As per the video, earlier samurai would probably not use a gun, but sengoku era samurai would use a rifle to win no matter what, regardless if it was honorable or not.
Hollywood loves to perpetuate myths about Samurai refusing to use guns, but any warrior knows that superior equipment can make a huge difference in combat
Bushido was a concept invented after the Sengoku Jidai. Mere years later during the Edo period during the era of peace and romanticization just like Chivalry was when Knights stopped being prominent on battlefields.
We literally had cowboys when there was samurai. Would've loved a cowboy samurai. Has to look stupid tho. Cowboy hat with a oni mask. Has a lasso on his belt, two Smith and Wessons in his holsters. A matchlock on his back. And a idachi on his right waist with his tanto on his lower back. " For the shogun.... YEEEHAW"
@@KayoLao nah nah imagine a full samurai armor, covered in cow tan, with a Winchester, doing duel in the middle of a saloon with sake instead of rhum and tumbleweeds flying around.
Weeb: "I refuse to dishonor the Samurai of Japan! I will only ever fight with an Uchigatana or Nodachi, no matter what my opponent may use as a weapon!" Real Samurai: "Or just use a gun...?"
they will shit themselves when they see 19th century pictures. Revolvers became more and more common so a lot of them were walking around with revolvers, western clothes and katana.
Some random guy breaks into my house and so i grab my tanegashima as the dutch merchants intended then i blow a golf ball sized hole through the first ones chest
since it would take to long to reload it, i then go into guerrilla warfare and grab my naginata and strap my katana to my hip, seeing as i have the home field advantage my chances increase
@@deathwatch0099 then I would charge the last man down the hall screaming with katana on hand then cut the last man to piecies leaving large stab wounds and wounds that are deep and fatal enough! *Police arrives* Ah! Just as the dutch merchants inteded!
@@deathwatch0099 after hiding in the middle of my house with a nice garden another sneaks by and so i skewer him fully with my naginata and twist to ensure he's dead but it will take to long to dislodge the spear before the third comes by so i grab my katana and prepare
@@deathwatch0099 the good thing about an arquebus is, once you have blown a hole into your first opponent, you can turn the weapon and smash the head of the next one. A bit difficult with a japanese one, but with an european one it is easy.
Funnily enough, I remember reading somewhere that the Samurai wished you could shoot a gun multiple times before reloading. Given the existence of revolving firearms even during the Matchlock era, I think this kind of desire was universally held by everyone during the existence of guns.
Honor... what is Honor? For samurai honor was to bring victories and glory to their Daimyo, no matter what you have to do. Do guns kill more people, or route an entire army? Therefore we will use them and our lord will be glorious.
@@drivernephi5587 yo shut ur fucken mouth dawg, i dont give a shit if its a black powder weapon, a normal gun, or a fucken home made .22, a rifle is a rifle and you understand that most people use rifle interchangeably with literally any weapon that uses a powder charge to propel a projectile out of a long barrel. On the range both will be called a rifle just for the sake of convenience. In tests and documents however if different, but common sense dictates that both a rifle and a black powder gun with be called a rifle for the sake of who gives a fuck
I think this comes from a misunderstanding of how samurais viewed honour. Honour, to a samurai, was serving your lord, being loyal to him, and bringing him victory, wealth, land and glory. Protecting your lord, massacring his enemies, and dedicating your life to serving his house. _That's_ samurai honour.
I remember seeing an wiki article where there was a whole “battalion” (around a 100 or so) of female musketeers in the warring states period, I forgot their name though :(
Bushi onna, a hundred of them??? Holding guns??? I've heard few cases of samurai women going Jeanne d'arc, but I've never heard of Japanese Jeanne d'arc's with guns
@@shanedoesyoutube8001 possible of the Li clan. At one time they were almost out of men because of a defeat. I don't know anymore if it was against Imagawa or Takeda but that's not important. The female Daimyo of the Clan led the women into battle and had won. She ruled the clan until her son was old enough and than went into a monastry to become a nun. During her rule she had accepted Oda Nobunaga as liege Lord to prevent being annihilated by the Oda and to have a protector for the weakened clan. Her son became an important general of the oda and later of the Tokugawa and the Li became one of the most important clans of the Tokugawa Shogunate.
