I'm a full-on atheist who's got a solid 0.00001% chance of being converted, but I just wanna say I'm happy that YOU'RE one of the big Christian apologists. You have a very kind/approachable demeanour. I always find it weird when I give out advice on how to convert atheists, but if I had to give advice, I'd tell someone to model after you. Despite what your live chat looks like, I feel sorta welcomed by you and I get to hear your POVs, which is interesting to me.
Wow, that’s really kind. I try to be gracious and appreciate em the encouragement. In terms of your conversion, I’m gonna have to quote Dumb and Dumber: “You’re telling me there’s a chance!” 😜😉
atheists have faith too, so you're not that different... just deceived, I'm sure you'll come around... depends on how much you value the truth really... good luck
This is soooo good! I wouldn't mind if it went on for another 4 hours! This interview gave a me an even deeper appreciation for the amazingness of Jesus. And I am so privileged to know that He walks with me everyday. Thank you Sean for your well-phrased questions, as always, and thank you Detective Wallace for the thoroughness and coherence of your answers. I'm from the Philippines but I'll make sure to get your book and also give it as gifts. 💞
his closing argument (is what it sounded like) to the question from the Mythicist was really superb - would not want to be on the receiving end of one of his prosecutions - he's good! He could mesmerize a jury with the eloquence and reasoning in his rhetoric.
This was a great interview!! I have cold case christianity and Its well written, useful and kept my interest. I plan on getting this new book Person of Interest. I love listening to all of the different aspects of life that point to our God and Savior! Thanks for the interview I appreciate all you do Sean. Your ministry on TH-cam is fruitful and I truly enjoy it.
One Solitary Life He was born in an obscure village, the child of a peasant woman. He grew up in another obscure village where he worked in a carpenter shop until he was thirty. He never wrote a book. He never held an office. He never went to college. He never visited a big city. He never travelled more than two hundred miles from the place where he was born. He did none of the things usually associated with greatness. He had no credentials but himself. He was only thirty three when his friends ran away. One of them denied him. He was turned over to his enemies and went through the mockery of a trial. He was nailed to a cross between two thieves. While dying, his executioners gambled for the only property he had on earth, his clothing. When he was dead, he was laid in a borrowed grave through the pity of a friend. Nineteen centuries have come and gone, and today he is the central figure of the human race and the leader of mankind's progress. All the armies that have ever marched All the navies that have ever sailed All the parliaments that have ever sat All the kings that ever reigned put together Have not affected the life of mankind on earth As powerfully as that one solitary life.
Amigo, gracias por este poema. Estoy pasando por un mal momento y este pequeño poema me hizo ignorarme de mi dolor y mis tediosas quejas y poner mi consuelo y tristeza en el dolor que sufrio ese carpintero judío. Si pudieras proporcionarme tu nombre y el derecho de compartir este poema te lo agradecería, ahora si no fuera tuyo podrías darme el nombre del autor. Gracias y bendiciones hermano 🇬🇹
Twelve Ordinary Men- John Macarthur : Among those who stayed with Christ were the Twelve, whom He had personally selected and appointed to represent Him. They were twelve perfectly ordinary, unexceptionable men. But Christ's strategy for advancing His kingdom hinged on those twelve men rather than on the clamouring multitudes. He chose to work through the instrumentality of those few fallible individuals rather than advance His agenda through mob force, military might, personal popularity, or a public relations campaign. From a human perspective, the future of the church and long-term success of the gospel depended entirely on the faithfulness of that handful of disciples. There was no plan B if they failed. ... The Kingdom advances "Not by might, nor by power, but by My Spirit' says the Lord of Hosts" (Zechariah 4:6) There's another striking reality in this. When Jesus chose the Twelve to be his official representatives - preachers of the gospel who would carry both His message and His authority - he didn't choose a single rabbi. He didn't choose a scribe. He didn't choose a Pharisee. He didn't choose a Saducee. He didn't choose a priest. Not one of the men He chose came from the religious establishment. The choosing of the twelve apostles was a judgement against institutionalized Judaism. It was a renunciation of those men and their organizations, which had become totally corrupt. That is why the Lord didn't choose one recognized religious leader. He chose instead men who were not theologically trained - fishermen, a tax collector, and other common men.
@38:38 JWW encouraged young Christians to get involved in scientific research. That's a very good advice. I second it. If they like it, young students should pursue careers in biology research, because there's so much to learn and discover in biology, that could lead to new medicines and treatments, specially in the fascinating area of control systems (e.g. bioelectric networks, morphogenetic codes and regulatory genomics/epigenomics that are being deciphered using deep learning techniques). Biology is the new queen of science, while Math and Physics are the efficient advisors of the new queen. Physics seems to experience a partial stagnation and much speculation, while exciting biology discoveries are piling up at an accelerated pace, making it very difficult to grasp even a very specialized portion of them. It's really becoming unbelievably mind-boggling. Biology research is discovering wonderful complex functionally specified information systems, which empirically we know that can be created only by intelligent minds. Unlike Physics, there is no much room for speculation in Biology, because technological advance is increasingly making it possible to observe biological processes in vivo. In Biology the more we know, more is there for us to learn. As the outstanding questions get answered, many new ones are raised. But it's what we know, not the unknown, that increasingly points to the indescribable mind of Logos. We don't worship fictional "gods of gaps", but the God of the whole show, as professor Lennox has stated so clearly. When we realize that our amazing Creator has graciously provided the Way for us to someday be in His glorious presence without the universal time constraints, we are awestruck. Praise Adonai Eloheinu!
I'm really interested in what he has to say about the Messianic prophecies. His button analogy is quite thought-provoking. It is so sad that apologists pay little attention to discussing the prophecies that point to Jesus as expressed in the NT. Honestly, its scary to me. Dr. Michael Brown has a series, but its a ton of books and one references the other. You have to have his entire library it seems just to track down a few facts. I'm not sure why he has not produced a succint book on the best and some of the hardest prophecies. Anyway, I'll be getting the book. Now will I have time to complete it???? That's the question!
Tremendous stuff, the detective's approach to the subject and his conclusions. I only wish one of them flashed some close-ups of the way the inside pages of the book are looking, how "picture-book-like" it actually is and how the font is really easy to read.
Another explanation of many of the fulfilled 'prophecies' is that Jesus was filling to the full (fulfilling) David's story and Israel's story. Therefore, it wasn't always the author saying, 'look! Jesus fulfilled this prediction!' But rather 'look! Jesus identified with Israel/David/etc. in this way!'
In Jewish tradition there are 4 ways of interpreting the text of Tanakh. The literal meaning and the allegorical meaning and the hinted at meaning and the hidden meaning. The NT writers didn’t always use the literal interpretation face value contextual meaning of the verses they quoted from Tanakh. Often they interpreted them using the allegorical meaning or the hidden meaning or the hinted at meaning of the verses they quoted in light of the events of the life of Jesus and what he said and did as the fulfillment of the prophecies concerning Mashiach Ben Yosef in his first advent and the yet to be fulfilled prophecies he will fulfill concerning Mashiach Ben David in his second advent. Often they quoted from the Greek LXX Septuagint translation instead of the literal Hebrew original like when Matthew’s gospel quotes Isaiah 7:14 from the LXX where the literal Hebrew HaAlmah meaning the young maiden that may or may not be a virgin is translated in Greek as He Parthena meaning the virgin so perhaps that just makes the hinted at meaning more clear. Matthew also quotes Hosea 11:1 where it’s talking about HaShem loving Israel when he was a lad and calling his son from Egypt. The literal context speaks of the Exodus but the hidden meaning is a prophecy about Jesus leaving Egypt as a lad. Jesus as Mashiach represents Israel as the king of Israel and is the servant of HaShem in Isaiah 53 even though Isaiah quotes HaShem calling Israel his servant earlier in the servant songs because as Mashiach and King of Israel Jesus represents Israel and is the ultimate Jew because he alone was perfectly Torah observant
The reason why the standard is higher for Jesus is that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. If I told you I owned a car vs a Lamborghini vs a spaceship would have increasing doubt based off the same amount of evidence
jesus did not transform music and art...the church ruled with an iron fist...all music was religiosu all painting...imagine what great music could have been written with better subject matter...and i still dont get the big deal about jesus...he said a few nice things nothing that anyone else couldnt think of...he died telling his freinds hed be back before they died...and he didnt...very overblown legacy unless osmeone can help me and tell me what the big deal is
@@hellonewman5855 caesar shakespeare beethoven mohammed washington kubla khan marco polo hammurabi cleopatra mao tse tung sorry wrong again..these were all "m,ere mortals" just like your dead jewish carpenter
Jesus is not my dead Jewish carpender. I'm not a Christian! You asked for an explanation of Jesus' overblown lagacy: the ancient Roman world conferred upon Jesus the status of deity and that status has persisted to this day. His fame results from a theological designation and nothing else.
@@iampostal I'm beginning to think you're just messing with me. You're making my point and yet missing my point. Aristotle, Mozart, Alexander the Great etc. all had historic accomplishments which established their immortal legacy. These were self-made men. What did Jesus do? He became a god. He did nothing while alive to merit immortality. After his death the ancient Roman world transformed Jesus into a deity. All of his fame stems from that fact. During his life Jesus was an unremarkable Jewish apocalyptic preacher. Mozart was a musical genius famous in his lifetime throughout Europe; Jesus was a nobody.
It is so interesting that Jesus had such a huge impact on culture and the creation of various aspects , and now it seems that Satan is working so hard to bring everything down to his level, bringing sin into everything.
