Bold and the Beautiful: Why Li Would Lie to Help Poppy (and Maybe Kill Someone)
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The latest episode of The Bold and the Beautiful on CBS reveals intriguing developments, hinting that Li Finnegan (Naomi Matsuda) might be aiding Poppy Nozawa (Romy Park), despite their complicated past.
A recent conversation between Li and Bill Spencer (Don Diamont) sheds light on their tangled relationships and past secrets, including the affair between Jack Finnegan (Ted King), Li's ex-husband, and Sheila Carter (Kimberlin Brown), who is the birth mother of Finnegan's son, John (Tanner Novlan).
Li's disdain for Sheila and her attempts to remove her from Finn's life suggest a possible motive for her support towards Poppy. The episode also explores the question of Luna's real father, hinting at possible familial links between Poppy, Finn, and Li. Amidst the web of secrets and lies, the episode leaves viewers questioning Li's motives and her role in Poppy's life. Bold and the Beautiful continues to keep audiences on edge with unpredictable twists and turns.
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Katie is skating on very thin ice with Poppy 😱
@@jamesorendorff2731 Li might poison Katie.
@@jamesorendorff2731 & Li
I know Katie should watch her back poppy will come after her Katie
Wondering if Bill still has all those hidden cameras in his family room???!!! Bill is too smart to be so snowed by Poppy. I also think his visit to Li was premeditated to watch her body language and to set up a fall.
Not sure about anyone else, but I was yelling to Katie that she was in the wrong place talking to the very wrong person when she went to Li’s office.
The way he is talking with Poppy reminds me of how he talked to Shiela before lowering the boom. If Katie sees all of this with Poppy as very stange, I would think Bill would too.
@@pattis8581 For Real! There's a killer on the loose. What if Li's husband killed those men?
No lab test is 100% accurate. Katie needs to hire a PI to investigate Poppy & send hair samples to a reputable DNA lab.🤔
She's not done with it. There are so many ways to sneak and get samples from Luna and also Bill. And we know that Will is on his way. Katie could also test by sibling.
Katie needs to mind her own business. She’s divorced and she shouldn’t just walk in like she owns the place. Bill needs to tell her to call first.
It's not Katie's business!
@@valeriewatson2409 It definitely is not..she needs to call and get permission to just "drop by." That's not her or Will's house!
I’m think Stephanie is acting like a school girl jealous of her stepmom, grow the hell up, and Katie acting less like a creepy jealous ex, mind your own business Katie, stay in your own lane. The show is so getting on my nerves
Finn is Luna’s father. That’s my guess from the very beginning! I think it would upset Li more if that info got out than if her father was Jack.
@@cathynuytten798 Li said Poppy did something to make her lose her job right?
Both LI and Poppy need to go!!!!!!!!
@tammypowell9846 yes mam sick of them especially poppy all she does is cry and thank bill
I’m not even watching anymore atm. I just tune In here to see what is happening or more like dragging out.
May as well watch it .
I fast forward through so much of it now
I think Jack slept with Poppy the reason Li is so mad at her. I think Finn is too young to be Luna Daddy.
Well Jack already cheated and got Finn so why they doing all this stuff to hide he cheated twice. Really. They doing to much for just that. It has to be finn
I watched the episode that you mentioned in this video on yesterday. I thought to myself that maybe we were on the right track back then. This is the kind of secret that families hide deep within the family and would do anything to keep it hidden forever. So I said that to say this, I believe Finn is Luna's father. Li, Jack and Poppy are the keepers and they're all working to keep it hidden.
yeps.
what about Tom saying he is the father
She slept with many men, so of course Tom would think he was the one. Only Poppy knows the timing of each man, and who she thinks it really is.
I realize that Li and Finn aren't biologically related, but it still poses an uncomfortable incestual-like ickiness what with the possibility of Poppy's daughter being Finn's. Nothing like keeping it all in the family.
@@lonelyheroine that’s b&b for you.
I am really worry about Katie I think she’s next “oh no save Katie” 😂
@lindaforrest630 I know my girl who's on the case is now not safe from that pill popping fluzzie
If Li is going to unalive people to frame Sheila then why not just unalive Sheila?