This battalion was commanded by Ikeda Sen, a female samurai who served the famous Oda Nobunaga and Toyotomi Hideyoshi. She participated in the Battle of Shizugatake and Komaki-Nagakute leading 200 women armed with tanegashima
Okay do not dishonor yourself with a musket and draw your sword, I’ll dishonor myself with my musket and live to fight another day!! I’ll also go home to your wife tonight you honorable warrior you.
Imagine time travelling to the warring periods of ancient Japan and expecting fights with Katanas but instead you get infantry lined to perform a volley.
Hollywood: There is a saying here in Amurica "A pen is mightier than the sword" so it's only natural for the Samoorai to use their Japanese Samurai Swords. Real Samurai: I believe in the saying "Whoever said the pen is mightier than the sword obviously never encountered automatic weapons." Now, bring out the guns.
Imagine being a samurai and one day your master or lord summons you and says - "We have a new way, much deadlier than the blade" - and he just pulls out a glock
And then they'll go on their way to carve ornaments on the glock so it can be pass down to their descendants. Can you imagine the kind of art and gold leaf they'll carve on a Glock
During the Boshin War, samurai joined both sides of the war since they saw it as a good way to have personal gain or a way to actually see fighting in their samurai life. Even the last samurai, Saigo Takamori, was on the imperial side.
Anime, movies and shows depicting Samurai opinions on swords: An elegant weapon, from a more civilized age. Actual Samurai the time guns were introduced to them: Freedom is the only way!
The earliest large scale conflict fought with firearms is the 3 way Japanese civil war.Firearms were removed from the battlefield on paper during the years of following peace due to the overwhelming number of deaths
Although you do have to think about the fact that they started useing guns whenever they were still more effective than bow and arrows so they used the guns just they warrant as effective close range
funny enough the top two weapons on that weapons wrack aren't battlefield weapons but law enforcement weapons/tools. primary use was to catch criminals by using the barbs to hook their clothes or pin their limbs. We still today use a modern variant that has no barbs or blades.
Swords and samurai were a romanticized fiction. Musashi, the Sword Saint, was born well after Nobunaga and his subsequent heirs had united the country under the gun.
They were brought originally by portuguese traders, but then they started producing their own. The matchlocks were of at least equal quality to European made ones and they were really widely used even to the end of the samurai. The real guy that inspired the movie “the last samurai”, was more of a guerrilla fighter and his troops used modern weapons when they could.
Pretty sure they did when Edo rolled around, but even then, who gave a fuk about that??? Granted, at least there was no longer any *major* case of the sengoku period fuelling up
Another myth about the "honor" bit. Leaders sometimes switched sides (even on the battlefield) if it was more advantageous to them personally or their (family)group.
In the early day, they refused to do, but after Nobunaga oda with small number of soldier claim victory against many clan with huge amount of soldier, it's become common use
From what I've read there were initially plenty of samurai and daimyo who found the use of firearms distasteful and brushed the weapons off. They then got shot to pieces by the samurai who thought "these 'gun' things kick ass." In pretty short order.
Because they are loyal to their Lord. Not the weapon. But also they pay respects to katana as tools. It based on minds of 神道(shinto). And Samurai proud themselves how they master the weapon not what they use.
I love when people try to claim Samurai wouldn't use guns, they literally had them in Japan for 200+ years before the west had even started messing with them.
What I know guns commonly used by soldiers not samurai. They keep their faith by using sword. So in the battlefield, soldiers with riffle will be in the first row then samurai in the second row.
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Weebs: samurais would never dishonor themselves with a gun!
The samurai cleaning his gun: fuck is that kid on about?
Ever since I found out Samurais used guns..just the irony of it is why I keep bringing it up to people
As per the video, earlier samurai would probably not use a gun, but sengoku era samurai would use a rifle to win no matter what, regardless if it was honorable or not.
Weed: , samurai would use his chai to engage the enemy
Real samurai: what in the fuck is this guy saying
@@silverbloodborne9495 hmm yes, *weed*
@@VoidedEmptiness the earlier samurai not using gun more likely because gun didn't arrive in Japan yet
Hollywood loves to perpetuate myths about Samurai refusing to use guns, but any warrior knows that superior equipment can make a huge difference in combat
True very true
Not just any warrior. Anyone with common sense!
