PTO Clutches 101 - Everything You Need 2 Know
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 เม.ย. 2024
- In this mid-week video, Taryl goes over PTO clutches and everything you need to know about them and how they work. He breaks down what makes them up and how they operate as well as how to adjust them (if they can be adjusted). So sit back and learn something new with your good ol pal Taryl in another informative video. Now There's Your Dinner!!
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Great video as usual you might mention that some clutches run clockwise and some run counterclockwise
@@spiffy830 .What difference does it make, Taryl is talking about adjusting clutches not direction. CW or CCW , what difference does it make?
You offer a college level power mechanics class wrapped in a bit of humor. You’re a National Treasure for us folks that work on our own stuff but won’t live long enough to figure it out on my own. Well Done Sir.
Taryl, at 71 years of age and being non-mechanically minded, I absolutely enjoy your videos. You are an excellent teacher and very thorough in your explanations. Thank you for your humor and the quality videos you produce! I would be one of those "boneheads" that would come in. The ones that don't have a clue😁. May you continue to be abundantly blessed. John here, from the back-roads of Northeastern Tennessee.
He makes me wanna do small engine repairs. I like this kind of work.
DAD?? Is that you??????
@@USMC-Sniper-0137 😅🤣😂As far as I know, no. I am a Submarine Sailor so I suppose it could be....a Sub-Marine😁. Hope all is well with you. Take care.
@@robinredman5192 I'm 62 and kiddin' Hope life is great for you always as well sir! OHHHHHRAHHH!
@@USMC-Sniper-0137 This is John actually, as Robin is the wifey. Knew you were kidding. I wouldn't want to upset you Sniper-0137. It would not end well for me. brouhaha ha. 😁
When my lawn mower was just out of warranty, I put in a new "Extreme" clutch on Taryl's advice. They are built better, thicker, stronger, and pulleys made out of billet aluminum. I haven't had a problem since. Thanks Taryl..! 😎
Best to keep clutch engaged as much as possible and engage at half speed. The clutch will last much longer as will the bearings as they are not turning when clutch engaged. Avoid on & off as much as possible.
@@donaldbracciano832 A lot of zero turn mowers shut the blades off everytime you throw it in reverse tho automatically.
You left out the best part, how to fix torn off wires from the clutch... I learned how to fix that in one of your older videos! Great stuff taryl!
I thought you might mention the best engine rpm to engage the clutch. Or if it would matter. I do about half throttle.
I have repaired many of the "unrepairable" ones, many of them have shims in the stack up and they can be changed and removed to effect the engagement and braking of the clutch, that being said once the bearings are shot it's time to buy a new one most of them are staked in. The better clutches that Toro professional and golf equipment have replaceable bearings and I have fixed those also
I’ve replaced staked in bearings many times. It’s really not that hard to do. Way cheaper than a new clutch.
@@notajp yeah not impossible but you fight the time vs cost of new parts .
Is it possible for the clutch to slip? I have a Toro Grandstand the blades dont seem to be spinning fast enough and in thick grass you can tell they slow right down. Could it be slipping? It engages/disengages fine with the switch.
Maybe do part 2 to discuss the different symptoms when 1 or both bearings sieze. They can be replaced although the SAE ID Metric OD bearings are hard to find.
Fantastic information! Thank You!
Thank you for this helpful video Taryl
Great information Taryl
IF you take the clutch off the crank shaft you have make sure you put the spacer back on the right way . Great video .
Another GREAT video Taryl!
Good explanation of how they work.
Taryl thanks for the talk through!
Another informative video, keep them coming many of us appreciate the easy to understand way you pass along your knowledge. Cheers.
Thanks for the video Taryl.
Thank you for this video !!
That's useful info. Thanks again Taryl. 👍
Thank you for sharing. I get educated every time I watch your videos. Thanks for not keeping it to yourself.👍
I found out just this past week that the least model engine seen in any repair shops for any type of repairs is the Kohler 7000 series engine I want this engine in my tractor now
That’s a load of bologna, best engine the the Kawasaki FH series engines. Awesome engines
I have a Kohler Command 15hp 22 years old with 1101 hours and have NEVER had it in the shop. Good Engine. They say they are like the Kohler 7000. Don’t know if that’s true.