@@jamesanderson3617 Because Sheila's not the target. This is a cover up concerning Luna.
It’s more soapy 😂this way
Facts just give Sheila the poison drinks and done. But if Finn is the father it makes sense. It’s just whack though doctors take an oath to save lives not kill then not liking this direction of Li but she has it in her to keep secrets she stole Finn’s body out of a hospital to try to save his life and didn’t tell Steffi and while I love her for that they are setting up Li for a fall and continue to just have her as an angry character one dimensional so this is the only way they make her interesting.
@@jamesanderson3617 True
@Electrosoulgurrl Thank you my point exactly Li killing people and bill killing people or hiring somebody to kill for him they are destroying their own lives and for what bill to be Lunas father
Her nephew? No way! Please don't go down that yellow brick road! 😅
Even if Bill kicks Poppy to the curve, he ain't abandoning Luna. That's for sure.
Yeah right until Finn finds out and pulls her away into his orbit. Finn would definitely have that right to do so... Of course it would be unsettling for Stuffy ho who doesn't support him Havin a family outside of hers....
@@darnellanders8768 That "Finn is the Daddy" mess is speculation -until otherwise. 😏
@@PhoenixDaNerdette oh well so is that dollar 💰 Bill mess .. More than likely it's not dollar Bill or Li would have insisted the test be taken at the hospital not some store bought test kits . Blood test drawn from the hospital is the most appropriate way for accurate results.. Clearly something went down with Poppy and Finn when she resided with them for a spell.... Li and Jack went on a two day vacation trusting Poppy around Finn not knowing what was up ..Possibly those mind altering mints..Finn might have been introduced along with a beer and one thing led to another....Finn doesn't remember but Poppy does..Li somehow found out and want to protect Finn's family with the entitled Stuffy ho ...
Absolutely! I believe Li had something to do with Hollis’s death but Tom’s death I think it was Li!!! Where does Justin fit in? 😮
They need to get this over. I hope Katie confides in her sisters and Brooke gets Bill to meet her and she feels he needs to go to his doctor to have the test done again. He can still have Luna live with him but not Poppy who is playing you because she believes both sisters know who the father is.
I believe she made a deal with Poppy to give her dollar Bill to protect both Finn and Luna whom she believes could be the father not Tom Starr...She would go as far as murder to keep that scandal from coming forth ..
The ratings have dropped because people are tired of the same old storyline with the Logan/Forrester feud that Steffy keeps dragging up and also tired of Steffy bullying everyone. What needs to happen is another fashion house needs to open up so that it can Be Forrester’s rival company like Spectra was, and go back to having fashion shows.
I agree. If Jackie M we’re still around, and I were Hope, I would leave Forester Creations and bring Hope for the future to them instead.
I agree, really tired of Steffy. Maybe she ought to get "unalived"
Hope is doing just as Steffy so it’s both of them. Steffy being petty and Hope trying to sleep with her husband.. these two. But funny Steffy is so against Brooke and Brooke is the only one trying to convince her daughter to leave Steffy’s husband alone but Steffy is in her feelings and as any daughter would just taking it out on Brooke like Ridge said.
That's what I been saying also ❤
@@ds3146please let's get hope her own company ❤
If Finn is Luna’s father then she might not want it out cause that would make Sheila Luna’s grandmother. She might be trying to protect Luna.
And wouldn’t Finn remember if he slept with his aunt and wonder if he was Luna’s father? He has never once commented or wondered if he could be the father that I know of! It must be Jack or Tom.
Where does Poppy get her money? She hasn’t worked since she’s got there.
money for what? why would Poppy need money?
Yeah Poppy just be hanging around & not working 😅
@@spicyhot2552 why would she need to work? she should be planning Katie's murder. If Poppy actually murdered Tom, then she was totally justified, as she would obviously be if she eventually murders Katie. I admire people who are willing to do whatever it takes to be happy & stay happy.
She hooked a very rich man for now, she does not need to work. Before Bill there could have been other men with alot of money. Poppy is a grifter. Don't believe Bill is The Dad.