Imagination is God in man so wake up yourself, Paul hinted Phil 2:5Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
u cant prove Jesus without scripture, because the scripture testify about him. If we have no scripture, we have no Jesus. How can we know the authority in Jesus without scriptures.
I did an examination of my own: Judas had a week long meditative experience of Jesus Christ for which he was shanghaied to India, where he started the Mar Thoma Church. The historic Jesus is Barabbas and came later, as per Ralph Ellis' chronology. We are left with a mountain of colonialism and misogyny grounded on roman fascism and it needs to move to the ground of truth and be the mountain of love it's supposed to be. And one miracle by which christians are encouraged to demonstrate their faith; MOVE IT!
Your idea that Christianity invented sexism and "colonialism" is just historically false. My guess is you were taught that by a secular activist or someone to that effect, and they probably made you believe a lot more falsehoods. That's what these people do, lie and manipulate to push their agenda. You, like so many others, turned away from the true God and turned to a cult to fill the void. I feel sympathy that you were brainwashed by one of these people, but I cannot abide you trying to turn others away from the truth.
@@DiggitySlice The Roman Empire invented colonialism. It persists, for some reason; any ideas? You guess away, you manipulative stranger. I turned away from celestial bullshit. I know what coherence feels like: if you grow up in church dogma, you'll never know. I left the church when i was 5, on my own. The rest of my family stopped going the next weekend. Christian mystics should have called us! !!! !! I'm *REALLY PISSED* at *christian* mystics!
@@DiggitySlice While searching for Him, i had a profound meditative experience; one full week of visions; a week of greek decent and return. Meaningless? You would have me believe my experience is meaningless.
@@DiggitySlice "...they probably made you believe a lot more falsehoods." 😂😂😂 Look in a mirror to see one believing a lot, a clearly defined lot of falsehoods. Jesus Christ is a meditative experience of coherence; and you proselytize the opposite. There is what coherence feels like and, there's ignoringing what incoherence feels like: you check yourself.
The historical record shows *_NOTHING_* about Jesus without relying on the New Testament other than that a person named Jesus existed and some people worshiped him a long time ago. This is because Jesus does not exist in the historical record, outside of the New Testament (which really isn't a historical record), except as a few sentences referencing Christians of the time. This is utterly ridiculous... without the oral tradition that became the New Testament, there would be nothing about Jesus known today. Even the tiny tidbits that show up in secular writings are based on what the Christians of the time believed, aka the oral tradition that became the New Testament. Beyond that, its funny that he admits that the stories were reliant on the spread of the Roman Empire... meaning that the story was less important than the time and place. Gasp! When you make a set of traits that are from the New Testament stories about Jesus, then compare them to some other myths, you come up with the stories about Jesus as the one that fits them the most? Wow! Guess what... if you made a set of traits from one of the other myths, then compared them to all the other myths, only the one that you made the set from would contain all the traits. Science, math, music, etc didn't come from Christianity. The Christian scientists in the Middle ages were building on what came before from people like Egyptians, Muslims, Phoenicians, etc. Nothing starts or ends with Christians. What utter nonsense... He should write a book about how to go from a failed detective to making a great living from lying to believers.
*Quote:* "without the oral tradition that became the New Testament, there would be nothing about Jesus known today" *Answer:* The *atheist/agnostic historian* Bart Ehrmann claims that there are non-biblical sources mentioning Jesus of Nazareth in the book "Does Jesus exist? A historical argument for the existence of Jesus". If you will not take it from me, then at least take it from him. Below are all non-biblical sources mentioning Jesus or his movement. - Pliny, Thallus, Lucien, Tacitus, Celsus, Mara-bar Serapion, Josephus and the Talmud (non-biblical sources by non-Christians). - Letters by the church fathers (non-biblical sources by Christians) ___________________________________________ Josephus *does* mentions Jesus of Nazareth in "Antiquities of the Jews". Quote: "wise man called Jesus /.../ And many people from among the Jews and the other nations became his disciples. Pilate condemend him to be crucified and to die." There is only one person named Jesus that was condemned by Pilate and had a following of gentiles as well. And no, it was not an interpolation. There is a historical core. Josephus did NOT copy that from Christians, because the martyrdom of James is NOT mentioned in the New Testament. _______________________________________________ Here is all the info we get about Jesus from non-biblical sources: a) Josephus and Lucian indicate that He was regarded as wise and b) Pliny, the Talmud, and Lucian imply He was a powerful and revered teacher and c) Josephus and the Talmud indicate He performed miraculous feats and d) Tacitus (in "Annals"), Josephus (in "Antiquituis of the jews"), the Talmud, and Lucian all mention that He was crucified and e) Tacitus and Josephus say this occurred under Pontius Pilate and f) the Talmud declares it happened on the eve of Passover and g) there are possible references to the Christian belief in His resurrection in both Tacitus and Josephus and h) Josephus and Celsus record that His followers believed He was Messiah or the Son of Elohim and i) Pliny and Lucian indicate that Christians worshipped Him as a Deity and j) Mara of Syria (Mara Bar Serapion) suggests that calamites came to be partially as a result of the execution of the wise King of the Jews and k) Phlegon indicates (with Thallus indicating something similar?) that there was an eclipse of the sun during the full moon that was accompanied with earthquakes during the reign of the emperor who was in power from 14 CE to 37 CE and l) both Tacitus and Suetonius indicate that Christians were punished by the emperor who was in power from 54 CE to 68 CE and m) there was even a huge fire as far away as the Italian Peninsula that was blamed on followers of Him as early as 64 CE.
@@hhstark8663 None of the writings about Jesus you just sited are first hand accounts of Jesus, they all stem from the oral tradition that developed after Jesus' life... which became the New Testament.
@@timeshark8727 Since when do we need primary sources to accept historical events? All historians accept secondary sources and the vast majority of what we know from the ancient world (e.g. the roman empire) are from secondary sources. The martyrdom of James for example is NOT in the New Testament. Therefore, we know that Josephus did NOT get his information from the New Testament.
@@hhstark8663 I don't recall limiting anything to primary sources. The New Testament wasn't in existence at the time of Josephus, so duh he didn't get his info from it... he got it from the Christians who were repeating the oral traditions that _became_ the new testament... try to keep up, I've said most of this before.
@@timeshark8727 The New Testament does not even mention the martyrdom of James and therefore the christians did not know about it! Josephus must have gotten that info from a jewish source.
I get so disappointed in Christians that refuse to stand and say CATHOLICISM IS NOT CHRISTIANITY!! I was raised Catholic and I know what is involved. Mary is the intercessor between God and man…you pray to her and she prays to Jesus. They also say SHE was the one born of a virgin! They literally DO NOT believe what the Bible says…they say it is faulty because it was written by man…not inspired by God as it claims to be. They pray to dead people to help them instead of God. They use the EXACT same icons as did the worship of Semiramis and Tammuz…the son Gods child…and they call Mary the ‘queen of heaven’ which was a goddess condemned in scripture. They do literally everything the scriptures tell us not to…calling priests father…we have only one father…God! They do rituals and chants which are condemned in scripture. Stop saying what Catholicism did had anything to do with Christianity. It doesn’t. It’s so far distant that it’s no different than any other cult in the world….just larger.
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Reliable sources? Daniel doesn't fit, and neither does Ezekiel. Most of the prophecies were written after the fact and for Ezekiel, read chapters 26 and 29 and compare it to actual history. As for Jesus fulfilling prophecy, it's easy for people to shape a narrative to match prophecy when that prophecy was both written long ago and contains vague details allowing future generations to make leaps of logic to get there. Case closed!
I understand the concern that people could have gone back and changed the texts after the fact. I too share that concern and it's really important to see if that is the case! I think there's good evidence to believe why that's not the case, but I'm also not an expert. Aside from that, do you know of anyone who would want to fulfill a prophecy that says you die in one of the most painful and shameful ways known at the time? And all the while doing it KNOWING what you're saying about yourself isn't true, only to convince people you are the person the prophecy described? Would you be willing to do this? It gets even trickier when the second plausible explanation is that Jesus was a nut-job, which I think he clearly wasn't. That leaves only the last, third option, which seems absurd, that Jesus was God and the whole thing was planned. But the other two explanations don't seem to fit with his following and what happened after he died. Also, did JWW's point about a shirt button and tracing it to the suspect make sense? Because I think he addressed your concern of muddled prophecies with the topic of "cloaked prophecies". Maybe it would be an idea to read JWW's book and sort through it before closing the case (although maybe you've already done extensive research on the topic already!).
That detective is a clown, not unlike the clueless average apologist, and it would seem he threw his former skills right out of the window when he fell in love with fairy tales... Nicely demonstrated by Paulogia, but I doubt anyone without the religious confirmation bias is willing to hear him out: th-cam.com/video/UB6yFewRszo/w-d-xo.html
This guy has a doctorates and many successful books You have a snarky comment and no arguments of your own. Stop linking other peoples stuff and speak for yourself you puppet tongue
@@FalconOfStorms I'm going to assume that you're making some bizarre claim that opposition to the claims of evangelical Christianity is some demonically-inspired admission to its truth out of fear. You're entitled to believe that, just recognize that it's delusional.
@@reframepodcast and your assumption further proves the point. You are desperate and your behavior is bizarre. Normal people don't react like this to civil discussions about ideas.
@@FalconOfStorms Spare me. You weren't "civil" during the live chat, instead choosing to hurl insults at anyone who dared to question the very bad and inherently dangerous ideas JWW spouts. There is no "desperation" here. You're projecting onto me what you imagine it's like for me to be a non-believer. How do I know this? Because I *was* you.