Tom cruise..Last samurai is an example
Samurajs were barely warriors. The peasants and other low class beeing the front lines are the real heroes.
@@TheBurnknight In Sengoku Jidai. Samurais were in the frontline.
As Oda Nobunaga said, "Bushido is strong, but guns are stronger." !
Bushido, during the Sengoku Jidai, is the way of giving victory to your lord.
Bushido is strong because it includes the use of ALL weapons including guns
They aren't mutually exclusive.
Bushido was a concept invented after the Sengoku Jidai. Mere years later during the Edo period during the era of peace and romanticization just like Chivalry was when Knights stopped being prominent on battlefields.
Did he really said that?
Fun fact: Samurai loves S&W revolvers.
Yes and no
Nooooo you must prove yourself in a masterful display of kenjutsu with honor and dignity!!
*Haha cylinder on Unosuke's Model 2 goes brrrrr*
We literally had cowboys when there was samurai. Would've loved a cowboy samurai. Has to look stupid tho. Cowboy hat with a oni mask. Has a lasso on his belt, two Smith and Wessons in his holsters. A matchlock on his back. And a idachi on his right waist with his tanto on his lower back. " For the shogun.... YEEEHAW"
@@KayoLao nah nah imagine a full samurai armor, covered in cow tan, with a Winchester, doing duel in the middle of a saloon with sake instead of rhum and tumbleweeds flying around.
@@saintture7952 hell yeah with assless chaps because he's fresh off the boat and doesn't fully know the American way 🤣
Weeb: "I refuse to dishonor the Samurai of Japan! I will only ever fight with an Uchigatana or Nodachi, no matter what my opponent may use as a weapon!"
Real Samurai: "Or just use a gun...?"
they will shit themselves when they see 19th century pictures.
Revolvers became more and more common so a lot of them were walking around with revolvers, western clothes and katana.
Yeah.
Weeb: "Samurai never kill from behind, i will always challenge to a duel my opponent!"
Samurai: "I mastered Metal Gear Solid"
@@kokomello2858 ghost of Tsushima be like
I like the image of a Samurai Worrier whipping out a Glock to deal with the enemy.
You have years of experience in the battlefield until someone pulls out a Glock
Parry this you filthy casual
Glock? Try a type 99 LMG. More fancy then a plastic toy
That's cheating 💀
That's isshin the glock-saint
Some random guy breaks into my house and so i grab my tanegashima as the dutch merchants intended then i blow a golf ball sized hole through the first ones chest
since it would take to long to reload it, i then go into guerrilla warfare and grab my naginata and strap my katana to my hip, seeing as i have the home field advantage my chances increase
@@deathwatch0099 then I would charge the last man down the hall screaming with katana on hand then cut the last man to piecies leaving large stab wounds and wounds that are deep and fatal enough!
*Police arrives*
Ah! Just as the dutch merchants inteded!
@@deathwatch0099 after hiding in the middle of my house with a nice garden another sneaks by and so i skewer him fully with my naginata and twist to ensure he's dead but it will take to long to dislodge the spear before the third comes by so i grab my katana and prepare
@@deathwatch0099 the good thing about an arquebus is, once you have blown a hole into your first opponent, you can turn the weapon and smash the head of the next one.
A bit difficult with a japanese one, but with an european one it is easy.
Funnily enough, I remember reading somewhere that the Samurai wished you could shoot a gun multiple times before reloading. Given the existence of revolving firearms even during the Matchlock era, I think this kind of desire was universally held by everyone during the existence of guns.
"I see that you are an expert in the art of swords, but can you parry this?" *Pulls out a gun.*
Parry it? No...but you better hope you can hit me with your one shot.
"PARRY THIS YOU FUCKING CASUAL"
*Pull out colt python*
* brings out MP 40 *
@@ProbablyNotSomethingImportant*Pulls out MG 42*
Weebs: "Bu- But the honor of Sam- Samurai! "
Samurais: "This pew pew tube can kill so many peasants. And I f*cking love it."
Honor... what is Honor?
For samurai honor was to bring victories and glory to their Daimyo, no matter what you have to do.
Do guns kill more people, or route an entire army? Therefore we will use them and our lord will be glorious.
That aggression is misguided. Weebs don't say that.
