These videos is for ortho and maxilofacial surgeon, this a master class totally free to how put mse correctly and dont fuck it up. Thanks Dr. Ting and Ronald
I live in Phoenix. I plan on calling Dr Ting’s office for initial consult! His logic makes total sense. I hope I can figure-out how to make the 12 hour Round trip drive work for me. EXCELLENT VIDEOS. THANKS TO BOTH OF YOU! 🙏
@@user-03-gsa3 , I went to see dr Ting for consult. Then I went to see the surgeon that he tends to work-with. I think I just didn’t have the right experience with the surgeon, so it halted my desire to continue for a bit. I’ve been researching the entire time though. I’m between Dr Ting and Dr Li at this time. I think Dr Ting now uses a piezoelectric device to help with gaining a palatal split. Dr Li uses endoscopic surgery to gain an immediate split. Dr Li appears to be more expensive. But, intend to not see as much diastema with Dr Li. Maybe that’s because most of the space gain is at the posterior. Still gaining info. Im trying to set up new consult with dr Ting. It’s hard to decide which direction to go.
Ron... I want to share that posture is the primary fix. My experience is that, the entire skeletal and muscular body compensates and adjusts itself to compensate for any jaw misalignment. And years of this makes us think we are aligned as we open to look at our jaw. If we fix jaw where it is, we are changing structure to make it look symmetrical in a mirror. But in a holistic way, it’s not really symmetrical, or the most optimal jaw structure. Many months/years of posture correcting is needed before seeing what the original misalignment is. Then we know how to mew in a tongue balanced way and also will show us the right kind of orthodontic procedures to follow. Peace and love
Interesting take. Some of us in the Orthotropics community get so fixated on our craniofacial structures and maxillas, knowing they are connected with a cure for so many ailments, that we forget to think of the rest of the body as a system. You've got to correct the body not just from the top down but from the ground up.
I think you've got that exactly backwards. The cranium is where torsions like you're describing originate and propagate throughout the rest of the body. Many people try very hard to fix their posture to fix those problems (and no one can ever agree on how it ought to be done) but many people have mewed for not even that long and become visibly more symmetrical. I have, and pretty much all my friends who are mewing have.
@@danielleholland2143 you're right. A holistic approach needs to be taken when addressing this, but many can't wait for years for this to happen.. After 20 or 30+ years of incorrect overall and jaw posture, we need atleast invest some years in to bringing the skeleton back to correct (or as close to) alignment. Yoga based postures (iyengar medical yoga) are best, as this sends the tongue into where its supposed to push, rather than us investing time only into mewing. But knowing the dynamics and how to's of mewing is helpful. Then compliment with whatever orthodontic procedures. @grimartificial please see this response as addressing your input as well. Peace to y'all
@@grimartificial please see response to Danielle above/below. According to my knowledge, the spinal column may compensate , mainly cervical spine (and other) to adjust the skeletal structure accordingly. Even hip adjustment, shoulders or ankle bone realignment could improve how symmetrically and with how much forces the tongue would mew up..
Thank you so much for the work you do JawHacks! I would love if perhaps at the end of these interviews or in the description there could be a sort of “conclusion” or summary because sometimes I get lost and confused and don’t totally understand what these experts are saying.
At 3:55 Dr Ting says “if I can correct anything orthodontically” (before surgery...it’s preferred) I think he’s selling himself short. He’s actually correcting things “orthopedically” 😉👍
My profiles look quite different. On my left side, my jaws are less forward compared to my right side. Can MSE address this sort of asymmetry or is surgery better in this case?
after time, yes. cause the whole body would be symmetric, of course that u would need to get everything right by tongue, closed mouth, swallowing, etc. but at least now the posture is corrected, which is a big thing.
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These videos is for ortho and maxilofacial surgeon, this a master class totally free to how put mse correctly and dont fuck it up. Thanks Dr. Ting and Ronald
I live in Phoenix. I plan on calling Dr Ting’s office for initial consult! His logic makes total sense. I hope I can figure-out how to make the 12 hour Round trip drive work for me.
EXCELLENT VIDEOS. THANKS TO BOTH OF YOU! 🙏
Any updates sir? Did you undergo MSE treatment?