@@brandonstclair6530load? Buddy I suggest to research that just like I did the Kawasaki engine is a joke compared to the Kohler 7000 series engine the Kawasaki is in the repair shops continually over and over again this comes from actual small engine repair shops so the only bs being handed here is your reply period
@@donaldbracciano832the Kohler 7000 thousand series Kt725 22 horsepower V twin 725cc is designed after the Kohler command commercial pro engine it's the only engine that the 3 year unlimited hours warranty covers in both residential and commercial use... I'm not surprised about your Kohler Kohler command engine at all you'll probably go another decade with no real issues these Kawasaki engine people are in some delusional fantasy land about that engine
@brandstclair6530 you're a funny guy if you believe that your Kawasaki is a better engine than the Kohler 7000
My friend at Werner Clutch said burnishing is very important that is turning the clutch on and off 10 times at full throttle 😊
Of course that’s what the clutch salesman says. Lol
@@fastinradfordable worked for me zero problems now
Worked for me
Great explanation! You're a great teacher!
Thank you for another excellent lesson. Respect from here in UK.
Great video on explaining the pto clutch, Thanks.
Great advise.
great bit of information.
Thanks, great video
Very informative video sir. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Great video. Thank you.
This video is awesome.
The electric clutch on my ariens zero turn started engaging violently when the friction material was worn. Snapping belts frequently. Shock load snapped them.
Thanks for the video. I repair ones when possible. When I refurbish one I pop the grease seal on the bearing and add grease or clean out the old grease and add new grease, depending on the old grease. A good overall disassembly, cleaning and greasing has saved many for me.
Great video
Thankyou!!!
Thank you you did explain
Thank you for your knowledge and expertise i just bought a zero turn with an electric pto clutch and was curious about how it worked .
Thank you for this Daryl, that was a good insight on.I've never got to mess with the electric clutch yet
This is all good stuff and thanks to this maniac for sharing his knowledge its kind of him to do so and never ever forget that !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks Taryl.
Good information Taryl. I learned something new about that. I appreciate ya'.
Low battery will cause the PTO to kick out also !
Great timing Taryl, I just picked up a Zturn with a dead PTO. I haven't had a chance to look at it yet and hoped it's just a bad wire, but if it's not it's probably getting a little worn and won't grab because of the gap. I had an AC clutch doing that in a Jeep I had and I removed a thin spacer washer from that clutch (AC clutch works the same way) and it's still working many years later.
Thumbs up,great video
Great video.
Very informative
We keep the air gaps checked in ours and make sure there’s no oil leaks that’ll ruin em.
Lots of good info here 🙌
Best channel ever !
Thanks Taryl! And heads up to all of the Grass Rats-be sure you have a healthy battery on your electric clutch mowers-don't jump a mower with a bad battery-you may burn up the charging system, and burn up the clutch by sending too much current to a bad battery, and not enough to the clutch-and there's your dinner! Oops can I say that?
Very interesting video!
about the same as a cars a/c unit
Im pretty much out of the game now , but did outdoor power equipment and yard work off and on quite a few years. I was happy with them and have had good luck with the X-Treme brand of clutches. Built strong and last long. Thanks for doing your vids my man , always interesting.
Yep, highly recommend the Xtreme clutches. And your can usually buy them cheaper than the OEM replacement.
Excellent info Taryl. I build 2stk Gas Bikes. Too bad we couldn't find a Featherable electric clutch. Yup... Different animal. Although...Like Gas bikes this type clutch is engaged or disengaged. no feather. P.T.O... Loved this Vid and info. Thanks!
Thanks for the education on the electric clutches. Learned a lot I did not know.
Thanks!
What a timely video.
This was a good tip I Learn something today something new which I never knew before no I know❤
You need to run mower engine at top speed in order to keep the charging of battery correct. I have seen some run mower at slower RPMs and burn up the clutch. Battery started getting low on charge. Kinda important to know
Hey Taryl,
I have been watching your channel since last winter. I have to tell you that although you don’t brag about it but you are a master small engine mechanic. I have acquired a tremendous amount of knowledge from watching you. Plus you are very entertaining with all the fun you guys have in your shop.
Thanks for keeping each episode interesting.
Like old AC pulley mag clutches. Hang for ur vids man, always informative and often a good laugh. Hi from Australia.
Same device as automotive AC compressor clutches Thanks for the video.
Good information…👍👍
Awesome.
Great video 👍
Great video thanks for sharing
Very interesting on how you explain clutches electric ones good video Keep Em Up
Iv had a extreme torq brand one on my airens grand siera it's been on it over 4 years so far doing good
My son was cleaning and adjusting PTO clutches on bowling pin machines last week
Do they look like this
Your shirts are always very clean, first time I ever saw anything on it, luckily it brushed right off.
Thank you Taryl. Bob
I have rewound one of those.
You da Grass Man!
Thanks, now I know what to look for and how it works, just like an a/c compressor clutch.
mine is adjustable, thanks!