@@kkennedy1773 I don't have a problem with women who sponge off of rich men, as long as they treat those men nice & fairly without abusing them or taking more from them than they are willing to give. Bill is not a victim. Bill is happy with his current situation & unlikely to regret it, as long as Katie stays in her lane.
I'm tired of all of this already the Dead storyline
Justin did it to protect Bill
When is Steffy going to get hers? She is in everyone's business. Then looks to Finn with poor me eyes 🤔
@@christinaruiz3571 He ought to be tired of her. She never should have never been a boss. She had a baby by Liam. Finn needs someone else.
I think Jack is Luna's dad it's not Bill could be Tom. Poppy was being busy.kattie better be careful. Poppy going to jail.
Katie needs to mind her own business. Just because she has a son with Bill does not give her the right to dictate who he sees. She was with Carter. Go back to him.
Will not watch any scene she is in. She is such a drama queen and who barges in to their ex husband’s house anytime they want.
You’re absolutely right! My “dizzy” mistake! Thanks!!
First! Might take, Poppy took lead in murdering Tom with Li’s help. I think Poppy remembered Tom kept a stash of his letters on him, and went back to the restaurant to get Tom’s bag. Hollis recognized Poppy and ended up being poisoned. I don’t think Lee was involved in Hollis’s death.
why was Tom so certain it was him
@@ramoncarter3121 Because they'd had a sexual relationship. Maybe she was covering up for the real father.
Again if you watched Poppy was one of Tom’s groupies and, he would have him go back stage with him once he was done playing at his concerts, they hangout together all the time and done drugs and, formed a relationship! And, well , one night I take it things got out of hand and, supposedly she was to have gotten pregnant then, aka/ but, the real truth is, I am guessing she was also getting it on hot and heavy with her young nephew, aka/ Finn! Poppy was probably, I’m sure feeding both of them a bunch of lies! 9:53
Because Poppy told him so, the letters that Hollies saw were between Tom & Poppy mentioned about Luna.
@@carenlee3612 But Poppy herself may not have known who the real father is, if she slept with Tom and Bill both, about the same time.
Yeah, was it gratitude for Bill, trying to protect Finn, or Poppies blackmail? We'll see, good mystery!
Li thought Poppy would rig the test! So that’s why she performed it
I've been saying it since this mystery began that Li didn't fool me and her being a Dr. wasn't impressive that didn't put her above the law. Li has been just as nasty and evil as she could be every since she's been on the show. Li has beenb the culprit in these murders to hide her family disgusting, embarrassing family secret involving Poppy sleeping with her husband Jack and her adopted stepson Finn. Can't nobody talk about Sheila being dangerous because Li is just dangerous, if not more than Sheila. Now Finn is about to find out that his Dr. Li Step-Mom and his Mother Sheila are both murderous, crazy, maniac women. Yessss, Steffys Karma is finally about to begin! 😅😂😅
@nannarav8754 absolutely Li and poppy are both scandalous and sheila is innocent and bill defending poppy to deacon yesterday he's so out of character I can hardly watch him anymore
The problem with these murders are that these guys are not heavily used players. Yes, I was sorry to see Hollis offed, eye candy😊but maybe they can bring Hollis back as a twin
I think Finn is the only person that Li cares about, if she's involved then I think that she's trying to protect Finn from something either Luna being his daughter or his sister otherwise Li's involvement makes no sense
sister wouldnt be that big of a deal to kill over
@@ramoncarter3121 I'm going to hold on to my theory.
What I can’t believe is that the BB writers had no better storyline to come up with than this entire , “Who’s the Real Daddy” and then two more senseless murders to boot‼️.. You’d think they could be more creative than writing the same ole same ole baby drama🙄
BB is a hack he can't write anything.
I think it was Poppy that killed Tom and she found out about the letters and came there and that's when she killed Hollis I still believe Finn is Luna's father Justin would not have a reason to kill either one but he did look suspicious today my bet is Poppy and she's going to get caught when she tries to kill Katie but I believe poppy is the one that will die
Is there really absolutely any fans out there that cares about this show much less anything about the Li and poppy lies and evilness???
I sure as hell don't this show needs to be revamped from the top down.
