i used to be a look pedal user for many years. since moving to speed play i am hooked and won't go back. speed play's float and the dual sided clip in are the options i like the most
4:40 - For the Shimano SPD-SL system at least, you can get a rubber cover for the cleat which allows you to walk around relatively normally without damaging your cleats. Definitely worth getting!
When I first got into road cycling, I went with SPD (with mountain bike shoes) because I was often incorporating errands and treat (edible and scenic) stops into my rides. However, indoor rides and workouts with mountain bike shoes often ended with my feet being soaked and a sloshing noise coming from my shoes. As a result, I made the switch to Look Keo this past winter to accompany a new pair of shoes that are as much vent as they are shoe. Not only were my feet cooler for longer in my indoor workouts, but I also noticed a jump in my power numbers. I considered Speedplays, but cost and in store availability at my local bike shops steered me away from them. I'd still like to give them a try at some point, especially with the upgrades made by Wahoo, as I'm happy with my Look Keo pedals, but I'm having a hard time mastering the single-sided clip in while riding outside.
SPD-pedals. One-sided on road bike, SPD/flat on commuter and normal SPD's on cyclocross and MTB. Easy, durable and only need different shoes for summer and winter
I used to ride Look in the 90s when I started triathlons. For the past 20 years been using SPD, yes what mountain bikers use 😬 I’ve stuck with these and most of all like the ability to walk around without slipping over, in addition transitions are a breeze 😎
Do you put your cycling shoes on T1 and run with them to the mount line? How do you find that? Or do you clip the shoes onto the pedals and run barefoot? I've been thinking of using spd's on my road bike for triathlon but I'm not 100%, in my mind it would make transition + mounting really easy 🤔
@@alejandrogiron9611 out of 5e swim, wetsuit off shoes on, run with the bike to area to mount, jump on, clip in and cycle away. Opposite coming in off the bike. Works really well for me.
Time. I tried Speedplay for a few years, but I was expending too much energy keeping my feet aligned. Maybe that's because for 25 years I used slotted cleats with toeclips and straps. I like Look and SPD-SL, too. I just like Time a little bit more.
When I've used Look Keo pedals in the past. I also used the cleat covers. They keep the crap build up to a minimum and stop all wear on the cleats when walking. I still have the pedals and cleat covers. I just need to get some rpad shoes. As I usually use mountain bike pedals on my road bike.
I've just gotten my first ever set of clipless pedals. I went with SPD. I'm going to start learning clipping in and out next to a wall this evening and then make my way up to using them on the road. Fun fact: in German we call them 'click pedals' (literally translated) I guess because of the clicking sound they make when clipping in. Just in case any of you English speakers want to adopt that term to avoid the whole 'clipping into clipless pedals' confusion.
“Contact patch” with regards to cleat and pedal is a myth. If you have a stiff sole, that’s your contact patch; the sole should transfer the power as efficiently regardless of the cleat and pedal platform. There’s nothing added with a large cleat.
I like my eggbeaters on my road bike. I am not going for those marginal gains yet. I just like the ease of clipping in and walking around in mtb shoes. If your foot is placed on the pedal consistently I don't think there are many watts lost when using a stiff mtb/cx shoe.
I ride flat pedals on my snow bike when riding the groomed trails. I tried SPD but they would clog with snow/ice when I unclipped during a ride because they were warm from riding. On my tri and road bike I recently switched to Look because I ride Assioma power pedals. Prior to that I rode speed play but found during longer rides/races the ball of my foot became hot and I had to unclip because of the pressure of the small area of the pedals.
Many thanks for this valuable info that I'm in the process of trying to make important decisions on. I've just been cycling for 3 months at my cardio nurse's suggestion as I have heart failure. I purchased a Decathlon Triban RC500 as it's an ali frame and carb forks as I'm trying to keep weight to a minimum, so that it's easier on my heart rather than pushing a lump of steel along the road. I'm seriously considering some Wahoo Speedplay nano pedals and good quality road or off road shoes (still thinking which ones will suit me best) as I'm thinking logically that if I'm promoting power BOTH on the push AND pull rather than just the push, then surely it's got to be kinder on my heart as I'm only using half the energy for reaching my highest recommended BPM of 104 as suggested by my cardio nurse, I'd really appreciate your thoughts on this and as for the Wahoo Speedplay nano pedals, that's just me as I've always bought the best in everything that I've always done, as I'm into cycling for the long haul as it's the best hobby I've ever gotten into and the best decision to help my heart get fitter.