I think it's less pew pew and more boom boom
Weebs and Hollywood: GUNS ARE DISHONUHHHH
Actual Samurai: So I taught the Ashigaru how to shoot faster
Nah just Hollywood BS Weebs know that samurai love their guns with shi tons of shows and manga depicting the samurais with muskets.
true, those weebs are something else
それでもやはりリロードには時間がかかったので、銃撃の合間に「防ぎ矢」と呼ばれる弓兵隊が敵の接近を防いでいました。
"Victory wipes away dishonor"
Samurai : Daym I don't feel like putting any effort in today...
Lord : Go kill this guy.
Samurai : Fuck it. Gun time
I find it funny how weebs say "a samurai would never dishonor themselves with a gun" bro, a samurai would kick you in the nuts to win
Much like a knight, honour is secondary to victory, so they will definitely kick you in the dick if it means winning. War is no place for honour.
"Victory wipes away dishonor."
-Total war shogun 2
Otomo moment
@@mohammadsadisanjaya1121 "Nice wall"
-Otomo and his cannons.
Are Tangeshima/Teppo's smoothbore muskets or rifled ones? Im quite curious
They are smooth bore muskets.
@@samuraininjamuseumkyotofan2701 Then you are incorrect at calling them rifles.
@@drivernephi5587 yo shut ur fucken mouth dawg, i dont give a shit if its a black powder weapon, a normal gun, or a fucken home made .22, a rifle is a rifle and you understand that most people use rifle interchangeably with literally any weapon that uses a powder charge to propel a projectile out of a long barrel. On the range both will be called a rifle just for the sake of convenience. In tests and documents however if different, but common sense dictates that both a rifle and a black powder gun with be called a rifle for the sake of who gives a fuck
@@samuraininjamuseumkyotofan2701 are they heavy as heck or are they just heavy?
@@Reyfan601 as heavy as any smooth bore muskets
Imagining full armored samurai holding a tanegashima reminds me of that parry this DS meme
The Katana is thee last thing a samurai would use. When Mans got his Katana out, that means he’s ready to Die.
I think this comes from a misunderstanding of how samurais viewed honour. Honour, to a samurai, was serving your lord, being loyal to him, and bringing him victory, wealth, land and glory. Protecting your lord, massacring his enemies, and dedicating your life to serving his house. _That's_ samurai honour.
Granted, the Edo period was what defined samurai views to everyone else in the first place
I remember seeing an wiki article where there was a whole “battalion” (around a 100 or so) of female musketeers in the warring states period, I forgot their name though :(
Bushi onna, a hundred of them??? Holding guns???
I've heard few cases of samurai women going Jeanne d'arc, but I've never heard of Japanese Jeanne d'arc's with guns
@@shanedoesyoutube8001 it's not a big deal. 100 years of war dude.
@@shanedoesyoutube8001 possible of the Li clan. At one time they were almost out of men because of a defeat. I don't know anymore if it was against Imagawa or Takeda but that's not important.
The female Daimyo of the Clan led the women into battle and had won. She ruled the clan until her son was old enough and than went into a monastry to become a nun.
During her rule she had accepted Oda Nobunaga as liege Lord to prevent being annihilated by the Oda and to have a protector for the weakened clan.
Her son became an important general of the oda and later of the Tokugawa and the Li became one of the most important clans of the Tokugawa Shogunate.
I thought they were mostly trained in naginata.
This battalion was commanded by Ikeda Sen, a female samurai who served the famous Oda Nobunaga and Toyotomi Hideyoshi. She participated in the Battle of Shizugatake and Komaki-Nagakute leading 200 women armed with tanegashima
Samurai: *_Parry this you filthy casual!.._*
Hollywood: Guns are shit for the honor bound warriors of the East.
Oda Nobunaga: Guns go BRRRRRRRRRR
A weapon that kills without honor, but victory brings honor
Love it from whence I first played Shogun 2
I like the symbol the one with the boom boom gun head on his head it reminds me of the funny people
Lmao
How people think samurai thought about guns: I would never dishonor myself with such a tool
How they actually thought: pary this you filthy casual
losing = dishonor
Did he really said that?
Okay do not dishonor yourself with a musket and draw your sword, I’ll dishonor myself with my musket and live to fight another day!! I’ll also go home to your wife tonight you honorable warrior you.