Although these scenarios could be plausible, I don’t think Lee would help Poppy with anything! She is much too rigid and I don’t think she would do anything to risk her medical career. What I’m really hating right now is what they’ve done to Katie. It’s really none of Katie‘s business. She didn’t go heavy like this on Liam or Wyatt Smothers. They seem to all had a reason for not letting Bill know he was a dad.
I think Jack and Poppy are the parents of Luna and Li suspects it
Bill and Li are in on the paternity.
It's looking more and more like Dr Finn is the Luna daddy
Gross that is her nephew and incest
I like how dective Baker said to Katie stick what your good at and thats fashion and leave the investage to me
Katie needs to investigate privately and stop telling Li anything...but she would prob never expect Finn....who would other than these 4? Bill is too smart to fool Poppy...but so is Katie. I hope Li or P doesn't try to kill Katie now!!😢😢
I think poppy was genuinely relieved to find that bill is child's father by the test.
Li visited Finn’s office before the DNA test. Did she find a way to get a DNA sample w/o his knowledge so she could falsify the test?
When Luna first appeared at Forrester Creations, Li was mean to Luna and told her to go back to the Bay Area. Li didn’t want Luna anywhere near Steffy and Finn. Might she have wanted Luna to stay away because Luna is Finn’s daughter?
I like the murder plot. Finally it’s a story that can hold my attention. Sorry we had to lose Hollis and Tom to get the story going but at least it works. And it’s certainly WAY better than Brooke reprising ‘Brooke’s Bedroom.’ Her face has so much filler inside it. It’s artificial and looks like it hurts.
I can't tell she wants protect Luna how nasty she was trying run her out of town at beginning
@larrycarter3593
I sooo soooo agree 💯.
Li KEPT! telling them to LEAVE TOWN. She was HATEFUL TOWARDS THEM! It was HORRIBLE!😠 NOW!!!THE WRITERS!! have FLIPPED THE SCRIPT ! 🙄 underrating our intelligence as usual!😡😡
I truly believe Finn is the father. An I believe Lil is hiding something 🤔
Incest is disgusting yuck
Finn being the dad would be “soapiest”
Bill would also be grateful to Li for getting Sheila accused of the deaths.
Poor bill his heart and spirit will be broken.
Nah. Not Bill.
But it will make for great scenes with him. He’s such a great actor!
@@cathynuytten798 I loved him as Brad on YR as well.
Wondering how long B&B can survive
Did we forget that Bill did have a daughter named Caroline Spencer who later married Thomas Forrester?
@@renegoodman6213 she was his niece.
I said from day one that Li did it
Li killed Tom and Hollis. Jack or Finn slept with poppy and have Luna. Li does not want the disgrace in her family. Luna is not Bill’s daughter.
Or could Jack be dear Luna's bio dad?
@maryhutcheson1908
At the very BEGINNING OF THIS MESS! I’ve said OVER AND OVER AGAIN that I thought Poppy slept with her sisters husband! The way Li was talking TO!!! AND ABOUT! Poppy and Luna was HATEFUL AND RIDICULOUS 😠 Therefore if Poppy slept with Jack! He COULD BE THE FATHER! I’ve ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WAS JACK! IMO
Justin surely was giving some shifty looks in today's episode.
Please get rid of Poppy soon.
Lee will only kill for Finn. She does not ca re that much about anyone else; in my opinion.
Yes they keep their secrets and I don’t think Bill is her dad it’s Tom are Finn
I totally agree with you, when Li said that the test was 100% correct, I thought, “NO medical test is 100%”, she is looking more guilty to me all the time. Also, is it me, or does it seem hair and makeup is failing Luna? She has always looked so cute and attractive, and lately she has not…..maybe she will end up being sick and need a kidney or blood and Bill wont match??????? Just a thought.
Li can be twice as evil as Shelia if you didn’t know! Go back and watch old episodes of Y & R when, Li was Shelia’s boss when, they worked together at the hospital! 9:53
Li was on Y&R?? I don't remember that.. I've been watching that show for years... I guess too many years because my memory is failing me right now lol
@@sonyafox3271
Luna, Poppy, Li all could go and nit come back. ESPECI ALLY Poppy.@@sonyafox3271
I am personally turned off by the fact that they’re trying to rehabilitate Sheila. They have also let Taylor , Quinn, Wyatt go and have not brought in any new characters. Crossover some Y & R character. Lauren can come in and sit Finn down and set the record straight about his egg donor mother.