@@user-03-gsa3 , I went to see dr Ting for consult. Then I went to see the surgeon that he tends to work-with. I think I just didn’t have the right experience with the surgeon, so it halted my desire to continue for a bit. I’ve been researching the entire time though. I’m between Dr Ting and Dr Li at this time.
I think Dr Ting now uses a piezoelectric device to help with gaining a palatal split. Dr Li uses endoscopic surgery to gain an immediate split. Dr Li appears to be more expensive. But, intend to not see as much diastema with Dr Li. Maybe that’s because most of the space gain is at the posterior. Still gaining info. Im trying to set up new consult with dr Ting. It’s hard to decide which direction to go.
Really great interview! Looking forward to seeing an interview with Dr. Vaughan if you can get him on the channel. :)
Ron... I want to share that posture is the primary fix. My experience is that, the entire skeletal and muscular body compensates and adjusts itself to compensate for any jaw misalignment. And years of this makes us think we are aligned as we open to look at our jaw. If we fix jaw where it is, we are changing structure to make it look symmetrical in a mirror. But in a holistic way, it’s not really symmetrical, or the most optimal jaw structure. Many months/years of posture correcting is needed before seeing what the original misalignment is. Then we know how to mew in a tongue balanced way and also will show us the right kind of orthodontic procedures to follow. Peace and love
Interesting take. Some of us in the Orthotropics community get so fixated on our craniofacial structures and maxillas, knowing they are connected with a cure for so many ailments, that we forget to think of the rest of the body as a system. You've got to correct the body not just from the top down but from the ground up.
I think you've got that exactly backwards. The cranium is where torsions like you're describing originate and propagate throughout the rest of the body. Many people try very hard to fix their posture to fix those problems (and no one can ever agree on how it ought to be done) but many people have mewed for not even that long and become visibly more symmetrical. I have, and pretty much all my friends who are mewing have.
@@danielleholland2143 you're right. A holistic approach needs to be taken when addressing this, but many can't wait for years for this to happen.. After 20 or 30+ years of incorrect overall and jaw posture, we need atleast invest some years in to bringing the skeleton back to correct (or as close to) alignment. Yoga based postures (iyengar medical yoga) are best, as this sends the tongue into where its supposed to push, rather than us investing time only into mewing. But knowing the dynamics and how to's of mewing is helpful. Then compliment with whatever orthodontic procedures. @grimartificial please see this response as addressing your input as well. Peace to y'all
@@grimartificial please see response to Danielle above/below. According to my knowledge, the spinal column may compensate , mainly cervical spine (and other) to adjust the skeletal structure accordingly. Even hip adjustment, shoulders or ankle bone realignment could improve how symmetrically and with how much forces the tongue would mew up..
I should mention that I mentioned this hypothesis and opinion, for mainly adults..
Damn I wish there was someone so experienced with the mse in Australia. Fantastic interview series thankyou Ron !
There's Dr Derek Mahony. But, I'm not sure if he would be able to answer all of your questions.
Thank you so much for the work you do JawHacks! I would love if perhaps at the end of these interviews or in the description there could be a sort of “conclusion” or summary because sometimes I get lost and confused and don’t totally understand what these experts are saying.
Thanks Ron
Justin Bonnici thanks Billy
Ron, but didn't you have asymmetric expansion where one half of the maxilla was expanded more than the other half?
At 3:55 Dr Ting says “if I can correct anything orthodontically” (before surgery...it’s preferred)
I think he’s selling himself short. He’s actually correcting things “orthopedically” 😉👍
i need someone like Dr.Ting in Germany 😭💕
And me in France ! 😭
and me in brazil :/
canada
India😔
Ik my assymetry is partly due to my cant but how do I know I don't have an uneven maxilla either?
My profiles look quite different. On my left side, my jaws are less forward compared to my right side. Can MSE address this sort of asymmetry or is surgery better in this case?
Will back surgery like scoliosis fix asymmetry in the Maxilla?
after time, yes. cause the whole body would be symmetric, of course that u would need to get everything right by tongue, closed mouth, swallowing, etc. but at least now the posture is corrected, which is a big thing.
@@be246 why would be back surgery fix asymmetry in maxilla?
Thank you
Do you still have your wisdom teeth ?
What are those side effects he is talking about ?
I want to know the same