@@reframepodcast Nobody insulted you. Your obsessive and rude behavior was noted. I don't have to imagine anything, you did it in the live chat and you're doing it here because something's not quite right with you. If you used to be a better person, go back to doing that. In case anyone is wondering, Scott was mad in the chat because he wasn't able to post a link attacking Sean's father in a civil discussion between two intelligent men about history and investigative skills. All of his comments were about on the level of his comment at the top of his thread.
Thank you so much Sean! I really enjoy your shows. So interesting, helpful and informative. And getting to know Christian leaders and others in a new way. Thank you! Your style is gracious and kind. May God keep you snd bless you! Num. 6:24-26 (A big thank you also to Dr. Wallace, such a blessing that God chose to use his life in such a unique way! :-))
I just read this book!!!! So good !! I can't believe how much he put into this book!! If you like crime novels or your wondering how crimes are found out!! You need this book! Or if your a Christian ,this book is eye opening ! So interesting! I'm readind parts at the dinner table to my family! So much good info!!!
Do you think that people were afraid of Jesus being the son of God because that meant losing control of the religion with the Jewish Rabbi’s in the Roman culture?
This is a fantastic insight - thanks guys. It speaks volumes about what is at risk with the cancel culture - it is a Judeo-Christian culture and society we live in.
We are in a dark time so you have to be the moon that reflects the Light. The biggest problem is the loud mouths who express harsh feelings towards the ones who are going a different route. Jesus showed love to sinners. We need to accept them, love them but we are not to accept their behavior as ok but also look to the ones He commands us to speak to. The brethren who are going astray. Gay, transgender, adulterer, they have to be convicted of their sins and not condemned by us because condemnation is from the enemy.
@Kipp Davis has created a video about J McDowell. Since you’ve tied your ministry close to him will you or J McDowell be responding? You seem like a very reasonable Christian and are willing to tackle tough questions and I applaud you for that. We should all be seekers of truth.
Thanks again Sean for such an insightful interview with Jim Wallace. Jim's idea is truly a great one. It disarms those who keep finding excuses for rejecting Jesus. Both you are such a blessing to the body of Christ. May the Lord Jesus Christ richly bless you and your families.
Would not be great if most religions had their content from actual gods actually being interviewed, instead of from books written by humans? Why is it that the first thing out of the table with ANY and EVERY religious claim, is the mighty GOD they are claiming into existence? I can understand that from the stories made with gods that do not exist, but is hard to make a case for it when the supernatural being is real, and even wants to deliver an important message to every and all humans...
@@hhstark8663 So the book says, yeah! Lots of books have interviews with this or that supernatural fauna. No supernatural fauna confirmed or denied any of them, EVER. ;)
Christianity has hundreds of fulfilled prophecy. That signifies a being outside of time influenced it. Most religions have either plenty of failed prophecies, or don't even try, because it's the best way to prove a false religion to be false
@@davidbell2547 every religion claims their fair share of fulfilled prophecies and miracles, yet no God trascenda space and time: they all have books instead. That betrays their common origin.
I'm actually with J when it comes to prophecy linkage skepticism. I thought the vast majority of the prophecies were cloaked in nature, so it makes me happy to know that there are still a good chunk that are not cloaked that directly point to Jesus.
Part of the reason the Old Testament prophecies of Jesus Christ are unimpressive is because you're reading the corrupted masoretic text in which the Rabbis of the 2nd century removed &/or altered critical passages to obscure Jesus' fulfillment of prophecy. The New Testament writers overwhelmingly quoted the (unaltered) Septuagint.
I also heard some of their material was rewritten. The plurality of God in the Old Testament is extremely obvious, but some Rabbis to my understanding rewrote parts to remove those pluralities. A bit shameful if you ask me.
Great guest, the book sounds. You two are a great team, you do interviewing very well. Still an admirer of your father, he must be so proud. Thanks, love and prayers.
15:37 - my hypothesis on why there is shared expectations, just as there is a shared flood story dealing w/ sin/ corruption between every ancient civilization I have looked into that had left a record of some sort, is because after the flood, until the Tower of Babbel, we were together and sharing these historical truths & revealed truths. God had chosen the Israelites to be the protectors of the Historical truths to pass on, as well as how to worship God, His plans to bring us back into communion w/ Him after the fall, etc. At the Tower of Babel, we didn’t listen to God’s commandment to go forth and multiply over the land, but huddled together, creating gods of men, so God confused our tongues (an interesting side note is that we are rapidly losing languages today,), and forced us to go out. Each w/ those who shared the same language, but maintaining the traditions and stories. These traditions and stories became more and more distorted from the original, overtime, only holding portions of the truth. The Israelites were chosen to be the protectors of the full, uncorrupted account (hence, the Chosen people). When Jesus came in the flesh, born into a virgin, fulfilling all the promises, He instituted His new Church, to be the protectors of the full revelations of God and how we are to properly worship Him and how we are to act and behave, w/ His new Bishop & Priest class.
The interview was amazing and I enjoyed Warner Wallace’s insights and how he connects the knowledge that he has acquired in his career with his faith. However, I felt troubled when he answered the last question at 59:50 (by the way, an AMAZING question). He says that there is a chance that he could be wrong about the Gospel and and that it could be possible that Jesus did not raise from the dead. The Gospel is the one thing that we as Christians don’t (shouldn’t) have even a hint of doubt about! Jesus Christ is not just true, He is the prerequisite of reality itself to exist! John 1 verse 3 tells us that: “All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made”. There it is right there. We can have doubts about anything BUT the Gospel. If reality is objective, there must be one immovable and undeniable Truth that was and is and will be true no matter what. And then Wallace proceeds to say “is it possible I’m wrong (about Jesus, as I understood it)? Of course, give me a break”. Well, as Christians, we may have no breaks when it comes to our faith in Jesus Christ. Jesus warned us to be either hot or cold, but not lukewarm. Rev 3:16 “So, because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth”. I acknowledge that believers go through seasons of weakened faith. We do live in a fallen world and must endure through spiritual warfare. But it seems to me that a believer’s default belief, being filled with the Holy Spirit, is that the Gospel is true and there may be no doubt about it.
I’ve read “cold case Christianity “…great book, easy to follow , evidence abound.. now with “ person of interest “ caps the evidence of Jesus and his divinity without using the Bible because not everyone believes in its truth. Classic evidence either with or without Bible… great idea
Hi Sean, I know that today is 2 months after this video. I have a question for you. If all of this information is out there as proof of Jesus. The fathers of science, the music history and so forth. My question is "How can atheist and scientology claim that Jesus doesn't exist as who he truly was". If the Man exist, the everything about him must be true as well!?? Again according to all of the Proof that Mr. Wallace has given.
1 Corinthians 2:4-5 "And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power: That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God."
I’m a LEOW and a Christian as is my husband. As important as this information is on the spiritual level, I love hearing the LE terms that Jim is using as he is explaining pure, Godly truth with factual history! 🖤💙🖤
@@zach2980people say God is fictional. Name just 1 fictional thing that isn't based, at least in some way, on something real. The almighty God exists, and every other god is a poor imitation of the real thing. You can't have an authentic anything without someone, somewhere making a copycat. But the copycat can't exist without an original
You mean the jesus that said you shouldn’t beat some slaves as hard as others....that jesus? No one....not one single person has ever proved he existed. If anyone had proved that, or for that matter ANY part of the Bible was true, they be sitting in their million dollar mansion admiring their Nobel Peace Prize sitting on their mantle over their fireplace. Alas, no one has!
Well for a start the Jewish "slave" (which historians debate if it was even correct to call them slaves) was allowed to leave if their master laid a finger on them according to the OLD testament (which is alot stricter) and for second the only time slave-master agreements are mentioned in the new testament says that slavemasters should love and care for their slaves and that slaves should love and respect their masters. I'm not even going to try put forward a case for Jesus yet because if I did you would think that we have to torch jaywalkers :/
@@filler7149 Thank You for your reply! However I’m going to have to call BS., The holey bible clearly states that a master may beat his slave as hard as he wants as long as said slave doesn’t die within a day or two (Deuteronomy 15:20) and there is to be no repercussions. The Bible is full of slavery, murder, child rape, incest and a myriad of other deplorable actions of which most are either carried out by your god or condoned by him. I noticed that ALL your statements aren’t backed up by a single bible verse that corroborates your story! Any book that condones the kind of behavior found within the pages of the Bible can not in any way possible be used as a moral guideline. To simplify: Definition of a christian: A belief that a jewish deity who lives in the sky but at the same time exists every where and is invisible but looks just like us will make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master so he can remove an evil curse that is upon your soul, that he put there, because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat the fruit from a magic tree! Man, christians are GULLIBLE!!! No wonder you start the brain washing at 2/3 yrs old...shame on all of you.
I have proof in a number of ways, just like Joseph Smith had a personal witness. Millions never believed him and he had evidences to back up his teachings. However I don’t have such evidences, except I have read the Book of Mormon a number of times. Watched the account of the “ First Vision” and read the Pearl of Great Price and Doctrine and Covenants as well as the Bible. If that is not suffice, then listen to the current Prophets , Seers and Revelators. If that doesn’t provide enough evidence, then it’s time you got on your knees and talk to God and await the answers?