Is it recommended to have different shoes for different cleats/bikes? My tri bike uses SPD-SL and my gravel bike uses SPD. My shoes are compatible with both so I currently switch out depending on which bike I'm riding, but wondering if I should just get another pair and dedicate one to each? Also, how do I know which float (zero, moderate, heavy) my SPD-SL cleats are? Appreciate the advice!
Same, I use SPD on my hybrid, and SL on my road bike. If I’m going to the city centre or for meeting friends for coffee the ability to walk easily is a real bonus, but SL’s are better on the road bike.
Have you done the update video on the Speedplay pedals? I have done a number of sprint tris, but this year I'm training for 2 Olympic and 1 70.3. The bike is my weakest link, partly because I am a nervous biker. I'm considering switching to the speedplay pedals so I don't feel so locked in. What do you think? #coachescorner
@@BimHennemann can’t be a reason? Don’t understand. Pedals are light but once you add the clear you are still carrying the same weight. Just wondered why he changed.
@@OFFSHOREDOUG I am using titan pedals, similar to the speedplaysystem. They are, cleats included, still a bit lighter than Dura Ace and much cheaper. I think the only real reason is to Change because of using old speedplaycleats, which aren't great to walk. But lets wait what he says.
I’ve gone from the SPD-SL to the new Wahoo SpeedPlay pedals. I must say the dual side clip in is great & gone is my left wonky outer knie issue. I would advice to try/borrow SpeedPlay pedals and try them out yourself!
The next gen pedals will be hooked to our neural links which will clipout just by thinking, enabling it too be very responsive. It will be made by rocket grade carbon fiber and can be purchased by Doge coin only.
Generally a good video but you never explained how to clip in and out of the speed play pedals. I’m guessing it’s exactly the same as the others. It would be good to know as they seem so different. I love the show and this is probably the only thing I’ve had an issue with, thanks for all the info 😊
Which pedals do you use? Let us know 👇
Spd (off-road) spd sl on the road
i used to be a look pedal user for many years. since moving to speed play i am hooked and won't go back. speed play's float and the dual sided clip in are the options i like the most
On dura ace. Thinking of speedplay.
Ultegra carbon SPD-SL.
@@tonythomas8435 time road pedal system 15, very, very low Q factor...
4:40 - For the Shimano SPD-SL system at least, you can get a rubber cover for the cleat which allows you to walk around relatively normally without damaging your cleats. Definitely worth getting!
If I’m going to need to walk around i use SPD, if I’m on my road bike, SPD SL. Both have their place.
When I first got into road cycling, I went with SPD (with mountain bike shoes) because I was often incorporating errands and treat (edible and scenic) stops into my rides. However, indoor rides and workouts with mountain bike shoes often ended with my feet being soaked and a sloshing noise coming from my shoes. As a result, I made the switch to Look Keo this past winter to accompany a new pair of shoes that are as much vent as they are shoe. Not only were my feet cooler for longer in my indoor workouts, but I also noticed a jump in my power numbers.
I considered Speedplays, but cost and in store availability at my local bike shops steered me away from them. I'd still like to give them a try at some point, especially with the upgrades made by Wahoo, as I'm happy with my Look Keo pedals, but I'm having a hard time mastering the single-sided clip in while riding outside.
Speedplay: Ultra Light Action. I have been using them since 2016; best, easiest pedal-cleat combo ever. Well worth the price.
You guys are the best. Just bought a Cervelo tri bike and need pedals. Typed in a search and you’re here for me. Cheers!
