having the mic on you, you could have it somewhere on the court to better capture the sound of the paddles and ball and stuff.
PPA tour mics it up at the net. You can net chords really well but not so much the players. I thought about mic'ing up my opponent as well, but it might be too jarring to hear so much grunting?
Singles rules hate doubles
Doubles are fun but singles are awesome
@peterstedman6140 well said
Edit: what Pete said
Serve and volley?? Y'all playing with special rules
Why "actually" fun? Does singles have some kind of negative reputation to it?
I wouldn’t say a negative reputation, but I think a lot of people stray away from it because it can be intimidating and more taxing on the body. I’m starting to dabble more into it as a way to train, but I’m also finding it to be more enjoyable as I improve.
@@edjupickleball Got it. I personally love singles! It feels more free in terms of skill expression, whereas doubles is more pattern recognition.
lol 100% swing and grunt with every hit…. Really?! Don’t be that guy….
What kind of guy should I be? 🙃