What we know about Jesus, is the life of Christ according to witnesses and words written from Prophets, Seers and Revelators. What many of us fail to realise is the oerspective from those writers and their evidences. However if we consider when Jesus stated when we dig a hole and fall into that hole we may never get out, is out of the question because Jesus never said that? Similarly when Jesus scolded the man from Samaria and stated that Samaritans are often heathens, Jesus never stated that either. So what I attempt to bring to people’s minds is simple and even children should understand it. Jesus never wrote stories about Himself nor did He make any claims of criticism to any faiths, people, or specific groups such as the Romans etc. No it is only the writers that defined Samaritans, Romans and Jews, Christ only chastised those that were sinners among the people, not once did He speak to a nation, kindred or tongue, He was not the writer, He was the minister. Hence any purported Christian, or true believer of Christ, would not chastise, criticise, rebuke or any other against a Church or any believers but merely direct to the truth. For that same reason, we too cannot state that Evangelicals, Apologists, Catholics, Protestant of LDS etc are wrong except they preach against God and His kingdom! For too long we have those among us, professing to be Christians but often go against what Christ ministered! Evidences of God and Jesus Christ have been built upon from the beginning and exist to the end. To rule out scriptures, Prophets, Seers and Revelators, then truth would cease. However due to an Apostasy taking place after the death of Christ, it was necessary for God to restore the Gospel of Jesus Christ through The Book of Mormon. Now we can witness how the True Church of Christ has been restored as in The Church zig Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints. Know them by their fruits!
OMG! My ears are bleeding from all the stupid. Did those Roman roads reach to North and South America? Did they reach to the far East? To the southern end of Africa? To Australia? Of course not because the "world" is only the Mediterranean world.
Well heck, you cannot prove Jesus with scripture so doing it without is worth a shot I guess. But good for both of you, keep selling those books to the gullible and making bank on it.
@@SeanMcDowell thx. On another note, you spoke of science pointing to the truth of Christianity. Evolution is the most evidenced theory in earth system sciences. How can Christianity be true if the concept of a first humans is clearly fictional?
@@zach2980 Actually, it's not. There are probabilistic challenges to Darwinism raised by (non-Christian) mathematicians and computer scientists. There is also a harder obstacle in the fact that especiation needs a large influx of information (to produce new genes, proteins, etc.) at different stages, and information does not generate itself from random processes. Check Steven Meyer's work for more details on this.
@@andres.e. tell them to submit their work, they could then collect their Nobels. It would upend the most evidenced theory crossing all of earth system sciences.
@@zach2980 Your insistence shows you are 50 years behind in this discussion (I was too, until very recently). It's all published, by the way. If you care about truth, you should check it out. And yes, the theory has been upended. The are former neo-darwinists (again, non-Christians) saying a new theory is needed.
When I got to the part about the 6 areas of culture, I was blown away. I was a missionary with Youth With a Mission (YWAM) for 25 years, which is one of the top 2 largest missionary organizations in the world, the other being Campus Crusades for Christ. I worked with hospital ships in Africa and the South Pacific. Both organizations believe the best way to Disciple the Nations is to bring Christ into every aspect of a nations culture, by transforming or discipling all of the main areas that influence a culture the most. They identified 7 specific areas of focus and they are often referred to as the 7 Mind Molders or the 7 Spheres of Influence. They include the 6 in J’s list. They are: 1-Family 2-Economics (including Science, Technology & Business) 3-Government 4-Religion 5-Education 6-Communications/Media 7-Celebration (including Arts, Entertainment & Sports) Everything YWAM does around the world is designed around bring Jesus into these 7 Spheres of each culture we go to.
After retiring, I got my dream job teaching in a Christian Academy in San Salvador and was even able to teach history. On p 411 of Abeka's History of the World in Christian Perspective, 1995, Pensacola Christian College, we find this quote: "(Queen) Victoria spoke for the nation in her reply to a visiting African chief who asked her the secret of England's greatness. The queen did not take him to the Tower of London to see the glittering crown jewels or to hear the brilliant orators who debated in Parliament. Instead, she presented the chief with a Bible, and said, 'Here is the secret of England's greatness.'"
I agree some prophesies are hard to see in isolation. I think some prophesy requires looking at something big picture, For example Psalms book 1 Ps 1-41 poetically Genesis, starts with a man who is a tree of life and ends with a betrayed man like Joseph meant to save the world. Like the promise to Abraham to inherit the world as Roman's puts it, the Son of God will inherit the nations in Ps 2 in the first prayer of Psalms given by God to His Son. The world is fallen Ps 11-14 but who can climb the mountain of God Ps 15, and24? Who but the good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep, the king in Ps 22 23 24 allowing 'the meek to inherit the earth' in Ps 25 in the son and in the spirit of the Abrahamic promise to bless the nations in his seed and as part of the blessings of David that if he had a righteous son God would be His father.. The meek inherit the earth in Ps 37 (in the son) and how? Ps 35 the trial of Jesus Ps 41 the last supper. The church founded, paid for by the suffering of christ and forgiveness follows in Ps 30 31 32. In the big picture prophesy points to Jesus but if sometimes hard to see the forest for the trees. The mural in big picture points to Jesus, the seed of Abraham, the son of David, the son of God, the son of Man. I think a lot of prophesy is a strong argumen in the harmony of scripture as it sings in ensemble.
Many Jews will say that because Jesus did not fulfill a large number of Messianic prophecies, then he cannot be the Messiah. Christians likewise believe (or should believe) that Jesus did not fulfill a large number of Messianic prophecies, but we are looking forward to the day when he will. In other words, both Jews and Christians are waiting for the Messiah to come. It's just that for Christians, we know it will be the second coming of Jesus when those prophecies will be fulfilled, while Jews when envision that future day are thinking of it as the Messiah's first coming. It is bad logic to say that the yet unfulfilled prophecies prove that it can't be someone who already came once; all that needs to be allowed for is for the Messiah to come more than once. Cf. Hosea 6:3 (the coming/appearing as two in number) alongside James 5:7-9. This is what Christians have believed and known since the ascension announcement, yet too many times Christians act as though Jesus has already fulfilled all the prophecies he was meant to fulfill, and think that the Jews are wrong to still be awaiting that day when Messiah will come and make all things right.
Jesus demanded our Christians to abide by His Word and act as light and salt of the world. Where is the leadership in US Christian churches. I did not see many of them standing up for evils in this world, rather surrendering to the wicked and devils of this world.
This was awesome my pastor's wife and I were discussing. Very important things and 2 videos came up that were yours that really pointed to our discussion. God bless you
I was going to buy the book not now because what's the point if you don't think it's true. You can research Buda and not believe. Jesus is the only one alive. That's a miracle within itself. No other religion can do that.
I'm a full-on atheist who's got a solid 0.00001% chance of being converted, but I just wanna say I'm happy that YOU'RE one of the big Christian apologists. You have a very kind/approachable demeanour. I always find it weird when I give out advice on how to convert atheists, but if I had to give advice, I'd tell someone to model after you. Despite what your live chat looks like, I feel sorta welcomed by you and I get to hear your POVs, which is interesting to me.
Wow, that’s really kind. I try to be gracious and appreciate em the encouragement. In terms of your conversion, I’m gonna have to quote Dumb and Dumber: “You’re telling me there’s a chance!” 😜😉
atheists have faith too, so you're not that different... just deceived, I'm sure you'll come around... depends on how much you value the truth really... good luck
I used to be one of those. God had different plans for me.
@@detached Amen!
@@SeanMcDowell you took the quote right out of my mouth
I just filmed & uploaded my testimony this past week by the Grace of God. Amen!!!
This is soooo good! I wouldn't mind if it went on for another 4 hours! This interview gave a me an even deeper appreciation for the amazingness of Jesus. And I am so privileged to know that He walks with me everyday.
Thank you Sean for your well-phrased questions, as always, and thank you Detective Wallace for the thoroughness and coherence of your answers. I'm from the Philippines but I'll make sure to get your book and also give it as gifts. 💞
his closing argument (is what it sounded like) to the question from the Mythicist was really superb - would not want to be on the receiving end of one of his prosecutions - he's good! He could mesmerize a jury with the eloquence and reasoning in his rhetoric.
Great conversation! I learned a lot. Thank you gentlemen. 👍
I love listening this interview and the approach that J. Warner Wallace takes...hope to hear him more and have his book " Person of interest"
This was a great interview!! I have cold case christianity and Its well written, useful and kept my interest. I plan on getting this new book Person of Interest. I love listening to all of the different aspects of life that point to our God and Savior! Thanks for the interview I appreciate all you do Sean. Your ministry on TH-cam is fruitful and I truly enjoy it.
Wallace takes the liberal position on many key New Testament passages like the last 12 verses of Mark and various other doctrinal passages.
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That’s not liberal… that’s mainstream even among evangelicals.
@@ramigilneas9274 which means it is part of the apostasy of the the modern "church "
One Solitary Life
He was born in an obscure village,
the child of a peasant woman.
He grew up in another obscure village where he worked in a carpenter shop until he was thirty.
He never wrote a book.
He never held an office.
He never went to college.
He never visited a big city.
He never travelled more than two hundred miles from the place where he was born.
He did none of the things usually associated with greatness.
He had no credentials but himself.
He was only thirty three when
his friends ran away.
One of them denied him.
He was turned over to his enemies
and went through the mockery of a trial.
He was nailed to a cross between two thieves. While dying, his executioners gambled for the only property he had on earth, his clothing. When he was dead, he was laid in a borrowed grave through the pity of a friend.
Nineteen centuries have come and gone,
and today he is the central figure of the human race and the leader of mankind's progress.