Now they use full automatic rifles
The bow was the primary weapon for the original samurai
Imagine time travelling to the warring periods of ancient Japan and expecting fights with Katanas but instead you get infantry lined to perform a volley.
"*Ah yes, Guns and cannons.*"
-random total war shogun 2 player
Hollywood: Samurais dont use guns right?
Samurai: the fuck do you mean
It's like how civil war soldier would carry pistol
But they would prefer Gatling gun if giving the chance
Weebs: "A samurai would never taint his honor with foreign weapons!"
Oda Nobunaga: "Line up my peasants! Today i will show you the art of camping"
They also did a lot of things most would consider "dishonorable" like kick up sand in fights and attack civilians
musket, not rifle. but even better accurate term would be "arquebus"
I love how I'm learning Japanese history from an Ausie.
Weebs: They’d never dishonour themselves like that!
Actual samurai: Stay strapped or get clapped Guijin
Funny how the literal Total War Shogun 2 taught me all about the Sengoku Jidai and even the Bōshin war.
Hollywood: There is a saying here in Amurica "A pen is mightier than the sword" so it's only natural for the Samoorai to use their Japanese Samurai Swords.
Real Samurai: I believe in the saying "Whoever said the pen is mightier than the sword obviously never encountered automatic weapons." Now, bring out the guns.
"nooo my 13000 strong naginata samurai + bow monk army shouldn't be beatable, this isn't fair!11!!"
"haha 1500 matchlock ashigaru go brr"
They loved spears and guns, and i love spears and guns, so i love the samurai.
Issin the Glock saint has entered the chat
Just like Malay warriors, thy use to think that Keris is the main weapon but no, we already have rifles that time and we do have another weapons too
Imagine being a samurai and one day your master or lord summons you and says - "We have a new way, much deadlier than the blade" - and he just pulls out a glock
the samurai would just go "yes my lord."
And then they'll go on their way to carve ornaments on the glock so it can be pass down to their descendants. Can you imagine the kind of art and gold leaf they'll carve on a Glock
@@minhducnguyen9276 you should check out Glock collectors and enthusiasts... they are absolutely ridiculous.
During the Boshin War, samurai joined both sides of the war since they saw it as a good way to have personal gain or a way to actually see fighting in their samurai life. Even the last samurai, Saigo Takamori, was on the imperial side.
I've always posited that the only thing cooler than a Samurai is a Samurai with a gun.
The Takeda learned the hard way
Thank you for sharing correct concept, too many ppl been effects by manga or westen media
Its fun and games until one of them pull out AK47
The book of five rings actually talks about when to use a bow vs. using a firearm.
This channel deserves more subscribers
Why are there always white guys filling us in on Japanese Samurai Culture ?? Aren’t there any Japanese out there that know their own history??
@@warriorhudson2594 They'll tell you the same thing, everyone knows this
Weeb: using deception and guns is dishonerable!
Samurai: losing is dishonerable.
Anime, movies and shows depicting Samurai opinions on swords: An elegant weapon, from a more civilized age.
Actual Samurai the time guns were introduced to them: Freedom is the only way!
"but this is not the primary weapon"
Me: *_laughs in scottish demo knight_*
Samurai would use anything as a weapon other than their katana.
I have an english translation of the korean manual of historical martial arts and it said in there that samurai were highly skilled riflemen.
Tanegashima is a matchlock musket, it's not a rifle
The otomo mains of total war samurai 2: PRAISE GOD AND GUNS!
Our general is in grave danger my lord
my cousin always thought a tanto was just a cut naginata, when he found out it wasn't he started to hold in his tears
"The naginata is the perfect weapon for a battlefield"
Gun and bow on the rack: "are we a joke to you??"
Yeah just like Isshin the Glock Saint
Fun fact the gun at the end is called ozutsu. Its basically a handheld cannon.
in mgs, tanegashima is so op it can summon tornado
Everybody a samurai until actual samurais lay siege to your city using Portuguese-made cannons.
If I was a samurai I’d barley use my katana aswell, I ain’t fuckin up my blade when I got the MK1 Glock 😂
Thank the Portuguese.