It has to be someone who
is leaving the show?
Bill is Lunas dad. Period Not Fin̈ and definitely not Tom. Bill deserves something good
Katie is putting two and two together and she is going to find out that poppy and Lunar is not Bills real daughter.
I feel bad for Luna ,she is the innocent.
@@DeniseThomson-d1pheck she could be involved to. I won't put it past any of them Luna, Li, Poppy and Jack
@@janeicelewis2267 I don't believe Luna is .
So Katie has found a possible link between Poppy and Tom. It’s not smart for her to go running and confront her.
@@bettyebelton395 crazy but then again the detectives are not too bright and obey foresters,Logan's and Spencer's .
I don't think Bill is the daddy. Furthermore, I've taken to only watching the show here and there. It just isn't good.
Love your quote at the end about burying the ratings 😅😅
I no longer care to burst my brain over anything Brad Bell writes. It's clearly he himself hasn't yet figured out who's the daddy or the killer. For all I care it could be Jesus 😂😂😂. I'm over this show right now😊
Don't care about any of this except that if Bill loves Luna and Poppy, he should tell Katie to back off.
I'm more convinced than ever that Bold will be canceled.
Maybe they are going to drop B&B to make room for The Gates the new soap opera 🎉🎉
@@frenchie2102 Yep, that's what it looks like to me!
I maybe in the minority, but Luna is boring. RJ is boring. And I can’t stand Poppy. Good grief, I fast forward more than I watch. Bring back Wyatt. At least he can act.
I agree with u about Li,Poppy,Luna,RJ,, they are a waste of time but this got bigger issues that goes beyond them the show is just boring and repetitive there is no creativity at all Brad Bell needs to be fired already CBS needs to gett off their lazy assess and just fire him asap!
finn is luna father........
Luna is Jack daughter, and Finn is Bill Spencer son 😂 haha.
I think Li lied about Bill being Luna's dad - who will end up being Jack - and Li knows Jack is the father! I think Justin was at Deacon's restaurant to "help" Bill with the "Luna is my daughter" story -- Bill knew about Tom and doesn't want Luna to find out he is really her father -- which he wasn't -- but I do think Bill thinks he was.... I think the killer is either Poppy or Justin or an odd person who has it out for Deacon.... Hollis knew the killer - did he know Justin? Jack? Li? Poppy? We know he knew Luna -- and we know Bill did not like their friendship.... I think we are going to see a Bill and Katie reunion soon....
Well maybe Finn is the dad of Luna 😅
Yes li would help her sister she want to continue protect family name
How old is Finn? Is he old enough to have a 20 yr old daughter?
Finn is about 40 years old
Ratings drop could be fixed with a Thope reunion! And if writers would stop dragging the same storyline on and on for months!!
I just said something similar! That the story of Hope and Thomas was the only story I was invested in. Now, since that story is over (it seem), all other stories seem dumb
Yes...bring bk Thomas and Hope...true ❤️. And stop her daydreaming about Finn or anyone else.
Yes..pls....stop the dragging of these stories...so true! Need a faster turn around time....yes I am a lab tech...but ppl come on!!! That does make ppl lose interest and ratings drop. Solve the stories faster and then go from there ❤❤😅
Hope doesn’t deserve thomas he’s better with Paris
Is Li somehow Luna's Mom?!
Wow! Now that would be a twist! Good thinking.
Maybe Luna is the killer
I want Poppy to be. Do not like that one.
It's not Shelia or Li
Keep in mind that the soap normally don't let us guest what's going om.
Poppy gave Finn some mints.
I agree. I think that Li knows that Finn is Luna's dad and is hiding it. I am not sure about Jack. I noticed that Jack made the comment about doing anything for Poppy. I am also wondering about Justin. I am sticking to the Finn is Luna's daddy theory. Now, Belinda, do you know anything about what is going on with the actor who played Hollis? I hope he lands another role in another soap. Anything on this?