All the armies that have ever marched
All the navies that have ever sailed
All the parliaments that have ever sat
All the kings that ever reigned put together
Have not affected the life of mankind on earth
As powerfully as that one solitary life.
Amigo, gracias por este poema. Estoy pasando por un mal momento y este pequeño poema me hizo ignorarme de mi dolor y mis tediosas quejas y poner mi consuelo y tristeza en el dolor que sufrio ese carpintero judío. Si pudieras proporcionarme tu nombre y el derecho de compartir este poema te lo agradecería, ahora si no fuera tuyo podrías darme el nombre del autor. Gracias y bendiciones hermano 🇬🇹
@@Apolo-dj3vr Awww things will get better. Hold on to Jesus- stay in His Word, listen to His voice 🫂
And 45:39 🙂
Twelve Ordinary Men- John Macarthur :
Among those who stayed with Christ were the Twelve, whom He had personally selected and appointed to represent Him. They were twelve perfectly ordinary, unexceptionable men. But Christ's strategy for advancing His kingdom hinged on those twelve men rather than on the clamouring multitudes. He chose to work through the instrumentality of those few fallible individuals rather than advance His agenda through mob force, military might, personal popularity, or a public relations campaign. From a human perspective, the future of the church and long-term success of the gospel depended entirely on the faithfulness of that handful of disciples. There was no plan B if they failed.
... The Kingdom advances "Not by might, nor by power, but by My Spirit' says the Lord of Hosts" (Zechariah 4:6)
There's another striking reality in this. When Jesus chose the Twelve to be his official representatives - preachers of the gospel who would carry both His message and His authority - he didn't choose a single rabbi. He didn't choose a scribe. He didn't choose a Pharisee. He didn't choose a Saducee. He didn't choose a priest. Not one of the men He chose came from the religious establishment. The choosing of the twelve apostles was a judgement against institutionalized Judaism. It was a renunciation of those men and their organizations, which had become totally corrupt. That is why the Lord didn't choose one recognized religious leader. He chose instead men who were not theologically trained - fishermen, a tax collector, and other common men.
Wow! What a fascinating subject! What an interesting way to approach the subject.
Thank you so much! We just ordered the book, can’t wait to read it with the kids.
ThankYou
Great arguments! Thank you for this.
@38:38 JWW encouraged young Christians to get involved in scientific research. That's a very good advice. I second it.
If they like it, young students should pursue careers in biology research, because there's so much to learn and discover in biology, that could lead to new medicines and treatments, specially in the fascinating area of control systems (e.g. bioelectric networks, morphogenetic codes and regulatory genomics/epigenomics that are being deciphered using deep learning techniques).
Biology is the new queen of science, while Math and Physics are the efficient advisors of the new queen. Physics seems to experience a partial stagnation and much speculation, while exciting biology discoveries are piling up at an accelerated pace, making it very difficult to grasp even a very specialized portion of them. It's really becoming unbelievably mind-boggling. Biology research is discovering wonderful complex functionally specified information systems, which empirically we know that can be created only by intelligent minds.
Unlike Physics, there is no much room for speculation in Biology, because technological advance is increasingly making it possible to observe biological processes in vivo. In Biology the more we know, more is there for us to learn. As the outstanding questions get answered, many new ones are raised. But it's what we know, not the unknown, that increasingly points to the indescribable mind of Logos.
We don't worship fictional "gods of gaps", but the God of the whole show, as professor Lennox has stated so clearly. When we realize that our amazing Creator has graciously provided the Way for us to someday be in His glorious presence without the universal time constraints, we are awestruck.
Praise Adonai Eloheinu!
I'm really interested in what he has to say about the Messianic prophecies. His button analogy is quite thought-provoking. It is so sad that apologists pay little attention to discussing the prophecies that point to Jesus as expressed in the NT. Honestly, its scary to me. Dr. Michael Brown has a series, but its a ton of books and one references the other. You have to have his entire library it seems just to track down a few facts. I'm not sure why he has not produced a succint book on the best and some of the hardest prophecies. Anyway, I'll be getting the book. Now will I have time to complete it???? That's the question!
Tremendous stuff, the detective's approach to the subject and his conclusions. I only wish one of them flashed some close-ups of the way the inside pages of the book are looking, how "picture-book-like" it actually is and how the font is really easy to read.
WOW, WOW, WOW!!! Mr Wallace every person on the planet should hear this. This is so informative! 🙏🙏
Yes from Jesus sprang the fathers of science like Plato, Euclid and Aristotle…
Defining God down to justify a temporary lifestyle is a sure way to trash one's eternity.
Not just denying
Some people dont even care enough to entertain the idea. Its sad
Another explanation of many of the fulfilled 'prophecies' is that Jesus was filling to the full (fulfilling) David's story and Israel's story. Therefore, it wasn't always the author saying, 'look! Jesus fulfilled this prediction!' But rather 'look! Jesus identified with Israel/David/etc. in this way!'
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Even literature and poetry
In Jewish tradition there are 4 ways of interpreting the text of Tanakh. The literal meaning and the allegorical meaning and the hinted at meaning and the hidden meaning. The NT writers didn’t always use the literal interpretation face value contextual meaning of the verses they quoted from Tanakh. Often they interpreted them using the allegorical meaning or the hidden meaning or the hinted at meaning of the verses they quoted in light of the events of the life of Jesus and what he said and did as the fulfillment of the prophecies concerning Mashiach Ben Yosef in his first advent and the yet to be fulfilled prophecies he will fulfill concerning Mashiach Ben David in his second advent. Often they quoted from the Greek LXX Septuagint translation instead of the literal Hebrew original like when Matthew’s gospel quotes Isaiah 7:14 from the LXX where the literal Hebrew HaAlmah meaning the young maiden that may or may not be a virgin is translated in Greek as He Parthena meaning the virgin so perhaps that just makes the hinted at meaning more clear. Matthew also quotes Hosea 11:1 where it’s talking about HaShem loving Israel when he was a lad and calling his son from Egypt. The literal context speaks of the Exodus but the hidden meaning is a prophecy about Jesus leaving Egypt as a lad. Jesus as Mashiach represents Israel as the king of Israel and is the servant of HaShem in Isaiah 53 even though Isaiah quotes HaShem calling Israel his servant earlier in the servant songs because as Mashiach and King of Israel Jesus represents Israel and is the ultimate Jew because he alone was perfectly Torah observant
The reason why the standard is higher for Jesus is that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. If I told you I owned a car vs a Lamborghini vs a spaceship would have increasing doubt based off the same amount of evidence
jesus did not transform music and art...the church ruled with an iron fist...all music was religiosu all painting...imagine what great music could have been written with better subject matter...and i still dont get the big deal about jesus...he said a few nice things nothing that anyone else couldnt think of...he died telling his freinds hed be back before they died...and he didnt...very overblown legacy unless osmeone can help me and tell me what the big deal is
Jesus became important because he became a god ; if he'd remained a mere mortal his momentary fame would have vaporized.
@@hellonewman5855 caesar shakespeare beethoven mohammed washington kubla khan marco polo hammurabi cleopatra mao tse tung sorry wrong again..these were all "m,ere mortals" just like your dead jewish carpenter
Jesus is not my dead Jewish carpender. I'm not a Christian! You asked for an explanation of Jesus' overblown lagacy: the ancient Roman world conferred upon Jesus the status of deity and that status has persisted to this day. His fame results from a theological designation and nothing else.
@@hellonewman5855 care to prove that? that would be amazing...lots of names in history are immortal that doesnt make them gods
@@iampostal I'm beginning to think you're just messing with me. You're making my point and yet missing my point. Aristotle, Mozart, Alexander the Great etc. all had historic accomplishments which established their immortal legacy. These were self-made men. What did Jesus do? He became a god. He did nothing while alive to merit immortality. After his death the ancient Roman world transformed Jesus into a deity. All of his fame stems from that fact. During his life Jesus was an unremarkable Jewish apocalyptic preacher. Mozart was a musical genius famous in his lifetime throughout Europe; Jesus was a nobody.
It is so interesting that Jesus had such a huge impact on culture and the creation of various aspects , and now it seems that Satan is working so hard to bring everything down to his level, bringing sin into everything.
It matters to Sean because it means he never has to work for a living.
Imagination is God in man so wake up yourself, Paul hinted Phil 2:5Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
u cant prove Jesus without scripture, because the scripture testify about him. If we have no scripture, we have no Jesus. How can we know the authority in Jesus without scriptures.
So other gods are like 8/10 of Jesus's character ? The Buddhist list the most characteristics
I did an examination of my own: Judas had a week long meditative experience of Jesus Christ for which he was shanghaied to India, where he started the Mar Thoma Church. The historic Jesus is Barabbas and came later, as per Ralph Ellis' chronology. We are left with a mountain of colonialism and misogyny grounded on roman fascism and it needs to move to the ground of truth and be the mountain of love it's supposed to be. And one miracle by which christians are encouraged to demonstrate their faith; MOVE IT!
Your idea that Christianity invented sexism and "colonialism" is just historically false. My guess is you were taught that by a secular activist or someone to that effect, and they probably made you believe a lot more falsehoods. That's what these people do, lie and manipulate to push their agenda.
You, like so many others, turned away from the true God and turned to a cult to fill the void. I feel sympathy that you were brainwashed by one of these people, but I cannot abide you trying to turn others away from the truth.
