Bringing EV Charging Home - Coast-to-Coast EVs 28 w/ Pando Electric
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ธ.ค. 2024
- Join Walter, Eric, and Steve for a deep dive on bringing home charging to apartments, condos, and other residential scenarios that have limited EV adoption... until now?
We're joined by Joseph Nagle of Pando Electric to discuss the challenges of charging at multi-unit dwellings and how Pando's product line can help -- www.pandoelectric.com. Here are the videos referred to in our discussion:
Mach-E Vlog Pando Site Visit in SoCal - • How to get LEVEL 2 EV ...
Grid Connections Interview w/ Joseph - • Ep. 49: Level 2 Chargi...
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I just watched a video about The Pando Aspen. Leave Curious Channel. Great company. Cost is key and they are low cost.
Thanks, Fellas, as always.
Thanks for watching!
I noticed, two weeks ago, during our semi-annual drive from BC to SE AZ that the CCS1 DCFCs were busier this year than last with the Tesla SCs about the same.
Sorry to miss you guys live, I had an engagement this evening. Just wanted to make a slight correction to something Joseph said at 34:30, The 200,000 EV’s in Los Angeles would take 2 MW which is a reasonable calculation based on 10 kW home charging, which is rare but possible, I have that for instance with a 60 amp setting on my hard wired ChargePoint Home Flex.
The correction is that he said 2 MW was similar to a nuclear reactor. That is 3 orders of magnitude off. For example, the nuclear reactor that’s 40 miles away from me, Diablo Canyon is 2.2 GW, enough for 200 million EV‘s to be simultaneously charging at home 😂
Joseph is correct. 200000*10 kw equals 2,000,000 kw which equals 2,000 MW which equals 2 GW.
The I-90 route was nice to use this fall from Seattle to Iowa. It was good to see Steve and later The Out of Spec I-90 Surge videos highlight areas I frequent in Washington State and later when I went across the country. It's really only in 2024 that the I-90 route has been filled out with charging stations.
OMG!!! RAN opening. We own an Ioniq6 and R1T. Joshua Tree cool.
Unfortunately it does sound like it's a phased opening rather than all at once, but good to see it finally happening. Hopefully there will be good options for 2025 adventures... 🤞👀
@@plugandplayEVThanks. Yes, any openings help. Thanks for the info.
@@plugandplayEV I do trips Chicago-Dallas and I will benefit from the two new RANs that will open up in Springfield IL and Bloomington IL. We're still at the point where expensive DCFC is worth it because reliability & DCFC availability is low. Once more competitors move in and we have charging options then price will come down too. I think you too would agree that the more the merrier. BTW - Great podcast/ content. I enjoyed it and thanks for picking my question.
No thank you on the Tesla EVSE. For our 2 EVs I'm very happy with the future-proof-ish Grizzle-E 80 amp. Unlikely to have two 3400 EVs in the next 5 years, maybe just get my wife out of her Leaf and into my Ioniq 5 whilst I take on the Ioniq 9 next year or 2026. At that point I'm happy using an adapter and if we get to a point where that isn't working for us hopefully Grizzle-E will have a swapout on the cable or better yet an ability to add a second cable to our unit. Worst case we'll add a 3400 EVSE to the circuit and install a switcher that only allows one to run at a time.
We have gizzle 80 with the NACS plug. We are a Tesla and Lucid household.
The DCFC providers have my CC on file and this should be sufficient for them to access my account and charging plan, if I pay by CC, rather than via the cellphone app.
At 49:50 Joseph is talking about the price discounts for charging in the Palo Alto area because of Peninsula Clean Energy incentives. What I’m confused by is the word usage, he says that each unit paid $400 per Charger and that term was used several other times during his discussions. I don’t believe that they are providing any EVSE units to go with these outlets so I would say $400 per charging location but certainly not per Charger because you cannot plug a car directly into a 14-50 outlet.
Yes, I think he was using the terms interchangeably. Technically, even the EVSE isn't a charger either, so I'm not sure how we would want to classify these.
I am so confused, at 1:04:00 Joseph is saying that his device is ambivalent to scheduled departure and that you would set it in the vehicle. That sounds logical however I thought his system would do round robin and try to fully charge a vehicle until it sees that it’s not drawing power and then move on. Now you have a parking lot full of 10 vehicle vehicles that are not drawing power and the system doesn’t know what to do, then at 3 AM suddenly all 10 vehicles want to draw power and the load management will then hopefully at least charge one of the vehicles or two of them, but I’m sure eight people will be very disappointed in the morning. I do not see how peak power times can really be satisfied when you have limited power available and you are oversubscribed. But I’m just a retired programmer, what do I know.
I get the logic behind wanting the car to manage both the power draw and any scheduled departure time, but as you noted, that could be problematic if everyone set their cars for departure timing. I don't think that would be a recurring issue, though. Hopefully, people would talk to their neighbors and set their cars accordingly.