Yes Hollis was a cutie.
Katie better watch her step because everyone that starts digging into Poppy's path has ended up dead , she may be opening up a can of worms that she shouldn't,I know she has a son with Bill but it's not her business to keep butting into his life with someone else what Poppy said about her wanting Bill back is so true because you can see it written all over her face.She best to tread lightly and mind her own business.
The one thing I agree with everyone on is this show has become very sorry, they focus on the same stuff to long until it gets boring you know what would make a good story line is that Steffy and Thomas start their own fashion house and bring Zende on board and watch how Forrester Creation business would drop because Ridge is always saying how much Brooke has contribute to the company but what about Thomas and Zende contributions they should compete against Ridge and see how long Forrester Creation would last,now this would be exciting to watch.
@@London250 yes please
Poppy seemed genuinely shocked and was in tears when she heard Tom was dead so l dont think poppy knew or had anything to do with his death. For some Reason Li faked the DNA test to make Bill the father, l think Li must be involved in the murder for some reason we dont know yet
Even though Li despises her sister Poppy I can definitely see Li joining forces with Poppy to keep the dark shameful secret that Finn is really Luna's father. Poor Finn not only does he has a obsessive nut like Hope trying to get in his pants but he could also have a grown daughter. 😮
Incest is digusting
This is a stcky murderous situation...i still think.Jack could be Luna's father .because Jack's a cheater ..i think Jack slept with Poppy over 20yrs ago while Poppy was on those mints ..Poppy was also sleeping with Tom & maybe she led Tom.to.believe he was Luna's father ,Poppy also slept with Bill ..so she told Bill he possibly could be Luna's father & Li helped her set it up so the truth wont come out
That is a 18 year difference, totally possible. My husband was 18 when we conceived our daughter, and we were married. 20 plus 18=38....
No test is 100%. People are keeping big secrets. I think it's a good mystery. The only time Poppy has smiled in forever is around Bill 💕
Bring Thomas back
i think li killed tom. For some reason.
Li did it ,she has a evil streak.
Li was definitely lying when she was talking to Katie. Her facial expressions said it all. She looked very uncomfortable, but was trying to “play it cool”. She was so disingenuous and phony. I can’t wait until they are all exposed! But I agree this scam is more to benefit Luna and not Poppy. Once Bill dumps Poppy, she will go after Ridge or Eric. And speaking of Ridge, he is looking more handsome lately.
So sick of Katie! She dumps Carter because Bill has a new girlfriend. She has no life so she makes it her mission to insert herself into Bill’s life and home. She has absolutely zero chemistry with Bill. I wish she was leaving the show.
Yes, Li did it. Bill , her saviour.
But in the beginning li didn't like luna
If Finn is Lunas Father he would have known he slept with Poppy 20 years ago so why wouldnt he suspect he could be the father , he never asked poppy if he could be the father, also Finn is in his Mid 30's so he woud have been 15 years of age when he slept with Poppy
This so so stupid so the writer’s want Li to ruin her reputation for a sister she don’t even like BS
They should get rid of bold and beautiful
I think Li did help Poppy just to protect Luna and Finn. This show has gone downhill.
I've commented this before, Luna father could be Jack. Lee or Jack could be the Killer. I Think Sheila Knows Who the KILLER could be.
It's been said that Steffy loses her passport, therefore has to miss the trip to Monte Carlo. I hope that Hope is the one who hides it from her, LOL. 🤣
Yes I do think that Li would help poppy NO Doubt
People just leave steffy alone plus brook is to old
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Bold is at the end. They changed the characters' personality, and its not working. Hope is a whole other person. Wanting a married man,dreaming of sex. Steffy is a controlling. Finn is an idiot. Luna story has been going on too long. The Sugar, Sheila storyline was dumb. Sheila could have stayed dead. She doesn't have a storyline. How long are they going to drag out Tom and Hollis murder. I wish they get back to fashion. I can't watch any more because the show really doesn't have a clear direction. It seems like they are writing anything and hoping it sticks.
I have been saying that Bold is creatively dead and that Brad Bell would make the show worse not better.