SPD-pedals. One-sided on road bike, SPD/flat on commuter and normal SPD's on cyclocross and MTB. Easy, durable and only need different shoes for summer and winter
I used to ride Look in the 90s when I started triathlons. For the past 20 years been using SPD, yes what mountain bikers use 😬 I’ve stuck with these and most of all like the ability to walk around without slipping over, in addition transitions are a breeze 😎
Do you put your cycling shoes on T1 and run with them to the mount line? How do you find that? Or do you clip the shoes onto the pedals and run barefoot?
I've been thinking of using spd's on my road bike for triathlon but I'm not 100%, in my mind it would make transition + mounting really easy 🤔
@@alejandrogiron9611 out of 5e swim, wetsuit off shoes on, run with the bike to area to mount, jump on, clip in and cycle away. Opposite coming in off the bike. Works really well for me.
@@DeanPattrick thanks mate sounds great, I'll give it a try on my next tri 👍🏼
Time. I tried Speedplay for a few years, but I was expending too much energy keeping my feet aligned. Maybe that's because for 25 years I used slotted cleats with toeclips and straps. I like Look and SPD-SL, too. I just like Time a little bit more.
Awesome video. I was looking for a basic explanation on the differences. Thanks you!
Hopefully you found this video helpful, do let us know if you have any further questions 🙂
When I've used Look Keo pedals in the past. I also used the cleat covers. They keep the crap build up to a minimum and stop all wear on the cleats when walking. I still have the pedals and cleat covers. I just need to get some rpad shoes. As I usually use mountain bike pedals on my road bike.
SPD SL is still the best for me!
have a great day ahead mate cheers!
Yes, I have both, and find Shimano's action slicker
my day got more even better while watching gcn!!
very useful for someone getting started with triathlon! thanks guys
I've just gotten my first ever set of clipless pedals. I went with SPD. I'm going to start learning clipping in and out next to a wall this evening and then make my way up to using them on the road.
Fun fact: in German we call them 'click pedals' (literally translated) I guess because of the clicking sound they make when clipping in. Just in case any of you English speakers want to adopt that term to avoid the whole 'clipping into clipless pedals' confusion.
SPD. Simple, durable. Less stress in transition. Less duck walking in transition too!
I believe you should just use road clipless pedals when you're competitive or just personal preference.Where watts and seconds really matter.
“Contact patch” with regards to cleat and pedal is a myth. If you have a stiff sole, that’s your contact patch; the sole should transfer the power as efficiently regardless of the cleat and pedal platform. There’s nothing added with a large cleat.
Sounds good... Though... after 8 hours in the saddle in the summer, it doesn't feel so good.
Joe Joe Exactly right !!!
Well said! 🤙
Thank you for explaining it!!
I like my eggbeaters on my road bike. I am not going for those marginal gains yet. I just like the ease of clipping in and walking around in mtb shoes. If your foot is placed on the pedal consistently I don't think there are many watts lost when using a stiff mtb/cx shoe.
I suspect for triathlon any gains from SPD SL is wiped out by needing to change shoes. SL is great for a road bike, but useless off it.
I ride mountain and road so I just have 2 sets of SPD and 1 pair of shoes
I ride flat pedals on my snow bike when riding the groomed trails. I tried SPD but they would clog with snow/ice when I unclipped during a ride because they were warm from riding. On my tri and road bike I recently switched to Look because I ride Assioma power pedals. Prior to that I rode speed play but found during longer rides/races the ball of my foot became hot and I had to unclip because of the pressure of the small area of the pedals.
It's been a few years since this now. Any chance you could review Magped and Bythlon
Garmin Rally now in SPD, SPD-SL and Keo POWER+Pedal=winner
Many thanks for this valuable info that I'm in the process of trying to make important decisions on. I've just been cycling for 3 months at my cardio nurse's suggestion as I have heart failure. I purchased a Decathlon Triban RC500 as it's an ali frame and carb forks as I'm trying to keep weight to a minimum, so that it's easier on my heart rather than pushing a lump of steel along the road.