Goodness that was one thick ass rifle look like something out of one piece
The earliest large scale conflict fought with firearms is the 3 way Japanese civil war.Firearms were removed from the battlefield on paper during the years of following peace due to the overwhelming number of deaths
A musket is not a rifle, I wouldn't expect a European to know that
who would you expect to know that, a chinese dude ? they created firearms, i wouldn't expect an american to know that though
@@mysalsa7963 we're too busy knowing how much better off than Europe we are, everyone worth anything came over here already.
Weeb: I have a Katana!
Samurai: RATATATATATATA
Although you do have to think about the fact that they started useing guns whenever they were still more effective than bow and arrows so they used the guns just they warrant as effective close range
Yes they used rifles once they were introduced to them during the mid 50s of the 19th century.
Before that, they used arquebuses.
funny enough the top two weapons on that weapons wrack aren't battlefield weapons but law enforcement weapons/tools. primary use was to catch criminals by using the barbs to hook their clothes or pin their limbs. We still today use a modern variant that has no barbs or blades.
Swords and samurai were a romanticized fiction. Musashi, the Sword Saint, was born well after Nobunaga and his subsequent heirs had united the country under the gun.
I can just imagine a samurai pulling out an M4💀
Bruh that's like the first person ever on TH-cam shorts who doesn't censor 'rifle' or 'weapon'
Imagine being a New Soldier on a Battle field and an Enemy samurai just comes to you And Shoots you with A DBS loaded with buckshot-
I seriously had No clue that Samurai even had firearms back then lol
They were brought originally by portuguese traders, but then they started producing their own. The matchlocks were of at least equal quality to European made ones and they were really widely used even to the end of the samurai. The real guy that inspired the movie “the last samurai”, was more of a guerrilla fighter and his troops used modern weapons when they could.
@@interestingman7458 kick ass !
Thanx for the response!)
I Love the Japanese culture
tenegashima is only a musket. I would expect enfields, springfields and sniders as samurai's "rifles" which they did use.
Weeb : samurai never dishonor
Samurai real life : here we dont do that ? 🤣🤣
Pretty sure they did when Edo rolled around, but even then, who gave a fuk about that???
Granted, at least there was no longer any *major* case of the sengoku period fuelling up
Another myth about the "honor" bit. Leaders sometimes switched sides (even on the battlefield) if it was more advantageous to them personally or their (family)group.
In the early day, they refused to do, but after Nobunaga oda with small number of soldier claim victory against many clan with huge amount of soldier, it's become common use
From what I've read there were initially plenty of samurai and daimyo who found the use of firearms distasteful and brushed the weapons off. They then got shot to pieces by the samurai who thought "these 'gun' things kick ass." In pretty short order.
They actually used their katanas and muskets pretty effectively together in my opinion.
Enemy: haha i can parry your weapon. It's very easy
The samurai: now PARRY THIS YOU FILTHY CASUAL!
If the samurai were still around, they would lend support to the NRA. They’d be all about the 2nd Amendment.
Is no one gonna about the fact that on first image samurai hold a katana clearly so identical to a rengokus sword?
O sorry maby third image
Battle of Nagashino is a perfect example for that using guns notion. lol
I thought that was a shotgun due to the absence of the refliing.
Last Samurai in a nutshell:
Emperor's side: gun is go Boom Boom
Shogun's side: gun is go Boom Boom
Weeaboo: Guns suck because katanas are cool
Japanese soldier: I believe Arisaka and Howa supremacy
Just like shogun 2 said "Dishonor will be swept aside with victories"
Because they are loyal to their Lord. Not the weapon.
But also they pay respects to katana as tools.
It based on minds of 神道(shinto).
And Samurai proud themselves how they master the weapon not what they use.
I love when people try to claim Samurai wouldn't use guns, they literally had them in Japan for 200+ years before the west had even started messing with them.
Samurai would dishonor themselves however they needed to to get the W. The only shamefur dispray is when you lose.
Not a rifle, but an Arquebus
What I know guns commonly used by soldiers not samurai. They keep their faith by using sword.
So in the battlefield, soldiers with riffle will be in the first row then samurai in the second row.
Weeb: I will not dishonor the way of the sword!
Me with a rifle after giving him 2 shots: hahahahahahahah
I confirm this is true when i saw Isshin pulled out his Glock
It's awesome to see a fellow samurai follower
Actually, the Chinese called out the Japanese for using guns. Saying it was dishonorable.
And the Japanese were like: "just get good bozo"