Hi Daryl, I changed the clutch on my husqvarna about a year ago and I forgot to anchor the clutch plate and it tore out the wires and I ordered another one. I wish I would have seen your video earlier. I am going to look for your video on how to fix the wires, if they get tore out.Great video
Nice 💯💯💯
I like these tech Thursdays videos taryl…. I’d like to see one on spindle bearings next 👍👍👍
Cool...thanks.
The aftermarket has made replacement of the non reparable ones quite affordable, I have not seen a lot of problems with the aftermarket ones either
The exact problem I’m having thx😃👍🏿
YES
What's the proper way to engage A PTo at high r p m or at lower r p m
High rpm. The magnet has to work harder and speed up if you engage at low rpm. Aleays engage the blades at high rpm
I have wondered that myself thinking the way of slipping the clutch on a manual transmission
@@codyswilley that is the opposite of what my 2011 x1 manual says. It states mid rmp range to reduce wear. But some people say high rpm. That's why I want Teryls opinion.
@@codyswilley Dumbest logic I've heard in a good while.
@@Look_What_I_Did it's the correct way actually. Shows what you know
I bought Cub Cadet Super Garden tractor in the early 90's. It had an electric PTO clutch. A huge problem with them in that tractor, but they offered a fix/newer one. At least they were honest about it.
Had a fixed one that wouldn't start after deep grass cutting and I was able to clean it out with compressed air and that was all it needed.
Thanks for making this easily understandable and its good to know that they are not just full of mysterious non-understandable magic pixies
need to check my drive clutch,not easy stuff Taryl fix all 😉
I think you just answered my question @ 4:28. I have a old Craftsman Rear ride mower that I bought for cheap and am trying to bring back to life (Model 502.270110). Anyways I got it running and unfroze the Transmission so far which were my 2 biggest hurdles. The issue I'm having now is when I push the clutch/brake Pedal Down (on my mower its the same pedal), Turn the Key and start the mower it runs. Then when I attempt to let off the clutch/brake pedal I hear a griding sound when the pedal is almost all the way out. I thought it was the Transmisson at first, but when I had someone else sit on the mower with me looking under sparks appeared to actually be coming from the PTO area.
I will have to take off the clutch next to see if it's the same style you mentioned in 4:28. Hope so, so
I can try to fix it and move on to the next thig.
Thanks a million man, great information as my dad has wasted hundreds of dollars replacing these POS things.
Do a retrofit video to convert electric PTO to manual PTO clutch.
Taryl , the mag stop clutch in the last 10 years can be adjusted by installing a repair brake shoe kit which closes the gap so less amps are needed to keep the clutch engaged that usually takes care of that style.
You should have mentioned These clutches are also brakes. They not only energize the mower blades, they also bring them to a stop. I've found it easier to adjust Ogura and old-style Warners found on garden tractors by setting the drag in the brake side evenly. I've also found over the years the gap really isn't all that important as some say. If the electro-magnet is in good condition and there is little wear on the shaft hub, it will pull that disc in with an eighth inch gap or more. In fact, the book states to test the magnet, energize it and place a wrench next to it. A good clutch will stick that wrench right to that coil. Keep your fingers from between it. More often than not, I replace those old-style Warners and Ogura's with later style non-adjustable types. They are much better, much cheaper and don't require a feeler gauge to keep them operating.
Wow! Perfect timing Taryl! I'm repowering my zero-turn and I plan to check the adjustment when I install the old PTO clutch onto the new engine.
Quick question... does it matter if the belt is installed and under tension or should I adjust the PTO clutch gap without the belt on?
Thanks Taryl. I really appreciate the time and effort you put into your videos and how you share your knowledge and experience in a fun and understandable way.
God Bless you brother.
I have the adjustable p.t.o on my craftsman gt tractor I had to adjust it to get it to work again
My clutch is rusted onto the crankshaft. I got the transmission belt replaced without removing the clutch. Some day I will need to remove it, I’ll figure it out then. Great video.
I've never been rich enough to own a mower with a PTO clutch
same concept for electric fan clutches in trucks and busses... and also A/C compressor clutches.. alot of A/Cclutches and horton fan clutches are adjustable for clearances as well..
I would just as soon have a manual PTO
I took the magnet off and welded it full on. Now I have to start it with the blades turning with the engine being very careful when getting on and off the mower when it's running.
Are rebuild kits available for the adjustable clutches?
That's the same with Ford ac compressors up to the 2006 I know.
Those they have shims added when manufacturers, and after they get some wear on them they'll release the clutch same as you're speaking of.
Ford calls it setting the air gap between the magnetic coil, and the clutch face..
But same thing just different use if magnetic clutch lockup.
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ANOTHER GREAT VIDEO TARLY!
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NOW THERE'S MY DINNER.
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Taryl!! We all already knew that!!