@@DiggitySlice The Roman Empire invented colonialism. It persists, for some reason; any ideas? You guess away, you manipulative stranger. I turned away from celestial bullshit. I know what coherence feels like: if you grow up in church dogma, you'll never know. I left the church when i was 5, on my own. The rest of my family stopped going the next weekend. Christian mystics should have called us! !!! !! I'm *REALLY PISSED* at *christian* mystics!
@@DiggitySlice While searching for Him, i had a profound meditative experience; one full week of visions; a week of greek decent and return. Meaningless? You would have me believe my experience is meaningless.
@@DiggitySlice "...they probably made you believe a lot more falsehoods." 😂😂😂 Look in a mirror to see one believing a lot, a clearly defined lot of falsehoods. Jesus Christ is a meditative experience of coherence; and you proselytize the opposite. There is what coherence feels like and, there's ignoringing what incoherence feels like: you check yourself.
I'm not going to lie bro I think you're going a bit west
The historical record shows *_NOTHING_* about Jesus without relying on the New Testament other than that a person named Jesus existed and some people worshiped him a long time ago. This is because Jesus does not exist in the historical record, outside of the New Testament (which really isn't a historical record), except as a few sentences referencing Christians of the time.
This is utterly ridiculous... without the oral tradition that became the New Testament, there would be nothing about Jesus known today. Even the tiny tidbits that show up in secular writings are based on what the Christians of the time believed, aka the oral tradition that became the New Testament. Beyond that, its funny that he admits that the stories were reliant on the spread of the Roman Empire... meaning that the story was less important than the time and place.
Gasp! When you make a set of traits that are from the New Testament stories about Jesus, then compare them to some other myths, you come up with the stories about Jesus as the one that fits them the most? Wow!
Guess what... if you made a set of traits from one of the other myths, then compared them to all the other myths, only the one that you made the set from would contain all the traits.
Science, math, music, etc didn't come from Christianity. The Christian scientists in the Middle ages were building on what came before from people like Egyptians, Muslims, Phoenicians, etc. Nothing starts or ends with Christians.
What utter nonsense... He should write a book about how to go from a failed detective to making a great living from lying to believers.
*Quote:* "without the oral tradition that became the New Testament, there would be nothing about Jesus known today"
*Answer:*
The *atheist/agnostic historian* Bart Ehrmann claims that there are non-biblical sources mentioning Jesus of Nazareth in the book "Does Jesus exist? A historical argument for the existence of Jesus".
If you will not take it from me, then at least take it from him.
Below are all non-biblical sources mentioning Jesus or his movement.
- Pliny, Thallus, Lucien, Tacitus, Celsus, Mara-bar Serapion, Josephus and the Talmud (non-biblical sources by non-Christians).
- Letters by the church fathers (non-biblical sources by Christians)
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Josephus *does* mentions Jesus of Nazareth in "Antiquities of the Jews".
Quote: "wise man called Jesus /.../ And many people from among the Jews and the other nations became his disciples. Pilate condemend him to be crucified and to die."
There is only one person named Jesus that was condemned by Pilate and had a following of gentiles as well.
And no, it was not an interpolation. There is a historical core.
Josephus did NOT copy that from Christians, because the martyrdom of James is NOT mentioned in the New Testament.
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Here is all the info we get about Jesus from non-biblical sources:
a) Josephus and Lucian indicate that He was regarded as wise and
b) Pliny, the Talmud, and Lucian imply He was a powerful and revered teacher and
c) Josephus and the Talmud indicate He performed miraculous feats and
d) Tacitus (in "Annals"), Josephus (in "Antiquituis of the jews"), the Talmud, and Lucian all mention that He was crucified and
e) Tacitus and Josephus say this occurred under Pontius Pilate and
f) the Talmud declares it happened on the eve of Passover and
g) there are possible references to the Christian belief in His resurrection in both Tacitus and Josephus and
h) Josephus and Celsus record that His followers believed He was Messiah or the Son of Elohim and
i) Pliny and Lucian indicate that Christians worshipped Him as a Deity and
j) Mara of Syria (Mara Bar Serapion) suggests that calamites came to be partially as a result of the execution of the wise King of the Jews and
k) Phlegon indicates (with Thallus indicating something similar?) that there was an eclipse of the sun during the full moon that was accompanied with earthquakes during the reign of the emperor who was in power from 14 CE to 37 CE and
l) both Tacitus and Suetonius indicate that Christians were punished by the emperor who was in power from 54 CE to 68 CE and
m) there was even a huge fire as far away as the Italian Peninsula that was blamed on followers of Him as early as 64 CE.
@@hhstark8663 None of the writings about Jesus you just sited are first hand accounts of Jesus, they all stem from the oral tradition that developed after Jesus' life... which became the New Testament.
@@timeshark8727 Since when do we need primary sources to accept historical events? All historians accept secondary sources and the vast majority of what we know from the ancient world (e.g. the roman empire) are from secondary sources.
The martyrdom of James for example is NOT in the New Testament. Therefore, we know that Josephus did NOT get his information from the New Testament.
@@hhstark8663 I don't recall limiting anything to primary sources.
The New Testament wasn't in existence at the time of Josephus, so duh he didn't get his info from it... he got it from the Christians who were repeating the oral traditions that _became_ the new testament... try to keep up, I've said most of this before.
@@timeshark8727 The New Testament does not even mention the martyrdom of James and therefore the christians did not know about it!
Josephus must have gotten that info from a jewish source.
I get so disappointed in Christians that refuse to stand and say CATHOLICISM IS NOT CHRISTIANITY!! I was raised Catholic and I know what is involved. Mary is the intercessor between God and man…you pray to her and she prays to Jesus. They also say SHE was the one born of a virgin! They literally DO NOT believe what the Bible says…they say it is faulty because it was written by man…not inspired by God as it claims to be. They pray to dead people to help them instead of God. They use the EXACT same icons as did the worship of Semiramis and Tammuz…the son Gods child…and they call Mary the ‘queen of heaven’ which was a goddess condemned in scripture. They do literally everything the scriptures tell us not to…calling priests father…we have only one father…God! They do rituals and chants which are condemned in scripture. Stop saying what Catholicism did had anything to do with Christianity. It doesn’t. It’s so far distant that it’s no different than any other cult in the world….just larger.
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It is possible to make a case for Jesus's existence but not for his actions and words, that is impossible.
Reliable sources? Daniel doesn't fit, and neither does Ezekiel. Most of the prophecies were written after the fact and for Ezekiel, read chapters 26 and 29 and compare it to actual history.
As for Jesus fulfilling prophecy, it's easy for people to shape a narrative to match prophecy when that prophecy was both written long ago and contains vague details allowing future generations to make leaps of logic to get there. Case closed!
I understand the concern that people could have gone back and changed the texts after the fact. I too share that concern and it's really important to see if that is the case! I think there's good evidence to believe why that's not the case, but I'm also not an expert.
Aside from that, do you know of anyone who would want to fulfill a prophecy that says you die in one of the most painful and shameful ways known at the time? And all the while doing it KNOWING what you're saying about yourself isn't true, only to convince people you are the person the prophecy described? Would you be willing to do this? It gets even trickier when the second plausible explanation is that Jesus was a nut-job, which I think he clearly wasn't. That leaves only the last, third option, which seems absurd, that Jesus was God and the whole thing was planned. But the other two explanations don't seem to fit with his following and what happened after he died.
Also, did JWW's point about a shirt button and tracing it to the suspect make sense? Because I think he addressed your concern of muddled prophecies with the topic of "cloaked prophecies".
Maybe it would be an idea to read JWW's book and sort through it before closing the case (although maybe you've already done extensive research on the topic already!).
How about an add on argument for Christianity, likely having the highest gross in book sales. ?;)
That detective is a clown, not unlike the clueless average apologist, and it would seem he threw his former skills right out of the window when he fell in love with fairy tales...
Nicely demonstrated by Paulogia, but I doubt anyone without the religious confirmation bias is willing to hear him out: th-cam.com/video/UB6yFewRszo/w-d-xo.html
This guy has a doctorates and many successful books
You have a snarky comment and no arguments of your own.
Stop linking other peoples stuff and speak for yourself you puppet tongue
this is really silly though
I pray that you will find God and leave this idolatry behind...
🤦🤣🤣🤣 What a load of nonsense. Not historically accurate at all.
This was wet garbage on a hot day.
Your reaction says otherwise.
@@FalconOfStorms I'm going to assume that you're making some bizarre claim that opposition to the claims of evangelical Christianity is some demonically-inspired admission to its truth out of fear. You're entitled to believe that, just recognize that it's delusional.
@@reframepodcast and your assumption further proves the point. You are desperate and your behavior is bizarre. Normal people don't react like this to civil discussions about ideas.
@@FalconOfStorms Spare me. You weren't "civil" during the live chat, instead choosing to hurl insults at anyone who dared to question the very bad and inherently dangerous ideas JWW spouts.
There is no "desperation" here. You're projecting onto me what you imagine it's like for me to be a non-believer. How do I know this? Because I *was* you.
@@reframepodcast Nobody insulted you. Your obsessive and rude behavior was noted. I don't have to imagine anything, you did it in the live chat and you're doing it here because something's not quite right with you. If you used to be a better person, go back to doing that.
In case anyone is wondering, Scott was mad in the chat because he wasn't able to post a link attacking Sean's father in a civil discussion between two intelligent men about history and investigative skills. All of his comments were about on the level of his comment at the top of his thread.
If this is convincing to you, I got some swampland for sale with building permission.