I'm seriously considering some Wahoo Speedplay nano pedals and good quality road or off road shoes (still thinking which ones will suit me best) as I'm thinking logically that if I'm promoting power BOTH on the push AND pull rather than just the push, then surely it's got to be kinder on my heart as I'm only using half the energy for reaching my highest recommended BPM of 104 as suggested by my cardio nurse,
I'd really appreciate your thoughts on this and as for the Wahoo Speedplay nano pedals, that's just me as I've always bought the best in everything that I've always done, as I'm into cycling for the long haul as it's the best hobby I've ever gotten into and the best decision to help my heart get fitter.
Is it recommended to have different shoes for different cleats/bikes? My tri bike uses SPD-SL and my gravel bike uses SPD. My shoes are compatible with both so I currently switch out depending on which bike I'm riding, but wondering if I should just get another pair and dedicate one to each? Also, how do I know which float (zero, moderate, heavy) my SPD-SL cleats are? Appreciate the advice!
Same, I use SPD on my hybrid, and SL on my road bike. If I’m going to the city centre or for meeting friends for coffee the ability to walk easily is a real bonus, but SL’s are better on the road bike.
Have you done the update video on the Speedplay pedals?
I have done a number of sprint tris, but this year I'm training for 2 Olympic and 1 70.3. The bike is my weakest link, partly because I am a nervous biker. I'm considering switching to the speedplay pedals so I don't feel so locked in. What do you think? #coachescorner
Hi, such a good video. I have a dump question. Can I use look pedals with Shimano clips?
arent the shimano spd sl dura ace 4:00 not ultegera
If you are taller / heavier shimano all the way, also pick up the +4mm spindle so it will help your Q-factor.
I am a beginner: what is the q-factor?
@@catrat343245 a posh way of saying how wide your feet are. If your bigger you can get knee issues and your feet can hit the cranks.
@@richscorer thanks for the explanation!
@@catrat343245 the distance between your feet. Not how wide your feet are. I think the above just worded wrong.
@@OFFSHOREDOUG thanks mate!
Awesome thanks
Do Speedplay pedals require a different shoe with 4 holes instead of the Look, Shimano 3 hole cleat attachment???????
No not necessarily, you should be able to get a adapter plate. Or you should get one in the package when you buy the pedals..
Just borrow a speedplay from my friend in order to feal the difference from Look
And the shoes too?
Does anyone know an adapter option for Speedplay to look? I cant find any. Thx
Wich ones are the better suited for conmuting? in the sense that conmuters walk a lot
Mtb SPD’s for sure.
Good video
Glad you enjoyed
will it feet man 6'1''?
Speedplay until today. I switched to Dura Ace
I’m in Dura ace and was thinking speedplay. Any reason you went the other way?
@@OFFSHOREDOUG can't be a reason, Dura Ace is heavyer, the shoes are farer away from the pedal, can't walk that nice with the Cleats...
@@BimHennemann can’t be a reason? Don’t understand. Pedals are light but once you add the clear you are still carrying the same weight. Just wondered why he changed.
@@OFFSHOREDOUG I am using titan pedals, similar to the speedplaysystem. They are, cleats included, still a bit lighter than Dura Ace and much cheaper.
I think the only real reason is to Change because of using old speedplaycleats, which aren't great to walk.
But lets wait what he says.
@@BimHennemann gotcha.
I’ve gone from the SPD-SL to the new Wahoo SpeedPlay pedals. I must say the dual side clip in is great & gone is my left wonky outer knie issue.
I would advice to try/borrow SpeedPlay pedals and try them out yourself!
Keywin. The only option.
The next gen pedals will be hooked to our neural links which will clipout just by thinking, enabling it too be very responsive. It will be made by rocket grade carbon fiber and can be purchased by Doge coin only.
Would it really make that much performance difference just to have $3 rubber loop hooks like you get on a gym bike...
Generally a good video but you never explained how to clip in and out of the speed play pedals. I’m guessing it’s exactly the same as the others. It would be good to know as they seem so different.
I love the show and this is probably the only thing I’ve had an issue with, thanks for all the info 😊
what..no Time pedals.. forgot this is sponsored by shimnao
Sponsored by...
.......sit down for this........ shimano.....lol