If you believe that Jesus is son of God and also belief trinity …surly after ur death you will be lead to hell… so just remember that before ur death…
"cira international" and "pfanderfilms" are really good sources to know about islam. :)
Sean, you are so unique as an interviewer. Patient, considerate, and so invested...worthy
Jesus is and was and always will be more important than anyone or anything else!
I love this channel. Dr. Sean is a really great interviewer... Also appreciate the body work of J. Warner Wallace. Really insightful!
Thank you so much Sean! I really enjoy your shows. So interesting, helpful and informative. And getting to know Christian leaders and others in a new way. Thank you! Your style is gracious and kind. May God keep you snd bless you! Num. 6:24-26
(A big thank you also to Dr. Wallace, such a blessing that God chose to use his life in such a unique way! :-))
You bet. I’m glad you’re enjoying it. We’ve got some other great ones likes up!
Wow!!! I love hearing new and fresh apologetics. The kingdom of God is amazing
I just read this book!!!! So good !! I can't believe how much he put into this book!! If you like crime novels or your wondering how crimes are found out!! You need this book! Or if your a Christian ,this book is eye opening ! So interesting! I'm readind parts at the dinner table to my family! So much good info!!!
Do you think that people were afraid of Jesus being the son of God because that meant losing control of the religion with the Jewish Rabbi’s in the Roman culture?
Jim is such a GOAT what a unique and inspiring approach, thank you gentlemen.
Preordered my copy already! 👍
This is a fantastic insight - thanks guys. It speaks volumes about what is at risk with the cancel culture - it is a Judeo-Christian culture and society we live in.
We are in a dark time so you have to be the moon that reflects the Light. The biggest problem is the loud mouths who express harsh feelings towards the ones who are going a different route. Jesus showed love to sinners. We need to accept them, love them but we are not to accept their behavior as ok but also look to the ones He commands us to speak to. The brethren who are going astray. Gay, transgender, adulterer, they have to be convicted of their sins and not condemned by us because condemnation is from the enemy.
this guy has never heard of young earth creationism which goes against all science
Amazing 🤩 Love it! God bless you 🙏
@Kipp Davis has created a video about J McDowell. Since you’ve tied your ministry close to him will you or J McDowell be responding?
You seem like a very reasonable Christian and are willing to tackle tough questions and I applaud you for that. We should all be seekers of truth.
Brilliant!
Wow! I read your comment right as he said it🤭 around 5:50
I'm amused that Mythvision won a book! I hope he enjoys and is blessed by it.
Me too!!!
Thanks again Sean for such an insightful interview with Jim Wallace.
Jim's idea is truly a great one. It disarms those who keep finding excuses for rejecting Jesus.
Both you are such a blessing to the body of Christ.
May the Lord Jesus Christ richly bless you and your families.
Would not be great if most religions had their content from actual gods actually being interviewed, instead of from books written by humans? Why is it that the first thing out of the table with ANY and EVERY religious claim, is the mighty GOD they are claiming into existence?
I can understand that from the stories made with gods that do not exist, but is hard to make a case for it when the supernatural being is real, and even wants to deliver an important message to every and all humans...
Jesus was interviewed and he is the god incarnate. So yeah. :)
@@hhstark8663 So the book says, yeah! Lots of books have interviews with this or that supernatural fauna.
No supernatural fauna confirmed or denied any of them, EVER. ;)
Christianity has hundreds of fulfilled prophecy.
That signifies a being outside of time influenced it.
Most religions have either plenty of failed prophecies, or don't even try, because it's the best way to prove a false religion to be false
@@davidbell2547 every religion claims their fair share of fulfilled prophecies and miracles, yet no God trascenda space and time: they all have books instead. That betrays their common origin.
I'm actually with J when it comes to prophecy linkage skepticism. I thought the vast majority of the prophecies were cloaked in nature, so it makes me happy to know that there are still a good chunk that are not cloaked that directly point to Jesus.
I can’t believe I miss this one! Watching now.. Blessing brothers!
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At first I was like "Let me take a quick look. Why is Sean McDowell over here interviewing Roger Stone?"
But nothing is impossible for Jesus
Part of the reason the Old Testament prophecies of Jesus Christ are unimpressive is because you're reading the corrupted masoretic text in which the Rabbis of the 2nd century removed &/or altered critical passages to obscure Jesus' fulfillment of prophecy. The New Testament writers overwhelmingly quoted the (unaltered) Septuagint.
I also heard some of their material was rewritten. The plurality of God in the Old Testament is extremely obvious, but some Rabbis to my understanding rewrote parts to remove those pluralities.
A bit shameful if you ask me.
@@wowitsfrostygames155only a "bit?"
@@Wonderboywonderings some might say a lot of bit.
Great interview! Looking forward to the book!
Great guest, the book sounds. You two are a great team, you do interviewing very well. Still an admirer of your father, he must be so proud. Thanks, love and prayers.
Thanks Darren!
Your book was so wonderful and very enlightening! I had no idea that His influence on humanity was so massive. Thank you so much. He truly is amazing.
Fantastic !
15:37 - my hypothesis on why there is shared expectations, just as there is a shared flood story dealing w/ sin/ corruption between every ancient civilization I have looked into that had left a record of some sort, is because after the flood, until the Tower of Babbel, we were together and sharing these historical truths & revealed truths.
God had chosen the Israelites to be the protectors of the Historical truths to pass on, as well as how to worship God, His plans to bring us back into communion w/ Him after the fall, etc.
At the Tower of Babel, we didn’t listen to God’s commandment to go forth and multiply over the land, but huddled together, creating gods of men, so God confused our tongues (an interesting side note is that we are rapidly losing languages today,), and forced us to go out. Each w/ those who shared the same language, but maintaining the traditions and stories. These traditions and stories became more and more distorted from the original, overtime, only holding portions of the truth. The Israelites were chosen to be the protectors of the full, uncorrupted account (hence, the Chosen people).
When Jesus came in the flesh, born into a virgin, fulfilling all the promises, He instituted His new Church, to be the protectors of the full revelations of God and how we are to properly worship Him and how we are to act and behave, w/ His new Bishop & Priest class.
Is this boomer still lying on the internet for money?
Atheists make money from books and internet as well. Does that mean everything they claim is automatically false? Of course not. :)
@@hhstark8663 But this guy is lying, he knows what he is saying is not true.
I’d say Daniel 9 is a pretty significant fuse.
The interview was amazing and I enjoyed Warner Wallace’s insights and how he connects the knowledge that he has acquired in his career with his faith. However, I felt troubled when he answered the last question at 59:50 (by the way, an AMAZING question). He says that there is a chance that he could be wrong about the Gospel and and that it could be possible that Jesus did not raise from the dead. The Gospel is the one thing that we as Christians don’t (shouldn’t) have even a hint of doubt about! Jesus Christ is not just true, He is the prerequisite of reality itself to exist! John 1 verse 3 tells us that: “All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made”. There it is right there. We can have doubts about anything BUT the Gospel. If reality is objective, there must be one immovable and undeniable Truth that was and is and will be true no matter what. And then Wallace proceeds to say “is it possible I’m wrong (about Jesus, as I understood it)? Of course, give me a break”. Well, as Christians, we may have no breaks when it comes to our faith in Jesus Christ. Jesus warned us to be either hot or cold, but not lukewarm. Rev 3:16 “So, because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth”. I acknowledge that believers go through seasons of weakened faith. We do live in a fallen world and must endure through spiritual warfare. But it seems to me that a believer’s default belief, being filled with the Holy Spirit, is that the Gospel is true and there may be no doubt about it.
I’ve read “cold case Christianity “…great book, easy to follow , evidence abound.. now with “ person of interest “ caps the evidence of Jesus and his divinity without using the Bible because not everyone believes in its truth. Classic evidence either with or without Bible… great idea
Hi Sean, I know that today is 2 months after this video. I have a question for you. If all of this information is out there as proof of Jesus. The fathers of science, the music history and so forth. My question is "How can atheist and scientology claim that Jesus doesn't exist as who he truly was". If the Man exist, the everything about him must be true as well!?? Again according to all of the Proof that Mr. Wallace has given.
1 Corinthians 2:4-5 "And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:
That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God."
I’m a LEOW and a Christian as is my husband. As important as this information is on the spiritual level, I love hearing the LE terms that Jim is using as he is explaining pure, Godly truth with factual history! 🖤💙🖤
Jesus meets the expectation of most? Aren’t few to end up in heaven?
Doesn't mean we have to accept Him. Freewill... NOT to choose Him- Crazy huh
@@zealheals Crazy for you not to choose Shiva right? That's how I view Yahweh, not there. Or any god for that matter. ;)
@@zach2980people say God is fictional.
Name just 1 fictional thing that isn't based, at least in some way, on something real.
The almighty God exists, and every other god is a poor imitation of the real thing.
You can't have an authentic anything without someone, somewhere making a copycat. But the copycat can't exist without an original
You mean the jesus that said you shouldn’t beat some slaves as hard as others....that jesus?
No one....not one single person has ever proved he existed. If anyone had proved that, or for that matter
ANY part of the Bible was true, they be sitting in their million dollar mansion admiring their Nobel Peace Prize sitting on their mantle over their fireplace. Alas, no one has!
Well for a start the Jewish "slave" (which historians debate if it was even correct to call them slaves) was allowed to leave if their master laid a finger on them according to the OLD testament (which is alot stricter) and for second the only time slave-master agreements are mentioned in the new testament says that slavemasters should love and care for their slaves and that slaves should love and respect their masters.
I'm not even going to try put forward a case for Jesus yet because if I did you would think that we have to torch jaywalkers :/
@@filler7149 Thank You for your reply! However I’m going to have to call BS., The holey bible clearly states that a master may beat his slave as hard as he wants as long as said slave doesn’t die within a day or two (Deuteronomy 15:20) and there is to be no repercussions. The Bible is full of slavery, murder, child rape, incest and a myriad of other deplorable actions of which most are either carried out by your god or condoned by him.
I noticed that ALL your statements aren’t backed up by a single bible verse that corroborates your story!
Any book that condones the kind of behavior found within the pages of the Bible can not in any way possible be used as a moral guideline.
To simplify: Definition of a christian: A belief that a jewish deity who lives in the sky but at the same time exists every where and is invisible but looks just like us will make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master so he can remove an evil curse that is upon your soul, that he put there, because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat the fruit from a magic tree!
Man, christians are GULLIBLE!!! No wonder you start the brain washing at 2/3 yrs old...shame on all of you.
This interview is golden. I just ordered his book!
I just wonder how may people are in jail because of this guys delusions he doesnt need evidence !
How many people have you hurt with your delusion that there is no evidence?
@@DiggitySlice Ohhh do present some then ! actual verifiable repeatable EVIDENCE go on be the first ever
My friend got me this book for Christmas, it's really good, I finished it in like a week
I have proof in a number of ways, just like Joseph Smith had a personal witness. Millions never believed him and he had evidences to back up his teachings. However I don’t have such evidences, except I have read the Book of Mormon a number of times. Watched the account of the “ First Vision” and read the Pearl of Great Price and Doctrine and Covenants as well as the Bible. If that is not suffice, then listen to the current Prophets , Seers and Revelators. If that doesn’t provide enough evidence, then it’s time you got on your knees and talk to God and await the answers?
What we know about Jesus, is the life of Christ according to witnesses and words written from Prophets, Seers and Revelators. What many of us fail to realise is the oerspective from those writers and their evidences. However if we consider when Jesus stated when we dig a hole and fall into that hole we may never get out, is out of the question because Jesus never said that? Similarly when Jesus scolded the man from Samaria and stated that Samaritans are often heathens, Jesus never stated that either. So what I attempt to bring to people’s minds is simple and even children should understand it. Jesus never wrote stories about Himself nor did He make any claims of criticism to any faiths, people, or specific groups such as the Romans etc. No it is only the writers that defined Samaritans, Romans and Jews, Christ only chastised those that were sinners among the people, not once did He speak to a nation, kindred or tongue, He was not the writer, He was the minister. Hence any purported Christian, or true believer of Christ, would not chastise, criticise, rebuke or any other against a Church or any believers but merely direct to the truth. For that same reason, we too cannot state that Evangelicals, Apologists, Catholics, Protestant of LDS etc are wrong except they preach against God and His kingdom! For too long we have those among us, professing to be Christians but often go against what Christ ministered!
Evidences of God and Jesus Christ have been built upon from the beginning and exist to the end. To rule out scriptures, Prophets, Seers and Revelators, then truth would cease. However due to an Apostasy taking place after the death of Christ, it was necessary for God to restore the Gospel of Jesus Christ through The Book of Mormon. Now we can witness how the True Church of Christ has been restored as in The Church zig Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints. Know them by their fruits!
OMG! My ears are bleeding from all the stupid. Did those Roman roads reach to North and South America? Did they reach to the far East? To the southern end of Africa? To Australia? Of course not because the "world" is only the Mediterranean world.
I just recently found your channel and have been enjoying your videos. I find truth rather than sensationalism.
Awesome, thx for sharing!
Well heck, you cannot prove Jesus with scripture so doing it without is worth a shot I guess. But good for both of you, keep selling those books to the gullible and making bank on it.
Sean it would be REALLY nice if you leveled out the audio. Your voice is WAY louder than your guests and it makes it hard to listen to :)
Couldn’t similar cases be made for Muhammad and other popular religious leaders?
I don’t think it could. For instance, other religions don’t remotely claim Mohammed as they nearly all do Jesus. That’s just one example.
@@SeanMcDowell thx. On another note, you spoke of science pointing to the truth of Christianity. Evolution is the most evidenced theory in earth system sciences. How can Christianity be true if the concept of a first humans is clearly fictional?
@@zach2980 Actually, it's not. There are probabilistic challenges to Darwinism raised by (non-Christian) mathematicians and computer scientists. There is also a harder obstacle in the fact that especiation needs a large influx of information (to produce new genes, proteins, etc.) at different stages, and information does not generate itself from random processes. Check Steven Meyer's work for more details on this.
@@andres.e. tell them to submit their work, they could then collect their Nobels. It would upend the most evidenced theory crossing all of earth system sciences.
@@zach2980 Your insistence shows you are 50 years behind in this discussion (I was too, until very recently).
It's all published, by the way. If you care about truth, you should check it out.
And yes, the theory has been upended. The are former neo-darwinists (again, non-Christians) saying a new theory is needed.
Christianity is truth. Jesus is the only one died and rose on the 3rd day for the sins of the world.
The only reason why I trust J is because he used the word "onset" correctly. No one does that.
I'll add I didn't hear him misuse "literally" and " incredible. " two points in last favor. 😇
Our entire world, to this day, marks time by Jesus' life, death, and resurrection: BC/AD or (BCE/CE) however you want to define it.
This is so interesting. I just ordered the book!
When I got to the part about the 6 areas of culture, I was blown away.
I was a missionary with Youth With a Mission (YWAM) for 25 years, which is one of the top 2 largest missionary organizations in the world, the other being Campus Crusades for Christ. I worked with hospital ships in Africa and the South Pacific. Both organizations believe the best way to Disciple the Nations is to bring Christ into every aspect of a nations culture, by transforming or discipling all of the main areas that influence a culture the most. They identified 7 specific areas of focus and they are often referred to as the 7 Mind Molders or the 7 Spheres of Influence. They include the 6 in J’s list. They are:
1-Family
2-Economics (including Science, Technology & Business)
3-Government
4-Religion
5-Education
6-Communications/Media
7-Celebration (including Arts, Entertainment & Sports)
Everything YWAM does around the world is designed around bring Jesus into these 7 Spheres of each culture we go to.
Love ❤️
Musilm say Muhammad is the best of best
The islamic dilemma (qurannic dilemma). That is all I have to say. The islamic dilemma disproves islam in less than a minute. :)
After retiring, I got my dream job teaching in a Christian Academy in San Salvador and was even able to teach history. On p 411 of Abeka's History of the World in Christian Perspective, 1995, Pensacola Christian College, we find this quote: "(Queen) Victoria spoke for the nation in her reply to a visiting African chief who asked her the secret of England's greatness. The queen did not take him to the Tower of London to see the glittering crown jewels or to hear the brilliant orators who debated in Parliament. Instead, she presented the chief with a Bible, and said, 'Here is the secret of England's greatness.'"
I agree some prophesies are hard to see in isolation. I think some prophesy requires looking at something big picture, For example Psalms book 1 Ps 1-41 poetically Genesis, starts with a man who is a tree of life and ends with a betrayed man like Joseph meant to save the world. Like the promise to Abraham to inherit the world as Roman's puts it, the Son of God will inherit the nations in Ps 2 in the first prayer of Psalms given by God to His Son. The world is fallen Ps 11-14 but who can climb the mountain of God Ps 15, and24? Who but the good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep, the king in Ps 22 23 24 allowing 'the meek to inherit the earth' in Ps 25 in the son and in the spirit of the Abrahamic promise to bless the nations in his seed and as part of the blessings of David that if he had a righteous son God would be His father.. The meek inherit the earth in Ps 37 (in the son) and how? Ps 35 the trial of Jesus Ps 41 the last supper. The church founded, paid for by the suffering of christ and forgiveness follows in Ps 30 31 32. In the big picture prophesy points to Jesus but if sometimes hard to see the forest for the trees. The mural in big picture points to Jesus, the seed of Abraham, the son of David, the son of God, the son of Man. I think a lot of prophesy is a strong argumen in the harmony of scripture as it sings in ensemble.
Many Jews will say that because Jesus did not fulfill a large number of Messianic prophecies, then he cannot be the Messiah. Christians likewise believe (or should believe) that Jesus did not fulfill a large number of Messianic prophecies, but we are looking forward to the day when he will. In other words, both Jews and Christians are waiting for the Messiah to come. It's just that for Christians, we know it will be the second coming of Jesus when those prophecies will be fulfilled, while Jews when envision that future day are thinking of it as the Messiah's first coming. It is bad logic to say that the yet unfulfilled prophecies prove that it can't be someone who already came once; all that needs to be allowed for is for the Messiah to come more than once. Cf. Hosea 6:3 (the coming/appearing as two in number) alongside James 5:7-9. This is what Christians have believed and known since the ascension announcement, yet too many times Christians act as though Jesus has already fulfilled all the prophecies he was meant to fulfill, and think that the Jews are wrong to still be awaiting that day when Messiah will come and make all things right.
Jesus demanded our Christians to abide by His Word and act as light and salt of the world. Where is the leadership in US Christian churches. I did not see many of them standing up for evils in this world, rather surrendering to the wicked and devils of this world.
This was awesome my pastor's wife and I were discussing. Very important things and 2 videos came up that were yours that really pointed to our discussion. God bless you
I was going to buy the book not now because what's the point if you don't think it's true. You can research Buda and not believe. Jesus is the only one alive. That's a miracle within itself. No other religion can do that.